Should Nader Step Down?

[Nakiro]

I've heard claims that the Republican admin is trying to limit our rights and freedoms, or that people feel they are endanger of losing them.

But really, shouldn't this be concerning too?

There is a lot of democratic pressure and even some legal movement in Floridia ( I'm not sure how this works, I've just heard about it ) to try and get Nader off the ballot.

The reason is obvious; if he wasn't on there, people who would vote for him would default to Kerry instead.

What do you think? Should Nader step down? Is this type of pressuring from the Democrats fair, right, whatever?

[Telfaahga]

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[longshot]

Go hump your sister, nakiro.

Like you really give a shit.

[Nakiro]

Originally posted by longshot
Go hump your sister, nakiro.

Like you really give a shit.

Thanks for the random flame.

[Telfaahga]

Were getting off the issue here, someone get me the MySQL manual CHOP CHOP!:up:

[Mistomeer]

Apostrophe's need to be trimmed out of SQL...

Also, he shouldn't step down. What's wrong with having more choices?

[Nakiro]

I edited the poll, hopefully it'll work right now.

[Parkbandit]

You make a poll about whether Nader should step down or not.. and you fill it with stupid poll questions?

SHOULD NADER STEP DOWN?:

0 YES
0 NO


What the hell is all the other shit on there?

My opinion? Obviously not. I'm actually for a bigger voice from a third party... too bad that Nader is a self absorbed egomaniac and will always put himself before any party.

I believe the Republicans are too far to the religious side of things for my beliefs and the Democrats are far too liberal for my values.

What this country needs is a moderate party that really does understand the needs and desires of typical Americans. It's too bad that this may never come to fruition.

[Mistomeer]

It is the apostrophes that throw back SQL errors, so change Shouldn't to should not.

Also, the fact that the Dems tried to sue to get Nader off the ballot in Florida just goes to show how full of shit that party is. Liberal, against censorship..sues to try and remove candidtates from the ballot that could hurt them...

[Parkbandit]

I hope Bush uses that point in the debates. Should be fun watching Kerry say that he was against censorship before he was for it.

He has the right to run. Funny how Kerry is such a good candidate that his followers are actually talking about this.

- Arkans

[Latrinsorm]

If everyone voted, I could see where the Democrats are coming from. Instead of wasting time trying to get rid of Nader, the Dems should be reaching the apathetic voters. The same thing goes for the Republicans in general, but they're not pissing and moaning about third party candidates.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
If everyone voted, I could see where the Democrats are coming from. Instead of wasting time trying to get rid of Nader, the Dems should be reaching the apathetic voters. The same thing goes for the Republicans in general, but they're not pissing and moaning about third party candidates.

To be perfectly honest.. if Nader was alligned more towards Republican and he was "stealing" votes from them.. they would be pissing and moaning just as much as the Democrats are now.

Pissing and moaning isn't reserved for one party... although I believe the Republicans should be talking about how this makes the Democrats look horrible.

[Back]

Maybe the ' needs an \ after it. '\

Anyway, Nader has a right to run, though you have to wonder about why. Its obvious he isn’t going to win. Why join a race you know without a doubt you won’t win? I understand the idea of making the best effort you can, which is self gratifying, but compared to the imporatnce of the presidency, it seems a little egotistical.

[Ilvane]

Well, Nader in running gets the Bush administistration if he is a spoiler. I'm sure that's a lot worse then a Kerry administration for the things Nader stands for.

I don't care if he runs at all, though. Oh, and did you guys hear about the Republicans helping to get Nader on the ballot? heh.

-A

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by IlvaneI don't care if he runs at all, though. Oh, and did you guys hear about the Republicans helping to get Nader on the ballot? heh.

-A

Because we Republicans believe in the system and believe there should be a choice. SEE! REPUBLICANS CAN BE PRO-CHOICE!

:D

Pro-choice is the ONLY reason Republicans are helping Nadar.. the only reason. No way is there any other motive.. no way!!

[Sean]

Originally posted by Backlash
Maybe the ' needs an after it. '

Anyway, Nader has a right to run, though you have to wonder about why. Its obvious he isn’t going to win. Why join a race you know without a doubt you won’t win? I understand the idea of making the best effort you can, which is self gratifying, but compared to the imporatnce of the presidency, it seems a little egotistical.

