SEC Football 2014-15

[Gelston]

So, from what I gathered tonight....

South Carolina has a shitty defense. Texas A&M improved theirs. Kenny Hill is likely a name we will see a lot. Spurrier gets mad some more.

Ole Miss might have a great program this year.

Rivers sucks. Vandy is just back to being Vandy it seems.

[Androidpk]

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[Gelston]

To add on what I posted in another forum...

SC's defense sucks. They were tackling either low or going for arm tackles. I am sure Spurrier has them out right now working on fundamentals. A&M was decent. They don't need Manziel to run up a score. Kenny Hill looked great, but we'll see when they go up against a good defense.

Ole Miss may have a great team this year. I didn't catch most of the game but I heard nothing but good about their performance.*

Vandy is back to being Vandy. Rivers played a terrible game. All three of their QBs played bad. They scored 7, but it was their special teams that did it. I can see why Rivers never had a chance at LSU.

[Gelston]

Just watched the Ole Miss game. Can't see them being big contenders in the SEC.

[Keller]

Big 12 running train on the SEC again this year.

Embarrassing.

[RichardCranium]

Big 12 running train on the SEC again this year.

Embarrassing.

Fuck the SEC except for LSU.

[Keller]

Fuck the SEC except for LSU.

This is how you football fan.

[RichardCranium]

This is how you football fan.

Don't get me wrong, I'll troll with the SEC hype from time to time when it suits me but I hope the rest of the SEC teams get fucked up on a weekly basis.

[Gelston]

Big 12 running train on the SEC again this year.

Embarrassing.

Running train on SEC? How so? Only Vandy lost to a non-SEC team (Temple) and, well, that is Vandy. They always pretty much suck.

And also, another year in which Notre Dame doesn't schedule an SEC opponent.

[Gelston]

Fuck the SEC except for LSU.

Stop being a hipster.

[Androidpk]

Stop being a hipster.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcoxqjQ6jP1qb9bjho1_1280.gif?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAI6WLSGT7Y3ET7ADQ&Expires=1409482998&Signature=kKedwqv47nNHcePrc1JWKSUkAuw%3D#_=_

[Gelston]

LSU took it exactly as expected. Everyone said LSU by 4. We won by 4.

Bama looked like shit. They won but seriously?

Georgia shined. Be afraid of Georgia this year.

Auburn was alright. I don't see them being incredible this year. I think LSU will beat them.

[Alfster]

Wisconsin played stupid the second half. Kept Gordon on the sideline, and thought they were a passing team.

[Gelston]

Wisconsin played stupid the second half. Kept Gordon on the sideline, and thought they were a passing team.

They got tired as I expected. I seriously felt that was a game based on stamina. Look at the huge comeback LSU made.

[Gelston]

I will admit, I was scared for a little bit. It just made that epic comeback so much sweeter.



I am hoarse right now.

[RichardCranium]

LSU is an extremely young team and they looked it for three quarters. They'll win at least ten this year.

[Buckwheet]

Alabama did look silly. Not even a top 10 contender based on that performance.

[Warriorbird]

Getting to see my two favorite teams play to start the season was good. Having it be that game? Even better.

[Aiska]

Dat comeback.

Not sure if Wisconsin choked in the second half or if LSU suddenly remembered they have an SEC defense. Jennings looked like a deer in headlights out there. Poor kid.

Other than some childish glee at watching Rivers the Lesser choke it up and Saban completely lose control of his goddamn team, it felt like a pretty textbook day. Welcome back college football. Please don't fuck this playoffs thing up.

[Gelston]

Wisconsin didn't choke, they were just tired in the fourth. LSU has won many games because they can persevere.

Got to see Harris play a little though. I would have preferred him as the starter.

[RichardCranium]

The SEC West is only the ninth best division in the NFL. I am disappoint.

[Gelston]

The SEC West is only the ninth best division in the NFL. I am disappoint.

LSU has the most active players on a NFL rosters. Followed by Alabama. The SEC West definitely does something right.

[RichardCranium]

LSU has the most active players on a NFL rosters. Followed by Alabama. The SEC West definitely does something right.

Swap those and you're correct.

[Gelston]

Swap those and you're correct.

Thing on ESPN yesterday said 39 LSU 37 Bama. Bama had more drafts in the last 4 years, but that is, obviously, a different thing.

[RichardCranium]

Thing on ESPN yesterday said 39 LSU 37 Bama. Bama had more drafts in the last 4 years, but that is, obviously, a different thing.http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-players-nfl-list/

46 to 43 this year.

[Gelston]

These numbers disagree...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/college

On Sports center two days ago, they said the numbers I stated though. Either way, it is more than other colleges outside the SEC.

[Gelston]

Oh, your link includes guys on the practice squad/scout teams. They aren't really considered active players on an NFL roster.

[Gelston]

My current predictions for the SEC Championship game is LSU and Georgia.

[RichardCranium]

Oh, your link includes guys on the practice squad/scout teams. They aren't really considered active players on an NFL roster.

Agreed. List is shit.

[Aiska]

I know ULM is a cupcake and never really had a chance in today's game, but I think they're a great little team

[Latrinsorm]

I realized today that college football is essentially 1980s professional wrestling, which explains why it's so popular with the same demographics.

-Squash matches
-Championships determined by arbitrary and unknowable factors
-Associated with music that inflames the fan base and sounds stupid to anyone else
-Horrible officiating
-Byzantine territorial allegiances
-Unconscionable treatment of performers by management, esp. with regard to drug use

Think about it! It all adds up.

[Warriorbird]

I realized today that college football is essentially 1980s professional wrestling, which explains why it's so popular with the same demographics.

-Squash matches
-Championships determined by arbitrary and unknowable factors
-Associated with music that inflames the fan base and sounds stupid to anyone else
-Horrible officiating
-Byzantine territorial allegiances
-Unconscionable treatment of performers by management, esp. with regard to drug use

Think about it! It all adds up.

You could easily make the same argument about certain other leagues.

[Gelston]

I know ULM is a cupcake and never really had a chance in today's game, but I think they're a great little team

I like ULM. I all Louisiana teams though. If they were playing anyone other than LSU, I'd be all for them

[Gelston]

So, with Georgia dropping to the original USC and Southern California dropping to BC, LSU should be ranked 8 when they battle Miss State next week. Hopefully their offense isn't as lethargic as it was against UL Monroe.

[kutter]

I thought the 2nd half offense looked pretty good, not sure if it was because of halftime adjustments or UL-M getting tired, probably some of both; but more importantly, the defense is looking pretty scary again. I realize they have not truly been tested yet, but what was it 40 straight possessions without an opponent scoring a point is a pretty scary statistic. UL-M is an FBS school and insterstate rivalries are always tougher since a lot of kids at UL-M would like to play for LSU but are just not there so the next best thing would be to beat them. All in all, I am happier than I thought I would be, offense is about where I thought it would be and defense is a little better and I think both will continue to improve given how young this team is.

