RP awards

[Candor]

Does anyone get these anymore?

[Jeril]

People get them all the time, mostly for storyline related things.

[zennsunni]

Sure, just go brown-nose a GM controlled storyline NPC and use words like "aye", giggle a lot, and nod at them when they say things.

[waywardgs]

Sure, just go brown-nose a GM controlled storyline NPC and use words like "aye", giggle a lot, and nod at them when they say things.

Translation: I'm bitter because I haven't gotten any RPA's recently.

[Buckwheet]

We tried to hand some out after our last MHO event. No idea if anyone got one, but I got a random one once after a different groups MHO event.

[Donquix]

Translation: I'm bitter because I haven't gotten any RPA's recently.

To be fair, it works. Consistently. Just replace giggle with chuckle if gender = male, or raise eyebrow if race = dark elf.

[Allereli]

Translation: I'm bitter because I haven't gotten any RPA's recently.

actually that's pretty much how it works lately

[Dayko]

I got one a couple weeks ago, outside of Illistim just talking to a friend and was roleplaying Dayko as a partial crazed person who forgot what he said a minute ago. Lol Loved that 4x RPA <3

[waywardgs]

actually that's pretty much how it works lately

I'm not disagreeing. I'm just laughing at the people who bitch that so many rpa's are being given out right now. If you want one, you can get one. So what if it's easy? Sounds like a good deal to me.

[Whirlin]

Yeah, they handed them out like candy in the Illistim invasions. Pretty much die in invasion = RPA for a while there.

I managed to get multiple RPAs on all 4 characters over the course of a week just by spelling people up during invasions, fighting/dying, raising, etc.

[SHAFT]

I'm not disagreeing. I'm just laughing at the people who bitch that so many rpa's are being given out right now. If you want one, you can get one. So what if it's easy? Sounds like a good deal to me.

I love the fact kenstrom has been handing them out so freely for the storyline. Makes people want to play more.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

Things are great right now. More RPAs in the last 6 months then in the last 15 years of playing.

[Tolwynn]

I'd rather they were handed out freely for participating in game events instead of for passing a script check - it's almost like they're encouraging people to machine scripts with the latter.

[Warriorbird]

I'd rather they were handed out freely for participating in game events instead of for passing a script check - it's almost like they're encouraging people to machine scripts with the latter.

They haven't been rational for quite a while.

[Buckwheet]

They just need to add them to the Simucoin store.

[waywardgs]

They just need to add them to the Simucoin store.

Heh. What would you pay for a month-long 4x rpa?

[Donquix]

I'd rather they were handed out freely for participating in game events instead of for passing a script check - it's almost like they're encouraging people to machine scripts with the latter.

You joke but I got an RPA once for literally doing nothing but passing an AFK script check. New baby character, was totally script hunting during the first 30 days, but was at the keyboard monitoring. I forget the exact action that happened, was hunting just outside the gates of the landing so it was either something environmental or like a velnalin came by and humped my leg. I just said something like "well that's strange" and got an RPA. Worked out pretty great. Highest level I ever got a character during the first 30 :D

[Methais]

Sure, just go brown-nose a GM controlled storyline NPC and use words like "aye", giggle a lot, and nod at them when they say things.

You don't even have to do that. Just join the group, run this and go to bed.

#RPA

match quit An old memory bubbles up from your past
match quit It is good to be alive
match quit now understand more of what
matchwait

quit:
pause 30
put exit

[Asrial]

Don't forget you can ROLEPLAY NOMINATE someone. I try to do that when I have fun with people beyond randomness, and they stay in character.

[Kalishar]

Things are great right now. More RPAs in the last 6 months then in the last 15 years of playing.

Same here, back when I was a teen playing this game I didn't really care about how long it took me to level and such because time wasn't as important to me. Now that I've gotten older and balancing GS time around work and other things time means much more to me.

So yes, I'm all in favor of this since watching storylines unfold is already something I enjoy doing, now it helps me spend less time hunting while gaining the same rewards.

[SHAFT]

Same here, back when I was a teen playing this game I didn't really care about how long it took me to level and such because time wasn't as important to me. Now that I've gotten older and balancing GS time around work and other things time means much more to me.

So yes, I'm all in favor of this since watching storylines unfold is already something I enjoy doing, now it helps me spend less time hunting while gaining the same rewards.

Watching your exp tick by with a rpa and your weekly gift is just as good as a monster AS and big flares. Love me some big numbers!

[Kalishar]

Watching your exp tick by with a rpa and your weekly gift is just as good as a monster AS and big flares. Love me some big numbers!

Hell yeah, gotta do what you enjoy!

[Anebriated]

pretty sure you lose exp by running both at once(I believe they cap out at 6x, not 7x as many believe). Ive never heard of someone pulsing at 280 without enhancives), sometimes it cant be avoided though. I always try to use up my gift before storyline events happen to get the most out of both.

