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Luftstreitkräfte
03-06-2014, 08:12 AM
Hey all,

I am not an expert at Gemstone by any means but I had some quick tips for anyone who won a ticket and feels like they're in a bit over their head. Hope this stuff helps guys. I'm open to any criticism and will make changes based on everyone's feedback, but this is my quick little guide for those that aren't familiar with merchant events. The key thing is, don't waste the slots you win on sub-par items.

Preparing for the event

Don't burn your coins on purchases pre-event unless you're getting project pieces together. You'll want a set of 7x+ fusion armor, a 7x+ perfect weapon, a 7x+ runestaff (preferably fusion) going into any major event. Vanilla weapon pieces are just not acceptable, and in my view, neither are elegant or superior unless you're positive you'll win a forging upgrade spot at some point. If you want Voln or Ithzir spots, make sure your armor project piece has no zests/fusion/scripts of any kind.

There's more advice below, but this is the general set of items I would recommend being prepared with. As for weapon and armor bases, don't be too outside the box if you're looking for profitability. There's a reason certain stuff costs more - it works better.

Read this link, it teaches you everything you need to know about what services go where on an item:

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/The_Charts_of_Clarity

This may also help, it's from GM Finros and has a fairly comprehensive list of item add ons:

http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Hunting%20and%20Combat/Weapon%20and%20Armor%20Discussion/view/160

Have at least 40m coins going into the event to ensure you can get everything you need done and buy a spot or two if you feel like it. If you win padding or weighting, you may need much more to get your nice items worked on. Make sure to work out something with friends so you have a backup coin supply if needed.

Involving your house/clan

Talk to your people. Figure out what they want, and if they're trustworthy and you've dealt with them before, offer to hold onto an item or two in case you win a spot. Negotiate some pricing pre-event. Make sure they're online and available during crunch time. Make sure you have a friend available in case you need to buy some coins, especially during the padding/weighting raffles. Do you want to get stuck failing to upgrade your dream item, and resort to a backup, because you failed to prepare the proper cash flow? Friends don't let friends waste spots!

Selling spots

If you win a spot for anything and wish to sell it, immediately go onto lnet and the AOL chat and post that you're selling. People in the room in-game are going to whisper to you, and their offers are usually lower than what you could get out of it. Tell them to talk to you via lnet or AOL, and tell them you can post their offer as a bid, not a BO, assuming it's meeting your minimum bid. Make sure people are aware the bid does not include the cost of the item service. Ask people to bid outloud if possible. (again, via lnet, AOL, never in-game) Update the bids in BOTH chats with "going once, going twice, etc" so you maximize your potential bidders.

Sometimes private bids raise the ire of the group. Do not ever try to milk people with fake bids, especially when it backfires and your dumb ass is left without a bidder because you won your own auction. Let me repeat, here on the PC or in game, do not ever tempt fate with fake bids. If you do so, I pray that the wrath of the flying spagetti monster, God, Allah, Carl Sagan, or whatever the fuck you believe in, rains down infernally on your worthless soul.

Don't get ripped off by players who know the prices better than you.

Don't make the merchant wait - get the spot sold before it's your turn or use your own item. This bears repeating.. do not make the merchant wait. Not because you can't do it. Because you look like an ass doing it.

Cost for work

Sometimes the merchant will say the item cost outloud, sometimes not. If you're selling a spot, this is also an opportunity to profit - if the item cost 1 million coins to work on, you can say it cost 2 million, or whatever you want. Your spot, your rules. Milk 'em for all they're worth - unless it's a friend. But this can backfire too if the GM announces the price, and some consider it grimy. Try to be sensible. If the spot sold for less than you wanted, really it's okay to get another mil or two out of it within the service cost.

The preferable method: Merchants are a great opportunity to develop a good bond with others at the event. You may win a spot that someone else wanted, and later they may win something you want. Keep that in mind when taking items from people outside the event - they can only benefit you with coins. Securing an ally or two early in an event could mean picking up a key spot later for a good price.

