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Gelston
10-05-2013, 10:14 AM
An unnamed postal employee (who likely won't be a postal employee for much longer) was recently caught on a home security camera driving her delivery vehicle over the homeowner's front lawn in order to drop off a small package.

"The package was not heavy in anyway," says the video's uploader, "and yet this woman made the decision to do this."

In addition to the tread marks left behind, some have noted that the incident could easily have damaged any underground sprinkler system that may have been installed.

http://gawker.com/postal-worker-too-lazy-to-walk-up-to-house-drives-over-1441098833


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs_9s31Je7Y

Gee, I wonder why she is so overweight.

Taernath
10-05-2013, 10:37 AM
I'm suprised she got out of the car before tossing the packages on the ground, I was betting she would have done it from the open window.

I've never seen a USPS carrier with her clothes though, over here they all wear uniforms.

Parkbandit
10-05-2013, 10:40 AM
An unnamed postal employee (who likely won't be a postal employee for much longer) was recently caught on a home security camera driving her delivery vehicle over the homeowner's front lawn in order to drop off a small package.

"The package was not heavy in anyway," says the video's uploader, "and yet this woman made the decision to do this."

In addition to the tread marks left behind, some have noted that the incident could easily have damaged any underground sprinkler system that may have been installed.

http://gawker.com/postal-worker-too-lazy-to-walk-up-to-house-drives-over-1441098833


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs_9s31Je7Y

Gee, I wonder why she is so overweight.

She's union.. no way she gets fired.

After 4-5 DUIs, multiple times being sent home because he was drunk, the police finding him drunk in the USPS parking lot and dropping out of rehab twice.. my uncle (on my wife's side!!) is still a postal employee in good standing.

Gelston
10-05-2013, 10:45 AM
I'm suprised she got out of the car before tossing the packages on the ground, I was betting she would have done it from the open window.

I've never seen a USPS carrier with her clothes though, over here they all wear uniforms.

I was thinking that may be a Breast Cancer Awareness uniform thingy, since it is October.

Ker_Thwap
10-05-2013, 11:08 AM
She's union.. no way she gets fired.

After 4-5 DUIs, multiple times being sent home because he was drunk, the police finding him drunk in the USPS parking lot and dropping out of rehab twice.. my uncle (on my wife's side!!) is still a postal employee in good standing.

My landlady's drunk postal worker husband was complaining to me how some idiot complained to his boss how he was drunk on the job, just because he stumbled a bit! Apparently being drunk on the job gets you a note in your personnel file.

Taernath
10-05-2013, 11:17 AM
Apparently being drunk on the job gets you a note in your personnel file.

Wow, sounds pretty serious.

diethx
10-05-2013, 11:42 AM
She's union.. no way she gets fired.

After 4-5 DUIs, multiple times being sent home because he was drunk, the police finding him drunk in the USPS parking lot and dropping out of rehab twice.. my uncle (on my wife's side!!) is still a postal employee in good standing.

Did he actually get a DUI on the job? Or just off? I dunno, I'm sort of torn. I don't believe you should be penalized at your job for poor decisions you make while not working, but he sounds like a real shitbag who shouldn't be working for the government. Or... maybe he should be. Yeah, maybe that's the perfect job for him.

Also, holy shit that woman in the video. I mean. Is there really anything else to say? Holy fucking shit. smh!

Gelston
10-05-2013, 11:44 AM
A DUI effects your ability to drive, it should definitely effect your job that requires driving.

diethx
10-05-2013, 11:47 AM
A DUI effects your ability to drive, it should definitely effect your job that requires driving.

That depends though, doesn't it? If he doesn't drink on the job and only drinks after work, then it really doesn't. Also, is he an actual mail carrier who delivers mail, or is he one of the employees who work in the office, sorting mail and being a general lazy douche at the counter?

Gelston
10-05-2013, 11:53 AM
That depends though, doesn't it? If he doesn't drink on the job and only drinks after work, then it really doesn't. Also, is he an actual mail carrier who delivers mail, or is he one of the employees who work in the office, sorting mail and being a general lazy douche at the counter?

I don't know if he was a driver or not, but the quoted says he was sent home for being drunk on the job.

The DUI does effect your job as a driver, however, because you lose your license and then, well, can't drive. State dependent that is, some places will let you hold a license to drive for work. I imagine after 4-5 though, they would completely revoke your license.

Parkbandit
10-05-2013, 12:20 PM
That depends though, doesn't it? If he doesn't drink on the job and only drinks after work, then it really doesn't. Also, is he an actual mail carrier who delivers mail, or is he one of the employees who work in the office, sorting mail and being a general lazy douche at the counter?

He was a mail carrier, but when he lost his license, he was reassigned to the counter. A DUI should affect your job if your job is to drive a company vehicle.. or if you are sent home multiple times for being drunk at work... or if the cops arrest you in the parking lot for being behind the wheel passed out in the company parking lot.

