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Methais
08-22-2014, 01:11 PM
Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday that his Justice Department is opening a criminal investigation into the brutal execution by Islamic State militants of American journalist James Foley, in the latest move by the administration to use the criminal justice system to pursue terrorists.

The announcement comes as the Obama administration steps up its airstrike campaign against the same militant organization -- and mulls additional American boots on the ground in Iraq.

Holder, during remarks in Washington, confirmed the "open criminal investigation" into Foley's beheading, which was recorded and posted online this week.

"Those who would perpetrate such acts need to understand something -- this Justice Department, this Department of Defense, this nation, we have long memories and our reach is very wide," Holder said. "We will not forget what happened, and people will be held accountable, one way or the other."

The remarks seemed to leave open the possibility of military action to seek justice in Foley's killing. The pursuit of a criminal probe, though, immediately raises questions about how investigators will be able to operate.

"This is more nonsense," Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., an Iraq war veteran, said in a statement to FoxNews.com. "What's most aggravating is that either in Foley's situation, or the other Americans in captivity, the Defense Department is being forced to take a backseat to the FBI and DOJ."

The administration also faced Republican criticism from some corners for pursuing a criminal investigation into the Benghazi terror attack in 2012. One suspect in that probe, Ahmed Abu Khatallah, was captured by U.S. forces in June and brought to the U.S. for a civilian court prosecution.

Holder has stood by the use of the American criminal justice system as a vehicle to try terrorists, pointing to past convictions in both the Bush and Obama administrations.

But U.S. investigators reportedly had trouble with access in the Libya probe -- an issue not likely to improve if they attempt to enter Syria, which is an active warzone, or even Iraq where large swaths of territory across the country's north are controlled by militants. Intelligence officials have said privately, before the Foley execution, that operating in both countries was extremely difficult.

Hunter said the U.S. military has a "deep network" that can "exceed whatever the FBI or DOJ can do."

FBI Director James Comey, though, reportedly said the "full force" of the government would be brought to the case.

"I'm very, very, sorry to say that these savages have turned it into a homicide investigation," Comey reportedly said in Denver.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/21/holder-says-criminal-investigation-launched-into-american-journalists-execution/

I'M SURE THIS WILL BE SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!!!!!!iiiiiii

Gelston
08-22-2014, 01:17 PM
Because they have done such a good job investigating incidents by even our own troops when we had moderate control of areas there.

Astray
08-22-2014, 01:18 PM
It was masked guys who are very angry.

Case Closed.

kutter
08-22-2014, 01:31 PM
I wonder under what authority he will try to prosecute someone? He was not a diplomat, he was a journalist. While tragic, Holder cannot possibly make the argument that they broke any US law.

Gelston
08-22-2014, 01:35 PM
I wonder under what authority he will try to prosecute someone? He was not a diplomat, he was a journalist. While tragic, Holder cannot possibly make the argument that they broke any US law.

It is almost as if you believe the US doesn't have judicial authority over everywhere outside of the US.

Androidpk
08-22-2014, 01:37 PM
I wonder under what authority he will try to prosecute someone? He was not a diplomat, he was a journalist. While tragic, Holder cannot possibly make the argument that they broke any US law.

His job is irrelevant.

Gelston
08-22-2014, 01:39 PM
His job is irrelevant.

True, even if he was a diplomat we have no authority to investigate/prosecute murder in another country.

Ker_Thwap
08-22-2014, 01:42 PM
Flag waving for the constituency.

Candor
08-22-2014, 01:43 PM
"The pursuit of a criminal probe, though, immediately raises questions about how investigators will be able to operate. "

Well...duh...

kutter
08-22-2014, 01:53 PM
My point in referencing him not being a diplomat though is that you tend to get a lot more help from the Govt of the Country if they are since they do not want something similar happening to their people in the respective country, so investigation and extradition if they could locate them, would be far more likely, well, relatively so if he had been a diplomat.

Methais
08-22-2014, 02:22 PM
Don't worry guys, the police are on the case.

Gelston
08-22-2014, 02:29 PM
Don't worry guys, the police are on the case.