Passing items

It's generally bad form to pass items in front of the merchant. Some of them refuse work if you do it. Assuming it's safe, step outside the main room to pass the items over. Remember, if you have a bunch of coins on you, this process may be a headache. Have a friend handy to hold coins for a moment if possible. Also, you *cannot get the same service on an item*. So if you enchanted your 8x noodle to 9x, it's not going to 10x at the same event.

I am always safe - I keep my project pieces on me. If I MA, I spread them out evenly. Why are they in your locker, the GM asks? NO WIN FOR YOU! Don't risk it.

Zests

Zests are fluff and should be removed from any item you want to have a better script added to. You have some cute zests on your armor piece? Well guess what, because of that fluff it can't take the T4 Voln, as T4 Voln is a script in that same spot. Zests are more hassle than they're worth on project pieces. Personally, I don't want zests unless it's built in like the new fusion zests.

Item limits

GMs tend to fall anywhere on the strictness spectrum. It doesn't hurt to ask, but don't hold up the show. Whenever you win a spot and have an idea what you want, have a backup ready if the 1st item you're using is uber. You never know what they'll accept and refuse. Generally they don't add things to stuff beyond 8x, or if they do, it's costly, but it doesn't hurt to try. Make sure to read the sign on the raffle carefully. Before the raffle draws, the GM will show up in NPC form usually 5-10 minutes before (sometimes earlier if they're doing work) and this is a great chance to get those last minute questions in. Try to be short, sweet, and non-annoying. If they refuse an item, immediately pass the backup item.

For this CCF event, Wyrom stated on the boards they're looking to really make people happy and work with them on their item, so the flexibility at this event will probably be high.

Idling/Camping

Be cautious about being afk in a merchant's shop. Some like Bazzelwyn get pissed off and might bolt ya. If you win a spin and you aren't present, this holds up everyone in the room and it's extremely rude and disrespectful. If you're at the keyboard, the story is much different. It's possible to get general work done if the GM randomly shows up and interacts with you. You may even win a spot. But again, some people just don't want you camping in their spot.

Alts / winning things you don't want

So you won a few tickets. Good for you. Well, try to interact and not be so zombie-like. If there's a raffle for something you don't want, or don't have a great item for, don't enter unless you're going to sell the spot. If it's something you don't want and the spot doesn't sell for much, it's good form to simply avoid entering the raffle. Don't be the guy that says, "derp, I won but I don't need this."

Players with less resources:

Should you not have hundreds of dollars to throw at a text game, I get it. At least come prepared to any major event with a 5x-6x fusion runestaff, or enhancive one without flares. It's not hard to snag a nice 2x-4x enhancive runestaff on the boards for cheap and get it enchanted up. As for armors, 5x or 6x fusion, or maybe those 4x resistance pieces from previous RTCF enchanted up might be good. Just don't waste spots on 4x. For melee, a 5x or 6x perfect is fine for a project piece. Even a superior wouldn't hurt. Network, plan ahead, and handle yourself professionally during the event.

Finding a merchant

So the crier announces a service and you're trying to get there. Follow the pack. Locate (116) or ;lnet locate well known personalities if possible. If the crier says "Cypress Grove" then type ;go2 cypress grove and see what comes up for your options if you're using lich. Keep an eye on lnet or AOL as mostly people post room numbers. But it's better form to be the guy that finds the room first, in case services are room order. Come early, leave late, you never know what they're giving away. If you MA, keep a guy in each key room so you can see what's going on. Keep notes on room numbers and merchant names.

Raffles

Use ;draffle on lich, it's a great script. Type ;draffle table and it will record the timing of the raffle. Show up a minute early. Don't undulate and giggle and keep running in and out. Go into rest mode, keep quiet and pray for the win. Type buy ticket again just in case you forgot to enter. If you're afk when you win a raffle, usually they will spin and your spot is forfeit. Just don't let it happen.

