NBA: Sterling and ownership of the Clippers

[cwolff]

What's going to happen with this? Any opinions? I wouldn't be surprised if they don't make him sell his interest in the team.


The heavy hitters have come out in response to a TMZ recording that has rocked the sports world, with LA Clippers owner Donald Sterling allegedly making anti-minority comments to his girlfriend.

The recording that surfaced Saturday identified Sterling as the man heard demanding that his girlfriend — reported by TMZ to be V. Stiviano, who is of black and Mexican descent — stop associating with blacks or bring black people to Clipper games. Stiviano had posted a photo of herself and NBA legend Magic Johnson together on her Instagram account, but the picture has been removed.

[Warriorbird]

Magic Johnson has a lot of behind the scenes power. Banning Sterling from day to day operations like MLB did to Schott would be a good plan. Otherwise the league could face a lot of backlash that effects revenue for all of them.

[Ardwen]

Unlike major league baseball they cant easily force him to sell, but until there's proof this tape is real this shouldn't even be under discussion. When someone you are suing for millions suddenly releases shocking tapes to the media odds arent what I'd call high that the tape is 100 percent genuine. But hey so much for innocent til proven guilty in the US

[cwolff]

Unlike major league baseball they cant easily force him to sell, but until there's proof this tape is real this shouldn't even be under discussion. When someone you are suing for millions suddenly releases shocking tapes to the media odds arent what I'd call high that the tape is 100 percent genuine. But hey so much for innocent til proven guilty in the US

This isn't a criminal complaint.

[Ardwen]

And that means we shouldn't wait to so if its true? If TMZ is the new standard for truth and honesty in reporting this country is in far worse shape then I realized.

[SHAFT]

If it is him, and it probably is given his history, the fact that he was illegally recorded while having a private conversation in his own home is just as bad as his stance on minorities. It's a bad situation all around.

I'm not sure he's 100% racist, but his feelings and views towards minorities are straight from the 1800's. Magic is right though, he has no business owning a NBA franchise.

[Geijon Khyree]

The first time it read a bit confusingly besides some Magic Johnson comments and the original statement, but the full transcript is horrible.

[Latrinsorm]

He's been a scumbag for decades. And for Ardwen, that description was proven by the US Department of Justice in a court of law. It's conceivable that this particular act of scumbaggery at this exact moment (great Clips terrible Lakers, no football, playoffs) will get enough publicity to force the league's hand. It all comes down to what the other owners want, the same as any other disciplinary action.

There's no need for a crime to have been committed, and there's never been a presumption of innocence, burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, etc. Birdman Andersen was suspended for two years, never arrested. Roger Brown was suspended for life for knowing a gambler. The commissioner's power extends to anyone who "in his opinion" is "guilty of conduct that does not conform to the standards of morality".

[Ardwen]

If being a scumbag was all it took to force owners to sell a whole lot of pro-sports owners would have had to sell, and a hell of alot of athletes would have been thrown out of leagues. He was a slumlord when he bought the team, he hasn't changed, and he won't change, when you start throwing players out of the league for being trash you can force owners to sell.

[Parkbandit]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmLvU6ICUAEo6el.jpg

So much for that May 15th NAACP Awards Banquet...

[Atlanteax]

Maybe the lifetime achievement reward was for throwing a lot of money at the NAACP to provide cover for himself.

[Atlanteax]

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10848577/los-angeles-clippers-stage-silent-protest-donald-sterling-hide-team-logo


The Clippers gathered at center court before a 118-97 Game 4 loss in their first-round series against the Golden State Warriors and took off their Clippers warm-up shirts and left them there. They then warmed up wearing inside-out red shooting shirts that did not display the Clippers name or logo. During the game, players wore black arm or wrist bands and black socks.

River said he wasn't on-board with the black socks protest, but said he was aware of it and was fine with his players taking the stand.

[AnticorRifling]

Oh shit they wore black socks? They are serious. Why didn't they just not play the game?

[Parkbandit]

Oh shit they wore black socks? They are serious. Why didn't they just not play the game?

In their defense.. they didn't.

They lost by 21 points.

[Allereli]

Oh shit they wore black socks? They are serious. Why didn't they just not play the game?

contracts, the fans

[AnticorRifling]

contracts, the fans

Gotta get paid and then be angry afterwards, I'm with you.

[SHAFT]

This broad has over 100 hours of audio tapes on sterling, or so she claims. Sterling contacted her and asked how can all of this go away. What do you think? Cash. This chick is the definition of a gold-digger.

All the money in the world and a lifetime of experience, and sterling is bringing home women like this. They're both fucked in the head to me.

[cwolff]

This broad has over 100 hours of audio tapes on sterling, or so she claims. Sterling contacted her and asked how can all of this go away. What do you think? Cash. This chick is the definition of a gold-digger.

All the money in the world and a lifetime of experience, and sterling is bringing home women like this. They're both fucked in the head to me.

Definitely. She's a pig too. She could also be recording because Sterling's wife is suing her. Since this chicks been "dating" the old bastard she's spent 1.8million on cars and other luxury items. The wife is suing the GF and apparently the husband/BF is still stupid enough to stay with her. The whole things a pigsty.

[Allereli]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2044212-village-people-singer-plans-to-ban-clippers-from-playing-ymca

[Tgo01]

Why didn't they just not play the game?

That's what I was wondering when I read the story.

They were so angry about all of this but they want to be sure to get their millions first.

[cwolff]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2044212-village-people-singer-plans-to-ban-clippers-from-playing-ymca

HEY! That village people dude should be in our Military Faker thread.

[SHAFT]

That's what I was wondering when I read the story.

They were so angry about all of this but they want to be sure to get their millions first.

You have to play the game. Not playing the game cheats the fans, and not to mention the players. They're trying to win an NBA Championship. Forfeit a playoff game? Come on.

Does anyone think the Clippers are trying to win a title for Donald Sterling? No. They should continue to play and do whatever it takes to make it to the Finals. Can you imagine the Clippers making it to the NBA Finals despite their owner, who is stuck in the 1950's? It'd be great.

The NBA and the commissioner need to be the ones taking action against Donald Sterling. I say they offer Sterling above market value for the Clippers and the NBA purchases the team. Then the NBA can decide to sell the team to a group like Magic Johnson's. Magic Johnson and his group becoming the owners of the Clippers would be a fitting end to this story. Hell, ban Sterling from attending games and let Magic Johnson sit in his seats. Classic.

[Wrathbringer]

Who cares? Let the guy be racist if he wants. I say no penalty, no fine, no nothing. So much for free speech.

[SHAFT]

Who cares? Let the guy be racist if he wants. I say no penalty, no fine, no nothing. So much for free speech.

You can't have an owner with racist ideas and views running an NBA franchise. They have a black coach and mostly black players. You think Doc Rivers is going to want to come back next year? How about Chris Paul resigning? Probably not.

No free agents will want to sign with the Clippers and companies will not advertise with an organization that is owned by a guy like Sterling. That is the reason why he has to go.

People can be racist in their own homes or in their own hearts, but when it gets out you have a problem. Next time he ought to be careful about bringing money grubbing gold-diggers into his house.

[Latrinsorm]

You can't have an owner with racist ideas and views running an NBA franchise. They have a black coach and mostly black players. You think Doc Rivers is going to want to come back next year? How about Chris Paul resigning? Probably not.

No free agents will want to sign with the Clippers and companies will not advertise with an organization that is owned by a guy like Sterling. That is the reason why he has to go.

People can be racist in their own homes or in their own hearts, but when it gets out you have a problem. Next time he ought to be careful about bringing money grubbing gold-diggers into his house.I think it's pretty racist to call Blake Griffin "mostly black", but that's not the point. Companies are already pulling (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10851689/sponsors-ponder-deals-los-angeles-clippers-donald-sterling-purported-racist-comments) endorsements. Also in that article: Sterling's ex-wife has no doubt he's the man on the tape.

[Velfi]

Who cares? Let the guy be racist if he wants. I say no penalty, no fine, no nothing. So much for free speech.

Disgusted responses from the citizenry concerning his statements is not an abridgement of free speech. Jesus.

[Ardwen]

He was a known racist prior to this happening, he's been sued multiple times over the years for it, not one person that is currently a Clipper did not know he that, suddenly being upset over it is a joke. Hypocrisy in sports knows no bounds though. Somehow he won a past NAACP lifetime award, of course he is/was a massive donor to them and elsewhere. While its unlikely he'll survive this as an owner, its ridiculous that people that supported him before are suddenly upset. He hasn't changed at all. suddenly the athletes care, because they are worried about their images now.

[Wrathbringer]

Disgusted responses from the citizenry concerning his statements is not an abridgement of free speech. Jesus.

Fortunately, I didn't say it was. And I'm not Jesus. I'm Wrathbringer.


You can't have an owner with racist ideas and views running an NBA franchise. They have a black coach and mostly black players. You think Doc Rivers is going to want to come back next year? How about Chris Paul resigning? Probably not.

No free agents will want to sign with the Clippers and companies will not advertise with an organization that is owned by a guy like Sterling. That is the reason why he has to go.

People can be racist in their own homes or in their own hearts, but when it gets out you have a problem. Next time he ought to be careful about bringing money grubbing gold-diggers into his house.

"Don't Ask Don't Tell" eh? Cool for racists, not cool for gays. Got it.

[SHAFT]

He was a known racist prior to this happening, he's been sued multiple times over the years for it, not one person that is currently a Clipper did not know he that, suddenly being upset over it is a joke. Hypocrisy in sports knows no bounds though. Somehow he won a past NAACP lifetime award, of course he is/was a massive donor to them and elsewhere. While its unlikely he'll survive this as an owner, its ridiculous that people that supported him before are suddenly upset. He hasn't changed at all. suddenly the athletes care, because they are worried about their images now.

Now people are hearing how he really feels. It's all been speculation prior. While I agree where there is smoke you generally find fire, this was the last nail in the coffin for Sterling due to the fact you actually have this coming from him.

[Velfi]

Fortunately, I didn't say it was. And I'm not Jesus. I'm Wrathbringer.


Who cares? Let the guy be racist if he wants. I say no penalty, no fine, no nothing. So much for free speech.