[SHAFT]

pretty sure you lose exp by running both at once(I believe they cap out at 6x, not 7x as many believe). Ive never heard of someone pulsing at 280 without enhancives), sometimes it cant be avoided though. I always try to use up my gift before storyline events happen to get the most out of both.

I've only had it happen a couple of times I think. It made me happy when it happened. Don't ruin it for me dude.

[waywardgs]

Caps at 6x nowadays. That's relatively recent (a year or so)

[Jeril]

RPAs are based on exp earned, so having both at once you do earn potentially less exp, it is nice to see the big numbers though. However, there are times where you can't exactly help having both at once.

[Jhynnifer]

I love the fact kenstrom has been handing them out so freely for the storyline. Makes people want to play more.

Really? It actually makes me want to be -less- involved. Every Tom, Dick and Moron shows up and acts like a complete asshat or offers up their uninformed, unsolicited opinion. They've said recently on the officials that they plan on being more conservative in handing them out and I applaud them for it. Its a sad day when RPAs actually aid in the death of RP in GS.

[Warriorbird]

Really? It actually makes me want to be -less- involved. Every Tom, Dick and Moron shows up and acts like a complete asshat or offers up their uninformed, unsolicited opinion. They've said recently on the officials that they plan on being more conservative in handing them out and I applaud them for it. Its a sad day when RPAs actually aid in the death of RP in GS.

I tend to think inclusion is a good thing. It at least tends to make them RP related.

[Anebriated]

I would show up and sit quietly and listen. Didnt feel the need to interject my opinions every time the NPC said something. I enjoyed that because the RPA was a nice way of making up for having to listen and sort through the rest of the mess.

[Anebriated]

Caps at 6x nowadays. That's relatively recent (a year or so)

Hah! I knew it. Jara went off on me on Lnet calling me a moron for saying it wasn't 7x a few weeks back. I knew the numbers backed me up but whatever, wasn't going to get into it.

[Jeril]

I tend to think inclusion is a good thing. It at least tends to make them RP related.

I think the biggest problem is kind of what Riend said, people run their sucks just to be heard instead of shutting up, listening, and using their tiny little brains to figure out what is going on. It is great to be curious but there is a time and place for asking questions to figure out exactly what is going on and right in the middle of everything isn't it. Wait until afterwards and do some real RP with the people more directly involved to find out what is going on, most of them are more then willing to take the time to tell you their side.

[Jhynnifer]

I tend to think inclusion is a good thing. It at least tends to make them RP related.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for inclusion as well. The more people actually interested in the storyline the better. That's not what is happening. Its 20-30 people interested in the storyline and another 40 who show up for the RPA. If they all sat quietly in the back it would be one thing, but enough of them choose to be loud and obnoxious about it thinking that's what's going to get them their 4x. Its distracting and disrespectful.

[Warriorbird]

I think the biggest problem is kind of what Riend said, people run their sucks just to be heard instead of shutting up, listening, and using their tiny little brains to figure out what is going on. It is great to be curious but there is a time and place for asking questions to figure out exactly what is going on and right in the middle of everything isn't it. Wait until afterwards and do some real RP with the people more directly involved to find out what is going on, most of them are more then willing to take the time to tell you their side.

Some of us have felt that way about people before and they've ended up becoming pretty damn good roleplayers in spite of themselves. I'd be glad an event was running.


Don't get me wrong, I am all for inclusion as well. The more people actually interested in the storyline the better. That's not what is happening. Its 20-30 people interested in the storyline and another 40 who show up for the RPA. If they all sat quietly in the back it would be one thing, but enough of them choose to be loud and obnoxious about it thinking that's what's going to get them their 4x. Its distracting and disrespectful.

If people are too obnoxious, GMs have ways of dealing with it. Just tell Kenstrom to display some testicular fortitude.

[Jhynnifer]

Some of us have felt that way about people before and they've ended up becoming pretty damn good roleplayers in spite of themselves. I'd be glad an event was running.



If people are too obnoxious, GMs have ways of dealing with it. Just tell Kenstrom to display some testicular fortitude.

Why should Kenstrom be forced to play Babysitter? He's already had to ruin the more subtle nuances of rp at his events with that new crowd control script, now you want him to police people because they're incapable of acting like well adjusted adults?

[waywardgs]

Why should Kenstrom be forced to play Babysitter? He's already had to ruin the more subtle nuances of rp at his events with that new crowd control script, now you want him to police people because they're incapable of acting like well adjusted adults?

Welcome to the planet?

[Gelston]

I think people should use rp nominate more.

[Jeril]

I think people should use rp nominate more.

I always forget to use it.

[waywardgs]

H>roleplay nom jeril
To nominate someone currently engaged in excellent roleplaying, type:
ROLEPLAY NOMINATE <name> <reason>.

I have to have a reason?!

[Doldrum]

This might come as a surprise but sometimes the reason people put there is sarcastic.

[Jhynnifer]

This might come as a surprise but sometimes the reason people put there is sarcastic.

Sarcasm doesn't exist on the internet.

