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xShadowMerchantx
09-07-2004, 02:00 PM
Will an Elf with Max Agi/Dex swing two axe based weapons faster than a Half-Elf?

Ie... If I ambush with two faenor waraxes, will the elf be 1 second faster than the half-elf?

What would that RT be? 6 seconds Half-Elf, 5 for Elf?

Drew
09-07-2004, 02:09 PM
Ambush RT is always at least six seconds:

This is with a combined dex/agi of 52, weapon has a 5 second base RT:

>amb rol
You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing an imflass banded quarter staff at a rolton!
AS: +109 vs DS: +7 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +75 = +202
... and hit for 71 points of damage!
Hard blow breaks the femur!
The rolton collapses to the ground, emits a final bleat, and dies.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
>

Drew
09-07-2004, 02:14 PM
Well, not always six seconds, but even with enough bonus for a five second weapon to ambush in five seconds I've always seen an ambush be six.

I know it's quicker with smaller weapons but I'm not sure if they have the same one second penalty.



As far as elf vs half-elf, an elf with maxed dex/agi can reach 68 which is five seconds off of RT, half-elves can get 53 which is four seconds but not five seconds, they max out at 65 dex/agi so they won't get a five second reduction,

1 second sum of 8
2 seconds sum of 23
3 seconds sum of 38
4 seconds sum of 53
5 seconds sum of 68


[Edited on 9-7-2004 by Drew]

[Edited on 9-7-2004 by Drew]

Jonty
09-07-2004, 02:16 PM
They do have the one second penalty.

[Edited on 9-7-2004 by Jonty]

Drew
09-07-2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Jonty
They do have the one second penalty.

[Edited on 9-7-2004 by Jonty]

But only on slower weapons: with my guys dex/agi he should ambush:
5 sec quarterstaff
6 sec bastard sword/ katana
7 sec maul/ flamberge
8 sec great axe/ greatsword

All the numbers match up except for the quarterstaff, so the number is only higher for what should be a five second ambush.

Bobmuhthol
09-07-2004, 02:34 PM
My roundtimes for a katana and a claidhmore are identical (5 swing, 6 ambush).

Jonty
09-07-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Drew
But only on slower weapons:

No, it's with all weapons. The lowest ambush RT is the lowest attack RT +1.

[Edited on 9-7-2004 by Jonty]

xShadowMerchantx
09-07-2004, 03:01 PM
Swinging two short swords... and swinging two faenor waraxes... what would the RT's be... Max Half-Elf stats, Str, Dex, Agi and enhancive item for +4 Agi/Dex

StrayRogue
09-07-2004, 03:04 PM
I'd help, but you're a twat.

xShadowMerchantx
09-07-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
I'd help, but you're a twat.

Thanks for your dazzling display of intelligence.

StrayRogue
09-07-2004, 03:07 PM
OK, Mr. I'm-not-Geopussy-and-don't-rip-people-off-honest.

Drew
09-07-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Jonty

No, it's with all weapons. The lowest ambush RT is the lowest attack RT +1.

[Edited on 9-7-2004 by Jonty]


How do you figure I ambush with a bastard sword at 6 seconds? The staff is the only one getting the extra second added to it.

Jonty
09-07-2004, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Drew
How do you figure I ambush with a bastard sword at 6 seconds? The staff is the only one getting the extra second added to it. .

Because it's possible to attack with a bastard sword in 5 seconds....

5+1=6

Psykos
09-07-2004, 04:55 PM
Hance sucks, and scams people.

StrayRogue
09-07-2004, 05:00 PM
Agreed.

Lord Dainslef
12-31-2004, 06:45 PM
Fist of Fury!

You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing a closed fist at a hunch-backed dogmatist!
AS: +311 vs DS: +226 with AvD: +20 + d100 roll: +97 = +202
... and hit for 33 points of damage!
Solid strike caves the hunch-backed dogmatist's skull in, resulting in instant death!

Alarke
12-31-2004, 06:53 PM
Im confused...

Drew
12-31-2004, 07:10 PM
Nice ambush!