Undead Bane +8 or flares

Put this on something that's impossible to be blessed otherwise. Like a claidh or weighted weapon. Do not put this on a blessable weapon! Also the +8 is probably better than the flares. These spots will be selling for 80m+

Weight Reducing/Epic Deepening

I'd recommend stocking up on VLA enhancive cloaks for this. There's a couple out there, the newest ones from the T5 drops at EG are best (the ones with the ridiculous enhancives, but they're pricy) I got my epic deepening done on a VLA +2 aura +2 wisdom cloak, to give you an idea. Putting this on a vanilla VLA is not recommended, find something better.

X/Day Rune Tattoos, Enhancive Spell Knowledge

Don't get something available with imbeds or commonly sold potions, like 513 or 211. Get something in the Ranger or Paladin circle. Many prefer 606 or 613, but 1606 is also good and helps with fear.

Voln Armor T4 spots

Remember, the item cannot have scripts - no fusion, no zests, no Ithzir, etc. These spots will sell for 50m-100m. Get the T4 on an item with no pre-existing Voln scripts. Remember, it adds phantom padding and such, so I'd recommend the ASG being at least fulls or doubles. Don't put a T4 on a robe.

Padding

Try to pad something with pre-existing padding. Keep in mind, the service cost for this can run very high. These spots typically sell for 30m-50m. I prefer padding on fulls upward, it's probably better to get TD on robes.

Weighting

Don't put weighting on your beloved 5x vanilla bastard sword. Just don't. I would recommend a 7x or 8x perfect weapon for this service. Maybe a 3 slot fusion. Also if your item already has weighting, that may be good to do. Just use something good, otherwise sell the spot. These spots go for at least 25m.

Sighting

Don't get bow sighting, unless you have a nice bow to utilize like a sephwir or a 6x+ fusion. Sighting slots sell for considerably less as they're less in demand. At the last few events sighting was offered for 10 and they didn't even sell 10 tickets.

TD (+10)

Remember, no TD on items with flares/weighting. People generally put these on armors. Use something 6x+. Slots sell for 10m-15m. For example, I have 6x +10 TD robes with 10% resist to fire, lightning, and cold, T2 ensorcell. I plan on adding +10 more TD.

Pick-a-Bane (+12 or flares)

Some banes are much less utilized. Extraplanar, magic, grimbane are more popular than banes like bandit, giant, troll, orc, etc. Get something as universal as possible, I listed them in the most useful order. Hunt the scatter? Consider a lich bane. For fast weapons or weapons with pre-existing flares, get flares. For slow or ambushing weapons, get weighting. I like magical bane, crit weighting personally. It's good to put bane on an item with a pre-existing bane. These spots sell for 15m-20m

Enchant

Do a 4x+ claid if possible, or an uber armor piece. These can get pricy. Remember, the same item can't be enchanted twice at the event. Look at the price of the item you're enchanting at the current enchant compared to if you added one - is the cost worth it? Try to do an item that would cost a ton of premium points to enchant. These spots sell for at least 25m. I personally wouldn't put an enchant spot on a weapon unless I'm taking a 7x+ perfect or 3 slot fusion item higher. But remember, a weapon can get disarmed and it's gone forever.

Defender

Not the most popular service. Pre-existing defender items are best to do. Slots may sell for 5m-10m+

Resistance (+30)

Hugely popular. My favorite service. Do a very uber armor piece, not a shield. If it has pre-existing resists, they probably will not work on it. Doesn't hurt to ask, but do it on the official boards first. This CCF seems like a great opportunity for making something amazing.

If you hunt in OTF, might be good to get 15/15 impact/lightning.

DO NOT GET FIRE ON LEATHER ITEMS!