[Donquix]

Don't get me wrong, I am all for inclusion as well. The more people actually interested in the storyline the better. That's not what is happening. Its 20-30 people interested in the storyline and another 40 who show up for the RPA. If they all sat quietly in the back it would be one thing, but enough of them choose to be loud and obnoxious about it thinking that's what's going to get them their 4x. Its distracting and disrespectful.

It seems like you define inclusion as people sitting and watching you participate in the event "properly?"

What do you expect? Can you blame people for clamoring for either the RPA or just to be a part of the "in" crowd for the event? They don't do enough events, as staffed they can't. So when they happen it's a clusterfuck to be involved. It's a genre based upon personal interaction in a medium where handling the masses is unruly without muting everything. And the shotgun solution always seems to be "throw an invasion of things into town." And obviously there's a bottleneck with trying to interact with the actual event NPCs, who gives a shit about the players? I RP with them every day. I can RP about them about this event whenthe event for the day is over...because they'll probably still be on. But right now I want to be, if nothing else, tangentially involved with the "official" storyline and its NPCs. That will never go away no matter what you do (aside from waiting another decade or two if the game is still around for the general attrition to take things down to the point where it's plat population levels in prime)

So here's the funny thing...they don't need to give out less. They need to give out more, and they need to make it easier. Just flat out say, every so often they'll check who's in the area. Don't need to talk, just be there. Make it very well known. There you go, the people who don't care will be more likely to be quiet if they just have to be around. Oh noes, double/triple exp for a bit for a few extra people...teh game balance is thrown off evermore.

[Wrathbringer]

I got an rpa once for farting on Fleurs at a festival. If you haven't had one in awhile, you might try that.

[Buckwheet]

Heh. What would you pay for a month-long 4x rpa?

I don't know that I would do it based on month long 4x. I would probably suggest they simply let you purchase additional XXX or extend it. I think most people feel like they can earn like 30k XP per XXX session. So I would say at the start the price at half of a second basic subscription to add one additional round of XXX is what I might be interested in doing. You could limit to 4x per month if you wanted or just let it be unlimited.

I have been keeping really good track of my bounties lately using vouchers and the "skip all tasks of this kind" voucher. Based on just one type of bounty, collecting tentacles, without factoring in XXX, and based on what it appears I could sell these skins for at current pshop prices, 1 million experience is "costing me" on average $140. Why do I say costing me? Because several times now I have gotten certain bounties and been one or two short and for a while the normal players who sell them didn't have any in stock. I can only assume(like crawler teeth) that they are popular enough for other people to fill in their bounty that had I skipped that bounty I could have sold my skins for the previously posted price.

So if $140 buys you 1m experience, in order for Simu to just hand you that XP for "free" since its just added to your bucket you probably need to make it cost ~2x as much. So you buy $140 worth of tentacles and then pay $280 for that entire absorb time to earn 2m xp in the same time period you would have earned 1m. It so happens that 1m xp is 33.33 30k XXX cycles. So somewhere around $7-8 per XXX.

[Narthsin]

They have offered RPA orbs as prizes for some of the recent contests, basically they hand you an orb and tell you to rub it when you want your award to start.

Pretty nice. Do they currently offer those for Simucoins?

[Buckwheet]

They have offered RPA orbs as prizes for some of the recent contests, basically they hand you an orb and tell you to rub it when you want your award to start.

Pretty nice. Do they currently offer those for Simucoins?

No. They charge you the fee for the event and ask you to complete the event for your choice of prizes. I think they should be made available through the simucoin store.

[zennsunni]

Translation: I'm bitter because I haven't gotten any RPA's recently.

Actually, I got one a few weeks ago from a clandestine GM during routine interaction without any knowledge that I was being observed.

[Jhynnifer]

It seems like you define inclusion as people sitting and watching you participate in the event "properly?"


This is not what I am saying. With a few exceptions my characters rarely pushes herself into the spotlight of an rp event. I'm saying that it's complete douchebaggery for someone who has absolutely no interest in a storyline to show up and act like a complete ass just so they can get an rpa. At the very least they should inform themselves or have a modicum of common courtesy and at least -try- to rp. There's a number of people who don't RP who show up and keep quiet and I completely respect that. And once again, we're not talking about people who want to be in the "in" crowd for a storyline. That's normal inclusion and trust me, over the years a lot of us have done a lot to include as many people as possible. I'm talking about people showing up without any idea of what's going on, being only barely IC and laughing their ass off on lnet about how they're gonna get their rpas.

And no, they don't need to give out more. Because three years ago when the Grishom storyline happened Kenstrom didn't give our nearly as many rpas and there wasn't this clusterfuck. The majority of people involved actually cared about the storyline and the RPA was just a little something extra. He's an extremely nice guy and he wants to include everyone so over the years he's been giving them out more and more to the point where people expect it and they expect it for doing absolutely nothing. Look at the stink made on the officials over people not getting rpas for invasions. When did it -ever- become the norm for people to get those? The past year or so? Maybe? I can't count the number of times I died to golems during the Grishom Stone storyline and didn't get an rpa. But now everyone expects it, they expect it for doing nothing and they don't care how they get them. That's not rp and its sure as hell not awarding people for good rp.

