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Androidpk
08-21-2014, 07:33 AM
Anyone have some good tips or know of some good websites for strategies?
Does this mean you are too stupid to make your own strategies?
Parkbandit
08-21-2014, 07:52 AM
4 move checkmate. It only works once vs. bad players.
Chess is more about experience and seeing moves ahead than it is learning a specific strategy.
Androidpk
08-21-2014, 08:07 AM
4 move checkmate. It only works once vs. bad players.
Chess is more about experience and seeing moves ahead than it is learning a specific strategy.
Hah, that is pretty sweet. I'll have to remember that in case I play someone bad. Definitely wouldn't work against my current opponent. I'm not very good at seeing multiple moves ahead but I'm slowly getting there.
Jarvan
08-21-2014, 08:18 AM
Hah, that is pretty sweet. I'll have to remember that in case I play someone bad. Definitely wouldn't work against my current opponent. I'm not very good at seeing multiple moves ahead but I'm slowly getting there.
One of the best strategies.. is to win.
Sometimes, as Data showed us, you should play to draw tho. (Not exactly chess but it still works)
Androidpk
08-21-2014, 08:21 AM
One of the best strategies.. is to win.
Sometimes, as Data showed us, you should play to draw tho. (Not exactly chess but it still works)
Aargh, I hate that there can be a draw. There have been a few times I almost beat the computer and it forced a draw.
Willington
08-21-2014, 12:58 PM
Repetition..After a few thousand games you'll be able to see what the other guys trying to do.
Johnny Five
08-21-2014, 01:02 PM
Don't move till you see it.
Wrathbringer
08-21-2014, 01:10 PM
I'll recommend anything by Jeremy silman, especially the amateur' s mind and how to reassess your chess. For strategy, logical chess: move by move: every move explained by chernev will help you find out what you like and why. Then you can get specialized books on those openings and variations. Best of luck. Have fun with it.
Edit: Have to say that my system by nimzowitsch really helped me out as well early on.
Danical
08-21-2014, 01:13 PM
Dunno if you've seen it, but I thought this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NwnSltHFo) was entertaining.
Whirlin
08-21-2014, 01:13 PM
Chess.com is decent... interlocks with Facebook, many users, just a good online way to play with random people
Wrathbringer
08-21-2014, 01:18 PM
Found some advice I gave a friend awhile back.
This stuff seems obvious, but I'd honestly never thought about them. Maybe you have.
1. Priority #1 in the opening is developing your pieces to useful, versatile squares before the other guy.
2. In the opening, try to occupy the center with pawns or control it from afar with pieces.
3. No more than 3 pawn moves in the first 8 moves.
4. Don't move the same piece twice until you're developed.
5. Don't develop the queen until after knights and bishops. Early queen development usually means lost tempos trying to deal with threats to her when you could be developing pieces.
6. Complete your development by castling no later than move 10.
7. Don't launch an attack until you're developed.
Controlling the center will give your pieces places to go after the opening, and all pieces are more effective from the center, especially knights. These guidelines will help ensure an early lead in development over your opponent, and this is very difficult to overcome when someone knows what they're doing in the middle game as you obviously do. Hope those help.
Androidpk
08-21-2014, 02:42 PM
I'll check all of this out this evening. Thanks, dudes.
Methais
08-21-2014, 02:48 PM
Does this mean you are too stupid to make your own strategies?
Hey Back, let's play some Mortal Kombat, or any fighting game, and after you get beaten 100 times in a row because you can't come up with a winning strategy, I'll just chalk it up to you being too stupid.
Anyone have some good tips or know of some good websites for strategies?
Clearly the answer is to have Back teach you.
I'm sure Back is too busy trying to work 30 hours a week though, so I would recommend Alex P. Keaton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JcZmU3rAsc
Velfi
08-21-2014, 02:49 PM
Dunno if you've seen it, but I thought this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NwnSltHFo) was entertaining.
Awesome. Magnus is the man.
Androidpk
08-21-2014, 03:11 PM
Hey Back, let's play some Mortal Kombat, or any fighting game, and after you get beaten 100 times in a row because you can't come up with a winning strategy, I'll just chalk it up to you being too stupid.