Fire resist can be added by a ranger (Virilneus can do 95% or something nutty). Wyrom personally recommended impact resist. Puncture is very popular. I would recommend slash resist for the rift. Crush is also good. 15 slash 15 lightning may be a good idea. Personally I don't like splitting resists- I would go full 30% impact, lightning or slash. Spots sell for 20m+

Add flares (Increase potency of mana/acuity, or add rare flares to weapons, armor, and shields)

Use a 7x fusion runestaff if possible, otherwise use a 7x vanilla runestaff. Get acuity. I personally like elemental flares because they'll flare on casts of support/disabler spells where acuity won't help for that - acuity will only help AS/CS. But for resell, acuity is the way to go. These spots sell for 5-10m+

Flares on melee weapons are better on fast weapons because the flare will show up more often, but again I would really recommend doing a runestaff as it's more useful and has better profitability when a flare is added.

As for elemental flares, I prefer disruption or acid, because they hit everything generally. Remember fire/plasma flares will light gas on fire and won't work on fire critters. Cold won't hit cold stuff, etc. Web is nice if you can get it, it's unbalance with a chance to web which is pretty sweet.

Flare and bane spots are the most commonly wasted spots, as people add one and then get it removed later for something else. Keep that in mind.

Alterations:

Have an idea ready. Have a backup idea ready. If they are refused, make a change within 30 seconds. Don't hold up the event.

Final thought

Respect the GMs, respect the GMs, respect the GMs. Remember, this may not be your last event, you want to leave an impression that you are thoughtful, prepared, and respectful of their time. These are people who volunteered to do this, so show them the utmost respect and thank them thoroughly when your work is complete.

Respect each other, it goes a long way.

~Drew aka IW aka Jaeden

(player of Zentalin)

Daiyon
03-06-2014, 08:36 AM
That was cool of you to write this up. There is good information here. Thanks

Zaigh
03-06-2014, 03:45 PM
I emailed Wyrom per-raffle asking about adding resists to an already resisted armor. He said I could. Seems the max per type is +30, but it can have multiple types

Luftstreitkräfte
03-06-2014, 04:37 PM
I appreciate that Daiyon - some people would prefer I keep this information to myself but ultimately I think spreading out the wealth and strategy is in the best interest of the game as a whole.

Thanks for that info Zaigh. I'm now tempted to go for a resist spot..

Wish I had a ticket!

Gawyane
03-06-2014, 05:39 PM
So basically if you don't have hundreds of millions of silver or already uber items, events are useless?

Allereli
03-06-2014, 05:43 PM
So basically if you don't have hundreds of millions of silver or already uber items, events are useless?

no, you can sell one service to get the coins to use for another. Also, if you're working on lower enchant items, the services are not very expensive.

Gawyane
03-06-2014, 05:46 PM
no, you can sell one service to get the coins to use for another. Also, if you're working on lower enchant items, the services are not very expensive.

Ok that's cool. I figured the best way would be to sell a spot for something that couldn't be used to make some coin for something that could be used. It just sounded like if you don't have anything better than 6x you are just wasting someone else's chances of making their already awesome item better.

Allereli
03-06-2014, 05:55 PM
It just sounded like if you don't have anything better than 6x you are just wasting someone else's chances of making their already awesome item better.

some people do take it personally when someone else "wastes" a spot by making a lesser item. Sometimes you are better off selling the spot and using the money to buy something better than what you were going to make. Other times, like if you have an item that means something to you, it's more satisfying to use the spot yourself.

Jhynnifer
03-06-2014, 06:02 PM
Ok that's cool. I figured the best way would be to sell a spot for something that couldn't be used to make some coin for something that could be used. It just sounded like if you don't have anything better than 6x you are just wasting someone else's chances of making their already awesome item better.

Honestly, if you have the item, you have the money and you will use it... then do it. Who gives a shit if someone else thinks you wasted the slot? You're the one playing with it. GS doesn't always have to be about making the most game-breaking uber weapon/armor of doom humanly possible.