[Latrinsorm]

I think the biggest problem is kind of what Riend said, people run their sucks just to be heard instead of shutting up, listening, and using their tiny little brains to figure out what is going on."I can hardly hear Jeril through all this weather."
chuckle
It is great to be curious but there is a time and place for asking questions to figure out exactly what is going on and right in the middle of everything isn't it.nod jeril
"Guys, let's be quiet and listen to Jeril."
Wait until afterwards and do some real RP with the people more directly involved to find out what is going on, most of them are more then willing to take the time to tell you their side.smile
nod jeril

[Tgo01]

Come on, Latrin. Even as a guy you have to giggle at least once to get an RPA.

[Taernath]

Actually, I got one a few weeks ago from a clandestine GM during routine interaction without any knowledge that I was being observed.


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[Doldrum]

So here's the funny thing...they don't need to give out less. They need to give out more, and they need to make it easier. Just flat out say, every so often they'll check who's in the area. Don't need to talk, just be there. Make it very well known. There you go, the people who don't care will be more likely to be quiet if they just have to be around. Oh noes, double/triple exp for a bit for a few extra people...teh game balance is thrown off evermore.

The problem is they hand out more and someone doesnt get one and they rush off to the officials and throw a fit. Once things become the norm they become expected and then more is wanted and more idiots show up. Double/triple exp for a bit wont throw off game balance but it leads down stupid paths. Malcontents who dont care about the RP of the storyline show up just to get rpas and act like children and disrupt it. Eventually Kenstrom is going to burn out thinking up these elaborate storylines just so people can show up and make smart ass comments. I think the solution is why even have to show up to get the rpas, if you dont have to rp for one why do you have to be there? Why cant there just be a permanent rpa!

[Tgo01]

RPAs just for logging on! I agree!

[Dayko]

I'm saying that it's complete douchebaggery for someone who has absolutely no interest in a storyline to show up and act like a complete ass just so they can get an rpa.

This describes Herberto so much.

[Kalishar]

I've been to a handful of the gatherings lately and maybe my tolerance level is just higher than normal, but I really don't see people going crazy and acting a fool for long enough that I can't just ignore it.

Remember you're in a huge crowd of people, how hard is it to ignore the wacko on the other side of the street?

[Dayko]

Thread: RP awardsdescribes you


Huh, funny. If I have no absolute interest in the storyline going on between Wehnimer's Landing/Ta'Illistim:

1: I wouldn't have a unique title as "Disciple of the Lich"
2: I actually commit my RP in the little events that goes on through the week.
3: I don't interupt any events by killing someone unnecessarily and calling a GM disguised character out and insulting him the whole time.
4: I'm not a douchebag. I assist others with spells, imbedding, hunting company, etc. If I'm a douchebag to you, you must be an asshole to me. What's that phrase again...? oh yeah, "Treat others the way you'd like to be treated."

[Buckwheet]

The problem is they hand out more and someone doesnt get one and they rush off to the officials and throw a fit. Once things become the norm they become expected and then more is wanted and more idiots show up. Double/triple exp for a bit wont throw off game balance but it leads down stupid paths. Malcontents who dont care about the RP of the storyline show up just to get rpas and act like children and disrupt it. Eventually Kenstrom is going to burn out thinking up these elaborate storylines just so people can show up and make smart ass comments. I think the solution is why even have to show up to get the rpas, if you dont have to rp for one why do you have to be there? Why cant there just be a permanent rpa!

I am just curious about why you feel it would throw off "game balance." The only thing I think it would throw off is "character cash value balance". If tomorrow you wanted to do X(whatever X might be) to have a character that has 100 million experience. I would be totally fine with that because for whatever time period you decide to play you will be stuck doing nothing but the same 5 things any capped player is already experiencing. You can hunt Bandits(Way easier now with the vouchers), Grims, OTF, Nelemar, or Rift, and to be quite honest from what I have seen having 40m experience in a place like Scatter doesn't mean you just insta kill everything and never have a chance of dying.

I played Shattered. I played a just under 40m experience character in shattered and let me tell you, it was boring as shit. Just because you have monster experience and skills doesn't mean you are going to enjoy your time more. With the level cap in place having all that extra experience just doesn't seem that game shattering to me.

Obviously I am not trying to advocate for some orb you rub that grants you 10 million experience or something. I am just saying that if someone has a long weekend and wants to double up on their XXX throwing some cash at the game to pickup additional XXX rounds doesn't seem that ridiculous.

[Methais]

Thread: RP awardsdescribes you


Huh, funny. If I have no absolute interest in the storyline going on between Wehnimer's Landing/Ta'Illistim:

1: I wouldn't have a unique title as "Disciple of the Lich"
2: I actually commit my RP in the little events that goes on through the week.
3: I don't interupt any events by killing someone unnecessarily and calling a GM disguised character out and insulting him the whole time.
4: I'm not a douchebag. I assist others with spells, imbedding, hunting company, etc. If I'm a douchebag to you, you must be an asshole to me. What's that phrase again...? oh yeah, "Treat others the way you'd like to be treated."