[Gelston]

I thought the 2nd half offense looked pretty good, not sure if it was because of halftime adjustments or UL-M getting tired, probably some of both; but more importantly, the defense is looking pretty scary again. I realize they have not truly been tested yet, but what was it 40 straight possessions without an opponent scoring a point is a pretty scary statistic. UL-M is an FBS school and insterstate rivalries are always tougher since a lot of kids at UL-M would like to play for LSU but are just not there so the next best thing would be to beat them. All in all, I am happier than I thought I would be, offense is about where I thought it would be and defense is a little better and I think both will continue to improve given how young this team is.

I am pretty happy with LSU 's defense. They were tested against Wisconsin, which is generally a high tempo, high scoring team, and they did pretty good. Outlasted the offense eitherway.

I think LSU's offense lacks a leader to be honest.

[kutter]

I am pretty happy with LSU 's defense. They were tested against Wisconsin, which is generally a high tempo, high scoring team, and they did pretty good. Outlasted the offense eitherway.

I think LSU's offense lacks a leader to be honest.

I could not agree more about the offense needing a leader, that is one of the problems of a two QB rotation, in my opinion, then someone else needs to step up. I think Jennings is looking a little better every game which is about all we can ask. Can he get there, not sure, but I am keeping my fingers crossed. Hopefully if the defense keeps playing the way they are then the offense will not need to put up a lot of points.

[Latrinsorm]

You could easily make the same argument about certain other leagues.The Premiere League? They don't treat their athletes that badly, and their championship is determined on the field (or as they call it, the "lorry"). I can't think of any other league that schedules competitive matches against minor leagues. Heck, I can't even think of a league that schedules exhibition matches against minor leagues.

[Warriorbird]

The Premiere League? They don't treat their athletes that badly, and their championship is determined on the field (or as they call it, the "lorry"). I can't think of any other league that schedules competitive matches against minor leagues. Heck, I can't even think of a league that schedules exhibition matches against minor leagues.

The NBA or NFL would be the easy fill ins. Your view of the championship is also outdated.

[Latrinsorm]

The NBA or NFL would be the easy fill ins. Your view of the championship is also outdated.Like I said, they don't compete against minor league teams and they determine their championship on the field. I'm aware of the playoff system, but as long as you use the arcane ranking system to determine participants in it you are fundamentally different from other leagues.

The NFL like college does have silly anthems, I'll give you that much.

[Warriorbird]

Like I said, they don't compete against minor league teams and they determine their championship on the field. I'm aware of the playoff system, but as long as you use the arcane ranking system to determine participants in it you are fundamentally different from other leagues.

The NFL like college does have silly anthems, I'll give you that much.

Apart from your valid ranking system gripe all your other notions could easily be applied. You tend to see far more creative football in college versus the NFL. One of the main reasons I like it.

[Gelston]

Like I said, they don't compete against minor league teams and they determine their championship on the field. I'm aware of the playoff system, but as long as you use the arcane ranking system to determine participants in it you are fundamentally different from other leagues.

The NFL like college does have silly anthems, I'll give you that much.

The AP ranking system has nothing to do with determining the play offs. It is mostly just a measure of teams.

[Warriorbird]

The AP ranking system has nothing to do with determining the play offs. It is mostly just a measure of teams.

Bingo. He used to have a point.

[kutter]

AS much as I disliked the BCS ranking system, I am surprised it did not stay in place for the new playoff system to pick the teams. A committee seems to subjective to me, additionally I would like to see either 6 or 8 teams instead of 4. I actually think we will get there at some point, just that no one was ready for it all at once as it will have a profound impact on the Bowl series.

[Gelston]

AS much as I disliked the BCS ranking system, I am surprised it did not stay in place for the new playoff system to pick the teams. A committee seems to subjective to me, additionally I would like to see either 6 or 8 teams instead of 4. I actually think we will get there at some point, just that no one was ready for it all at once as it will have a profound impact on the Bowl series.

I'd have preferred an 8 team. 4 seems too small and not a lot better than what used to be there. Heck, the FCS does a 24 team, though they started with a 4 team originally as well. If they can do it, however, I know damn well the FBS can.

[Latrinsorm]

Bingo. He used to have a point.I was delighted to learn they didn't use the AP/compurobot rankings anymore, but I was curious how they DID determine which teams made it and lo and behold: "a committee of 13 experts will select and seed the teams." Even when I'm wrong I'm right! America! What a country!

I tell ya, this system is even worse than the old one as far as resembling pro wrestling. At least the computers had math involved: strength of schedule, margin of victory, then NOT margin of victory, etc. Thirteen (possibly unidentified!!!) people in a dark room just winging it? This is an exact description of WWE bookers. (Vince keeps the room dark because he's a little vain. LIKE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.)

[Gelston]

I was delighted to learn they didn't use the AP/compurobot rankings anymore, but I was curious how they DID determine which teams made it and lo and behold: "a committee of 13 experts will select and seed the teams." Even when I'm wrong I'm right! America! What a country!

I tell ya, this system is even worse than the old one as far as resembling pro wrestling. At least the computers had math involved: strength of schedule, margin of victory, then NOT margin of victory, etc. Thirteen (possibly unidentified!!!) people in a dark room just winging it? This is an exact description of WWE bookers. (Vince keeps the room dark because he's a little vain. LIKE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.)

All this is still involved and considered. Margin of victory is stupid because that just leads to retarded 70-0 games over crap teams being held over a 35-0 victory over an equal team when one was being classy and not completely destroying them. All 13 are identified. Read up on stuff first.


What criteria will the selection committee use to rank the teams?
The committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering conference championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory) and other relevant factors that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.

Selection committee members will have flexibility to examine whatever data they believe is relevant to inform their decisions. They will also review a significant amount of game video. Among the many factors the committee will consider are win-loss record, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, comparison of results against common opponents and conference championships won. The playoff group has retained SportSource Analytics to provide the data platform for the committee’s use. This platform will allow the committee members to compare and contrast teams on every level possible. Each member will evaluate the data at hand, and then the individuals will vote to produce a group decision.

Here, here is everyone involved. http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/selection-committee

[Latrinsorm]

First of all, surely protocol dictates that "fmr Secretary of State" comes before "fmr Stanford Provost".

Second of all, "Selection committee members will have flexibility to examine whatever data they believe is relevant to inform their decisions." Do people seriously not understand the distinction I'm making? Every league in the world uses on field results to determine who makes the playoffs, period. No robots, no committees, no voting. Every league in the world except the NCAA FBS...

...and professional wrestling.

[Gelston]

First of all, surely protocol dictates that "fmr Secretary of State" comes before "fmr Stanford Provost".

Second of all, "Selection committee members will have flexibility to examine whatever data they believe is relevant to inform their decisions." Do people seriously not understand the distinction I'm making? Every league in the world uses on field results to determine who makes the playoffs, period. No robots, no committees, no voting. Every league in the world except the NCAA FBS...

...and professional wrestling.

Because your distinction is comparing apples to oranges and you just like to troll. If you aren't intelligent enough to see the difference between Wrestling and College Football, I don't know what to tell you. Also, why are you arguing this shit in the SEC thread? There is an NCAA Football thread out there that this would be more appropriate in.