Gawyane
03-06-2014, 06:02 PM
Yeah that's basically me. Although I didn't get a ticket to CCF, I'm the type who takes pride in making their own items from nothing. Unfortunately it seems the only way to get items beyond the basic 4-5x is through festivals like this. I would have loved to have my 4x armor enchanted to 5x or have padding added to it or have a bane/weighting added to my 6x THW. But that definitely seems like it would piss people off lol.

Jarvan
03-06-2014, 06:03 PM
Ok that's cool. I figured the best way would be to sell a spot for something that couldn't be used to make some coin for something that could be used. It just sounded like if you don't have anything better than 6x you are just wasting someone else's chances of making their already awesome item better.


some people do take it personally when someone else "wastes" a spot by making a lesser item. Sometimes you are better off selling the spot and using the money to buy something better than what you were going to make. Other times, like if you have an item that means something to you, it's more satisfying to use the spot yourself.

To go with what she said, yeah, if you have a personal item that mans something and is irreplaceable, go ahead and make it better. That being said.. if you can make it better thru normal means... or thru PP's you are generally better off doing that then using a slot you can sell for more silver then what the other means would cost you.

ETing a vanilla 6x item? Most would consider it a waste. As that is real easy to do under normal means. Generally speaking.. cost effective wise, you are better off adding padding/weighting to something that has padding/weighting then adding it to something that doesn't. (except maybe weighting sometimes, as you can't normally add it.. but you will only have HCW.. so unless it's on a 7x or higher perfect forged weapon...) Best thing to do if you have a slot is ask some other people.

Example.. you have 7x fusion armor. You want to get it padded and you win a slot. it would prob cost you around 30-35 Million to buy the PP's to pad it thru the PP system. You could likely sell the slot for that, or much more (depends how far they will go with padding really, but I wouldn't be surprised if you got 50)

Best rule of thumb. Do what you want. Screw what people think.

Whirlin
03-06-2014, 06:28 PM
... you wrote your own damn guide...

well played sir.

Candor
03-06-2014, 06:29 PM
Yeah that's basically me. Although I didn't get a ticket to CCF, I'm the type who takes pride in making their own items from nothing. Unfortunately it seems the only way to get items beyond the basic 4-5x is through festivals like this. I would have loved to have my 4x armor enchanted to 5x or have padding added to it or have a bane/weighting added to my 6x THW. But that definitely seems like it would piss people off lol.

Who cares what other people think about how you use a service? If you decide to upgrade your 4x armor to 5x, that's your business. It isn't the best use of the service, but it is still YOUR service to use.

If I used a service in a way that pissed another player off and he complained, I would laugh at him.

Allereli
03-06-2014, 06:31 PM
If I used a service in a way that pissed another player off and he complained, I would laugh at him.

I always used to think this until that 4x broadsword was permablessed

Wrathbringer
03-06-2014, 06:34 PM
Who cares what other people think about how you use a service? If you decide to upgrade your 4x armor to 5x, that's your business. It isn't the best use of the service, but it is still YOUR service to use.

If I used a service in a way that pissed another player off and he complained, I would laugh at him.

When I win a service and people whisper to me wanting to know the properties of the item I'm having worked on, I always say, "it's just 4x." Some people lose their minds.

Velfi
03-06-2014, 06:37 PM
... you wrote your own damn guide...

well played sir.

Competition is heating up.

Velfi
03-06-2014, 06:38 PM
I always used to think this until that 4x broadsword was permablessed

Poor Sam :(

SHAFT
03-06-2014, 06:47 PM
Look at IW becoming a productive member of society. Well done.

Daiyon
03-06-2014, 07:13 PM
Honestly, if you have the item, you have the money and you will use it... then do it. Who gives a shit if someone else thinks you wasted the slot? You're the one playing with it. GS doesn't always have to be about making the most game-breaking uber weapon/armor of doom humanly possible.

Says the person with multiple examples of very high end gear. :p

Luftstreitkräfte
03-06-2014, 09:38 PM
Who cares what other people think about how you use a service? If you decide to upgrade your 4x armor to 5x, that's your business. It isn't the best use of the service, but it is still YOUR service to use.