Oh. Alright.

[SHAFT]

"Don't Ask Don't Tell" eh? Cool for racists, not cool for gays. Got it.

I'm not really into arguing on the internet, but I've never said a word about the "Don't ask don't tell" policy regarding gays. My personal opinions on the matter are to accept everyone, no matter their race or sexual preference, at all times.

Also, I say this with peace and love. Peace and love!

[Wrathbringer]

Oh. Alright.

I see you're illiterate. Are you here legally?

[Latrinsorm]

He was a known racist prior to this happening, he's been sued multiple times over the years for it, not one person that is currently a Clipper did not know he that, suddenly being upset over it is a joke. Hypocrisy in sports knows no bounds though. Somehow he won a past NAACP lifetime award, of course he is/was a massive donor to them and elsewhere. While its unlikely he'll survive this as an owner, its ridiculous that people that supported him before are suddenly upset. He hasn't changed at all. suddenly the athletes care, because they are worried about their images now.On the other hand, his racism in the past was directed at anonymous renters rather than Magic Johnson. Can you think of a worse person to be publicly racist against as a Los Angeles basketball owner than Magic?

I also don't know of anyone who publicly supported Sterling before. I can only remember him being derided for his racism and general suckiness, just not to this level.

[Parkbandit]

He was a known racist prior to this happening, he's been sued multiple times over the years for it, not one person that is currently a Clipper did not know he that, suddenly being upset over it is a joke. Hypocrisy in sports knows no bounds though. Somehow he won a past NAACP lifetime award, of course he is/was a massive donor to them and elsewhere. While its unlikely he'll survive this as an owner, its ridiculous that people that supported him before are suddenly upset. He hasn't changed at all. suddenly the athletes care, because they are worried about their images now.

The NAACP is about money and politics.. above everything else.

[Ardwen]

He was sued by Elgin Baylor hardly anonymous. He was as big a star as Magic in his day. And signing to play for him or coach his team is as much support as anything else, only a fool could think otherwise.

[Velfi]

I see you're illiterate. Are you here legally?

Would you care to bring forth your alternative definition for the "so much for free speech" canard?

[SHAFT]

He was sued by Elgin Baylor hardly anonymous. He was as big a star as Magic in his day. And signing to play for him or coach his team is as much support as anything else, only a fool could think otherwise.

The Elgin Baylor thing was thrown out. He did lose the case about discriminating against minorities however.

[Thondalar]

I think it's ridiculous. Why isn't this guy allowed to dislike black people? Who gives a shit who he likes or dislikes?

Can we prove that his "racism" is affecting his duties as owner? If we could, then there would be an issue. I am completely, wholly against racism that directly affects anyone's ability to get a job, or obtain advancement, or education....a white dude telling his black girlfriend not to bring her black friends to his basketball games is hardly that.

The NAACP was all ready to give him a lifetime achievement award, which they don't often do for white folk. I'm assuming they had some pretty good reasons for it.

[Ardwen]

they had millions of reasons to award him, like they did in 2009. Already returned they donation this award was generated by though.

[Allereli]

Who gives a shit who he likes or dislikes?

his black girlfriend sure does

[Wrathbringer]

Would you care to bring forth your alternative definition for the "so much for free speech" canard?

How cumbersome. No.

[SHAFT]

I think it's ridiculous. Why isn't this guy allowed to dislike black people? Who gives a shit who he likes or dislikes?

Seriously? It's ok for the owner of an NBA franchise, which is an African-American driven league, to come out and say things that are perceived as negative towards African-Americans?

The NBA is a business. If you do anything that affects business, you're fucked. He can be racist or homophobic or whatever in the privacy of his own home when he no longer owns an NBA franchise. No one will care then.

[Thondalar]

they had millions of reasons to award him, like they did in 2009. Already returned they donation this award was generated by though.

Yeah, I wasn't aware of the money aspect of it, I don't really keep up with this sort of thing...but it does make sense. The NAACP has been a sham for a long time now.

[AnticorRifling]

Don't both parties have to know a recording is happening in that state? He's clearly retarded but why isn't she under arrest?

[Parkbandit]

The NAACP was all ready to give him a lifetime achievement award, which they don't often do for white folk. I'm assuming they had some pretty good reasons for it.

They certainly did....

http://www.cchschargers.com/uploads/3/8/6/2/3862975/3114988_orig.gif

[Velfi]

How cumbersome. No.

That leaves us at an impasse then. I would argue that "so much for free speech" is easily translated by an average person to mean "free speech is being abridged/infringed/attacked/somehow lessened", which is not applicable because the government is not at all involved in this situation with citizens and corporations voicing their opinions.

Your definition or understanding of that phrase is not available and/or comprehensible, and only argument is that I am illiterate. Carry on.

[Parkbandit]

his black girlfriend sure does

You honestly believe she cares if he likes black people or not?

LOL.

I bet you think she's with him because she loves him too.....

[SHAFT]

Don't both parties have to know a recording is happening in that state? He's clearly retarded but why isn't she under arrest?

She claims she has over 100 hours of tapes at Donald Sterlings request. He asked to be recorded because he forgets things, and the tapes help him remember.

Who knows if this is true, but this was a reason given.

[SHAFT]

You honestly believe she cares if he likes black people or not?

LOL.

I bet you think she's with him because she loves him too.....

Correct. This is all about money. Every aspect of it. Free speech is great until it affects the bottom line.

[Parkbandit]

Don't both parties have to know a recording is happening in that state? He's clearly retarded but why isn't she under arrest?

Is it a criminal offense to record someone without their permission, even if they don't use that information? She's claiming she never released that tape to any news organization.

[Thondalar]

Seriously? It's ok for the owner of an NBA franchise, which is an African-American driven league, to come out and say things that are perceived as negative towards African-Americans?

The NBA is a business. If you do anything that affects business, you're fucked. He can be racist or homophobic or whatever in the privacy of his own home when he no longer owns an NBA franchise. No one will care then.

I think this was recorded in the privacy of his own home.

Also...African-American driven league...hrmm. You know what? You're right. There is a disheartening lack of people lacking color in the NBA. I can't believe you would support such a publicly blatant racist organization, but come down so harshly on an owner who made comments in private.

[AnticorRifling]

Is it a criminal offense to record someone without their permission, even if they don't use that information? She's claiming she never released that tape to any news organization.

Depends on the state I'd imagine.

[Parkbandit]

She claims she has over 100 hours of tapes at Donald Sterlings request. He asked to be recorded because he forgets things, and the tapes help him remember.

Who knows if this is true, but this was a reason given.

He's what, mid 80's? I imagine he will just come out and claim Alzheimers or Dementia made him say those things.. that he really doesn't believe it.

[Tgo01]

She claims she has over 100 hours of tapes at Donald Sterlings request. He asked to be recorded because he forgets things, and the tapes help him remember.

I can see it now.

"Hey honey, can you pull out that tape from a few nights ago? I forgot which color people I don't like showing up at my basketball games."


Is it a criminal offense to record someone without their permission, even if they don't use that information?

Pretty sure it is.

At least that's how the California law sounds.

[SHAFT]

I think this was recorded in the privacy of his own home.

Also...African-American driven league...hrmm. You know what? You're right. There is a disheartening lack of people lacking color in the NBA. I can't believe you would support such a publicly blatant racist organization, but come down so harshly on an owner who made comments in private.

The NHL is a Caucasian-driven league. Hell, one could argue that MLB is a Hispanic-driven league. It is what it is. The PGA is also a Caucasian-driven league.

I watch these sports because when I watch the games, the color of the skin of the contestants never enters my mind.

You cannot be perceived as a racist towards African-Americans when you own an NBA franchise. Perception is reality in that case.

[Latrinsorm]

He was sued by Elgin Baylor hardly anonymous. He was as big a star as Magic in his day. And signing to play for him or coach his team is as much support as anything else, only a fool could think otherwise.Sterling won that suit, the one he lost was the DOJ one for his apartment buildings. Since you bring it up, though:

Chris Paul, Danny Granger, Glen Davis, JJ Redick - traded
Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan - drafted
Jamal Crawford, Matt Barnes, Darren Collison, and Hedo Turkoglu are the only rotation guys who signed to play for him, and Hedo Turkoglu isn't even alive.
Why isn't this guy allowed to dislike black people?Until someone asks you to sign a petition for his arrest, nobody has said a word about who he's allowed to dislike.
Can we prove that his "racism" is affecting his duties as owner?Click the article I linked in another post. It's been two days and the Clippers are already hemorrhaging sponsors.

[SHAFT]

He's what, mid 80's? I imagine he will just come out and claim Alzheimers or Dementia made him say those things.. that he really doesn't believe it.

It's a good defense for him. He should go that route.

If the NBA doesn't take the team away from him, pressure needs to be put on him by the other owners to sell. Sterling will sell the team. He bought the team for 15m, it's time to cash out around for around 700-800m.

[cwolff]

I can't see why anyone, no matter how obliquely, is coming to the defense of this guy. His rights are not being infringed and he faces no criminal. He has upset his little billionaire boys club and he's going to pay for it.

[AnticorRifling]

I can't see why anyone, no matter how obliquely, is coming to the defense of this guy. His rights are not being infringed and he faces no criminal. He has upset his little billionaire boys club and he's going to pay for it.

Yup. The color in question here is green. You mess with the green you're screwed.

[Latrinsorm]

Don't both parties have to know a recording is happening in that state? He's clearly retarded but why isn't she under arrest?In the statement Sterling issued in his defense, he never claimed that he was unaware of the recording. He also doesn't claim that the tape is inauthentic, only that it might be, which if you think about it is a really bizarre move.

[cwolff]

Yup. The color in question here is green. You mess with the green you're screwed.

You know it's serious when Mark Cuban gives a "No Comment" interview.

[SHAFT]

In the statement Sterling issued in his defense, he never claimed that he was unaware of the recording. He also doesn't claim that the tape is inauthentic, only that it might be, which if you think about it is a really bizarre move.

I actually believe that Sterling wanted things recorded. I also believe that he doesn't see anything wrong with his slave-master mentality. That's the way of the world to him.