The Ferguson PD?

Methais
08-22-2014, 03:24 PM
The Ferguson PD?

http://www.thelostogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/police-academy.jpg

Jeril
08-22-2014, 03:32 PM
http://www.thelostogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/police-academy.jpg

ROFL.

Candor
08-22-2014, 06:39 PM
http://www.thelostogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/police-academy.jpg

I feel better already...

Gelston
08-22-2014, 07:58 PM
They DO get results.

Taernath
08-22-2014, 08:40 PM
Don't worry guys, the police are on the case.

CSI: Baghdad

"Another terror killing? Strange... I don't feel afraid." /puts on ihram scarf

ALLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Dwaar
08-24-2014, 03:25 PM
Justice Department wants to get involved... fine. More resources helping locate these guys.

Thing we should be doing.... The President, Holder, DoD spokesmen, State Dept. spokesmen, everyone in an official capacity.... should only have to do one thing....

Look directly in the camera... and say "we will kill you, unless you stop harming innocents".

No talking around it, no talk of prosecution in our legal system, just a simple... we will kill you and leave your body lying in the streets for your fellow jihadists to find. Then we will kill them when they come to get you.

Of course that would be to "rude" or "improper".... or some such horseshit for some.

kutter
08-24-2014, 03:30 PM
Not that it will ever happen, but this is what we need to do.


http://youtu.be/kkSFIWzi7aA

Androidpk
08-24-2014, 03:34 PM
I have a very particular set of skills..

Latrinsorm
08-24-2014, 03:41 PM
Justice Department wants to get involved... fine. More resources helping locate these guys.

Thing we should be doing.... The President, Holder, DoD spokesmen, State Dept. spokesmen, everyone in an official capacity.... should only have to do one thing....

Look directly in the camera... and say "we will kill you, unless you stop harming innocents".

No talking around it, no talk of prosecution in our legal system, just a simple... we will kill you and leave your body lying in the streets for your fellow jihadists to find. Then we will kill them when they come to get you.

Of course that would be to "rude" or "improper".... or some such horseshit for some.Well, when your enemy foot soldiers are expressly hoping to be killed by you and expressly using what they call imperialistic threats as a recruitment pitch, I'd say it would be "self-defeating".

Bottom line, military action (et al) is only phase 1. Phase 3 is lasting peace, but what's phase 2? It turns out to be economic regrowth. Hungry people and desperate people are almost exactly overlapping, take care of the first and you take care of the second. This is an affront to our dignity: why should we have to BRIBE people to be nice?? Because it worked with Germany and Japan, and it'll work in the Middle East too, whose crimes and history pale in comparison to those two polities. (To be fair, Japan's do relative to Germany too. Those wacky Germans!)

Androidpk
08-24-2014, 03:49 PM
So we need a war against hunger?

Latrinsorm
08-24-2014, 04:07 PM
And I know just where to start...

https://www.google.com/maps/preview?safe=off&q=budapest+map&ie=UTF-8&ei=50X6U-jpM6nhsATq2IGIBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

Androidpk
08-24-2014, 04:09 PM
And I know just where to start...

https://www.google.com/maps/preview?safe=off&q=budapest+map&ie=UTF-8&ei=50X6U-jpM6nhsATq2IGIBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

??!!???????!!111

Warriorbird
08-24-2014, 04:14 PM
I'd begin the war at Gundel. Mmm mmm mmm.

http://www.gundel.hu/en/

Then maybe Gerbeaud.

http://www.gerbeaud.hu/bistro-pub

Or the New York Cafe

http://budapest.boscolohotels.com/restaurant-and-bar/new-york-cafe/

Latrinsorm
08-24-2014, 04:35 PM
??!!???????!!111Hunger, Hungary? You're killing me, Andy.

Androidpk
08-24-2014, 04:40 PM
Hmm, the one time I was in Hungary I WAS pretty hungry. Coincidence??

Methais
08-24-2014, 06:04 PM
Did someone say hungry Hungarian?


http://youtu.be/QetMVN5hr2w