[Latrinsorm]

Because your distinction is comparing apples to oranges and you just like to troll. If you aren't intelligent enough to see the difference between Wrestling and College Football, I don't know what to tell you. Also, why are you arguing this shit in the SEC thread? There is an NCAA Football thread out there that this would be more appropriate in.I didn't say they were exactly identical in every way. Aiska mentioned a Div VII school and the thought occurred to me. I assumed people could take interest and humor out of it. Sorry college football is a matter of life and death. Sorry that you are so angry you cried on your keyboard and ruined it and bought another one and ruined it with angry tears too. Sorry about that, that one's on me. Sorry.

[Gelston]

I didn't say they were exactly identical in every way. Aiska mentioned a Div VII school and the thought occurred to me. I assumed people could take interest and humor out of it. Sorry college football is a matter of life and death. Sorry that you are so angry you cried on your keyboard and ruined it and bought another one and ruined it with angry tears too. Sorry about that, that one's on me. Sorry.

It was a mechanical gaming keyboard too, so you owe me $140.

[Dhuul2]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/northern-illinois-huskies-vs-arkansas-101002134.html

Prediction: NIU beats Arkansas even though they are 1-9 vs SEC teams.

07:00 PM / 23:00 GMT / 01:00 CET
No. Illinois at Arkansas | ESPNU | http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/source/espn3/

Update:
17 true road wins vs heaviest line in football...something's got to give
Arkansas destroying NIU (21-0)

[Aiska]

SEC championship is just going to be Georgia jerking off in front of a mirror.

[Warriorbird]

Oy LSU.

[Jeril]

SEC championship is just going to be Georgia jerking off in front of a mirror.

I bet you picture that often.

[Androidpk]

Great game by Tyler Murphy.

[Gelston]

Sucked for LSU to lose. Most of the game sucked. That last 5 minutes was some of the best shit ever though. If that Hail Mary had worked... Mother of God.

[kutter]

Before I say this know that I am a huge LSU fan. It did not suck for LSU, they played terrible on both sides of the ball, in no way did they deserve to win that game. State came into their house and bitch slapped them. Either State is a lot better than people realize, which they may very well be, or LSU is clearly not the 8th best team in the country. More than likely it is some of both.

[SHAFT]

Jameis Winston is one stupid motherfucker. He might turn out to be dumber than manziel. I hope Winston slips into the 6th round of the draft.

[Gelston]

Jameis Winston is one stupid motherfucker. He might turn out to be dumber than manziel. I hope Winston slips into the 6th round of the draft.

Wrong thread. This is the SEC thread.

[Gelston]

Before I say this know that I am a huge LSU fan. It did not suck for LSU, they played terrible on both sides of the ball, in no way did they deserve to win that game. State came into their house and bitch slapped them. Either State is a lot better than people realize, which they may very well be, or LSU is clearly not the 8th best team in the country. More than likely it is some of both.

LSU's Defense and Offense didn't show up until the very end of the game. I think we need to make Jennings 2nd String and play Harris.

LSU is a young team this year though. Next year we should be fucking monsters.

[Warriorbird]

LSU's Defense and Offense didn't show up until the very end of the game. I think we need to make Jennings 2nd String and play Harris.

That was one of my main takeaways.

[Gelston]

Harris is from my Hometown too.

[Warriorbird]

Harris is from my Hometown too.

Very cool. We might get one of the kids at the high school here to Tech. Fastest one in the state.

[Gelston]

Very cool. We might get one of the kids at the high school here to Tech. Fastest one in the state.

Dak Prescott is also from like 20 minutes away though.

[Gelston]

It is going to be a long season for LSU this year. Probably lose 4 games. Next year, I think we'll dominate.

[Gelston]

I hope Miles gets it now. Harris is our QB. When, in one quarter, you have three turnovers and one person is responsible for all of them... What do you do?

Once Miles put Harris in, yeah, our offense looked amazing. As it did for the three minutes Harris played against Miss St. He almost won that game for LSU. I see a Heisman for this kid next year so long as the Mad Hatter plays him.

[Gelston]

Also, I think the Aggie Razorback game tonight basically showed that the SEC East is very weak this year.

[Aiska]

It's probably not a great idea to make opinions on performance after a lopsided win over the sugariest of cupcakes. If we'd lost, sure.

[Androidpk]

Cupcakes?

[Gelston]

It's probably not a great idea to make opinions on performance after a lopsided win over the sugariest of cupcakes. If we'd lost, sure.

I am making my opinion based on Jennings being responsible for 3 turn overs against a shitty team. Also, see Harris when he, in 3 minutes, exceeded Jennings total stats against Miss St.

You don't have to lose to see who is better.

[Aiska]

Oh, that's my bad. I misread and thought you were commenting on tonight's game.

[Gelston]

Oh, that's my bad. I misread and thought you were commenting on tonight's game.

It was a combination of games. 5 games in, Jennings is terrible. Harris is better.

[RichardCranium]

It was a combination of games. 5 games in, Jennings is terrible. Harris is better.

If Jennings starts against Auburn I'm changing the channel.

[Aiska]

Miles has a giant boner for the two-quarterback offense. It'd be nice if Cameron (and all of the pro-Harris headlines) could snap him out of it.

[Gelston]

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2014/09/lsu_coach_les_miles_says_fresh.html

LSU coach Les Miles said Monday freshman quarterback Brandon Harris will make his first career start at Auburn on Saturday.

Speaking at his weekly Monday press conference, Miles said "It stands to reason that (Brandon Harris) will get the first snaps in the next game." He later clarified the remark when asked directly.

"I felt like there's a point in time where the conversation between myself and the players is not fair game. Brandon Harris needed to know it and Anthony Jennings needed to know it."

Harris accounted for five touchdowns, three passing and two running, in LSU's 63-7 victory against New Mexico State Saturday. He completed 11 of 14 passes for 178 yards and LSU scored touchdowns on all seven of his possessions.


.... About time.

[Aiska]

do not fuck this up, hat

[Gelston]

Yesterday was fucking insane. Who'd have thought Ole Miss and Miss St would be leading teams in the SEC this year.

[RichardCranium]

do not fuck this up, hat

He fucked it up.

[Gelston]

He fucked it up.

I don't think the Auburn game was winnable for our current team.

[Keller]

So what will LSU and Tennessee fans cheer for that that Alabama won't be carrying the SEC's water this year?

Are you guys a basketball school yet?

[Gelston]

So what will LSU and Tennessee fans cheer for that that Alabama won't be carrying the SEC's water this year?

Are you guys a basketball school yet?

Um, what? You mean the three SEC West teams that are ranked above ND?

Or perhaps the 4 that are in the top 10... Or perhaps the 5 West and 1 East that are in the top 15. I'm sure there are plenty of teams for SEC fans to cheer for.

[Keller]

6 SEC teams in the top 15 and the two best are MSU and Ole Miss.

If there were any remaining doubters that the SEC is more overrated than Reagan, they've got to realize how naive they were.