[Laviticas]

It has been interesting how this story has shined a light on all the cockroaches. From the racist owner to the NAACP selling "I'm not a racist" awards. Should be fun to watch where this all goes.

[Tgo01]

Did anyone here actually listen to the recording? Is there more than one recording out there?


stop associating with blacks or bring black people to Clipper games.

I never heard him say this in the recording I listened to. In fact he doesn't even say anything bad about black people, he doesn't even tell her to stop associating with black people, he does tell her to not "broadcast" the fact that she hangs out with black people. He says he wouldn't even mind if she broadcasted the fact that she hangs out with Latin people. I guess he has this thing where since she's perceived to be white or Latin that she should only show the world that she hangs out with whites or Latins.

I'm not saying he's right and it's an ignorant and stupid thing to say, but all the stories I've heard have this guy saying he said he hates black people, he doesn't want her to hang out with black people and he doesn't want her to bring black people to his games.

Also I don't have another recording of this chick to go by but she sounds so fake in that recording. I don't know if she purposefully got into this argument because she wanted to record him or dubbed it or what but she totally sounds like she's acting. But maybe she's just a ditz and always sounds like that. As I said I don't know, I've never heard her on anything but this.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

Did anyone here actually listen to the recording? Is there more than one recording out there?



I never heard him say this in the recording I listened to. In fact he doesn't even say anything bad about black people, he doesn't even tell her to stop associating with black people, he does tell her to not "broadcast" the fact that she hangs out with black people. He says he wouldn't even mind if she broadcasted the fact that she hangs out with Latin people. I guess he has this thing where since she's perceived to be white or Latin that she should only show the world that she hangs out with whites or Latins.

I'm not saying he's right and it's an ignorant and stupid thing to say, but all the stories I've heard have this guy saying he said he hates black people, he doesn't want her to hang out with black people and he doesn't want her to bring black people to his games.

Also I don't have another recording of this chick to go by but she sounds so fake in that recording. I don't know if she purposefully got into this argument because she wanted to record him or dubbed it or what but she totally sounds like she's acting. But maybe she's just a ditz and always sounds like that. As I said I don't know, I've never heard her on anything but this.

There is over 100 hours of it. We've been given edited snippets.

[Tgo01]

Did anyone here actually listen to the recording? Is there more than one recording out there?



I never heard him say this in the recording I listened to. In fact he doesn't even say anything bad about black people, he doesn't even tell her to stop associating with black people, he does tell her to not "broadcast" the fact that she hangs out with black people. He says he wouldn't even mind if she broadcasted the fact that she hangs out with Latin people. I guess he has this thing where since she's perceived to be white or Latin that she should only show the world that she hangs out with whites or Latins.

I'm not saying he's right and it's an ignorant and stupid thing to say, but all the stories I've heard have this guy saying he said he hates black people, he doesn't want her to hang out with black people and he doesn't want her to bring black people to his games.

Also I don't have another recording of this chick to go by but she sounds so fake in that recording. I don't know if she purposefully got into this argument because she wanted to record him or dubbed it or what but she totally sounds like she's acting. But maybe she's just a ditz and always sounds like that. As I said I don't know, I've never heard her on anything but this.

Never mind. Apparently I wasn't listening to the "extended" version. He does indeed say don't bring black people to my games.

[cwolff]

Never mind. Apparently I wasn't listening to the "extended" version. He does indeed say don't bring black people to my games.

I just listened to the 9+ minute clip. I can't believe he's dissing Magic Fucking Johnson! Like who wouldn't put a pic with him on their instagram. HAHA

It sounds like his big problem is that he's so worried about what his friends think. Strange to hear a billionaire sound like such a whiny little twat.

Link to audio (http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_25644156/listen-alleged-recording-los-angeles-clippers-owner-david)

[Wrathbringer]

I can't see why anyone, no matter how obliquely, is coming to the defense of this guy. His rights are not being infringed and he faces no criminal. He has upset his little billionaire boys club and he's going to pay for it.

"Boys" club, huh? Wow, that was racist. Good thing I got it on tape, as it were. I'm offended.

[Parkbandit]

It has been interesting how this story has shined a light on all the cockroaches. From the racist owner to the NAACP selling "I'm not a racist" awards. Should be fun to watch where this all goes.

He will be forced to sell the team and that will be the end of it. The NAACP won't get any real bad publicity. They've been doing this for decades and people still believe it's a good organization that cares about the "Advancement of Colored People".

Suckers.

[AnticorRifling]

So if he's not doing well with his wife did he have the GF leak the tapes so that there would be an uproar and opportunity for a quick sale so she wouldn't get the team?

[Tgo01]

His comments are worse than the Holocaust!

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

His comments are worse than the Holocaust!

Clearly he's the worst thing to happen to us since 9/11

[cwolff]

Clearly he's the worst thing to happen to us since 9/11

I have a brown ribbon on my car because I support the WoS.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

http://i.imgur.com/Ddqov35.jpg

[Wrathbringer]

http://i.imgur.com/Ddqov35.jpg

I snickered. Like a man. A black man.

[SHAFT]

"Boys" club, huh? Wow, that was racist. Good thing I got it on tape, as it were. I'm offended.

You have an avatar of clint Eastwood smoking. My grandfather died of lung cancer. I'm offended.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

6430

[cwolff]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6430&d=1398729251

FSB propaganda. Don't fall for it. Look how they spelled Basketball. Stupid Russians.

[Tgo01]

6430

Well to be fair Putin is like a black belt in every form of martial arts. This Sterling dude is in his 80s. I would feel more comfortable getting into a fight with the latter as well.

[Wrathbringer]

You have an avatar of clint Eastwood smoking. My grandfather died of lung cancer. I'm offended.

You should be. I did it on purpose.

[SHAFT]

You should be. I did it on purpose.

This post offends me.

[Atlanteax]

They certainly did....

http://www.cchschargers.com/uploads/3/8/6/2/3862975/3114988_orig.gif

Funny how people do not understand that leadership of unions function the same way.

[Ker_Thwap]

I don't get the outrage. Sterling has been a scumbag from day one. He's a litigious old guy who clawed his way over others to make his fortune. He was raised a certain way in a different era, and hasn't figured out what he learned as a child was wrong. He did learn to keep his hatred private, for the most part. Because he was rich, the NBA, the NAACP, his employees, coaches and players chose to ignore what they already knew and took his dirty money.

Now that he trusted the wrong person, who exposed his hatred in a very public manner, everyone is scrambling to disassociate themselves from him. Yeah, racism is bad, but so is hypocrisy.

The next big outrage will be when they "discover" the murdering Russian mobster who owns the Nets is still a murdering mobster.

[Atlanteax]

Apparently it *is* in the bylaws that Silver can force Sterling can give up the team.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/10852199/challenge-donald-sterling


Q: What penalties can Silver issue?
A: Under the provisions of the bylaws, Silver has two sets of powers that he may use. Under either, he can issue a lifetime suspension and a substantial fine. Under Paragraph 24(l) of the constitution that was adopted by the NBA owners on Oct. 26, 2005, he can issue a fine of up to $2.5 million, can suspend an owner indefinitely and can order the forfeiture of draft picks.


Q: Is it possible for Silver and the NBA to terminate Sterling's franchise ownership?
A: Yes. Under the terms of Paragraph 13 of the constitution, the owners can terminate another owner's franchise with a vote of three-fourths of the NBA Board of Governors, which is composed of all 30 owners. The power to terminate is limited to things like gambling and fraud in the application for ownership, but it also includes a provision for termination when an owner "fails to fulfill" a "contractual obligation" in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its members adversely." Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.

[Jace Solo]

The timing of everything is suspect to me.
Also, they live in Hollywood. How hard would it be to find an actor that would do the voice over for $100?
You could get out of a cab and step on a guy that would do it for a $100 that sounds just like the dude.

All I'm saying is, until it's proven to be him, everyone is jumping the gun.

Let's examine the known facts:
GF has a lot of money riding on the lawsuit with the Sterlings.
Clippers have a legit shot at winning a title.
The NAACP is about to give Sterling a Lifetime Achievement award.
Dude has a history of prejudice.
Girlfriend told his wife that she was going to make the Sterlings pay for suing her.
Tape released at just the right time to garner the most attention.
A tape that could be real OR could be a forgery.
The voices on the tape do not sound real OR conversational (she asks him specific racial charged questions and never once has anything else to say about it but more racially charged questions.)

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the timing is SO convenient.
Also, as someone that is around "the industry", it reeks of bad acting. Very staged and very unintelligently done.

[SHAFT]

Lawyers have authenticated the voice. It is Sterling.

[Keller]

$5m fine. Suspended indefinitely.

[SHAFT]

$5m fine. Suspended indefinitely.

ESPN is saying banned for life and 2.5m.

[Back]

Great move by the NBA.

[Jace Solo]

I'm glad that the NBA didn't make a hasty decision without getting the facts in order. Dude deserves the fine and ban.

[Allereli]

$5m fine. Suspended indefinitely.

2.5 mil

[SHAFT]

Now I'm curious what he will fetch for the team in a sale. I'm sure there will be multiple groups who are interested and the price will be juicy. Not too often does an opportunity like this arise.

[Keller]

ESPN is saying banned for life and 2.5m.

I was going off of NBC's tweet.

[Tgo01]

The PC should buy the team.

[Keller]

In any case - awesome first move from Silver.

[Parkbandit]

The fine is piddly for this guy.

So he's "banned for life". What does that even mean? He can't manage the business?

[Back]

It may not effect him much financially but it is a huge statement by the rest of the NBA. The ref tossed him out.

[Keller]

The fine is piddly for this guy.

So he's "banned for life". What does that even mean? He can't manage the business?

$2.5M is the max fine the NBA can levy. Silver expects the owners to force Sterling to sell the team. So he is banned for life until he is forced to sell. He'll still make millions of dollars.

[cwolff]

It may not effect him much financially but it is a huge statement by the rest of the NBA. The ref tossed him out.

It's the max fine max suspension. Now they'll try to force him to sell and Sterling (based on his past) will probably lawyer up and fight this as hard as he can. Legally, this will be an interesting thing to watch unfold. I can't believe that he'll just walk away. He's an old guy. Maybe the stress will kill him.