But, it's not his fault because alcoholism is a disease and he's a victim!!!

diethx
10-05-2013, 12:27 PM
I don't know if he was a driver or not, but the quoted says he was sent home for being drunk on the job.

Oh I didn't read it like that. I honestly had the image in my head of him sitting at night on the curb with a brown bagged bottle in his hand being drunk and stupid. I suppose that's the influence of my misspent youth, lol.


He was a mail carrier, but when he lost his license, he was reassigned to the counter. A DUI should affect your job if your job is to drive a company vehicle.. or if you are sent home multiple times for being drunk at work... or if the cops arrest you in the parking lot for being behind the wheel passed out in the company parking lot.

But, it's not his fault because alcoholism is a disease and he's a victim!!!

Ok yeah, that's all bullshit. He should have lost his job. And yes, alcoholism is a disease. But if he refuses to make any effort to get better (i.e. leaving rehab twice like you mentioned, which is basically throwing away two huge opportunities), then fuck him. The government is basically enabling him.

Tisket
10-05-2013, 02:32 PM
My employer recently fired an employee for coming to visit another employee on his own day off because he was intoxicated. The company SOP states you are subject to UA while on company property regardless of whether you are working that day or not. Failure or refusal to take the drug test is grounds for termination.

Latrinsorm
10-05-2013, 03:28 PM
An unnamed postal employee (who likely won't be a postal employee for much longer) was recently caught on a home security camera driving her delivery vehicle over the homeowner's front lawn in order to drop off a small package.

was recently caught on a home security camera

was recently caught on camera

...I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

Taernath
10-05-2013, 03:30 PM
It's a private camera on private property.

shad0ws0ngs
10-05-2013, 03:44 PM
My dad is a postal worker. Has been for about 20 years. I am amazed anyone gets mail at all, the stories he tells. His direct superior is illiterate, half his coworkers are drunk. Some punch in, go outside and sleep in their cars, and come back in to punch in. Or he was telling me yesterday about a group who go out drinking together. They came to work so they could use the phone there to call in sick, then left. And pretty much, yeah, you can't be fired for anything. The more you fuck up, the more they promote you.

Tgo01
10-05-2013, 03:46 PM
Some punch in, go outside and sleep in their cars, and come back in to punch in.

Man they are drunk.

Methais
10-05-2013, 04:28 PM
And yes, alcoholism is a disease.

No. Just...no.

How many other "diseases" are directly self-inflicted? Is being hooked on cigarettes/nicotine/caffeine/crack/etc. a disease? No. The effects of long term use can lead to disease (heart, liver, etc.) sure, but the addiction itself isn't and if they're a "victim" of anything it's of their own stupidity and lack of self control.

It's a self-inflicted condition, sure, but calling it a disease is just an excuse so that people can blame their lack of self control on something else, since everybody is a victim these days no matter what.

ON TOPIC: Holy fuck at this person. No doubt she uses the karts when she goes to Walmart too. I'd bet anything on it.

Latrinsorm
10-05-2013, 04:46 PM
No. Just...no.

How many diseases can be easily prevented by not doing something? Is being hooked on cigarettes/nicotine/caffeine/crack/etc. a disease? No. The effects of long term use can lead to disease (heart, liver, etc.) sure, but the addiction itself isn't and if there a "victim" of anything it's of their own stupidity and lack of self control.

It's a self-inflicted condition, sure, but calling it a disease is just an excuse so that people can blame their lack of self control on something else, since everybody is a victim these days no matter what.I guess you have to ask yourself whether you want to be on the side of Galileo or the Vatican. Is what you know true, or is what actual professionals in the field have demonstrated true?

Methais
10-05-2013, 04:48 PM
I guess you have to ask yourself whether you want to be on the side of Galileo or the Vatican. Is what you know true, or is what actual professionals in the field have demonstrated true?

I refuse to take anything you post seriously anymore. It's just not worth the time to figure out which is which, so I just assume none of them are serious. Even the ones that you say are serious, because even then it's still a dice roll.

Latrinsorm
10-05-2013, 05:10 PM
Well I guess I asked for that.

But then again, isn't it possible that what I say is just as likely to be worth considering when I'm messing around as when I'm serious? What makes my seriousness so relevant?

Answer me that, consiggaleakayeri.

rolfard
10-05-2013, 05:11 PM
No. Just...no.

How many other "diseases" are directly self-inflicted? Is being hooked on cigarettes/nicotine/caffeine/crack/etc. a disease? No. The effects of long term use can lead to disease (heart, liver, etc.) sure, but the addiction itself isn't and if they're a "victim" of anything it's of their own stupidity and lack of self control.