[Gelston]

6 SEC teams in the top 15 and the two best are MSU and Ole Miss.

If there were any remaining doubters that the SEC is more overrated than Reagan, they've got to realize how naive they were.

I think Auburn would beg to differ that those are the two best. Hey, remember that time when ND was overrated and got smashed to shit by Alabama? Man, I can't wait for FSU to stomp the yard with them this year too. Oh yeah, and you know who beat those SEC teams to make them fall, btw? OTHER SEC teams. I'd hope the SEC could defeat the SEC.

Basically, ND fans shouldn't ever call anyone overrated.

[RichardCranium]

So what will LSU and Tennessee fans cheer for that that Alabama won't be carrying the SEC's water this year?

Are you guys a basketball school yet?

Number one, fuck Alabama.

Number two, almost. They should make the tourney this year, next year they should make a run.

[Gelston]

Number one, fuck Alabama.

Number two, almost. They should make the tourney this year, next year they should make a run.

Basketball is the only sport I find boring both on TV and at the game. I'll play some NBA2k14 though.

[Keller]

Number one, fuck Alabama.

You always remind me why I like you.


Number two, almost. They should make the tourney this year, next year they should make a run.

Ya - you've been putting together quite a squad. I see you, Tigers.

[Keller]

I think Auburn would beg to differ that those are the two best.

Who the hell has Auburn beat?

They beat up on a bunch of terrible teams. The only halfway decent team they played was Kansas State, and they couldn't put them away.

I'm not saying Ole Miss and MSU are great, especially based on the standard Alabama has set the last half decade, but they have actually beat good teams.

[Gelston]

Who the hell has Auburn beat?

They beat up on a bunch of terrible teams. The only halfway decent team they played was Kansas State, and they couldn't put them away.

I'm not saying Ole Miss and MSU are great, especially based on the standard Alabama has set the last half decade, but they have actually beat good teams.

Did you see the LSU/Auburn game and the LSU/Miss St game? Auburn is a fucking beast. I saw a damn good chance of us beating Miss St. I saw no such chance against Auburn.

We'll see on Saturday though.

[Keller]

Did you see the LSU/Auburn game and the LSU/Miss St game? Auburn is a fucking beast. I saw a damn good chance of us beating Miss St. I saw no such chance against Auburn.

We'll see on Saturday though.

That was a classic trap game for MSU as they were looking ahead to A&M. Can't blame them for eeking out a win at LSU.

[Gelston]

That was a classic trap game for MSU as they were looking ahead to A&M. Can't blame them for eeking out a win at LSU.

Pft, A&M is overrated if anyone, tbh. They only got ranked high because they beat a shitty SC team, although the entire east division is shit this year.

I could see LSU defeating A&M, especially since it is the last game of the regular for us now, and we are a team of fucking n00bs, so they'll have gained valuable experience by then. Next year we'll be good, the year after, championships.

Makes me wonder how much different college football would be today if it weren't for one plane crash in 1970.

[Keller]

Pft, A&M is overrated if anyone, tbh. They only got ranked high because they beat a shitty SC team

That is the story of the SEC this year.

It is a competition to be the smartest retard.

[Gelston]

That is the story of the SEC this year.

It is a competition to be the smartest retard.

Well, when the smartest retards are in the playoofs and ND isn't, I guess you'll just be the dumbest and slowest retards.

[Keller]

Well, when the smartest retards are in the playoofs and ND isn't, I guess you'll just be the dumbest and slowest retards.

I'm not arguing ND is good.

I'm arguing the SEC is overrated.

Stop deflecting and being so defensive. It's not becoming.

[Gelston]

I'm not arguing ND is good.

I'm arguing the SEC is overrated.

Stop deflecting and being so defensive. It's not becoming.

Not becoming huh? You are calling them smart retards. Maybe you should look at yourself.

The SEC is certainly not overrated. Certain teams were before the season started. You can clearly see the SEC's record over the last 10 years and compare them to any conference, however, and your claim of "overrated" goes out the window. The conference has earned its prestige. Until another conference comes and knocks them off the pedestal, the SEC is not overrated at all. Much to Herbstreit's dismay.

[Keller]

It's not that the SEC is overrated, it's just that our best teams are overrated!!

Keep chugging the Kool Aid.

[Gelston]

It's not that the SEC is overrated, it's just that our best teams are overrated!!

Keep chugging the Kool Aid.

Alright. I was wrong that Auburn would beat Miss St. The SEC isn't overrated. Not even close. Who did Auburn lose to? Oh... Another SEC team. We are a self defeating conference. At least our best teams never got close to losing to the Tarheels though.

[Palcron]

Losing within your conference means nothing in terms of your argument when you consider that pretty much every top-tier school plays 8 games in conference and 4 games against either D2 or complete shit D1 schools.

[Gelston]

Losing within your conference means nothing when you consider that pretty much every top-tier school plays 8 games in conference and 4 games against either D2 or complete shit D1 schools.

Pretty much. Look at the SEC's non conference record... Look at bowl games. The SEC does better than anyone else in recent history.

Hate it, love it, it is what it is.

Upset it won't be LSU leading this year, but 2 seasons from now we will win the championship.

[Gelston]

I predict LSU winning against Kentucky, Arkansas, Texas A&M. ... And Bama.

I kind of hope Miles moves to Michigan and Cam becomes our HC next year though.

[Palcron]

I don't think the SEC is a weak conference, but I do think that the schools that everyone always assumes to be great are mostly overrated this year. I don't think Alabama, A&M, LSU and Auburn are bad teams this year, but while ESPN loves to make them out to be on some whole other level compared to the rest of college football, I don't think they're any better than every other top-25 team.

[Palcron]

I'm mostly just sick of ESPN only ever talking up the SEC. I get that they have a product that they need to push, but there are a lot of great teams out there this year (and for the past several) that get no real attention. The best team in the SEC isn't any better than the best team in any of the other top 5 conferences. The SEC does field a lot of good teams, but so do so many other conferences.

[Gelston]

Out of the four you named, I only think one is good, another is average.. The other two suck. I will disagree with you saying the best team in the SEC isn't better than the best in other conferences. Who is the best in other conferences? Other than FSU, I don't see any real competition.

And the coaches for FSU are from where?

[Gelston]

Anyways, the SEC earned the right to be where it is. Count the crystal footballs. When another conference comes and unseats us, well, that is a different story.

[Palcron]

Despite a loss, I'd still take Oregon over most SEC teams (Mariota is too damn good). Baylor could definitely contend with the best despite giving up a shit load of points today. Michigan State's D makes them a team that could beat just about anyone. I can't decide whether Ole Miss and Miss St are actually as good as their rankings imply, or of it's simply that they beat really highly ranked but bad teams.

Really, the Big 12 and Pac 12 each have several teams that I think are as good (or damn close) to the better teams in the SEC. Those two conferences don't fuck around.

[Palcron]

And that's also a terrible point. All of college football resets every 4 years. If that's your angle, then your point is already lost in that FSU unseated your best team last year, so it's an all new playing field.