Clearly the answer is to have Back teach you.
I'm sure Back is too busy trying to work 30 hours a week though, so I would recommend Alex P. Keaton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JcZmU3rAsc
:lol2:
Androidpk
08-21-2014, 03:13 PM
Does this mean you are too stupid to make your own strategies?
Yeah man, only totally stupid people ever ask for advice or help.
Thondalar
08-21-2014, 03:13 PM
As Whirlin mentioned, Chess.com is a pretty solid site if you're just looking to get some practice in any time. I play there every now and then. Wrathbringer's list near the top of this page is also pretty solid advice for beginners. As you probably know, there are about 5,000 books on this subject out there...personally, I've found Batsford Chess Openings 1 and 2 to be very helpful if you're just looking at examining basically every possible opening scenario. The single most helpful book for me personally, for improving my middle game, was a book called Combination Challenge by Lou Hays. It's basically chess target practice...over 1100 scenarios that train you to look for pins, forks, discoveries, etc.
As with anything though, it really is just practice makes perfect. Some people are naturally gifted with chess, some people have to work really hard to be good at it.
Latrinsorm
08-21-2014, 03:14 PM
Don't move till you see it.That movie could have been made so much better with Samuel L. Jackson in place of Laurence Fishburne. "You can't trade motherfucking queens with me! I ain't in the god damn trading business!"
2. In the opening, try to occupy the center with pawns or control it from afar with pieces.This is what I was going to say, control the middle. Chess is a (pre-industrial) war simulation, after all.
4. Don't move the same piece twice until you're developed.If only so you can accurately describe yourself as "hyper modern".
Thondalar
08-21-2014, 03:20 PM
That movie could have been made so much better with Samuel L. Jackson in place of Laurence Fishburne. "You can't trade motherfucking queens with me! I ain't in the god damn trading business!"
Rofl. I can totally see that in my head.
This is what I was going to say, control the middle. Chess is a (pre-industrial) war simulation, after all.
This is the conventional wisdom. Many grandmasters have had great success going against this grain (most notably Bobby Fisher) and allowing their opponent to overdevelop the middle and then either blitzing hard on their castle side or setting up an ambush. I enjoy doing the latter one sometimes against less experienced players because it usually results in a whirlwind of trades that I come out ahead on by one or two pieces and move straight to pushing pawns. I'm very quick to trade queens and very quick to move to the end game...both are things that less experienced players seem to freak out about.
Androidpk
08-21-2014, 03:23 PM
Does my king look like a bitch!? Say check again, I dare you, I double dare you, motherfucker!
Now I want to play chess with him :lol:
Methais
08-21-2014, 03:47 PM
Does my king look like a bitch!? Say check again, I dare you, I double dare you, motherfucker!
Now I want to play chess with him :lol:
Well I mean it is black. And bald.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Chess_piece_-_Black_king.JPG
Astray
08-21-2014, 04:27 PM
Flip the board when losing. They can't count it as a loss if you never actually lost.
RangerZ
08-21-2014, 10:54 PM
Most of my knowledge has come from the tutorials on Fritz or Chessmaster programs: basic strategies like pawn management (openings, islands, passed pawns), forks, discoveries, endgame.
I still consider myself a beginner. I easily beat the easiest settings on programs, but the next 2 levels start challenging me. I always got a kick out of the computer, when it would sometimes say '14 moves to checkmate' before it beat me.
1. Priority #1 in the opening is developing your pieces to useful, versatile squares before the other guy.
2. In the opening, try to occupy the center with pawns or control it from afar with pieces.
3. No more than 3 pawn moves in the first 8 moves.
4. Don't move the same piece twice until you're developed.
5. Don't develop the queen until after knights and bishops. Early queen development usually means lost tempos trying to deal with threats to her when you could be developing pieces.
6. Complete your development by castling no later than move 10.
7. Don't launch an attack until you're developed.
For some reason, this kind of made me thing of some Civ strategies that I've read. They get real concerned if you spend even one extra turn on moving a worker a space instead of having him build. It probably explains why I never was a great Civ player.
Stanley Burrell
08-21-2014, 11:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJk0p-98Xzc
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