While I don't disbelieve you, that's not proof of interest in a storyline.

Xeniphite's name is on a plaque in the Landing museum (I think) over something for some storyline from 10+ years ago (GSS maybe?) that he was literally afk for the entire time. He still jokes about it to this day. I wanna say he got a custom title or something too but I can't remember.

For most of these events and storylines, all you have to do is show up to get an RPA. Or more accurately, be in the room when the GM takes the snapshot. I've literally showed up to an event like 1 minute before it ended for the night. Did absolutely nothing but walk into the room and sit there for a couple minutes and walked away with a 4x RPA.

Not that I'm complaining or anything though. The more RPAs the better.

[waywardgs]

It strikes me that people will find something to bitch about NO MATTER WHAT.

Kenstrom gives out rpa's:

"People get too many RPA's!! It's bullshit! They just show up and blah blah blah... They are teh suck at arrpee!!"

Kenstrom doesn't give out rpa's:

"Where's my RPA! Wtf I came down from Illistim for nothing!?!?"


How about everyone stfu and enjoy the storyline.

[Methais]

Know what would be a cool item on the Simucoin store? Something that allows you to absorb exp at node rates while still out hunting.

[SHAFT]

I make sure I re-up my encumbrance potion every month. If they were to sell a experience modifier, make it a once a month kind of thing. That's 2 items every single month they'd be getting cash from me for. If I could buy a 4x experience modifier once a month that'd be sweet.

[Warriorbird]

If a GM has an issue they can easily deal with people.

[Pumpkin Queen]

While I don't disbelieve you, that's not proof of interest in a storyline.

Xeniphite's name is on a plaque in the Landing museum (I think) over something for some storyline from 10+ years ago (GSS maybe?) that he was literally afk for the entire time. He still jokes about it to this day. I wanna say he got a custom title or something too but I can't remember.

For most of these events and storylines, all you have to do is show up to get an RPA. Or more accurately, be in the room when the GM takes the snapshot. I've literally showed up to an event like 1 minute before it ended for the night. Did absolutely nothing but walk into the room and sit there for a couple minutes and walked away with a 4x RPA.

Not that I'm complaining or anything though. The more RPAs the better.

You just like to argue =)

[Doldrum]

I am just curious about why you feel it would throw off "game balance." The only thing I think it would throw off is "character cash value balance". If tomorrow you wanted to do X(whatever X might be) to have a character that has 100 million experience. I would be totally fine with that because for whatever time period you decide to play you will be stuck doing nothing but the same 5 things any capped player is already experiencing. You can hunt Bandits(Way easier now with the vouchers), Grims, OTF, Nelemar, or Rift, and to be quite honest from what I have seen having 40m experience in a place like Scatter doesn't mean you just insta kill everything and never have a chance of dying.

I played Shattered. I played a just under 40m experience character in shattered and let me tell you, it was boring as shit. Just because you have monster experience and skills doesn't mean you are going to enjoy your time more. With the level cap in place having all that extra experience just doesn't seem that game shattering to me.

Obviously I am not trying to advocate for some orb you rub that grants you 10 million experience or something. I am just saying that if someone has a long weekend and wants to double up on their XXX throwing some cash at the game to pickup additional XXX rounds doesn't seem that ridiculous.

I actually said I didnt think it would throw off game balance.

[Buckwheet]

Know what would be a cool item on the Simucoin store? Something that allows you to absorb exp at node rates while still out hunting.

That is also another great idea. You still have to put in the work to gather the experience. So its not just a "snap your fingers get a million xp."

[Buckwheet]

I actually said I didnt think it would throw off game balance.

Oh I thought you said it would only worth for a short period of time meaning having the ability to be under perma XXX led to down the road to a stupid path or something. My mistake.

[Jhynnifer]

RPAs just for logging on! I agree!

isn't that called Lumis? =p


Thread: RP awardsdescribes you


Huh, funny. If I have no absolute interest in the storyline going on between Wehnimer's Landing/Ta'Illistim:

1: I wouldn't have a unique title as "Disciple of the Lich"
2: I actually commit my RP in the little events that goes on through the week.
3: I don't interupt any events by killing someone unnecessarily and calling a GM disguised character out and insulting him the whole time.
4: I'm not a douchebag. I assist others with spells, imbedding, hunting company, etc. If I'm a douchebag to you, you must be an asshole to me. What's that phrase again...? oh yeah, "Treat others the way you'd like to be treated."

While I don't usually follow Dayko's day-to-day exploits, I can't recall him being overly obnoxious at any storyline event.


It strikes me that people will find something to bitch about NO MATTER WHAT.

Kenstrom gives out rpa's:

"People get too many RPA's!! It's bullshit! They just show up and blah blah blah... They are teh suck at arrpee!!"