[Gelston]

And that's also a terrible point. All of college football resets every 4 years. If that's your angle, then your point is already lost in that FSU unseated your best team last year, so it's an all new playing field.

Well, except the SEC has been collecting those crystal footballs for over 4 years. Conference and team prestige helps recruiting.

Also, Auburn wasn't our best team last year. Still, I speak of the conference as a whole. We won more Bowl games than any other conference.

[Palcron]

The SEC had a great run, but it doesn't make them the greatest conference in history, which is how too many people make them seem. And recruiting helps a lot, but so does finding players to fit your system, which is why I think the Big 12 and Pac 12 are better overall than the SEC.

[Gelston]

The SEC had a great run, but it doesn't make them the greatest conference in history, which is how too many people make them seem. And recruiting helps a lot, but so does finding players to fit your system, which is why I think the Big 12 and Pac 12 are better overall than the SEC.

I never said in history. If you want to say history, you have to look at Yale, Harvard, and Princeton. I am saying right now.

Hell, LSU has no regular season loses to non conference teams in what? 48 games?

[Palcron]

Who do they play? Non-conference is complete shit 98% of the time.

[Gelston]

Who do they play? Non-conference is complete shit 98% of the time.
Well, you know, they played Wisconsin for the first game this year.. Oregon under Chip Kelly a couple years back.

[Gelston]

One thing about Chip Kelly, he finally has a team that can beat the SEC.

[Palcron]

Ole Miss and Miss St could prove me wrong, but I don't think any team in the SEC is any better than the good teams in the other power 5 conferences. There's just too much talent out there in other conferences, and too many SEC teams have very recently lost their best players, and as Auburn proved a few years back, all you need is one great player to win a championship.

[Gelston]

Ole Miss and Miss St could prove me wrong, but I don't think any team in the SEC is any better than the good teams in the other power 5 conferences. There's just too much talent out there in other conferences, and too many SEC teams have very recently lost their best players, and as Auburn proved a few years back, all you need is one great player to win a championship.

I'd say there is a reason why SEC teams lose a lot of players.

[Palcron]

Oregon wasn't near as great a few years ago as they were last and this year. Wisconsin this year is decent, but by no means good. Yes, every now and again, the top teams will play decent non-conference games, but for the most part (98% of the time), they're guaranteed wins.

[Palcron]

I'm not sure what it is right now, but it was only a few years ago that the number 1 and 2 college teams who put players into the pros were Miami and FSU.

[Gelston]

Both Mississippi teams have surprised me though. I think they are the real deal now.

[Gelston]

I think Oregon was its best under Chip. Seems like they have been falling since he left. He was a damn good coach.

[Palcron]

If they can keep it up, I'll buy into it. It's too early now for me to decide. I can't help but think that they beat overrated but highly ranked teams. If they can keep playing and winning at this same pace, I'll believe by the end of the season.

[Gelston]

And last year it was LSU. Year before was USC.

[Palcron]

With a seasoned QB at the helm, I think Oregon will be a top-5 quality team. When Mariota leaves, I think they're in trouble.

[Gelston]

Sorry, that was players on active NFL rosters, not drafts.

[Gelston]

With a seasoned QB at the helm, I think Oregon will be a top-5 quality team. When Mariota leaves, I think they're in trouble.

Yeah, I agree on that. I think they can still recruit, but I think Chip was their game winner.

[Palcron]

The problem with college is that the greatest players go to a handful of teams and then leave as soon as possible. It's also a benefit in that teams like Ole Miss and Miss St can be great because their guys stick around and perfect their craft. In football, young talent can win you games, but you're always going to run into tough, seasoned teams that punch you in the mouth (just like is happening to A&M and Alabama this year).

[Gelston]

If that plane crash that wiped out Marshall had never happened... Freshmen may still not be able to play... think about how different things would be.

[Gelston]

Also if Miles didn't suck at Quarterbacks LSU would have had Dak Prescott now.

[Palcron]

That crash could have been the worst thing to happen to college football. Maybe I'm a little outdated, but I'm still of the opinion that if you're going to commit to college, you should see it through. I get that the dollar figure that is the NFL is too tempting, but look at all of the guys in the NFL who left school after a year or two. They just aren't ready. Every now and again, a guy is good enough to compete (Cam Newton, for one), but I'd say it's 90+% of the time that the guys shouldn't be there. They need to work and grow before they can actually contend in the NFL. It's a whole other world compared to college.

[Palcron]

That's insane, by the way. I'm still blown away that he declined the scholarship offer considering how competitive LSU has been recently.

[Palcron]

I have a ton of respect for that kid for abandoning the notion of going to one of 10 top-tier schools, and instead going where he wanted and where he knew he could make a difference.

[Gelston]

I am always happy when I see Marshall win. I agree with you though, when you commit, you commit and no, none of those guys that leave early are ready.

You could be the best dude ever in college, but the teams you play... Maybe 2 or 3 are great players. When you got to the NFL, everyone on the 3rd string is a great player.

[Gelston]

That's insane, by the way. I'm still blown away that he declined the scholarship offer considering how competitive LSU has been recently.

Miles is a fucking idiot when it comes to QBs. We lost Colt McCoy because of him too.

[Palcron]

The NFL is made up of the absolute best players from every one of the best teams in the last decade. You have to be an absolute beast to even compete if you end up leaving early. The dollar signs are the biggest reason why I don't much care for the NFL. They ruin college football by tempting too many good players to leave. VERY few are ready, but tons leave for the money.

[Palcron]

I never really bought into McCoy, but he did win a lot of games. Maybe he was actually a great QB, maybe he ended up in a winning system. I don't really know, but I never really liked him. I don't think you missed much there. Prescott looks to be an animal, though. He might bite you in the ass.

[Gelston]

The NFL is made up of the absolute best players from every one of the best teams in the last decade. You have to be an absolute beast to even compete if you end up leaving early. The dollar signs are the biggest reason why I don't much care for the NFL.

This is why I thought it was fucking hilarious when someone said Bama could beat the Buccaneers years back. Yeah, they sucked, but they were all still the best of the best from college...

[Gelston]

I never really bought into McCoy, but he did win a lot of games. Maybe he was actually a great QB, maybe he ended up in a winning system. I don't really know, but I never really liked him. I don't think you missed much there. Prescott looks to be an animal, though. He might bite you in the ass.

Dak looks great. Heisman? Too early. But he is definitely making a good push towards it. Gurley is out of the running now anyways.

[Palcron]

It was all ESPN hyping bullshit. They stood to make money off of building up Bama, so they did. It was fucking stupid. I loved that every single intelligent correspondent responded by saying "yeah, no. Not going to happen." But I'll be damned if ESPN didn't try hard to make it seem like Bama actually could. It was pathetic.

[Palcron]

If he keeps playing like he has in the last few weeks, he will absolutely be in the conversation. I just need to see them beat teams that I don't personally feel are overrated to fully believe.

[Palcron]

He's damn good, though. I'll definitely give him that.