It's a self-inflicted condition, sure, but calling it a disease is just an excuse so that people can blame their lack of self control on something else, since everybody is a victim these days no matter what.

ON TOPIC: Holy fuck at this person. No doubt she uses the karts when she goes to Walmart too. I'd bet anything on it.

LOOKOUT, porn is addictive too!

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/pornography-addiction-leads-to-same-brain-activity-as-alcoholism-or-drug-abuse-study-shows-8832708.html

Methais
10-05-2013, 05:20 PM
Well I guess I asked for that.

But then again, isn't it possible that what I say is just as likely to be worth considering when I'm messing around as when I'm serious? What makes my seriousness so relevant?

Answer me that, consiggaleakayeri.

http://emob819.photobucket.com/albums/zz114/DachgaVol/207_not_sure_if_serious.jpg

Latrinsorm
10-05-2013, 05:28 PM
Dude, was he wrong?

Methais
10-05-2013, 06:08 PM
Who??

Latrinsorm
10-05-2013, 07:12 PM
If I wore a hood I would look just like Red Hood. Does that mean I deserve to be thrown into a vat of chemicals by a rich white man who supposedly works for justice but feels the need to indulge his BDSM fantasies in doing so? Not that there's anything wrong with that. And you tell me what's worse, when I kill a few people and put smiles on the faces of so many more or when Magog poisons the breadbasket of America for generations to come. You tell me.

If psychiatry was a phony science, could it have produced a genuine babe like Harleen Quinzel? QED.

diethx
10-05-2013, 07:46 PM
No. Just...no.

How many other "diseases" are directly self-inflicted? Is being hooked on cigarettes/nicotine/caffeine/crack/etc. a disease? No. The effects of long term use can lead to disease (heart, liver, etc.) sure, but the addiction itself isn't and if they're a "victim" of anything it's of their own stupidity and lack of self control.

It's a self-inflicted condition, sure, but calling it a disease is just an excuse so that people can blame their lack of self control on something else, since everybody is a victim these days no matter what.

ON TOPIC: Holy fuck at this person. No doubt she uses the karts when she goes to Walmart too. I'd bet anything on it.

For fuck's sake. Did you even bother to read the rest of my post? I didn't say alcoholics are without blame or responsibility or repercussions.

Alcoholism and other types of addiction ARE diseases. But those suffering from them are not without blame nor should they be given a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want because they suffer from a disease.

senorgordoburro
10-05-2013, 07:53 PM
At least she is part of a proud and PROFITABLE organization that could never be replaced by private companies such as UPS or FEDEX...

Parkbandit
10-05-2013, 08:02 PM
For fuck's sake. Did you even bother to read the rest of my post? I didn't say alcoholics are without blame or responsibility or repercussions.

Alcoholism and other types of addiction ARE diseases. But those suffering from them are not without blame nor should they be given a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want because they suffer from a disease.

If only the doctor could give them a shot of will power.. it would eradicate that disease for good!

Hopefully, Obamacare will finally come up with that immunization! YES WE CAN!!

Jeril
10-05-2013, 10:08 PM
dis·ease
[dih-zeez] Show IPA noun, verb, dis·eased, dis·eas·ing.
noun
1.
a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.
2.
any abnormal condition in a plant that interferes with its vital physiological processes, caused by pathogenic microorganisms, parasites, unfavorable environmental, genetic, or nutritional factors, etc.
3.
any harmful, depraved, or morbid condition, as of the mind or society: His fascination with executions is a disease.

And from the Merriam-webster I keep around my apartment - disease: an abnormal bodily condition that impairs normal functioning and can usually be recognized by signs and symptoms.


Using those definitions I can make a lot of different things out to be diseases. And the problem that people have with labeling things like a drinking problem as a disease is that a lot of others take the view that because they can't control having the problem they can't control what they do about it, they also use it as an excuse for behavior, "Oh, it isn't his fault he is that way, he can't help it." You, diethx, may say that they are to blame for not getting the help they need but a lot of other people don't take that view and it is because of that disease labeling.

Another thing is that the definition for disease is quite broad, which begs the question, where do we stop calling peoples problems diseases or disorders?

diethx
10-05-2013, 10:23 PM
You, diethx, may say that they are to blame for not getting the help they need but a lot of other people don't take that view and it is because of that disease labeling.

Well, it's not my fault some people are fucktards. It's not the word's fault either.

Latrinsorm
10-05-2013, 10:57 PM
dis·ease
[dih-zeez] Show IPA noun, verb, dis·eased, dis·eas·ing.
noun
1.
a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.
2.
any abnormal condition in a plant that interferes with its vital physiological processes, caused by pathogenic microorganisms, parasites, unfavorable environmental, genetic, or nutritional factors, etc.
3.
any harmful, depraved, or morbid condition, as of the mind or society: His fascination with executions is a disease.