It's ironic that he didn't want her to show photos of herself with black people because of what his friends would say. Now he's the USA's #1 pariah. I bet those friends are distancing themselves from him as much as possible.

[Ker_Thwap]

From ESPN

"Sterling is immediately barred from attending any NBA games or practices, be present at any Clippers office or facility, or participate in any business or player personnel decisions involving the team. He also cannot participate in any league business going forward."

Not sure how they're going to enforce the office part. The guy's a billionaire with other business interests, I'd be surprised if he has a Clippers office that's separate from his Slumlord office.

[Gibreficul]

Why is anybody surprised that an 80 year old white billionaire has racist views? I'm not justifying it, not at all... but I'm not surprised. He was born and raised in a time when racism was the norm. A leopard doesn't change its spots.

I'm personally more appalled at Larry Johnson's public suggestion for an all black basketball league. That is just as racist, if not more than spewing racial slurs in what can be assumed were supposed to be private conversations that got recorded and leaked to the public. Larry Johnson's suggestion would regress us back to the 1940s, just prior to when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in MLB.

Larry Johnson should be put up on the same racist pig platform as Donald Sterling, mostly for being an ignorant fuck with what he suggested. But Larry Johnson is black, so it's OK for him to be racist against non-blacks... right? That is the problem... the double standard. It's OK for blacks to hate whites, but not the opposite. Fuck that... let the rich racist fuck have his trophy asset. He'll be dead in what, 10-15 years anyway. Who cares?

[Back]

This thread just went from 10 to 100.

[Latrinsorm]

Never mind. Apparently I wasn't listening to the "extended" version. He does indeed say don't bring black people to my games.Imagine how difficult it would have been to establish that without surveillance. :)
This thread just went from 10 to 100.I was wondering how to respond to that post, but this is all that needs to be said, really.

[Velfi]

When is White History Month going to be put on the calendar? That's what I want to know.

[SHAFT]

Why is anybody surprised that an 80 year old white billionaire has racist views? I'm not justifying it, not at all... but I'm not surprised. He was born and raised in a time when racism was the norm. A leopard doesn't change its spots.

I'm not surprised that Donald Sterling felt that way. I am surprised that as a business owner, who's worth over 2 billion, he's foolish enough to allow a woman like that into his inner circle. He was played.

[Latrinsorm]

Also (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10857580/donald-sterling-los-angeles-clippers-owner-receives-life-ban-nba):

"The woman on the recording cooperated with the NBA, as did a third person who was in the room when the tape was made, a source told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne. The woman verified to the league that it was her and Sterling on the tapes, according to the source."

Not just one person, who he knew was recording him, but two! Arrogance or stupidity? Yikes.

[Ker_Thwap]

It's a good day to be an attorney in L.A.

[Johnny Five]

Clearly his racism has stopped him from employing any black people I would assume...

[cwolff]

Clearly his racism has stopped him from employing any black people I would assume...

http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1359166629958441808.jpg

[Keller]

Clearly his racism has stopped him from employing any black people I would assume...

Chris Paul? Blake Griffin? Glen Davis? The blackest person on the Clippers may be JJ Redick.

[Johnny Five]

http://www.nba.com/clippers/roster/2013
Mighty white roster if you ask me.

[Ker_Thwap]

The Celtics hold the Clipper's 2015 first round pick. Is it wrong for me to be pleased with the Clipper chaos as a sports fan?

[Ker_Thwap]

http://www.nba.com/clippers/roster/2013
Mighty white roster if you ask me.

Had you looked at the transcript between him and the woman leading him down the garden path, she made a comment about employing black people. His reply:

"I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them? Do I know that I have—Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners, that created the league?"

The guy likes his money, he's had no problem making his money from being a divorce/personal injury attorney, and real estate/slumlording. He sees nothing wrong with exploiting people of any race to make money.

[Keller]

http://www.nba.com/clippers/roster/2013
Mighty white roster if you ask me.

Deandre Jordan, Jamal Crawford, Matt Barnes, and JJ Redick are the only black people on that roster.

[Latrinsorm]

And DeAndre was drafted. Off of a slave ship? I don't know if he was or wasn't, I'm just asking the question... and they are the only professional team named after boats...

[Ardwen]

If he's banned for life and has to sell the team exactly why would he pay the fine? He's an ambulance chaser, this will be in court til he's dead I am sure.

[Latrinsorm]

If he's banned for life and has to sell the team exactly why would he pay the fine? He's an ambulance chaser, this will be in court til he's dead I am sure.He's contractually obligated to. You can still get in trouble for breach of contract if the breaches occurred before the contract's termination, right? That's a non-rhetorical question.

[Parkbandit]

If he's banned for life and has to sell the team exactly why would he pay the fine? He's an ambulance chaser, this will be in court til he's dead I am sure.

I doubt they could "force" him to sell his own property because of something he said. I think the NBA did what they had to do and all that they could do.

[Allereli]

I doubt they could "force" him to sell his own property because of something he said. I think the NBA did what they had to do and all that they could do.

I think they said in the press conference it would require a 75% vote of the Board of Governors

[Parkbandit]

I think they said in the press conference it would require a 75% vote of the Board of Governors

NBA: Ok, we voted, sell your team.
Racist: Ok, once I get an offer I like, I will!
NBA: DAMN YOU!

I think it's going to be more difficult to force him out than they think.

[Allereli]

I think it's going to be more difficult to force him out than they think.

I think you underestimate the NBA's concern with image.

[cwolff]

I think they said in the press conference it would require a 75% vote of the Board of Governors

Looks like that was correct.


The Membership of a Member or the interest of any Owner may be terminated by a vote of three fourths (3/4) of the Board of Governors if the Member or Owner shall do or suffer any of the following:

(a) Willfully violate any of the provisions of the Constitution and By-Laws, resolutions, or agreements of the Association.

NBA constitution and By-Laws (http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/NBA-Constitution-and-By-Laws.pdf).

He'll probably try to hang it up in court but he's forfeited the right to litigation and this will go to arbitration. He'll probably fight that too, and he's got more money than he needs to make this a huge mess, though I doubt he can win.

I wonder how long it will take the NBA to vote him out.

[Parkbandit]

I think you underestimate the NBA's concern with image.

Not at all. I think this is very important for them to get him out as fast as they possibly can.

I just don't think it's going to be as easy as people think it is. He doesn't seem to be the type to be gracious and apologetic and will probably make this as difficult as possible for the NBA to get him out.

[Back]

NBA constitution and By-Laws (http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/NBA-Constitution-and-By-Laws.pdf).

Awesome.

[Back]

Not at all. I think this is very important for them to get him out as fast as they possibly can.

I just don't think it's going to be as easy as people think it is. He doesn't seem to be the type to be gracious and apologetic and will probably make this as difficult as possible for the NBA to get him out.

That may be but I think the NBA wins anyway.

[kutter]

I think the only way the NBA gets a win out of this is if they get someone to make him an offer he cannot refuse for the team, barring that, the little that I have read about him suggest he will fight this thing to the end of time out of spite and he may not be wrong. Apparently, and I do not even claim to play at being a lawyer, there are a lot of anti-trust issues with trying to force him out, at least, that was what the few articles I skimmed over today were saying.

Seems like it would be a lot smarter to just get a group together to make an offer he cannot refuse, he is after all a businessman, but I doubt they will do that since the NBA's perception is that the hold the moral high ground. Not sure I agree though, since he does have some expectation of privacy in his own home and he still is protected by the 1st amendment. Why is it some people only say the 1st amendment is so sacrosanct until it is not something they agree with?

[Back]

I think the only way the NBA gets a win out of this is if they get someone to make him an offer he cannot refuse for the team, barring that, the little that I have read about him suggest he will fight this thing to the end of time out of spite and he may not be wrong. Apparently, and I do not even claim to play at being a lawyer, there are a lot of anti-trust issues with trying to force him out, at least, that was what the few articles I skimmed over today were saying.

Seems like it would be a lot smarter to just get a group together to make an offer he cannot refuse, he is after all a businessman, but I doubt they will do that since the NBA's perception is that the hold the moral high ground. Not sure I agree though, since he does have some expectation of privacy in his own home and he still is protected by the 1st amendment. Why is it some people only say the 1st amendment is so sacrosanct until it is not something they agree with?

Check out the NBA constitution link provided in this thread. It is a private organization. It's members have to adhere to the association's policies.

[cwolff]

I think the only way the NBA gets a win out of this is if they get someone to make him an offer he cannot refuse for the team, barring that, the little that I have read about him suggest he will fight this thing to the end of time out of spite and he may not be wrong. Apparently, and I do not even claim to play at being a lawyer, there are a lot of anti-trust issues with trying to force him out, at least, that was what the few articles I skimmed over today were saying.

Seems like it would be a lot smarter to just get a group together to make an offer he cannot refuse, he is after all a businessman, but I doubt they will do that since the NBA's perception is that the hold the moral high ground. Not sure I agree though, since he does have some expectation of privacy in his own home and he still is protected by the 1st amendment. Why is it some people only say the 1st amendment is so sacrosanct until it is not something they agree with?

This has absolutely nothing to do with 1st amendment issues. He has no expectation to privacy if he agrees to be taped which he apparently did. He also admitted to the commissioner that it was him on the tape.

[cwolff]

V. Stiviano's gone into hiding.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1771744.1398709580!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/article-sterling-0428.jpg

[Tgo01]

This has absolutely nothing to do with 1st amendment issues. He has no expectation to privacy if he agrees to be taped which he apparently did. He also admitted to the commissioner that it was him on the tape.

The only thing about this I heard is that Sterling supposedly wanted to be recorded because he apparently sometimes forgets what he says, also this chick was supposedly his archivist.

So you think you lose your right to privacy if you want to be recorded for your own personal use?

[cwolff]

The only thing about this I heard is that Sterling supposedly wanted to be recorded because he apparently sometimes forgets what he says, also this chick was supposed his archivist.

So you think you lose your right to privacy if you want to be recorded for your own personal use?

Is privacy a protected right?

[SHAFT]

Looks like he'll fight it out.

http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/04/29/donald-sterling-selling-clippers-nba-lifetime-suspension-adam-silver

[cwolff]

Looks like he'll fight it out.

http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/04/29/donald-sterling-selling-clippers-nba-lifetime-suspension-adam-silver

This is going to be awesome.