[Gelston]

Well, you'll probably see him in the NC brackets. Bama is a little less this year, but I wouldn't say overrated. When you have a team that has won crystal footballs that often in the last few years, you gotta give them a little reverence. They were the team to beat for years, they are on hard times now. I still think LSU takes them this year.

[Gelston]

And Saban is still a damn good coach.

[Palcron]

Alabama is definitely not the same team. They aren't bad, but they might as well be a 2-loss team with that one point win today (14-13 is a pathetic win against an unranked team). I'd definitely bet on LSU over Bama.

In their first title win, they were one of the best teams I've ever seen play college football. They were absolutely incredible. No team could even compete. The second, they were very good, but not the same as the first. The third was average. They were very good, but not amazing. It's easy to be a national champion when you get a wash game against Notre Dame to end the season.

[Gelston]

Alabama is definitely not the same team. They aren't bad, but they might as well be a 2-loss team with that one point win today (14-13 is a pathetic win against an unranked team). I'd definitely bet on LSU over Bama.

In their first title win, they were one of the best teams I've ever seen play college football. They were absolutely incredible. No team could even compete. The second, they were very good, but not the same as the first. The third was average. They were very good, but not amazing. It's easy to be a national championship when you get a wash game against Notre Dame to end the season.

The second sucked! They blanked us. At least SEC haters got to see an SEC team lose.

[Gelston]

For the BAMA - ND game... It was hilarious how many ND fans appeared out of the woodwork... In Louisiana. I was a minority rooting for Bama.

[Palcron]

They were definitely a better team when they won the second than when the won the third. That third win was an above average team at best. If they played ANYONE other than Notre Dame, they stood a huge chance to lose.

[Palcron]

Notre Dame was the worst team to ever play for a national championship. It was pathetic.

[Gelston]

They were definitely a better team when they won the second than when the won the third. That third win was an above average team at best. If they played ANYONE other than Notre Dame, they stood a huge chance to lose.

I think it should have been Bama vs Oregon and ND vs K State

[Palcron]

Oregon would have run up and down the field on Bama that year. And Notre Dame would have still gotten crushed by K State. Lol.

[Gelston]

Oregon would have run up and down the field on Bama that year. And Notre Dame would have still gotten crushed by K State. Lol.

I don't think Oregon would have. I think it would have been a damn good game that Bama won. A lot better than that bullshit that was the Bama - ND game.

That crap was done in the first quarter.

[Palcron]

Bama was good that year, not great. Oregon was great. You couldn't stop their offense. Bama wouldn't have known what to do with themselves defensively.

[Gelston]

Bama was good that year, not great. Oregon was great. You couldn't stop their offense. Bama wouldn't have known what to do with themselves defensively.

I disagree. We will never know though. That would have been the game of the century. Everyone wanted it.

[Palcron]

Alabama's first recent title win was unreal. No one could compete. Other than that, I think they've been very good, but not unbeatable. Oregon ran a style of offense that no one could slow down. And a style that Alabama didn't see once during the regular season. I just don't see them winning that title against Oregon.

[Gelston]

Alabama's first recent title win was unreal. No one could compete. Other than that, I think they've been very good, but not unbeatable. Oregon ran a style of offense that no one could slow down. And a style that Alabama didn't see once during the regular season. I just don't see them winning that title against Oregon.

And I disagree. I think the Bama defense would have destroyed them. They hit hard, they hit fast, and they had stamina. Oregon outlasted other good teams and it got them wins that year. They'd be close in the half and win in the second half. The Bama team then? Yeah... those guys were never tired.

Again, we'll never know.

[Palcron]

I'll be happy to see the day arrive that college football gets an actual playoff system (just 4 teams is stupid). It will permanently remove the debate of who is truly the best. And LSU will never again have to share a title (stupidest aspect of the former system, and a likely result at some point with just a 4 team playoff).

[Gelston]

The FCS can do 24 teams. Why can't the FBS?

[Palcron]

Money. It's all about making the most money for a select few people.

[Gelston]

Money. It's all about making the most money for a select few people.

They'd make a lot more, I'd think. You'd have 14 bowl games that matter, instead of just random bowl games at the end of the season.

[Palcron]

But the fact that they play SO MANY bowl games at the moment is a big deal. And the fact that the former BCS bowls now get multiple games means those guys make more. Guaranteed, if the 5 BCS bowls could host a 24 team playoff, they would. It's all about making the most money for a handful of people.

[Gelston]

But the fact that they play SO MANY bowl games at the moment is a big deal. And the fact that the former BCS bowls now get multiple games means those guys make more. Guaranteed, if the 5 BCS bowls could host a 24 team playoff, they would. It's all about making the most money for a handful of people.
Well, even the FCS started with a 4 team. I think an 18 team would be fair. I think a 24 would be better. Keep the big bowls as the final 4 though. All the others lead up.

[Androidpk]

There goes Gelston, bragging about his college football stories again!

[Palcron]

I'm definitely on board with you there. You can't determine the best out of 128 teams by allowing the top 4 ranked teams to play each other. Lets face it, the rankings are mostly educated bull shit. It's a decent measuring stick, but absolutely does not accurately reflect the best teams in the country.

[Gelston]

I'm definitely on board with you there. You can't determine the best out of 128 teams by allowing the top 4 ranked teams to play each other. Lets face it, the rankings are mostly educated bull shit. It's a decent measuring stick, but absolutely does not accurately reflect the best teams in the country.

Exactly. You can't have the entire SEC in one bowl!!! No, I recognize that there are a lot of other good teams out there. I think a large playoff schedule would kind of shut people up.

[Gelston]

It would also make losing one regular season game mean a little less.

[Palcron]

But how much fun would it be to watch every SEC team face off in one game?!? Like a royal rumble of epic proportions!

[Palcron]

Really, though, there is no way to accurately determine the best team in the league without allowing at least a dozen or more teams to compete.

[Gelston]

But how much fun would it be to watch every SEC team face off in one game?!? Like a royal rumble of epic proportions!

It'd just be the regular season. And no, you cant determine the best without an extensive playoff series. I think we are on the way to it.

[Gelston]

What I have done is take post season bowl wins. The SEC pretty much always wins the most.

[Latrinsorm]

Really, though, there is no way to accurately determine the best team in the league without allowing at least a dozen or more teams to compete.I would be more interested in seeing a bracket of 4 teams play best of 3 series if we're talking about accuracy, but obviously that will never happen.

[Gelston]

I would be more interested in seeing a bracket of 4 teams play best of 3 series if we're talking about accuracy, but obviously that will never happen.

That still limits it to only 4 teams. How do you get to those 4 teams?

[Latrinsorm]

That still limits it to only 4 teams. How do you get to those 4 teams?Obama.

It doesn't matter if we have all the teams if our process of deciding which teams advance is inaccurate.

[Gelston]

Obama.

It doesn't matter if we have all the teams if our process of deciding which teams advance is inaccurate.

No. You are stupid and you like the NBA. Go away.