Because it helps the party? You need a certain % of the votes from a previous election to receieve Government funding for your campaign. Although I'm not so sure why hes running this year in the past it's been a boost for the Green Party sort of like Perot for the Reform Party.

Also..

<<
What this country needs is a moderate party that really does understand the needs and desires of typical Americans. It's too bad that this may never come to fruition.>>

I couldn't agree more, in theory, but I'd argue that you and I both are in someway the typical American and we both have different desires and directions that we'd like to see the country head off in.

[Edited on 9-18-2004 by Tijay]

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Tijay
[quote]Originally posted by Backlash


<<
What this country needs is a moderate party that really does understand the needs and desires of typical Americans. It's too bad that this may never come to fruition.>>

I couldn't agree more, in theory, but I'd argue that you and I both are in someway the typical American and we both have different desires and directions that we'd like to see the country head off in.

[Edited on 9-18-2004 by Tijay]

I think most "typical Americans" want the same things - healthcare, better education, more money, more jobs, good economy, etc.

[Sean]

But we don't all want it the same way. The point was really that there is no "typical" american.

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In addition, as a registered independent who will be voting for Nader, one of my strongest stances for him not stepping down is that in the face of all the opposition he has encountered, since Perot left the ballot, Nader has not been disuaded by petty political reasons for him to step down and has maintained a consistent platform which highlights key issues on a stance towards the Iraqi withdrawal policy that I am in total congruence with.
It would also be a blessing to eradicate the idiocy of bi-partisan primaries.

[xtc]

Nader has every right to run, those Democrats who complaining about him running obviously don't believe in democracy

[Ilvane]

Stanley, what exactly does Nader stand for? I mean, I knew what he stood for when he was a consumer advocate, but what exactly does he bring to the country as president?

-A

I haven't read hiS platform in a few years, but my somewhat daily propaganda keeps me well informed, and the two reasons, like I discussed previously are his attitude toward primaries, in which he would unilaterally make it that every state, county and city would have individuals who could vote in primaries as long as they were registered voters and have this not be dependant upon their political alignment.
The other, more recent addition to his policy is the full withdrawal of troops from Iraq, something that I feel is completely neccesary, no matter how chaotic opposition parties claim this move may be.

But all of this is chalk-talk since he won't be elected anyway :shrug:

[Tsa`ah]

No vote from me. It was a yes or no question but for some reason I'm supposed to answer with a multiple choice selection.

Nader has every right to run no matter what his political affiliations are. Legal maneuverings to remove his name from ballots should be thrown out of the court. It is his right.

Should he step down? No. I would feel more comfortable voting against Bush with Nader on the receiving end than I do Kerry.

I personally think the GOP should have sucked it up and made history by nominating someone other than the incumbent dumb ass. McCain as the candidate would have resulted in a landslide victory for the republican party.

[xShadowMerchantx]

Does Nader have a chance? No

So why is he on the ballot?

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
I personally think the GOP should have sucked it up and made history by nominating someone other than the incumbent dumb ass. McCain as the candidate would have resulted in a landslide victory for the republican party. George H.W. would have personally paratrooped their asses. You don't know scary until you've seen an incontinent airborne.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
No vote from me. It was a yes or no question but for some reason I'm supposed to answer with a multiple choice selection.

Nader has every right to run no matter what his political affiliations are. Legal maneuverings to remove his name from ballots should be thrown out of the court. It is his right.

Should he step down? No. I would feel more comfortable voting against Bush with Nader on the receiving end than I do Kerry.

I personally think the GOP should have sucked it up and made history by nominating someone other than the incumbent dumb ass. McCain as the candidate would have resulted in a landslide victory for the republican party.

LOL..

I thought it was the Democrates that disliked their nominee.. not the Republicans. We're happy for 4 more years, thanks for your concern.

[Tsa`ah]

Either party wants a decisive victory. Bush vs Kerry .... could go either way.

McCain vs Kerry ... Landslide for McCain
Bush vs Someone better than Kerry .... not so close of a race.

Honestly I can't think of a good Dem candidate that would get my vote hands down.

[Latrinsorm]

Uh, Lieberman? [/tasteless]