If I used a service in a way that pissed another player off and he complained, I would laugh at him.

Good point. Added a section for "players with less resources."

Gemstones
03-06-2014, 09:47 PM
Excellent, well-written and well-thought out guide. Very helpful.


Do not ever try to milk people with fake bids, especially when it backfires and your dumb ass is left without a bidder because you won your own auction. Let me repeat, here on the PC or in game, do not ever tempt fate with fake bids. If you do so, I pray that the wrath of the flying spagetti monster

Who does this?

bremerial
03-08-2014, 04:30 AM
Luftstreitkrfte. Bloody brilliant guide! You've certainly helped me. I think people assume because a person has been knocking around in the game for a while in one guise or another that they know all this stuff. Nothing could be further from the truth in my case.

This has been an incredibly useful read, very educative and has helped me with a few decision making processes!

bremerial
03-08-2014, 04:52 AM
One question. If something is zested end can bane still be placed on it? It doesn't need to be stripped of zests first I hope.

Roblar
03-08-2014, 09:50 AM
One question. If something is zested end can bane still be placed on it? It doesn't need to be stripped of zests first I hope.

Hey Brem,

Finros helped answer some question yesterday here:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?89000-XP-Item-Properties-and-Special-Abilities&p=1639689#post1639689

But basically, yes bane can added to an already scripted item because it unique in that it is a remote script that affects the combat engine separately and is not inherently built into the item fields. In almost all other cases (weight reducing script also plays nice with a few scripts) you can't have two scripts. Banes are good though!

caelric
03-08-2014, 09:59 AM
But basically, yes bane can added to an already scripted item because it unique in that it is a remote script that affects the combat engine separately and is not inherently built into the item fields. In almost all other cases (weight reducing script also plays nice with a few scripts) you can't have two scripts. Banes are good though!

One example, I asked about bane with blink, and was told that yes, bane and blink can go together.

Warriorbird
03-08-2014, 09:59 AM
Good post Drew. It all rings true except I'd stress friends/chats even more as a way to gain services/swag.

Roblar
03-08-2014, 10:02 AM
One example, I asked about bane with blink, and was told that yes, bane and blink can go together.

And have gone out together

bremerial
03-08-2014, 10:04 AM
Hey Brem,

Finros helped answer some question yesterday here:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?89000-XP-Item-Properties-and-Special-Abilities&p=1639689#post1639689

But basically, yes bane can added to an already scripted item because it unique in that it is a remote script that affects the combat engine separately and is not inherently built into the item fields. In almost all other cases (weight reducing script also plays nice with a few scripts) you can't have two scripts. Banes are good though!

Roblar. Yore a star as always. Thanks!

Roblar
03-08-2014, 10:16 AM
Roblar. Yore a star as always. Thanks!


I am a big, bright, shining star. That's right.

Insert DD picture upload fail.

Luftstreitkräfte
03-08-2014, 10:23 AM
Look at IW becoming a productive member of society. Well done.


Good post Drew. It all rings true except I'd stress friends/chats even more as a way to gain services/swag.


Luftstreitkrfte. Bloody brilliant guide! You've certainly helped me. I think people assume because a person has been knocking around in the game for a while in one guise or another that they know all this stuff. Nothing could be further from the truth in my case.

This has been an incredibly useful read, very educative and has helped me with a few decision making processes!

Thanks for all the great feedback here and in reputation comments.

Added link to the Charts of Clarity from Krakii

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/The_Charts_of_Clarity

Goat
03-08-2014, 11:32 PM
This is a great guide, but your comments regarding ethics leave me scratching my head:

"Do not ever try to milk people with fake bids ... rains down infernally on your worthless soul."

""If you're selling a spot, this is also an opportunity to profit - if the item cost 1 million coins to work on, you can say it cost 2 million, or whatever you want."