[Tgo01]

Is privacy a protected right?

Is this supposed to be a trick question because the constitution doesn't specifically mention a right to privacy?

[Allereli]

V. Stiviano's gone into hiding.

she joined Daft Punk

[cwolff]

Is this supposed to be a trick question because the constitution doesn't specifically mention a right to privacy?

No it's not a trick. Legally, I don't know if he has a right to privacy. There are wiretapping laws which apparently weren't broken. He's also a public figure and I think that courts have said there is a different standard or expectation to privacy issues when one is a public figure.

[kutter]

Check out the NBA constitution link provided in this thread. It is a private organization. It's members have to adhere to the association's policies.

I know, I read a little about that, but apparently some legal experts are saying that anti-trust laws will trump that, like I said, I have no idea, it is way out of my realm.

[kutter]

This has absolutely nothing to do with 1st amendment issues. He has no expectation to privacy if he agrees to be taped which he apparently did. He also admitted to the commissioner that it was him on the tape.

I was not aware that he agreed to be taped, still not sure she could legally use it though, I guess that depends in the state it took place in? No idea there really. As far as 1st amendment, how is it not, is he no longer entitled to free speech just because he is an asshole that owns a basketball team?

[Tgo01]

Legally, I don't know if he has a right to privacy.

Why wouldn't he?


There are wiretapping laws which apparently weren't broken.

I wouldn't necessarily say they weren't broken. If I tell someone I consent to being recorded for my own personal use then it stands to reason the other person is not free to share that recording with the world.


He's also a public figure and I think that courts have said there is a different standard or expectation to privacy issues when one is a public figure.

Yes but that does not include private conversations in a private home.

[cwolff]

I know, I read a little about that, but apparently some legal experts are saying that anti-trust laws will trump that, like I said, I have no idea, it is way out of my realm.

This could be HUGE. There's long been a debate about how these sports team interact with anti-trust laws. I also don't understand the hows or whys of Pro Sports and anti-trust but if you're right there could be massive repercussions for all pro sports.

[Back]

I know, I read a little about that, but apparently some legal experts are saying that anti-trust laws will trump that, like I said, I have no idea, it is way out of my realm.

Well, neither do I, but I am thinking of it like company policy and employment. If an employ breaks an agreed upon company policy the company has the right to terminate the employee.

Our company policy is that if anyone shows any sign of racism, amongst other things like being on drugs, stealing, etc, they forfeit their employment with us. End of story.

[cwolff]

Why wouldn't he?

I wouldn't necessarily say they weren't broken. If I tell someone I consent to being recorded for my own personal use then it stands to reason the other person is not free to share that recording with the world.

Yes but that does not include private conversations in a private home.

I don't know if there is a legal right to privacy. The conversations may have been private but she may have rights to the tapes also.


(CNN) -- Massachusetts' highest court ruled Wednesday that it is not illegal to secretly photograph underneath a person's clothing -- a practice known as "upskirting" -- prompting one prosecutor to call for a revision of state law.

You'd think people would have a right to not have pictures taken of their crotch, but in MA they didn't. This is because they were out in public. Maybe they had a right that if they're in a private club or home you can't surreptitiously snap pics of their panties.

Where are our PC 1L's? We need some details on this.

[Latrinsorm]

I was not aware that he agreed to be taped, still not sure she could legally use it though, I guess that depends in the state it took place in? No idea there really. As far as 1st amendment, how is it not, is he no longer entitled to free speech just because he is an asshole that owns a basketball team?He is absolutely entitled to free speech in the sense that the government can't prosecute him, but Adam Silver is neither a member of the government nor prosecuting him.

[Jarvan]

Looks like that was correct.



NBA constitution and By-Laws (http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/NBA-Constitution-and-By-Laws.pdf).

He'll probably try to hang it up in court but he's forfeited the right to litigation and this will go to arbitration. He'll probably fight that too, and he's got more money than he needs to make this a huge mess, though I doubt he can win.

I wonder how long it will take the NBA to vote him out.

Where in the By-laws does it say a person can't be a bigot in his personal life?


He is absolutely entitled to free speech in the sense that the government can't prosecute him, but Adam Silver is neither a member of the government nor prosecuting him.

This is true. There are VERY few things a person can say that will result in criminal actions against them. Time and time again SCOTUS has sided with the 1st amendment. BUT. People that use such speech do tend to find themselves subject to private organizations.

Look at what happened with Imus. He was perfectly able to express his views, and the government didn't do anything to him. He was fired though. And that was perfectly legal.

[Latrinsorm]

Where in the By-laws does it say a person can't be a bigot in his personal life?Article 13A:


The Membership of a Member or the interest of any Owner
may be terminated by a vote of three fourths (3/4) of the Board of
Governors if the Member or Owner shall do or suffer any of the
following:

(a) Willfully violate any of the provisions of the
Constitution and By-Laws, resolutions, or agreements of the
Association.


Article 24L:


The Commissioner shall, wherever there is a rule for
which no penalty is specifically fixed for violation thereof, have the
authority to fix such penalty as in the Commissioner’s judgment shall
be in the best interests of the Association. Where a situation arises
which is not covered in the Constitution and By-Laws, the
Commissioner shall have the authority to make such decision,
including the imposition of a penalty, as in his judgment shall be in the
best interests of the Association. The penalty that may be assessed
under the preceding two sentences may include, without limitation, a
fine, suspension, and/or the forfeiture or assignment of draft choices.
No monetary penalty fixed under this provision shall exceed
$2,500,000.


Hence the $2.5m fine.

[Jarvan]

Article 13A:


The Membership of a Member or the interest of any Owner
may be terminated by a vote of three fourths (3/4) of the Board of
Governors if the Member or Owner shall do or suffer any of the
following:

(a) Willfully violate any of the provisions of the
Constitution and By-Laws, resolutions, or agreements of the
Association.


Article 24L:


The Commissioner shall, wherever there is a rule for
which no penalty is specifically fixed for violation thereof, have the
authority to fix such penalty as in the Commissioner’s judgment shall
be in the best interests of the Association. Where a situation arises
which is not covered in the Constitution and By-Laws, the
Commissioner shall have the authority to make such decision,
including the imposition of a penalty, as in his judgment shall be in the
best interests of the Association. The penalty that may be assessed
under the preceding two sentences may include, without limitation, a
fine, suspension, and/or the forfeiture or assignment of draft choices.
No monetary penalty fixed under this provision shall exceed
$2,500,000.


Hence the $2.5m fine.

Yes, but it doesn't say that they can force him to sell.

Now.. I do know that if the NBA itself suffers monetary loss due to this, they can force him to sell under that, but so far I don't think it has.

Sad thing is.. if he does sell, he will actually make a huge freakin profit. Go Figure.

[cwolff]

Article 13 covers the reasons they can terminate his ownership.

http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/NBA-Constitution-and-By-Laws.pdf

[Jarvan]

Article 13 covers the reasons they can terminate his ownership.

http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/NBA-Constitution-and-By-Laws.pdf

Yeah, technically he didn't violate a rule. The commissioner decided he violated a rule that doesn't exist, and fined him.

Kinda like if the Mayor of a city had the power to decide if something is a crime after the fact.

[cwolff]

Yeah, technically he didn't violate a rule. The commissioner decided he violated a rule that doesn't exist, and fined him.

Kinda like if the Mayor of a city had the power to decide if something is a crime after the fact.

It not kind of like that at all. It is kind of like if you're a leader in a CHE and you do something to embarrass the CHE and cause them enough problems that they kick you out.

Criminality is a very different thing than voluntarily being part of an organization. Hell, he's an owner. That constitution is his. Even if he didn't write it himself he's agreed to the rules.

[Jarvan]

It not kind of like that at all. It is kind of like if you're a leader in a CHE and you do something to embarrass the CHE and cause them enough problems that they kick you out.

Criminality is a very different thing than voluntarily being part of an organization. Hell, he's an owner. That constitution is his. Even if he didn't write it himself he's agreed to the rules.

I understand, But I can understand how some people can consider this a slippery slope.

Granted, this guy is a bigot and prob shouldn't own a team. But then what happens if someone that the other owners don't like buy the team. Or another team. You can find something about anyone that could be considered embarrassing to the NBA.

"Embarrassing to the NBA" isn't in the by-laws either. Maybe they need to add an article.. "We can kick an owner for any reason at any time".

[Back]

I understand, But I can understand how some people can consider this a slippery slope.

Granted, this guy is a bigot and prob shouldn't own a team. But then what happens if someone that the other owners don't like buy the team. Or another team. You can find something about anyone that could be considered embarrassing to the NBA.

"Embarrassing to the NBA" isn't in the by-laws either. Maybe they need to add an article.. "We can kick an owner for any reason at any time".

Thats for the NBA to decide. I doubt this will lead to kicking out an owner who likes to eat his own boogers or some other lesser infraction that you are imagining. If and when the NBA comes to that hurdle that will be theirs to jump.

[cwolff]

My question now is who will buy the team. I've heard that the wife owns at least some of the team. I wonder what their pre-nup looks like. Since CA is a community property state she might have first right of refusal to a degree. Magic Johnson wants to buy the Clippers and he's backed by a couple hundred billion dollars AND the NBA owes him a favor for bailing out the L.A. Sparks. There are a bunch of billionaires working on proposals right now I bet.

[Ker_Thwap]

Is this supposed to be a trick question because the constitution doesn't specifically mention a right to privacy?

Penumbra, blah blah blah.

[Ker_Thwap]

I think he'll go with the "the NBA has known forever that I've been a racist, they've already tacitly approved of such behavior by their failure to take action previously" routine.

[cwolff]

I think he'll go with the "the NBA has known forever that I've been a racist, they've already tacitly approved of such behavior by their failure to take action previously" routine.

That's actually a pretty good defense to losing the team. They have a laundry list of quotes from him to support that this is nothing new. He probably doesn't get a say in picking the arbitrator though and that person's decision will be final. He may be able to sue to have a new arbitrator or some other technicality there. I'm not sure he can sue to overturn the findings.