[Aiska]

Last night's nailbiter was a lot of fun even if I'm pissed and it never should have been so close in the first place

[Gelston]

Last night's nailbiter was a lot of fun even if I'm pissed and it never should have been so close in the first place

Muschamp is sorta fighting for his job and it was in the Swamp. UF is better this year than last and LSU is worse this year. It was about where it should be, I think.

[Aiska]

I don't want to hear a logical argument about each team's performance. I want to be mad at LSU for squeaking by.

[Keller]

At this point, the SEC is underratedly overrated.

I'm fine with the SEC having to bear the shame of their best team being Mississippi State - but I'll be damned if the NCAA should have to put up with this embarrassment. Just like A&M was vaulted into the top 10 after beating an overrated South Carolina team (and has now been exposed as a complete fraud), Mississippi State is now overrated for running train on a MAC-level SEC schedule. The problem is, with how bad the SEC is this year, I don't think they're going to be exposed anytime soon.

[Warriorbird]

At this point, the SEC is underratedly overrated.

I'm fine with the SEC having to bear the shame of their best team being Mississippi State - but I'll be damned if the NCAA should have to put up with this embarrassment. Just like A&M was vaulted into the top 10 after beating an overrated South Carolina team (and has now been exposed as a complete fraud), Mississippi State is now overrated for running train on a MAC-level SEC schedule. The problem is, with how bad the SEC is this year, I don't think they're going to be exposed anytime soon.

Guys I feel like we should take Keller's comments really seriously here. If there's anybody who's an expert on overrated teams and conferences it'd be him.

[Keller]

What are these conferences you speak of? Is that some sort of football communism?

[Gelston]

At this point, the SEC is underratedly overrated.

I'm fine with the SEC having to bear the shame of their best team being Mississippi State - but I'll be damned if the NCAA should have to put up with this embarrassment. Just like A&M was vaulted into the top 10 after beating an overrated South Carolina team (and has now been exposed as a complete fraud), Mississippi State is now overrated for running train on a MAC-level SEC schedule. The problem is, with how bad the SEC is this year, I don't think they're going to be exposed anytime soon.

Yes, SEC bearing the shame of our, and the now #1 ranked team in the nation, being Miss St. Troll harder.

[Keller]

I am sincerely sorry for you guys.

Until this year, most of the (previously) respectable SEC football programs would have fired their head coach for losing to Mississippi State.

This year, LSU, Alabama, and Auburn fans are left cheering for the squad from Starkville as their best hope.

That's terrible.

[Gelston]

I am sincerely sorry for you guys.

Until this year, most of the (previously) respectable SEC football programs would have fired their head coach for losing to Mississippi State.

This year, LSU, Alabama, and Auburn fans are left cheering for the squad from Starkville as their best hope.

That's terrible.

Lalalalalalala, trolling.

[Keller]

Bo Wallace told reporters that Texas A&M fans cheered for Ole Miss at their team bus after the game.

Texas A&M fans sought out the Ole Miss bus, waited until the players left the locker room, and cheered for the team that just beat them.

And here I thought that Mississippi State being the face of the SEC was the most embarrassing thing that happened in college football this week.

[Gelston]

Bo Wallace told reporters that Texas A&M fans cheered for Ole Miss at their team bus after the game.

Texas A&M fans sought out the Ole Miss bus, waited until the players left the locker room, and cheered for the team that just beat them.

And here I thought that Mississippi State being the face of the SEC was the most embarrassing thing that happened in college football this week.

Trollolololol

[Keller]

Listening to Dan Patrick now. Dan Patrick is in complete disbelief and laughing at A&M fans.

"Did they think they had won or something?"

LOLOL! DP is the best.

[Gelston]

LOLOL! DP is the best.

You like getting double penetrated?

[Keller]

You like getting double penetrated?

With proper lubrication it can be quite satisfying.

[Gelston]

With proper lubrication it can be quite satisfying.

I knew Notre Dame fans were all fags.

[Keller]

I knew Notre Dame fans were all fags.

Tailgates are a modern day Gomorrah.

[RichardCranium]

Bo Wallace told reporters that Texas A&M fans cheered for Ole Miss at their team bus after the game.

Texas A&M fans sought out the Ole Miss bus, waited until the players left the locker room, and cheered for the team that just beat them.

And here I thought that Mississippi State being the face of the SEC was the most embarrassing thing that happened in college football this week.

Texas A&M fans are by far the strangest group of people I've ever come across. Look up Texas A&M's Fish Camp and yell practices to see what I mean.

[Aiska]

Just turned on Alabama/A&M. Wow.

[Gelston]

Yep. A&M is sucking. Yeldon is kicking that ass.

[Palcron]

Suddenly, Ole Miss and Miss St beating A&M isn't all that impressive...

But I will say, Bama looks a hell of a lot better than they have lately.

[Keller]

Is the SEC circle jerking getting awkward yet? Or do more of your "elite" teams need to get their asses kicked first?

[Gelston]

Is the SEC circle jerking getting awkward yet? Or do more of your "elite" teams need to get their asses kicked first?

What elite team got their ass kicked?

It is fun how 4 of the top 5 teams in the rankings are SEC teams.

[RichardCranium]

Is the SEC circle jerking getting awkward yet? Or do more of your "elite" teams need to get their asses kicked first?

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah212/Adam_May/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_91355479490554_zps5b8f3503.jpeg (http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Adam_May/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_91355479490554_zps5b8f3503.jpeg.html)

[Gelston]

Fun night for the best division of the best conference in NCAA Football.

GO LSU!!

We handed Ole Miss that game on a silver platter. If LSU hadn't fucked up so many times, the score would have been a lot different. Still, young team. This is a taste of next year.

[RichardCranium]

That defense though. They're gonna be a tough out the rest of the year. Next year they're gonna be salty as fuck.

[Gelston]

That defense though. They're gonna be a tough out the rest of the year. Next year they're gonna be salty as fuck.

Oh god man. That defense was amazing. Except for the easy interceptions that were missed, they were beasts.

[Gelston]

Also, Keller is going to show up and whine about something and then call the SEC crappy. Because that is what inferior conferences (oh wait, ND has no conference) do.

Is there any doubt that the SEC West isn't the top in the land?

[Androidpk]

BC >

[RichardCranium]

I bought four LSU Bama tickets in the lower bowl for $200 apiece a couple of days after the Auburn game. I could make about $600 off of them but I'll only make one game this year, being in Kansas, so I'll probably just end up giving them to friends while tailgating.

[Gelston]

I bought four LSU Bama tickets in the lower bowl for $200 apiece a couple of days after the Auburn game. I could make about $600 off of them but I'll only make one game this year, being in Kansas, so I'll probably just end up giving them to friends while tailgating.

You can send them to me for free.

[Warriorbird]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--9mrJE_7o--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/mqxlpexyoz2kelx5l8vh.jpg

This was a good night.

[Gelston]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--9mrJE_7o--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/mqxlpexyoz2kelx5l8vh.jpg

This was a good night.

Loved it. Close game the entire time, nail bitter in the last few minutes.

[RichardCranium]

You can send them to me for free.

I'll be there regardless. Will you wear your FSU jersey if I give you one?