Kenstrom doesn't give out rpa's:

"Where's my RPA! Wtf I came down from Illistim for nothing!?!?"


How about everyone stfu and enjoy the storyline.

Wait, you mean we're not allowed to share our opinions on a forum that's meant for discussions? HOLY SHIT MIND BLOWN.

[Dendum]

This describes Herberto so much.

At least Herberto's character is consistent. He acts exactly the same away at the events as he does out of the events.
Half these people who play the "high born hero" would slober over a guy on the steps dunking dhe'nar babies in a sauce made of unicorn tears and ground up molested human alter boys if they think it would get Kenstrom's attention.

[Narthsin]

How about everyone stfu and enjoy the storyline.

This.

[Lady Lightning]

To me, the tools for solving this issue are already in place. In my mind, flat exp awards should be what is granted to the people who show up for events and RPAs to the people who actively participate either at that moment or following. The problem is, now everyone wants the mod which I always felt was to be given to above the norm performance- not participation. At this point, given the general exp greed this would probably only cause more random grandstanding than already is, but on the other hand a star might be born. Maybe amping up the amount of exp would help? While ideally everyone is involved, I admit I'd be tempted to give some people rpas just to have them go away. I'm sure the feeling is mutual, but it's not why I'm there so you're stuck!

In regard to the "in" crowd, I think the GMs in general have been good about sharing the spotlight with many people. The "in" crowd seems to be some of the people who consistently show up to roleplay and can be depended on. Still, I've seen a wide variety of people picked. (Even some when I think, "Oh, wtf with this jerk!")

I also want to remind the more reclusive people that there is a way to passively RP using the MYCHAR verb. It let's the GM know you're engaged even without adding to the public scroll. (GMs- please don't smite me if you get millions of MYCHARS from now on. Sorry!) Don't go crazy people, just one or two now and then.

Lastly I'd like to encourage everyone to RP all the time even in a small way. Before and after the NPCs are present particularly fitting times. So often rooms are devoid of RP while waiting on things to get hopping. Show some concern about why people are gathered or start a riot! I pretend to not be able to see across the crowd and all kinds of crazy things when the waiting happens.Also, If you can, stick around afterwards. Some of the best RP happens when the awards are given and it's the RP people there while the mongers bolt, mission accomplished.

Someone made a point to me after I was killed OOC the other day that said murderer only played for the hunting and mechanics. That's fine but don't hate on the people who treasure the other side and are ideal about their RP values.

Bob Marley said it best!

We should really love each other
In peace and harmony
Instead, we're fussing and fighting

[RSR]

isn't that called Lumis? =p


No, it's called Lumnis actually.

[Thondalar]

Does anyone get these anymore?

I got one last night for dying in a GM-run dice game.

[waywardgs]

Wait, you mean we're not allowed to share our opinions on a forum that's meant for discussions? HOLY SHIT MIND BLOWN.


You're right. By all means, continue to bitch.

[Jhynnifer]

No, it's called Lumnis actually.

You're absolutely right, I misspelled it. My apologies.


To me, the tools for solving this issue are already in place. In my mind, flat exp awards should be what is granted to the people who show up for events and RPAs to the people who actively participate either at that moment or following. The problem is, now everyone wants the mod which I always felt was to be given to above the norm performance- not participation. At this point, given the general exp greed this would probably only cause more random grandstanding than already is, but on the other hand a star might be born. Maybe amping up the amount of exp would help? While ideally everyone is involved, I admit I'd be tempted to give some people rpas just to have them go away. I'm sure the feeling is mutual, but it's not why I'm there so you're stuck!

In regard to the "in" crowd, I think the GMs in general have been good about sharing the spotlight with many people. The "in" crowd seems to be some of the people who consistently show up to roleplay and can be depended on. Still, I've seen a wide variety of people picked. (Even some when I think, "Oh, wtf with this jerk!")

I also want to remind the more reclusive people that there is a way to passively RP using the MYCHAR verb. It let's the GM know you're engaged even without adding to the public scroll. (GMs- please don't smite me if you get millions of MYCHARS from now on. Sorry!) Don't go crazy people, just one or two now and then.

Lastly I'd like to encourage everyone to RP all the time even in a small way. Before and after the NPCs are present particularly fitting times. So often rooms are devoid of RP while waiting on things to get hopping. Show some concern about why people are gathered or start a riot! I pretend to not be able to see across the crowd and all kinds of crazy things when the waiting happens.Also, If you can, stick around afterwards. Some of the best RP happens when the awards are given and it's the RP people there while the mongers bolt, mission accomplished.

Someone made a point to me after I was killed OOC the other day that said murderer only played for the hunting and mechanics. That's fine but don't hate on the people who treasure the other side and are ideal about their RP values.


I think this is a great idea and a possible fix.



You're right. By all means, continue to bitch.

Just like you'll continue to be a snippy asshole? Sure thing!



Thread: RP awards
Thanks for confirming to everyone that you're a bitch.

