Ensorcell staff + shield, NONO

[rolfard]

Seems when holding a runestaff and shield, cva bonus is based off shield and not runestaff.

Tier 2 double leathers
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You gesture.
CS: +514 - TD: +90 + CvA: +8 + d100: +80 - -5 == +517
Warding failed!
You feel weakened as a blood red haze forms around you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Tier 2 double leathers and Tier 2 runestaff
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You gesture.
CS: +514 - TD: +90 + CvA: +4 + d100: +15 - -5 == +448
Warding failed!
You feel weakened as a blood red haze forms around you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Tier 2 double leathers, Tier 2 runestaff, Tier 1 shield
>
You gesture.
CS: +514 - TD: +100 + CvA: +6 + d100: +70 - -5 == +495
Warding failed!
You feel weakened as a blood red haze forms around you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>

[waywardgs]

Why would you use a staff and a shield at the same time?

[rolfard]

b/c, it works.

disclaimer: ensorcell cva doesn't "work" with runestaff and shield

[Jeril]

Can you try doing this with a T3 shield and a T2 runestaff, or a T2 shield and a T1 runestaff?

[Jace Solo]

So you hunt staff and shield? Does that increase your DS? I was under the impression shit don't work that way.

[Roblar]

So you hunt staff and shield? Does that increase your DS? I was under the impression shit don't work that way.

It does (from testing with a friend who picked up shield ranks postcap and was torn between a runestaff or shield and discovered boh is best for DS).

[rolfard]

with 101 shield ranks, your offensive/prone DS is better off with a shield + runestaff while in defensive you lose a smidgen of DS holding both instead of just a runestaff

and with no ranks you still can get the extra 2 fusion slots if you are holding a 7x fusion shield ;)

[Darcthundar]

So you hunt staff and shield? Does that increase your DS? I was under the impression shit don't work that way.

I did some research on this earlier this year before ensorcel. With ensorcel it is even much better.

The long version:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?79452-The-Best-of-Both-Worlds


The short version:

SYNOPSIS:

Shield/brawl 684 DS
Shield/runestaff 687 DS
Runestaff 688 DS

So the loss of DS is insignificant in my opinion. Add the 2 additional fusion slots and/or ensorcel flares from runestaff and it is well worth the effort in my opinion

[Rolton-Sammich]

So based on general GS principles, I expect that if any change comes from this, it'll be a nerf to DS from holding both runestaff and shield.

[Buckwheet]

That would be correct. Expecting impending nerf soon.

[Darcthundar]

Here is why I like Runestaff/Shield

If you do not feel like reading:

DS 683 in guarded standing position shield/staff
DS 631 in guarded prone position shield/brawling/staff is lying on the ground

Just as a side note I am fully trained in shield/brawling/CM/dodge



[Ruined Temple, Second Floor]
You notice a spectral triton defender, a spectral triton defender, a triton magus, a dried seaweed-wrapped longbow and some muck.
Obvious exits: northeast, east, west
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A triton magus removes a sapphire-tipped arrow from in his rough leather quiver.
A triton magus fires a sapphire-tipped arrow at you!
AS: +431 vs DS: +719 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +16 = -242
A clean miss.
The sapphire-tipped arrow disappears into the local environs.
>
A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
With extreme effort, you block the attack with your shield!
>target magus
>incant 717
You are now targeting a triton magus.
>
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Evil Eye...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a triton magus.
You stare at a triton magus.
CS: +562 - TD: +431 + CvA: +25 + d100: +15 == +171
Warding failed!
The triton magus looks at you in utter terror!
The triton magus drops its seaweed-wrapped longbow.
The triton magus is frightened into utter immobility! It collapses to the ground.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
By amazing chance, you evade the attack!


A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
AS: +424 vs DS: +683 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +12 = -221
A clean miss.
>incant 705
> loot
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Disintegrate...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a triton magus.
CS: +562 - TD: +431 + CvA: +25 + d100: +96 == +252
Warding failed!
You feel the unnatural surge of necrotic power wane away.
A dull grey beam snakes out toward the triton magus!
... 99 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Strike to right forearm strips away skin, exposing bleached bone and useless tendons!
... 24 points of damage!
Various bits of the triton magus melt away!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Could not find a valid target to loot.
>
RANK 6, RIGHT ARM, DISINTEGRATE, Damage: 30 Status Effect: Stunned 3 Rounds Wounds: Rank 2
Spell cast against CvA: 25, d100 Roll: 96, Endroll: 252, Total Damage: 153
A triton magus staggers slightly, swaying about in a daze.
>incant 705
> loot
...wait 1 seconds.
>
Could not find a valid target to loot.
>
A spectral triton defender dives at you with smooth, swift movements, bowling you over as he slams into your midsection! The defender latches onto your shoulders with his cold, clawed hands and forces your head underwater!
Roundtime: 7 sec.
PR>incant 705
> loot
...wait 7 seconds.
...wait 7 seconds.
PR>
[Roll result: 104 (open d100: 90)]
A spectral triton defender swings a tarnished dark silver harpoon at your runestaff and connects!
Your runestaff is knocked to the ground!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
PR>
[Roll result: 118 (open d100: 9)]
A spectral triton defender feints high, and you spot the ruse too late as you twist awkwardly to block the blow that never came!

Roundtime: 3 sec.
PR>
You quickly roll out to the side, knocking the triton defender off balance! Taking advantage of the situation, you scramble away to the surface, gasping for fresh air.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
PR>
A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
You flail on the ground but manage to block the attack with your shield!
PR>
A spectral triton defender stands up with a grunt.
PR>stand
...wait 1 seconds.
PR>
In an awe inspiring display of combat mastery, a spectral triton defender engages you in a furious dance macabre, spiralling into a blur of strikes and ripostes!
A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
AS: +430 vs DS: +631 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +59 = -116
A clean miss.

A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
AS: +430 vs DS: +631 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +4 = -171
A clean miss.

A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
AS: +430 vs DS: +631 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +68 = -107
A clean miss.

A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
AS: +430 vs DS: +631 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +27 = -148
A clean miss.

A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
AS: +430 vs DS: +631 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +14 = -161
A clean miss.

P>
A spectral triton defender thrusts with a tarnished dark silver harpoon at you!
You flail on the ground but manage to barely dodge the attack!
P>get runes
You pick up a runestaff.
P>stand
You stand back up.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>incant 705
> loot
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Disintegrate...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a triton magus.
CS: +553 - TD: +431 + CvA: +25 + d100: +40 == +187
Warding failed!
A dull grey beam snakes out toward the triton magus!
... 67 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Left leg violently separates from hip socket and dematerializes into bloody mass.
... 19 points of damage!
Various bits of the triton magus melt away!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.