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Marl
09-27-2004, 07:35 PM
OK I started this little fellow out of boredom and my fast migration ends in a day or so, so any help will be taken gladly, want to go two handed and be a pretty good gem singer. Alos can you sing up claidhs or katanas or any other weighted twohander?




Race: Giant Profession: Bard (shown as: Bard)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 99428 Level: 9
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 69 (24) ... 69 (24)
Constitution (CON): 62 (16) ... 62 (16)
Dexterity (DEX): 83 (11) ... 83 (11)
Agility (AGI): 78 (9) ... 78 (9)
Discipline (DIS): 70 (10) ... 70 (10)
Aura (AUR): 93 (16) ... 93 (16)
Logic (LOG): 54 (-3) ... 54 (-3)
Intuition (INT): 54 (2) ... 54 (2)
Wisdom (WIS): 42 (-4) ... 42 (-4)
Influence (INF): 89 (24) ... 89 (24)
Mana: 38

your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 45 9
Combat Maneuvers............ 45 9
Two-Handed Weapons....... 90 20
Physical Fitness...................| 82 18
Dodging............................| 45 9
Harness Power......................50 10
Mental Lore - Manipulation... 20 4
Mental Lore - Telepathy........ 35 7
Perception.........................| 25 5

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 9

Artha
09-27-2004, 07:36 PM
Alos can you sing up claidhs or katanas or any other weighted twohander?

No. My advice is to go the Polearm route.

Soulpieced
09-27-2004, 07:40 PM
There is no reason to double physical training.

Marl
09-27-2004, 07:45 PM
It doesnt help in redux 2xing in PT? I dont want to be like every other bard in the lands and swing a polearm thanks.

Marl
09-27-2004, 08:39 PM
Since I cant sing up a weighted 2 hander is it possible to sing up non weighted 2 handers? Also what is the best way to go with lores? I am going into this with not alot of knowledge about bards.

Artha
09-28-2004, 12:06 AM
You can sing these weapons:
Bastard swords
Battle Axes
Flails
Flamberges
Quarterstaves
War Mattocks
Twohanded swords

Maybe mauls, I'm not sure.

Air lore is going to effect sonic weapons/armors. The more you have, the more likely an air flare or double air flare is. It also improves breakage. And helps out the armor. Air also helps with Song of Tonis, adding to the speed and dodging bonuses.

Manipulation is going to boost your Singing Sword AS. Also at 15 ranks, you can focus Song of Disruption for half mana. At 60 ranks, you become as effective with the targeted version as a bard playing a two handed instrument. I'm not sure if the bonuses stack.

Telepathy is going to help with Song of Rage/Depression. Also, for every 2 ranks your spell renewal time rises by 2 seconds.

Eupata
09-28-2004, 09:17 AM
How much does manip affect the singing sword anyone ahve any idea?

Chadj
09-28-2004, 12:32 PM
Go with an Brawling/OHE bard if you want to be a little different. Go to Voln. You will pwn the living shit outta everything.

Doubling PT isn't needed. Anyone who starts training looking for redux on a bard isn't training smart. Semidux will come in time. Just wait for it. Doubling PT is just a waste of points. And, if you are trained properly, you shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.

Manip barely affects anything unless you have a lot of ranks.

And no, you can't sing up anything that is weighted (Katana, Claidh), or has a natural AS bonus (Naginata)