Using House Prename Titles without the Postname Title

[Gemstones]

Over the last couple of years, there's been quite a bit of shuffling of House leadership. And with that came the creation or renaming of officer titles, such as Mistress, Dame, Warden, and even Marshal. These titles can be used as pre-name titles, and the corresponding post-name title is "the Officer of House ABC." So in game, you see things like "Marshal XYZ just arrived." I've noticed, however, that many of these people don't use the corresponding post-name title identifying them as an officer of the house that granted them the pre-name title. I find this a tad disrespectful to the house they represent and am even inclined to question their motives for becoming an officer (to get a cool, unique prename title as if they earned it in a special quest or RP event). Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else feel this way?

[Gemstones]

A couple people took offense and made it known via rep comments. I can only assume that they're among the culprits.

[Gemstones]

I started to reply, but it boils down to, yes. You are the only one that feels this way, and you are a moron. ~Gwene

Some rep commenters disagree with you.

[Gweneivia]

I still find you to be pretty moronic, but that was a commentary on most of your posts here, not necessarily limited to this one.

While as an officer I am to some extent always a representative of my house (hence me using the pre-name title at all, which until now I had not used, though I have access to several), unless I am acting in an official capacity at that moment I don't feel I need to have the post title on all the time.

I'm sure other people agree with you. It sounds like some other people agree with me. Does it really matter either way?

[Gemstones]

I still find you to be pretty moronic, but that was a commentary on most of your posts here, not necessarily limited to this one.

While as an officer I am to some extent always a representative of my house (hence me using the pre-name title at all, which until now I had not used, though I have access to several), unless I am acting in an official capacity at that moment I don't feel I need to have the post title on all the time.

I'm sure other people agree with you. It sounds like some other people agree with me. Does it really matter either way?

For the record, my post was not directed at you. I understand you took offense to my questioning the motivation for using a house pre-name title without the post-name title, but it's a valid questioning nonetheless. If you don't feel the need to always use your house post-name title, then why do you feel the need to always use your house pre-name title? After all, the pre-name title is just as much a house title as the post-name title. Unless, of course, you're attempting to use your house pre-name title to portray yourself as something you're not.

[Candor]

There are people on this board who have exceptionally strong opinions and do not seem to be able to understand that other people might have different opinions. They will call you the biggest idiot in the world in their rep comments (and occasionally in a post), tell you that you are the only one with your opinion, and state that you need to cancel your account here for being such a moron. All because you posted something they really don't like. They are immature children who need to be ignored as much as possible.

[Whirlin]

Titles are not just from the CHE, but can also be granted by MHOs as well. I'm not sure if MHOs get post-name options, and I think it's actually a matter of years before some of their higher-ups even get prenames.

If people are unaware that I'm the warden of House Paupers, that's kind of on them. I post quite a bit about the house, help out where I can, etc. As officers, we actually have an obligation to put ourselves out there for our members, and there are guidelines by GMs on playtime, availability, etc.

Additionally, given the amount of prenames and post-names out there, I always find it best practice, if you're unsure of a title, to check that character's PROFILE. CHE and MHO information is located there, and can tell you about exactly where they're getting their title from.

Personally, I have a few selections of post-name titles that I'd like to wear around:

Fahar dyu Kontiquaela (or something like that) was the first custom post-name title granted after an invasion back in like, 2003. Only two halflings received the titles, the non-halflings received a Ta'Fahar dyu Kontiquaela title instead. No idea who the other halfling was and where he/she is now!

I'm also a Wizard Guild Master, and Master Alchemist. Which, if you've ever needed guild promotions, is an important one to wear around.

I'm also an Archer, and likely have some archery-skill related title I can wear around proudly, because there's very few capped ranged wizards around (because... other builds are better post-cap...)

And I'm an Officer of House Paupers.



So, I wear my pre-name to Paupers, wear my post-name to my unique one, and I show my class in my profile. If I'm needed for anything related to any of those things, I can be searched out and found. Sorry that I'm not exclusively showing my House affiliation across all potential title options because I do, and have done, a lot more than JUST house things in the game.

[Gelston]

Over the last couple of years, there's been quite a bit of shuffling of House leadership. And with that came the creation or renaming of officer titles, such as Mistress, Dame, Warden, and even Marshal. These titles can be used as pre-name titles, and the corresponding post-name title is "the Officer of House ABC." So in game, you see things like "Marshal XYZ just arrived." I've noticed, however, that many of these people don't use the corresponding post-name title identifying them as an officer of the house that granted them the pre-name title. I find this a tad disrespectful to the house they represent and am even inclined to question their motives for becoming an officer (to get a cool, unique prename title as if they earned it in a special quest or RP event). Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else feel this way?

I never really gave a shit and it seems petty to point it out.

[Taernath]

They earned the title, they can do whatever they want with it.

[Neovik1]

Technically if a complete stranger arrived in an area you wouldn't know their name or title. Wouldn't that be proper RP?

[rolfard]

I tend to try to remember to use my Che pre-name during events but, as Whirlin pointed out, my post-name may reflect other attributes. My profile certainly would direct any interested party to my affiliation as does parts of my outfit.

The OP does make me wonder if, during cooperative events, there could be confusion which CHE I'm chairman of (or may simply be trolling)

[Nilandia]

I'm not getting into the rest of the debate, but certain prename titles can be obtained outside the CHE system. Dame, Sir and Protector came from storylines dealing with the Empire and Solhaven. Mistress, Maiden, Lady in Waiting, Mister and Master can be obtained with the premium post-name titles by spending points. The various permutations of "Legionnaire" are available to members of the legion in Ta'Vaalor.

