View Full Version : How to get off Alfred's harassment list?
Dagre
05-18-2014, 12:20 PM
I was dying alot in the bowels and then one day Alfred says my behavior is considered harassment. I had been giving him gems so didn't think much of all the dying.
Is there anyway to get on his good side again or am I done?
Characters name is Gishbatei if it makes a difference.
JackWhisper
05-19-2014, 10:36 AM
Isn't Alfred Tillmen?
Tisket
05-19-2014, 11:45 AM
If Alfred is just another player, why care what he thinks? It's Shattered anyway, there are no rules.
DaCapn
05-19-2014, 12:57 PM
If Alfred is just another player, why care what he thinks? It's Shattered anyway, there are no rules.
Pretty handy to be in good standing with a rescue bot, I'd think.
Tisket
05-19-2014, 01:11 PM
True I suppose. I don't play Shattered anymore.
Luftstreitkräfte
05-21-2014, 01:02 PM
LOL
You're doing it wrong!
Okay, Tillmen is good at writing scripts. Jaeden / IW here. When I was naughty years back I killed Alfred a bit so I have some experience with this. You likely died so quickly that you caused him to have a raise penalty. That is likely what put you onto the list.
Step 1: Slow down your recovery script as to not disrupt the Alfred
Step 2: Donate $25 to tillmen@lichproject.org
Step 3: Contact Tillmen / Alfred through lnet and plead your case.
Step 4: Donate $25 to tillmen@lichproject.org
Step 5: Pray
Dagre
05-24-2014, 08:20 PM
Interesting reputation system. A single post and I'm at -7615 points. I'm guessing not to many people pay attention to that due to the various asshats on these boards.
Anyway, anyone have anything constructive to add?
JackWhisper
05-24-2014, 09:16 PM
Enjoy some green. Ignore the people who hate. It's good to be green.
Gompers
05-24-2014, 09:59 PM
I'm not quite sure you are in any sort of "list". I've never confirmed this, but I'm pretty certain Alfred will "warn" you if you depart-confirm while he is attempting a rescue. It's just his way of letting you know that you are wrong. If you are less than level 10, keep depart confirming all you'd like - but after that, it's worth it to get a chrism raise from him. Also, enjoy more rep.
Edit: Just saw you were hunting the bowels, so definitely not less than level 10.
Tenlaar
05-24-2014, 10:01 PM
Anyway, anyone have anything constructive to add?
Tillmen (Alfred) is an actual person who can use words and stuff, even have a conversation if you catch him on a good day.
Dagre
05-25-2014, 05:46 AM
Since I can't really learn anything in the landing anymore its not really an issue. I just wasn't sure what the trigger was. I'll take your advise Tenlaar and see if I can catch him on shattered sometime.
Tillmen
05-27-2014, 04:12 AM
Alfred does the warn harassment after you reject his request to locate you on lnet. Also, the locate spell doesn't work in the bowels.
He will also do the warn harassment if your group is closed. So, whatever is a couple lines before the warn harassment is the reason he couldn't rescue you.
Candor
05-27-2014, 05:57 AM
I don't understand how those actions are harassment in any way. Even by Prime standards.
JackWhisper
05-27-2014, 06:03 AM
Pretty simple reasoning, actually. His script likely filters.
* Bob just bit the dust!
AlfredSaveScript1.0
Alfred runs to save Bob.
Bob has rejected your request for location.
AlfredSaveScript Warn Harasses to stop trying to save Bob because of an inability to locate.
* Dave just bit the dust!
Alfred runs to save Dave.
Dave's group is closed.
AlfredSaveScript Warn Harasses Dave due to Group Closure.
*Bob just bit the dust!
*Dave just bit the dust!
AlfredSaveScript1.0 checks it's Harass filter. For any various reason that he is unable to save them, it is saved in the Warn Harass filter. Because they're warned, he doesn't waste either of their time trying to save them fruitlessly.
Frankly, it's rather simple and direct.
Tillmen
05-27-2014, 01:31 PM
I don't understand how those actions are harassment in any way. Even by Prime standards.
Those actions cause Alfred significant mental distress. Taunting him with your deaths and then not allowing him to rescue you. It's unconscionable. He has but one purpose in the world, and you take that away from him! You monsters!
Also, the warn harassment verb has almost no meaning in Prime, and even less meaning in Shattered. Someone used to have a script that every so often did a "who full", picked a name at random, and did a warn interact or warn harass. I think it was Glitch.
When Alfred uses warn harassment, it's not associated with any list. He will try to rescue you again next time you die, or if you chat "rescue" to him. There's only two lists that will stop him from even attempting to rescue. One is an option set by whispering to him. The other you get added to if you attack him.
JackWhisper
05-27-2014, 01:46 PM
I say never save Candor. He'll just tattle on you.
Also, the warn harassment verb has almost no meaning in Prime, and even less meaning in Shattered.
I've had the warn harass text highlighted black for a decade so I don't even see it. I'm still kicking.
Dagre
05-27-2014, 08:57 PM
Alfred does the warn harassment after you reject his request to locate you on lnet. Also, the locate spell doesn't work in the bowels.
He will also do the warn harassment if your group is closed. So, whatever is a couple lines before the warn harassment is the reason he couldn't rescue you.
Thanks Tillmen. I'll be sure to pay attention to it the next time I die.
Elantari
05-27-2014, 09:39 PM
Interesting reputation system. A single post and I'm at -7615 points. I'm guessing not to many people pay attention to that due to the various asshats on these boards.
Anyway, anyone have anything constructive to add?
Nah. Most folks here are obvious asshats There are a rare few folks who aren't complete asshats, but for the most part, this is asshat central.
Candor
05-28-2014, 01:50 AM
I say never save Candor. He'll just tattle on you.
And when was the last time you think Candor asked for a rescue?
Tenlaar
05-28-2014, 02:10 AM
Nah. Most folks here are obvious asshats There are a rare few folks who aren't complete asshats, but for the most part, this is asshat central.
When everybody in the room is an asshat...you're the asshat.
Glitch
06-04-2014, 04:58 PM
Also, the warn harassment verb has almost no meaning in Prime, and even less meaning in Shattered. Someone used to have a script that every so often did a "who full", picked a name at random, and did a warn interact or warn harass. I think it was Glitch.
When I first started my silly scripts I used to get so many great PM's about that.
Also Tillmenn sux.
Alfred is worst.
Bhaalizmo
06-09-2014, 10:33 PM
When I first started my silly scripts I used to get so many great PM's about that.
Also Tillmenn sux.
Alfred is worst.
The glitch warn interact script was the best. Bring it back!
Glitch
06-11-2014, 02:23 PM
It's just not worth $20-45 unfortunately. I absolutely would if it was $5 for a shattered or basic account, or if they'd drop premium costs down to $20 or below.
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