Not sure how my disagreeing automatically means I'm bitching OR a bitch. But clearly someone is butthurt. Carry on.

[waywardgs]

Just like you'll continue to be a snippy asshole? Sure thing!



Not sure how my disagreeing automatically means I'm bitching OR a bitch. But clearly someone is butthurt. Carry on.


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[Narthsin]

Not sure how my disagreeing automatically means I'm bitching OR a bitch. But clearly someone is butthurt. Carry on.

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Can we haz RP?

[Donquix]

This is not what I am saying. With a few exceptions my characters rarely pushes herself into the spotlight of an rp event. I'm saying that it's complete douchebaggery for someone who has absolutely no interest in a storyline to show up and act like a complete ass just so they can get an rpa. At the very least they should inform themselves or have a modicum of common courtesy and at least -try- to rp. There's a number of people who don't RP who show up and keep quiet and I completely respect that. And once again, we're not talking about people who want to be in the "in" crowd for a storyline. That's normal inclusion and trust me, over the years a lot of us have done a lot to include as many people as possible. I'm talking about people showing up without any idea of what's going on, being only barely IC and laughing their ass off on lnet about how they're gonna get their rpas.

And no, they don't need to give out more. Because three years ago when the Grishom storyline happened Kenstrom didn't give our nearly as many rpas and there wasn't this clusterfuck. The majority of people involved actually cared about the storyline and the RPA was just a little something extra. He's an extremely nice guy and he wants to include everyone so over the years he's been giving them out more and more to the point where people expect it and they expect it for doing absolutely nothing. Look at the stink made on the officials over people not getting rpas for invasions. When did it -ever- become the norm for people to get those? The past year or so? Maybe? I can't count the number of times I died to golems during the Grishom Stone storyline and didn't get an rpa. But now everyone expects it, they expect it for doing nothing and they don't care how they get them. That's not rp and its sure as hell not awarding people for good rp.

I think you ascribe too much personal satisfaction to "earning" one. I'm also thinking you're looking at things through a very colored lens because I was at that event and people did exactly what you're talking about now. And the rp event before that. And before that. And every one since then.


The problem is they hand out more and someone doesnt get one and they rush off to the officials and throw a fit. Once things become the norm they become expected and then more is wanted and more idiots show up. Double/triple exp for a bit wont throw off game balance but it leads down stupid paths. Malcontents who dont care about the RP of the storyline show up just to get rpas and act like children and disrupt it. Eventually Kenstrom is going to burn out thinking up these elaborate storylines just so people can show up and make smart ass comments. I think the solution is why even have to show up to get the rpas, if you dont have to rp for one why do you have to be there?!

People will always complain no matter what you do.


Why cant there just be a permanent rpa!

Clearly there's no happy medium between just giving out something to everyone present and permanent.

[Buckwheet]

My two cents:

I was playing my cleric during two of the Illistim invasion nights. I don't raise people normally and I don't ask to be raised/rescued as I handle that myself. I saw pretty much everyone getting killed and people begging on lnet to please please please bring clerics to the Dais! So I begrudgingly decided okay fine I am going to go chrism raise everyone for as long as I can and help out since it seems that other people's enjoyment is being ruined by things like itchy curse and the longer people are dead the more unlikey they are to recover their weapons.

So I did that on the Dais. All I saw was people complaining they couldn't get out to the fight fast enough. Half the people didn't even say thanks for the 100% chrism raise. There was no roleplay going on whatsoever on the Dais. I tried pretty hard to follow the bits and pieces on lnet while trying to make sure everyone was kept and that the two or three of us raising were keeping track of who is next etc.

I got an RPA for that.

Was I there for JUST that RPA? No. Do I give a shit that I got one just for caving in to help all the crying? Nope.

[Gelston]

I think you are all pretty gay.

[Narthsin]

I think you are all pretty gay.

Your custom title is rather ironic at the moment.

[Kalishar]

I'm all for granting rpa's like candy, it makes me want to participate more.

I do my best to stay IC at least, even if I'm not a stellar roleplayer. I wish most everyone would do that too instead or just acting like idiots, but I think the end result of more people participating is better than less people. Most of the responses against the current scheme of rpa's seem to be more along the lines of "too many people, you don't roleplay as good as me, and you're crowding up my spotlight" and "I don't even care about the exp boost anyway". The thing is, if you're roleplaying as well as you think you are, you're still getting what you want more often than not, the spotlight.

Since I've been back I've seen plenty of GM interaction with a much more varied group of people than when I used to play ~10 years ago. Then it used to be the same 10-20 people at the center of everything, or so it seemed. I much prefer how it's going today than how it was back then (other than the lack of people in the lands).

So really, stop complaining about really minor things, enjoy what you get and what you got.

[Doldrum]

I'm all for granting rpa's like candy, it makes me want to participate more.