Gretchen

[FlayedAngel]

I never really gave a shit and it seems petty to point it out.
Pretty much that.

[Archigeek]

I do think some of the titles really do over-reach and can be confusing. But whatever. If you want to be General or Field Marshall or some of the other ones that are even more odd, go for it.

[Johnny Five]

I do think some of the titles really do over-reach and can be confusing. But whatever. If you want to be General or Field Marshall or some of the other ones that are even more odd, go for it.

And I believe this was somewhat his point. You see Warden XXXX. Warden of what? But that being said I don't care. At least it's not as annoying as those ten page Ta'Vaalor names.

[Gelston]

I want to be an Emperor, I doubt they'd ever have allowed that one past QC though.

[Candor]

I want to be an Emperor, I doubt they'd ever have allowed that one past QC though.

Well they won't permit "King", so I doubt Emperor has any chance.

[waywardgs]

I'm deeply conflicted.

I can't tell which thread I care less about: this one or the gem selling screen scroll thread. Hmm...

[Whirlin]

And I believe this was somewhat his point. You see Warden XXXX. Warden of what? But that being said I don't care. At least it's not as annoying as those ten page Ta'Vaalor names.

Warden of House Paupers, bitch

[Ryjex]

I'm deeply conflicted.

I can't tell which thread I care less about: this one or the gem selling screen scroll thread. Hmm...

The answer is...whichever has the latest post at the moment

[Narthsin]

Oh noes! Titles that are more special than you and encourage AREPEE???

Fuck you Gemstones, fuck you.

[Gemstones]

Oh noes! Titles that are more special than you and encourage AREPEE???

Fuck you Gemstones, fuck you.

Quite the sensitive type, eh?

[Alfster]

Quite the sensitive type, eh?

He's not the one butthurt over the lack of using certain titles.

[Gemstones]

He's not the one butthurt over the lack of using certain titles.

He's butthurt over someone questioning the use of certain titles.

[Jhynnifer]

Oh noes! Titles that are more special than you and encourage AREPEE???

Fuck you Gemstones, fuck you.

Do those titles actually encourage RP? I always assumed they were simply epeen extenders.

[Gemstones]

Do those titles actually encourage RP? I always assumed they were simply epeen extenders.

That's a correct assumption, at least for some of the people that use the titles. I don't know of any instances in which the titles "encouraged RP."

[Jhynnifer]

That's a correct assumption, at least for some of the people that use the titles. I don't know of any instances in which the titles "encouraged RP."

We created the LDI based on the the original group of Landing people who received the "Defender of Wehnimer's Landing" post-name title, but as far as prename titles go I rarely use them (even my house one) and find them fairly distracting. I do like the idea of using them during house events though, that makes more sense to me.

[FlayedAngel]

That's it, I'm sticking with Fur Trader.

[Ardwen]

watch out Riend, we'll stick you with one of the Rone titles, how would you like to be Archmagus of Rone?

[Jhynnifer]

watch out Riend, we'll stick you with one of the Rone titles, how would you like to be Archmagus of Rone?

I'd still never wear it. =)

And wtf... Archmagus? I am holding out for Headmistress so I can don my schoolgirl outfit and walk around the landing with my whip yelling "You've been naughty, naughty children and you need to be punished!"

[Gemstones]

I'd still never wear it. =)

And wtf... Archmagus? I am holding out for Headmistress so I can don my schoolgirl outfit and walk around the landing with my whip yelling "You've been naughty, naughty children and you need to be punished!"

I'd have no questions about using the prename title without the postname in this case.

[FlayedAngel]

I am holding out for Headmistress so I can don my schoolgirl outfit and walk around the landing with my whip yelling "You've been naughty, naughty children and you need to be punished!"
WTB Headmistress Title, PST.

[RagingThrak]

I don't think it's a big deal. As long as you're not portraying yourself as some GM-run character, I don't see any problem with it. I wish I had this option eons ago when I was an officer.

[zzentar]

I don't think it's a big deal. As long as you're not portraying yourself as some GM-run character, I don't see any problem with it. I wish I had this option eons ago when I was an officer.

I just want to say 1st..... GemstonesIV or V

[Thondalar]

I use my House officer prename without the post name, mainly because I paid PP to have the merchant post name, so I'm gonna use it, by God.

I usually switch it to the House post name when running events for the House. Also, anyone can look at my profile and see Bartender of House Paupers, look at my prename title of Bartender and the golden Paupers pin on my lapel, and put two and two together.

[Jhynnifer]

I use my House officer prename without the post name, mainly because I paid PP to have the merchant post name, so I'm gonna use it, by God.

I usually switch it to the House post name when running events for the House. Also, anyone can look at my profile and see Bartender of House Paupers, look at my prename title of Bartender and the golden Paupers pin on my lapel, and put two and two together.


That's an awful lot of work.

I saw Juritar of the Claw or something the other day. It just hurts my head.

[Astru]

I don't usually put up Astru's CHE titles unless I'm running or participating in an event. For a while, I had her wear the prename title, but "Event Coordinator" makes her sound like a party planner and mostly resulted in people being confused (even with the postname title there too).

edit to add: I also suspect that few people become house officers just for the fancy titles. In our house at least, the officers tend to be people who enjoy running events (especially the kind of events that result in mass death).

[Velfi]

That's an awful lot of work.

I saw Juritar of the Claw or something the other day. It just hurts my head.

That would be Jurist of Claw.