[Jarvan]

My question now is who will buy the team. I've heard that the wife owns at least some of the team. I wonder what their pre-nup looks like. Since CA is a community property state she might have first right of refusal to a degree. Magic Johnson wants to buy the Clippers and he's backed by a couple hundred billion dollars AND the NBA owes him a favor for bailing out the L.A. Sparks. There are a bunch of billionaires working on proposals right now I bet.

Magic said he doesn't want to buy it. There are a couple other people looking to buy tho. Also, I doubt Magic is backed by "a couple hundred billion dollars". Couple hundred million, sure.


I think he'll go with the "the NBA has known forever that I've been a racist, they've already tacitly approved of such behavior by their failure to take action previously" routine.

The NAACP has known for at leas a decade that he is a racist. They still gave him a lifetime achievement award.

[Jarvan]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/04/28/in-wake-of-sterling-fiasco-ex-knicks-great-larry-johnson-appears-to-call-for-all-black-league/

Here is a racist in the other direction as far as I am concerned.

[cwolff]

Magic said he doesn't want to buy it. There are a couple other people looking to buy tho. Also, I doubt Magic is backed by "a couple hundred billion dollars". Couple hundred million, sure.

His "group" is worth like 200 billion. They bought the dodgers, the Sparks and tried to buy the Lakers. They're attempting to make this huge S. California Sport conglomerate. I don't know who they all are or how they account for the 200B. David Geffen is also interested in buying. Sterlings going to make a ton of money on this deal. He bought it for 12.5 million in '81.


Sterling will be reviled forever, but he has to understand clearing the way for Magic Johnson and the $200 billion-plus group backing him could be a decent farewell punctuating a most indecent ownership tenure.

[Ker_Thwap]

Magic said he doesn't want to buy it. There are a couple other people looking to buy tho. Also, I doubt Magic is backed by "a couple hundred billion dollars". Couple hundred million, sure.



The NCAA has known for at leas a decade that he is a racist. They still gave him a lifetime achievement award.

The NAACP spokesman looked a bit silly while he was explaining how they were returning his contributions and rescinding his award. Yeah, I wanted to type NCAA too.

[Jarvan]

The NAACP spokesman looked a bit silly while he was explaining how they were returning his contributions and rescinding his award. Yeah, I wanted to type NCAA too.

Yeah.. been a long day.

[SHAFT]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/04/28/in-wake-of-sterling-fiasco-ex-knicks-great-larry-johnson-appears-to-call-for-all-black-league/

Here is a racist in the other direction as far as I am concerned.

Larry Johnson is a nobody. He doesn't own a franchise in the nba. If he owned an nhl franchise and said something negative about whites, you'd probably have an uproar.

[leifastagsweed]

Pwned. (http://www.policymic.com/articles/88611/if-you-re-mad-at-donald-sterling-you-ll-love-what-the-nba-just-did-to-him?utm_source=policymicFB&utm_medium=main&utm_campaign=social)

[Jarvan]

Larry Johnson is a nobody. He doesn't own a franchise in the nba. If he owned an nhl franchise and said something negative about whites, you'd probably have an uproar.

Well of course you won't have an uproar. Black people can't be racist against whites. Haven't you heard?

[Tgo01]

I wonder if Shaq is next? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/shaquille-oneal-bullies-jahmel-binion_n_5233441.html)

He's part owner of the Kings right? Time to ban his ass!

[Back]

Larry Johnson is a nobody. He doesn't own a franchise in the nba. If he owned an nhl franchise and said something negative about whites, you'd probably have an uproar.

Someone could say that is a racist comment. Just like some white guy saying they wanted an all white team. But in both instances, I would not be offended, and I would also say they were both very poorly thought out ideas.

The take away from all of this is that the NBA is a private organization and they did the right thing both financially and morally.

I take issue that it is what the NBA "had to do" because they didn't "have to do" anything. How many times have we seen systematic racism just swept under the rug over and over? No, Silver, newly established, had time, and came to the conclusion that his fellow associates said was the right action, at the right time, for the good of the NBA and everything the NBA encompasses.

[Vorpos]

Someone could say that is a racist comment. Just like some white guy saying they wanted an all white team. But in both instances, I would not be offended, and I would also say they were both very poorly thought out ideas.

The take away from all of this is that the NBA is a private organization and they did the right thing both financially and morally.

I take issue that it is what the NBA "had to do" because they didn't "have to do" anything. How many times have we seen systematic racism just swept under the rug over and over? No, Silver, newly established, had time, and came to the conclusion that his fellow associates said was the right action, at the right time, for the good of the NBA and everything the NBA encompasses.

The morally right thing to do would be to stop taking money from all these rich white devils. The basketball players should just quit. Obama could use his Silicon Valley connections to get them all hired as computer programmers.

[Latrinsorm]

Yeah, technically he didn't violate a rule. The commissioner decided he violated a rule that doesn't exist, and fined him.

Kinda like if the Mayor of a city had the power to decide if something is a crime after the fact.The commissioner explicitly has the power to do that. "Where a situation arises which is not covered in the Constitution and By-Laws, the Commissioner shall have the authority to make such decision, including the imposition of a penalty, as in his judgment shall be in the best interests of the Association." Think of it as the NBA's HMC policy.
I understand, But I can understand how some people can consider this a slippery slope.The by-laws haven't changed in any way; there's no slope, no change. The commissioner has always been able to do this.

[Ardwen]

Until Phil Jackson was hired by the Knicks Larry Johnson was an employee of theirs and this is very relevant to this discussion, as is the Shaq issue, not becasuse he owns a team but because he works for a broadcaster, if one person is being banned for what are clearly racist statements, then they all should be. Assuming Sterling doesnt want to sell, theres good odds there will be litigation over this til he's dead, in the long run its going to wind up a very ugly fight for the NBA, ousting an owner for this opens lots of cans of worms, such as the Russian Mobster they allowed to buy the Nets.

[cwolff]

Until Phil Jackson was hired by the Knicks Larry Johnson was an employee of theirs and this is very relevant to this discussion, as is the Shaq issue, not becasuse he owns a team but because he works for a broadcaster, if one person is being banned for what are clearly racist statements, then they all should be. Assuming Sterling doesnt want to sell, theres good odds there will be litigation over this til he's dead, in the long run its going to wind up a very ugly fight for the NBA, ousting an owner for this opens lots of cans of worms, such as the Russian Mobster they allowed to buy the Nets.

Is this because of the All-black league or something else?

[Ardwen]

Johnson was the one with the segregated leagues thing yes, Shaq decided that mocking the disabled on instagram was a good idea, though he did apologize for his idiocy.

[cwolff]

Johnson was the one with the segregated leagues thing yes, Shaq decided that mocking the disabled on instagram was a good idea, though he did apologize for his idiocy.

Larry Johnson made his statements publicly. I bet he even put forth some reasons for his idea. You may not like what he said but it is one perspective that's aired in the open for debate.

Shaq's deal was repugnant. That's true. He's an idiot for posting that. He did do it publicly also, and was immediately excoriated by his 500,000 twitter followers. He wasn't sneaking around being nice to cripples while telling his girfriend not to be seen with those freaks.

Tg, we already know that you are almost incapable of dealing with things that are not black and white. The way you are harping on Shaq is the kind of behavior that I think of when I call you a racist. You're trying so fucking hard to draw a comparison here and I can't help but notice that you want to contrast a black owner with a white owner. If you really want to understand these situations the Marge Schott fiasco(s) are probably more apt a comparison to Sterling.

[Ardwen]

So segregated NBA is okay, and segregated busing is bad? There is no possible valid definition for Johnson's statements, and no reasonable defense.

[Tgo01]

This is actually a pretty good interview:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/bomani-jones-donald-sterling_n_5233565.html

The first 3 minutes is just bullshit stupid shit but the serious discussion starts at around 3:30.

The guy touches on what I was trying to say earlier in that Sterling doesn't really say anything discriminatory against blacks. He doesn't! He even said Magic Johnson is someone who should be admired. Sterling's problem in the entire recording was that he didn't want his girlfriend associating with black people. He didn't say he didn't like black people, in fact at one point he even seemed offended that his girlfriend thought he felt that way. He didn't say he didn't want black people at his games and he didn't even say he didn't want Magic Johnson at his game. He said he didn't want his girlfriend hanging out with black people because of the way his friends were perceiving it. Ignorant? Yes. Stupid? Yes. Overt racism in the sense that he hates black people and thinks they are beneath white people? No.

In the interview the guy also talks about Ardwen's point has been this whole time. The guy has a record of actual racism, what's worse of housing discrimination that fucked with people's lives. Where was the outrage then? This wasn't ancient history, the settlement was in 2009. But now everyone is getting up in arms over this because it's something easy to interject yourself into to make yourself look good. "Remember that Sterling fiasco? Yeah! I was totally against what he said!" Everyone in the NBA and the sponsors can now pat themselves on the back because they showed that 80 year old man that he has no right to tell his girlfriend the kind of people he wants her hanging out with.

[cwolff]

So segregated NBA is okay, and segregated busing is bad? There is no possible valid definition for Johnson's statements, and no reasonable defense.

Mountains and mole hills. The AARP rushes to the defense of their community and The Asian Amreican Chamber of Commerce promotes Asian American owned businesses. Johnson's not even an owner, he's an employee. He still might lose his job over this. That's his right to speak up and the team's right to let him go. It's not comparable and the whitey's that keep trying to draw these comparisons to in some way justify the actions of tribe members is a disgrace.

[cwolff]

This is actually a pretty good interview:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/bomani-jones-donald-sterling_n_5233565.html

The first 3 minutes is just bullshit stupid shit but the serious discussion starts at around 3:30.

The guy touches on what I was trying to say earlier in that Sterling doesn't really say anything discriminatory against blacks. He doesn't! He even said Magic Johnson is someone who should be admired. Sterling's problem in the entire recording was that he didn't want his girlfriend associating with black people. He didn't say he didn't like black people, in fact at one point he even seemed offended that his girlfriend thought he felt that way. He didn't say he didn't want black people at his games and he didn't even say he didn't want Magic Johnson at his game. He said he didn't want his girlfriend hanging out with black people because of the way his friends were perceiving it. Ignorant? Yes. Stupid? Yes. Overt racism in the sense that he hates black people and thinks they are beneath white people? No.