I do my best to stay IC at least, even if I'm not a stellar roleplayer. I wish most everyone would do that too instead or just acting like idiots, but I think the end result of more people participating is better than less people. Most of the responses against the current scheme of rpa's seem to be more along the lines of "too many people, you don't roleplay as good as me, and you're crowding up my spotlight" and "I don't even care about the exp boost anyway". The thing is, if you're roleplaying as well as you think you are, you're still getting what you want more often than not, the spotlight.

Since I've been back I've seen plenty of GM interaction with a much more varied group of people than when I used to play ~10 years ago. Then it used to be the same 10-20 people at the center of everything, or so it seemed. I much prefer how it's going today than how it was back then (other than the lack of people in the lands).

So really, stop complaining about really minor things, enjoy what you get and what you got.

I agree for the most part. It seemed like back then the invasion would come and kill me repeatedly and then the RP part was secretish and the same 5 people were the only ones who got to see how it ended. I pretty much avoid most of the storylines now but the few times Ive been to them... for instance in Icemule the mayor was having a meeting and someone was purposely antagonizing the mayor and pasting it to Lnet for all the chuckleheads to highfive him. I think I agree with Warriorbird that the GMs do have the tools to deal with them but they dont use them near often enough. Arresting the people who are there for no reason but to disrupt would be a good thing.

It's also nice so many towns have GM interaction and storylines now so theres less roving packs of quest whores who just show up in towns they normally give two shits about. It's definitely an improvement.

[Jhynnifer]

"too many people, you don't roleplay as good as me, and you're crowding up my spotlight"

This is NOT what I have been saying at all. In fact I even stated the exact opposite. I am all for people rping and getting into the storyline. I'm not for people coming just for an RPA and not giving a shit about being borderline OOC and acting like an idiot. That has NOTHING to do with someone's ability to RP, it has EVERYTHING to do with people not giving a shit.

[Lady Lightning]

So really, stop complaining about really minor things, enjoy what you get and what you got.

So many people complaining about complaining.

[KneeCapper]

Frankly, I don't give a shit. I kill invaders, I rescue the fallen, and spell others when I have spare mana but that is what I do always and anyways. It's not about INTERACTION and blah blah blah, it's about ACTION and I've gotten more RPAs than I can count in the last month or so.

[Laviticas]

Frankly, I don't give a shit. I kill invaders, I rescue the fallen, and spell others when I have spare mana but that is what I do always and anyways. It's not about INTERACTION and blah blah blah, it's about ACTION and I've gotten more RPAs than I can count in the last month or so.

One problem with this mindset, you are forcing me to always RP a good guy. Currently I am unable to do that.

[Laviticas]

This describes Herberto so much.

How funny, have known Herb for almost 15 years and nothing about his character has changed. He's an insane Halfling, always has been. I mean Dayko, you play evil then have a rainbow shoot out your ass when you go to FWI? WTF?

[Methais]

One problem with this mindset, your are forcing me to always RP a good guy. Currently I am unable to do that.

Maybe I missed an earlier post, but how does what he does in invasions force you to play a good guy?

Know what I miss? Totally random invasions that have little or no real storyline attached to it. Just minding your own business and next thing you know there's all kinds of chaos happening.

Another thing I wish invasions would have is a boss, like a real one. Preferably with a low enough defense for most people to hit, but with an obscene amount of health so that it will take a while even for a large group to take down. And if it wipes out the room or goes X amount of time without being hit, its health regenerates. That way if it manages to kill everyone, it can continue its rampage until it's taken down instead of running around with 10 HP left for some random rat hunter to accidentally one shot.

Basically like a raid boss that's either non-corporeal or has troll king type crits, i.e. you can sever limbs and heads but it doesn't die from it.

[Warriorbird]

Basically like a raid boss that's either non-corporeal or has troll king type crits, i.e. you can sever limbs and heads but it doesn't die from it.

Guess what text based Simu game has had those?

[SHAFT]

Guess what text based Simu game has had those?

Modus Operandi!

[Warriorbird]

Modus Operandi!

You totally got it! I envy all their PM support.

[Laviticas]

Maybe I missed an earlier post, but how does what he does in invasions force you to play a good guy?

Bad choice of words on my part, I was more or less pointing out that spelling people up, killing invaders and raising the dead. Are things that those that chose to play for the "bad side" would look silly doing. (or something along that matter)

[Methais]

Bad choice of words on my part, I was more or less pointing out that spelling people up, killing invaders and raising the dead. Are things that those that chose to play for the "bad side" would look silly doing. (or something along that matter)

I guess that's the price of playing a care bear game where part of the GMs' jobs is to play mommy for easily butthurt people.

[Methais]

Modus Operandi!

I played that once for about 10 minutes.

The fact that they have a boss feature and GS doesn't makes me facepalm excessively.

[Laviticas]

I guess that's the price of playing a care bear game where part of the GMs' jobs is to play mommy for easily butthurt people.

touche.:punch:

[Warriorbird]

I played that once for about 10 minutes.

The fact that they have a boss feature and GS doesn't makes me facepalm excessively.

I meant DR but it wouldn't surprise me too.