So it's not okay to lie about private bids, but it's okay to lie about merchant cost? I can't understand how you'd see the former as deserving hellfire and the latter as perfectly cromulent behavior.

Gemstones
03-08-2014, 11:43 PM
Good point, Goat. But the guide is still good.


Do not ever try to milk people with fake bids, especially when it backfires and your dumb ass is left without a bidder because you won your own auction. Let me repeat, here on the PC or in game, do not ever tempt fate with fake bids. If you do so, I pray that the wrath of the flying spagetti monster, God, Allah, Carl Sagan, or whatever the fuck you believe in, rains down infernally on your worthless soul.


Sometimes the merchant will say the item cost outloud, sometimes not. If you're selling a spot, this is also an opportunity to profit - if the item cost 1 million coins to work on, you can say it cost 2 million, or whatever you want. Your spot, your rules. Milk 'em for all they're worth - unless it's a friend. But this can backfire too if the GM announces the price, and some consider it grimy. Try to be sensible. If the spot sold for less than you wanted, really it's okay to get another mil or two out of it within the service cost.

Luftstreitkräfte
03-09-2014, 09:11 AM
This is a great guide, but your comments regarding ethics leave me scratching my head.



I wouldn't overthink it. I want people to be aware it happens and that some consider it grimy or unethical. Personally I wouldn't mind someone making 1 or 2 more million off of me from a spot sell if it makes their little heart content.

Gemstones
03-09-2014, 01:32 PM
I wouldn't overthink it. I want people to be aware it happens and that some consider it grimy or unethical. Personally I wouldn't mind someone making 1 or 2 more million off of me from a spot sell if it makes their little heart content.

I think he's wondering why you don't take offense at this, but do take offense at fake bids. In both cases, the buyer is being misled. Also, one could make the argument that the fake merchant pricing is worse. In that case, people have already committed to paying whatever the merchant charges, whereas in the fake bid situation, people can simply decide to not bid any further.

Luftstreitkräfte
03-10-2014, 07:36 PM
Added this link from Finros: http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Hunting%20and%20Combat/Weapon%20and%20Armor%20Discussion/view/160

(shows fairly comprehensive list of item add-ons and what slot they go in)

Sav
03-10-2014, 09:06 PM
Also what happens when the buyer asks his buddy "how much was your 7x heavy padding?"... "Oh yours was only 12m?"... "The guy I just paid to do the same project said the gm charged 20m..." then he feels cheated and runs your reputation under the bus for the remainder of the event because you felt the desire to make a few extra coins.

Honesty may not make the most profit every time.. But it'll make for a good reputation and in this small community means almost everything.

As far as wasting services on items.. It can be a waste of the service and a waste of what you could potentially acquire if you are to win something and you dot have a great item to work on.. 9/10 you can buy better than what you'd make and have coin to spare.. And you make someone happy cause they were able to get more benefit from the service. But yea it's your stuff so never feel bad about doing what you want.. Just don't screw yourself and make.a 5x fel hafter

Luftstreitkräfte
03-28-2014, 07:39 AM
Bump - make sure to read this sexy guide before the event tonight.

bremerial
03-29-2014, 03:32 AM
Bump - make sure to read this sexy guide before the event tonight.

...and during the event. Reading again as we speak.

Ruh
03-29-2014, 04:11 AM
So who got the bow?

Luftstreitkräfte
03-29-2014, 07:54 AM
Galenblackbard

by the way guys I'm stocked with a few project pieces:

7x morphing brig (morphs all the way down to studded, 4 possible desc)
8x perfect maul
10x large shield - wood, max light

Moonwitch
03-29-2014, 08:20 AM
Wow. Go Galen!

FlayedAngel
03-29-2014, 09:01 PM
Wow. Go Galen!
Yeah, grats dude!! That's awesome.

Luftstreitkräfte
08-04-2014, 08:24 AM
EG is coming in October. For those just returning and wanting to get the most out of your merchant experience, read this thread ASAP.