In the interview the guy also talks about Ardwen's point has been this whole time. The guy has a record of actual racism, what's worse of housing discrimination that fucked with people's lives. Where was the outrage then? This wasn't ancient history, the settlement was in 2009. But now everyone is getting up in arms over this because it's something easy to interject yourself into to make yourself look good. "Remember that Sterling fiasco? Yeah! I was totally against what he said!" Everyone in the NBA and the sponsors can now pat themselves on the back because they showed that 80 year old man that he has no right to tell his girlfriend the kind of people he wants her hanging out with.

So what? Fuck him.

[Tgo01]

So what? Fuck him.

By whatever means necessary, am I right?!

You posted less than 4 minutes after I did, proving yet again that you don't even bother watching/listening to interviews people link to before rushing to post something that doesn't further the discussion at all.

[Ardwen]

I am starting to think you just don't get it, tgo's post explains it pretty well.

[cwolff]

By whatever means necessary, am I right?!

Now you're advocating criminality to remove him from his ownership. You're alone in that.

[cwolff]

I am starting to think you just don't get it, tgo's post explains it pretty well.

Explains what? The worst part is that this guy's an 80 year old billionaire who can't stand up to his friends and tell them to mind their own business. He's afraid of getting made fun of. He's not losing his temper and shouting the N-word in the heat of the moment. He's enforcing personal policy. He even excuses this by saying that's just the way things are, he's helpless to change it. Never mind that he's a billionaire owner of an NBA team who could create a lot of change if he wanted to. He's acting like he's the victim. The whole thing's disgusting.

[Tgo01]

Explains what? The worst part is that this guy's an 80 year old billionaire who can't stand up to his friends and tell them to mind their own business. He's afraid of getting made fun of. He's not losing his temper and shouting the N-word in the heat of the moment. He's enforcing personal policy. He even excuses this by saying that's just the way things are, he's helpless to change it. Never mind that he's a billionaire owner of an NBA team who could create a lot of change if he wanted to. He's acting like he's the victim. The whole thing's disgusting.

You really should listen to the interview I linked earlier.

It's times like this where I tend to tell liberals that I think I'm more liberal than they are. I agree with just about everything the guy in that interview is saying and he talks about racism and how it affects people and I'm agreeing with him.

I'm also agreeing with him on this fake outrage over what Sterling said in what was supposed to be a private conversation between him and his girlfriend/mistress about the kinds of people he wanted her to hang out with. Liberals tend to go for the low hanging fruit in this type of thing. Let's call out Sterling for his shit, let's call out Bundy for his shit, let's call out Mitt Romney for his 48% comment.

But when it comes to the real issues, of people dying everyday and struggling to provide for their families because of the way racism has shaped many parts of this country well then they just don't seem to give a fuck. As long as it's happening over there where no one bothers to report about it then who cares? As long as they don't have to face it on a day to day basis. But this Sterling thing is national news! I better score me some liberal points by flambéing this 80 year old man because he dared to have a conversation with his girlfriend about who she hangs out with!

Spare me your holier than thou bullshit, cwolff.

[Tgo01]

The Shaq thing furthers the point I was trying to make in my previous post. Shaq is getting no where near the attention this is. Why is that? Because Shaq is black? No. Because it doesn't further an agenda. Disabled people as a whole aren't usually seen as a voting bloc because disabilities can affect anyone; rich, poor, young, old, black, white, Latrinsorm. So let's just go after those demographics instead.

If the NBA gave a fuck about how it's players or owners made the NBA as a whole look they would be doing a hell of a lot more than they are now. I read a story earlier today about how a player kicked another player in the head and was suspended for a whole one game. Where is the lifetime ban? Where is Shaq's ban?

Oh right, no agenda can be furthered from that. Everyone can rest easy tonight knowing they made the world better by eradicating racism from the NBA. Except they didn't because Sterling still owns the team. But they made an effort!


Tg, we already know that you are almost incapable of dealing with things that are not black and white. The way you are harping on Shaq is the kind of behavior that I think of when I call you a racist. You're trying so fucking hard to draw a comparison here and I can't help but notice that you want to contrast a black owner with a white owner. If you really want to understand these situations the Marge Schott fiasco(s) are probably more apt a comparison to Sterling.

Holy shit, how did I miss this gem earlier? So you feel I'm picking on Shaq because he's black and not because of what he did? And you call me racist? That is just too fucking funny dude. Let's just ignore Shaq's behavior because only racists would call out what a black person did. Do you even hear yourself when you type up this shit?

Come on cwolff, stop pussy footing around your vague positions like you always do. Just go on and explain how what Shaq did is so different and doesn't require the same amount of outrage and condemnation that Sterling did?

[Jarvan]

Mountains and mole hills. The AARP rushes to the defense of their community and The Asian Amreican Chamber of Commerce promotes Asian American owned businesses. Johnson's not even an owner, he's an employee. He still might lose his job over this. That's his right to speak up and the team's right to let him go. It's not comparable and the whitey's that keep trying to draw these comparisons to in some way justify the actions of tribe members is a disgrace.

You really aren't right in the head, are you?

It doesn't matter if person A is an owner, a janitor, or a player. Or if person B is The president, congressman, or garbage collector. Both of the comments are racist. The fact that you can't see that is sad.

But... Johnson is Black, so of course you (and your people -the insane lefties-) will defend him.

[cwolff]

Oh now the big O is interested. She's working with Geffen and Larry Ellison. Who knew that racism could pay so well. Sterling's got buyers lining up.

[Latrinsorm]

Oh now the big O is interested. She's working with Geffen and Larry Ellison. Who knew that racism could pay so well. Sterling's got buyers lining up.I thought you were disparaging Oscar Robertson for a second there, and we were going to have to open the distance.

[Ker_Thwap]

I thought you were disparaging Oscar Robertson for a second there, and we were going to have to open the distance.

I was also wondering when Oscar became a she.

[Gibreficul]

Did anybody else hear what I heard on Sports Talk Radio late night/early morning today? (The DA Show, CBS Sports talk radio.) If not... it's that Donald Sterling apparently has advanced (stage 4) prostate cancer and his doctors expected him to die 2 years ago... That said... my original estimation of... 10-15 years left on this planet was probably way over-estimating his expiration date.

[Allereli]

she's on 20/20 right now

[cwolff]

she's on 20/20 right now

Is she wearing her welding helmet?

[Back]

Did anybody else hear what I heard on Sports Talk Radio late night/early morning today? (The DA Show, CBS Sports talk radio.) If not... it's that Donald Sterling apparently has advanced (stage 4) prostate cancer and his doctors expected him to die 2 years ago... That said... my original estimation of... 10-15 years left on this planet was probably way over-estimating his expiration date.

Sure. The PC also has you posting this...


Why is anybody surprised that an 80 year old white billionaire has racist views? I'm not justifying it, not at all... but I'm not surprised. He was born and raised in a time when racism was the norm. A leopard doesn't change its spots.

I'm personally more appalled at Larry Johnson's public suggestion for an all black basketball league. That is just as racist, if not more than spewing racial slurs in what can be assumed were supposed to be private conversations that got recorded and leaked to the public. Larry Johnson's suggestion would regress us back to the 1940s, just prior to when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in MLB.

Larry Johnson should be put up on the same racist pig platform as Donald Sterling, mostly for being an ignorant fuck with what he suggested. But Larry Johnson is black, so it's OK for him to be racist against non-blacks... right? That is the problem... the double standard. It's OK for blacks to hate whites, but not the opposite. Fuck that... let the rich racist fuck have his trophy asset. He'll be dead in what, 10-15 years anyway. Who cares?

[Tgo01]

Sure. The PC also has you posting this...

I think Back thinks he just posted a "Gotcha!" moment but I think he's the only one who thinks this.

[Back]

I think Back thinks he just posted a "Gotcha!" moment but I think he's the only one who thinks this.

The people who have not responded to my previous post say you are insane. It's ok. It's a disease. Diseases are curable with the correct program.

[cwolff]

Sterling apologized so I think he'll be ok now.

"I'm not a racist, I made a terrible, terrible mistake. And I'm here with you today to apologize and to ask for forgiveness for all the people that I've hurt," [Sterling] said.

To Magic Johnson:
"Well, what kind of a guy goes to every city, has sex with every girl, then he catches HIV? Is that someone we want to respect and tell our kids about?" Sterling asked. "I think he should be ashamed of himself. I think he should go into the background. But what does he do for the black people? He doesn't do anything."

And To African Americans:
"That's one problem I have. Jews when they get successful they will help their people and some of the African-Americans -- maybe I'll get in trouble again -- they don't want to help anybody," he said.

[Atlanteax]

He kinda has a point about Magic...

[waywardgs]

Everyone seems to be recording you now. Do you have anyone you can trust that you talk to now?

Yeah, I talk to magic, but let me tell you why he sucks.

What a lunatic.

(Paraphrasing the convo but that's about how it went.)

[Back]

http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/23/donald-sterling-shelly-sterling-clippers-sale-adam-silver-nba/

Donald Sterling Surrenders Control of Clippers ... to Shelly (http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/23/donald-sterling-shelly-sterling-clippers-sale-adam-silver-nba/)


Donald Sterling is no longer the controlling owner of the Los Angeles Clippers ... TMZ Sports has learned he just surrendered control to his estranged wife, Shelly Sterling, and she is now secretly negotiating with the NBA to sell the team ... ON HER TERMS.

Sources close to the Clippers organization tell us ... Donald made the decision because he saw the handwriting on the wall -- as long as he remained in control, the NBA would order an involuntary sale of the team.

Our sources say Shelly and her lawyer, Pierce O'Donnell, have been secretly meeting with NBA Commissioner Adam Silver and NBA lawyers to "resolve the dispute amicably." We're told Shelly realizes the NBA wants the team sold, but she has significantly more leverage and credibility with the league than Donald. Her end game is simple -- she won't object to the sale, but SHE wants to call the shots.

Our Sterling sources say Shelly is prepared to sue the NBA and she will file legal docs on Tuesday if the NBA orders an INVOLUNTARY sale. She's down with a sale but only a voluntary one that puts her in control.