[Gelston]

I'll be there regardless. Will you wear your FSU jersey if I give you one?

I have 0 FSU jerseys.

I'd tailgate instead anyways. No beer in there man.

[RichardCranium]

I have 0 FSU jerseys.

I'd tailgate instead anyways. No beer in there man.

You should come tailgate anyway. I'm driving down, so I'll be getting into Denham about midnight, then getting up and hitting campus around 7:00 or 8:00.

[Gelston]

You should come tailgate anyway. I'm driving down, so I'll be getting into Denham about midnight, then getting up and hitting campus around 7:00 or 8:00.

I am considering it. LSU tailgating beats going into the stadium IMO.

[RichardCranium]

I am considering it. LSU tailgating beats going into the stadium IMO.

If you do let me know. I'll give you my number and we can meet up (not to be confused with the AnticorRifling trademarked "meat up"). Until then, enjoy this picture of freshman Trey Quinn stylin after the win:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah212/Adam_May/Mobile%20Uploads/mtqcrp_zps6a976614.jpg (http://s1381.photobucket.com/user/Adam_May/media/Mobile%20Uploads/mtqcrp_zps6a976614.jpg.html)

[Warriorbird]

I am considering it. LSU tailgating beats going into the stadium IMO.

It's like 6x the party we throw once a year at our wine festival every single weekend there's football. There's not much that comes close as a college football experience.

[Warriorbird]

A certain Ole Miss fan had a meltdown about the loss to LSU.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLe7Ce9P04

[kutter]

A certain Ole Miss fan had a meltdown about the loss to LSU.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLe7Ce9P04

Oh my God, that shit is HYSTERICAL!

[RichardCranium]

Her boyfriend is fucking hilarious but I'm betting he didn't get laid last night.

[Keller]

LSU beats Ole Miss and MSU looks very suspect against a UK football powerhouse. Outside of Alabama, there is not a team in the SEC that looks like a top 10 team.

[Buckwheet]

LSU beats Ole Miss and MSU looks very suspect against a UK football powerhouse. Outside of Alabama, there is not a team in the SEC that looks like a top 10 team.

I disagree. I think Alabama could go 1 for 4 in their next set of games. They do have home advantage in two of them, but playing LSU at home has been difficult. I think Miss St. will be a strong test and we all remember "the field goal attempt". So while I don't disagree that Alabama has looked "decent", they haven't faced the level of competition that they have now at the end of their schedule.

Auburn shouldn't have lost to Miss St. in my opinion and I think Auburn has a strong chance of beating Alabama. These two performances could have been because they were coasting to easy wins and didn't come in as prepared as they should have?

[Gelston]

LSU beats Ole Miss and MSU looks very suspect against a UK football powerhouse. Outside of Alabama, there is not a team in the SEC that looks like a top 10 team.

Or maybe, just bear with me, the SEC West is full of amazing teams that can all beat each other. LSU is a 2 loss team... Who beat LSU? Oh... Miss St and Auburn.

[Keller]

Or maybe, just bear with me, the SEC West is full of amazing teams that can all beat each other. LSU is a 2 loss team... Who beat LSU? Oh... Miss St and Auburn.

I wouldn't expect any other argument from an SEC fan. That is the same narrative you've used for the last half decade.

[Gelston]

I wouldn't expect any other argument from an SEC fan. That is the same narrative you've used for the last half decade.

The last half decade that saw how many championships?

Also: So do the voters in the AP and coach's poll.

[Keller]

The last half decade that saw how many championships?

Also: So do the voters in the AP and coach's poll.

I've always said Alabama is juggernaut. Must be nice being able to ride Saban et al's coattails.

[Gelston]

I've always said Alabama is juggernaut. Must be nice being able to ride Saban et al's coattails.

I will concede that is due to Alabama's dominance that has made the SEC West what it is today. They are a victim of their own success. The conference had to get better all around to succeed against them. Every team in the SEC West, save for LSU, has changed their playbook up specifically to beat Alabama. Also notice how often SEC West teams rank highly in recruiting classes.

[Buckwheet]

I will concede that is due to Alabama's dominance that has made the SEC West what it is today. They are a victim of their own success. The conference had to get better all around to succeed against them. Every team in the SEC West, save for LSU, has changed their playbook up specifically to beat Alabama. Also notice how often SEC West teams rank highly in recruiting classes.

You either want to play with the best and be the best or play against the best and shut them up. As a 'Bama fan I enjoy it quite a bit. I actually enjoyed LSU pulling out that win even though we have a tough game coming up. I just wish more fans enjoyed great competition and could get over some of their hostility.

[Keller]

You either want to play with the best and be the best or play against the best and shut them up. As a 'Bama fan I enjoy it quite a bit. I actually enjoyed LSU pulling out that win even though we have a tough game coming up. I just wish more fans enjoyed great competition and could get over some of their hostility.

To be absolutely clear, I am not hostile towards the SEC.

I think there is a ton of parity in the SEC and, like I enjoy good games in the MAC and AAC, I enjoy good games in the SEC between mediocre teams.

[Gelston]

You either want to play with the best and be the best or play against the best and shut them up. As a 'Bama fan I enjoy it quite a bit. I actually enjoyed LSU pulling out that win even though we have a tough game coming up. I just wish more fans enjoyed great competition and could get over some of their hostility.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2233635-the-alabama-effect-on-the-sec

Interesting article from a few days back. Can't say I don't agree with it.

[RichardCranium]

To be absolutely clear, I am not hostile towards the SEC.

I think there is a ton of parity in the SEC and, like I enjoy good games in the MAC and AAC, I enjoy good games in the SEC between mediocre teams.

I lol'd.

[Keller]

Like I was saying. http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/93344/power-rankings-big-12-not-sec-is-no-1

[Warriorbird]

Like I was saying. http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/93344/power-rankings-big-12-not-sec-is-no-1

So you're saying the Big 12 blog agrees with you? I am shocked, shocked!

[Gelston]

Like I was saying. http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/93344/power-rankings-big-12-not-sec-is-no-1

Hey, what if your favorite team was 7-5.

[Gelston]

But hey, can't wait to see the Bowl Game Win %s.

[Keller]

If Mizzou wins, does the SEC even get one of the four playoff spots?

[RichardCranium]

If Mizzou wins, does the SEC even get one of the four playoff spots?

Seeing as how the SEC is the best conference in the history of ever, their champion is in regardless.

[Gelston]

If Mizzou wins, does the SEC even get one of the four playoff spots?

The SEC Champinoship IS the Championship. Those collections of bowl games after are inconsequential.

[Keller]

Mizzou, who lost at home to Indiana, will not be playing for the championship. Can Alabama lose the SEC championship and still get a spot? We all know they are the best team in college football, the question is whether they will get shut out with a fluke loss to Mizzou.

[Gelston]

Mizzou, who lost at home to Indiana, will not be playing for the championship. Can Alabama lose the SEC championship and still get a spot? We all know they are the best team in college football, the question is whether they will get shut out with a fluke loss to Mizzou.

They'll probably beat them worse than they beat Notre Dame in the BCS Championship.