Attorney Pierce O'Donnell would not comment on this story, but did say, "Shelly Sterling's preference has always been to find a way to resolve this dispute amicably with the NBA in a mutually satisfactory manner."

[Tgo01]

I think this is further proof that the guy has some sort of mental health issue going on. One minute he's all about fighting this to the bitter end and the next minute he's giving complete control to his estranged wife?

[cwolff]

I think this is further proof that the guy has some sort of mental health issue going on. One minute he's all about fighting this to the bitter end and the next minute he's giving complete control to his estranged wife?

Agreed. This guy sounds like he's losing his mind.

[Latrinsorm]

If it's an involuntary sale, the sale price goes down (motivated seller to the extreme). He doesn't get any less of a share of the profits, he just isn't in control anymore.

[Back]

Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer wins Clippers bidding war for $2 billion

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sn-clippers-sale-ballmer-20140529-story.html


Forrmer Microsoft chief executive Steve Ballmer has won a frenetic bidding war for ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers, with a $2-billion offer that would set a record price for an NBA team.


Ballmer bid higher than competitors that included Los Angeles-based investors Tony Ressler and Bruce Karsh and a group that included David Geffen and executives from the Guggenheim Group, the Chicago-based owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

The Geffen group offered $1.6 billion and the Ressler-Karsh group $1.2 billion. People familiar with both those offers said they were rejected.

Ballmer and Clippers co-owner Shelly Sterling concluded a deal late Thursday afternoon. But Bobby Samini, an attorney for Donald Sterling, said as he left the team co-owner's home: "There's been no sale. There can be no sale without Donald's signature."

[Warriorbird]

Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer wins Clippers bidding war for $2 billion

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sn-clippers-sale-ballmer-20140529-story.html



Baaaaaallllmerin!

He should change their name to the Developers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE

[waywardgs]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/clippers/2014/05/30/donald-sterling-mental-health-shelly-los-angeles-sale-steve-ballmer/9754549/

Ruled "mentally unfit."

I kinda feel like enough is enough with this fuckin guy. It's getting pretty witch-hunty and Orwellian.

[AnticorRifling]

I guess having someone from Microsoft buying the team makes sense when they're looking for a reboot.

[cwolff]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/clippers/2014/05/30/donald-sterling-mental-health-shelly-los-angeles-sale-steve-ballmer/9754549/

Ruled "mentally unfit."

I kinda feel like enough is enough with this fuckin guy. It's getting pretty witch-hunty and Orwellian.

Wow, this is happening much faster than I expected.


I guess having someone from Microsoft buying the team makes sense when they're looking for a reboot.

Are you saying they should change their name to Ctrl+Alt+Del?

[Tgo01]

I kinda feel like enough is enough with this fuckin guy. It's getting pretty witch-hunty and Orwellian.

He was recently voted "most hated man in America", (http://nba.si.com/2014/05/29/donald-sterling-most-hated-man-in-america-poll-clippers/?eref=sihp&icid=maing-grid7|responsive|dl19|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D482054) beating the likes of a thief like Bernard Madoff and a murderer like OJ Simpson and the worst human being to ever walk on this planet, Justin Bieber.

[Parkbandit]

He should just take the money and run.

[Taernath]

Are you saying they should change their name to Ctrl+Alt+Del?

The Cliparts

[Jarvan]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/clippers/2014/05/30/donald-sterling-mental-health-shelly-los-angeles-sale-steve-ballmer/9754549/

Ruled "mentally unfit."

I kinda feel like enough is enough with this fuckin guy. It's getting pretty witch-hunty and Orwellian.

Somehow I this "mentally unfit" is fucking bogus. He was mentally fit to run them 2 months ago.. but suddenly is mentally unfit?

I wonder how much those "experts" were paid.


Wow, this is happening much faster than I expected.

That's cause either he gave up and wanted to save "face", tho being mentally unsound doesn't sound good to me, or he was fucked out of it by his ex and a bunch of lying dr's.


Are you saying they should change their name to Ctrl+Alt+Del?


Please don't ruin the comic...

[Allereli]

The Cliparts

The Clippies

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/024/035/Cliproll20110724-22047-1q8ub4x.GIF

[Keller]

I guess having someone from Microsoft buying the team makes sense when they're looking for a reboot.

Fucking NAILED it.

[cwolff]

The Clippies

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/024/035/Cliproll20110724-22047-1q8ub4x.GIF

They should go with the Zune'rs. It'd be appropriate for the perennial losers.

[waywardgs]

Whatever the case is, 2b is an insane price. The valuations of every other nba team just jumped. NBA is doing jumping jacks over this.

[Latrinsorm]

Somehow I this "mentally unfit" is fucking bogus. He was mentally fit to run them 2 months ago.. but suddenly is mentally unfit?

I wonder how much those "experts" were paid.Owners aren't necessarily involved in running the team, certainly not on a day-to-day basis. That's the purpose of positions like general manager, CEO, VP of basketball operations, etc.
NBA is doing jumping jacks over this.I saw someone else use this turn of phrase on Twitter; jumping jacks aren't really a sign of elation, are they? Isn't the expression "doing cartwheels"?

[Tgo01]

jumping jacks aren't really a sign of elation, are they?

http://cloud.graphicleftovers.com/23142/1255150/jumping-jack.jpg

Looks elated to me.

Heck I'd be elated if I could do a jumping jack, but that's just because I'm really out of shape :(

[Latrinsorm]

The motion lines indicate he's making an I rather than A shape. Objection sustained, with prejudice.

[waywardgs]

Owners aren't necessarily involved in running the team, certainly not on a day-to-day basis. That's the purpose of positions like general manager, CEO, VP of basketball operations, etc.I saw someone else use this turn of phrase on Twitter; jumping jacks aren't really a sign of elation, are they? Isn't the expression "doing cartwheels"?

You follow me on twitter?

[Latrinsorm]

You should know... MISTER LOWE!!!!!

No, I would know if you were him. Don't ask me how.

[SHAFT]

Somehow I this "mentally unfit" is fucking bogus. He was mentally fit to run them 2 months ago.. but suddenly is mentally unfit?

I wonder how much those "experts" were paid.



That's cause either he gave up and wanted to save "face", tho being mentally unsound doesn't sound good to me, or he was fucked out of it by his ex and a bunch of lying dr's.




Please don't ruin the comic...

He has Alzheimer's. Does that qualify? Maybe your tin foil hat is a little too tight.

[Tgo01]

Looks like Sterling is playing the NBA. (http://www.aol.com/article/2014/06/09/attorney-donald-sterling-clippers-sale/20909522/?icid=maing-grid7|responsive|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D486274)


LOS ANGELES (AP) -- An attorney for Donald Sterling says the Los Angeles Clippers owner has pulled his support from a deal to sell the team to former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and will pursue his $1 billion federal lawsuit against the NBA.

Attorney Maxwell Blecher says Monday that Sterling "instructed (us) to prosecute the lawsuit" and the deal's off.

The $2 billion sale was negotiated by wife Shelly Sterling after Donald Sterling's racist remarks to a girlfriend were publicized and the NBA moved to oust him as owner. The lawsuit alleges the league violated his constitutional rights, antitrust laws and committed breach of contract.

Donald Sterling agreed to ink the deal and drop the suit last week, but then decided against it after learning the NBA won't revoke its lifetime ban and fine.

Either that or he really is just upset about the lifetime ban not being revoked.

[Latrinsorm]

If your mental competence is in question you probably aren't helping yourself with wild, public swings in decision making.

Donald Sterling looks odd here, too.

[Androidpk]

If your mental competence is in question you probably aren't helping yourself with wild, public swings in decision making.

Donald Sterling looks odd here, too.

I do believe Latrino just made a funny.

[Tgo01]

If your mental competence is in question you probably aren't helping yourself with wild, public swings in decision making.

Donald Sterling looks odd here, too.

Hey! Are you and I going to have words?

[SHAFT]

Brett Favre is obviously providing Donald sterling with counsel.

[waywardgs]

If I were an octogenarian billionaire racist asshole crackpot I'd have as much fun with my last years as possible too.

Liking this guy more and more.

[Warriorbird]

jumping jacks aren't really a sign of elation, are they?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQSGw0hMd_I

[Atlanteax]

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11075968/donald-sterling-hires-4-private-investigation-firms-dig-nba


LOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling's team of lawyers has hired four private investigation firms to dig up "dirt" on the NBA's former and current commissioners and its 29 other owners, a source confirmed to ESPN.com.

The move was earlier reported by The Associated Press, citing a person familiar with Sterling's legal strategy.

Investigators were given a six-figure budget over the next 30 days to examine the league's finances, allegations of previous discriminatory conduct, and compensation to past commissioner David Stern and current commissioner Adam Silver, said the AP source, who spoke Thursday night on condition of anonymity. The person wasn't authorized to talk publicly.

The person said the investigators also are looking into whether other owners made any off-color jokes, or racist or sexist remarks.

"The gloves are off, as they say," the person said. "Have them dig up all the dirt they can find.

This is gonna get *GOOD* ... /popcorn

[Johnny Five]

Reverse Banhammer?

[Allereli]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2190181-bruce-levenson-to-sell-atlanta-hawks-latest-details-comments-and-reaction

[Warriorbird]

Clutch "make self able to sell team" strategy.

[Androidpk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ru8DMW-grY

[Allereli]

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/blake-griffin-the-boss/

[Atlanteax]

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/blake-griffin-the-boss/

Sterling is queer.

[Parkbandit]

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/blake-griffin-the-boss/

DONALD STERLING HAS WHITE PARTIES!!!

WHITE FUCKING PARTIES!!!

[Vorpos]

If I were an octogenarian billionaire racist asshole crackpot I'd have as much fun with my last years as possible too.

Liking this guy more and more.

That racist asshole has created more jobs for blacks than Obama. What's not to like.

[Atlanteax]

DONALD STERLING HAS WHITE PARTIES!!!

WHITE FUCKING PARTIES!!!

That he is dressed in all black for...

[Parkbandit]

That he is dressed in all black for...

Maybe he is trying to see what it's like?