And from the Merriam-webster I keep around my apartment - disease: an abnormal bodily condition that impairs normal functioning and can usually be recognized by signs and symptoms.


Using those definitions I can make a lot of different things out to be diseases. And the problem that people have with labeling things like a drinking problem as a disease is that a lot of others take the view that because they can't control having the problem they can't control what they do about it, they also use it as an excuse for behavior, "Oh, it isn't his fault he is that way, he can't help it." You, diethx, may say that they are to blame for not getting the help they need but a lot of other people don't take that view and it is because of that disease labeling.

Another thing is that the definition for disease is quite broad, which begs the question, where do we stop calling peoples problems diseases or disorders?Where the best medical science available dictates. As neither you nor Webster are medical professionals, what you can or can't make out to be diseases is immaterial.

Would you trust your self-diagnosis for cancer? I respectfully suggest you should apply the same standard for all other medical rulings, including what constitutes a disease.

Roiken
10-06-2013, 04:30 AM
not sure how this turned into an A.A meeting and don't care... if i were driving the jeep i would have placed it in the front window of this house... grill first...


ohh and god bless.

Ker_Thwap
10-06-2013, 09:10 AM
Has anyone figured out yet, this is all an ad for video surveillance equipment?

Methais
10-07-2013, 11:02 AM
For fuck's sake. Did you even bother to read the rest of my post? I didn't say alcoholics are without blame or responsibility or repercussions.

Alcoholism and other types of addiction ARE diseases. But those suffering from them are not without blame nor should they be given a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want because they suffer from a disease.

Nope. Alcoholism or any type of addiction isn't a disease. They can cause disease, but the addiction itself is not a disease.

People make a conscious decision to drink. People make a conscious decision to drink to the point of becoming an alcoholic. That's not what a disease is.

Can you make a conscious decision to not get cancer? Because cancer is a real disease. Addiction is not. Calling any addiction a disease is nothing but an excuse. And to clarify, no that doesn't mean I'm saying that you in particular aren't saying the guy is a dumbass. That wasn't the point of my last post nor is it the point of this one. But there are plenty of other people that do believe that bullshit. Just as a pre-emptive order of the calming of your mammaries, nipples included.

Is being a pedophile a disease too? Because that really isn't any different than calling alcoholism a disease.

Whirlin
10-07-2013, 11:17 AM
Nope. Alcoholism or any type of addiction isn't a disease. They can cause disease, but the addiction itself is not a disease.

People make a conscious decision to drink. People make a conscious decision to drink to the point of becoming an alcoholic. That's not what a disease is.

Can you make a conscious decision to not get cancer? Because cancer is a real disease. Addiction is not. Calling any addiction a disease is nothing but an excuse. And to clarify, no that doesn't mean I'm saying that you in particular aren't saying the guy is a dumbass. That wasn't the point of my last post nor is it the point of this one. But there are plenty of other people that do believe that bullshit. Just as a pre-emptive order of the calming of your mammaries, nipples included.

Is being a pedophile a disease too? Because that really isn't any different than calling alcoholism a disease.

While I understand the validity in your statements, by the same argument, exposing yourself to the world by leaving one's dwelling is a conscious decision, so you're actively deciding to expose yourself to germs that cause the Flu. Therefore, if you weren't so addicted to leaving your home, you wouldn't get the flu, therefore the flu is not a disease.

The effects of Alcohol are not consistent on every human. For some people, the exposure results in the spur of addictive tendencies. Similarly to how some people can be exposured to a virus and not have any ill effects, and for others it results in the sniffles.

Additionally, while I do respect your opinions... Sorry, they don't mean shit. You don't declare what's a disease or not. And the fact of the matter is that alcoholism recognized as a disease.



The American Society of Addiction Medicine and the American Medical Association both maintain extensive policy regarding alcoholism.

The American Psychiatric Association recognizes the existence of "alcoholism" as the equivalent of alcohol dependence.

The American Hospital Association, the American Public Health Association, the National Association of Social Workers, and the American College of Physicians classify "alcoholism" as a disease.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_theory_of_alcoholism

diethx
10-07-2013, 12:13 PM
It's a mental disease. Addiction is a mental disease. However, it's not one that should absolve the sufferer from all responsibility.

Also, what Whirlin said about your opinion, Methais.

Methais
10-07-2013, 12:13 PM
While I understand the validity in your statements, by the same argument, exposing yourself to the world by leaving one's dwelling is a conscious decision, so you're actively deciding to expose yourself to germs that cause the Flu. Therefore, if you weren't so addicted to leaving your home, you wouldn't get the flu, therefore the flu is not a disease.

The effects of Alcohol are not consistent on every human. For some people, the exposure results in the spur of addictive tendencies. Similarly to how some people can be exposured to a virus and not have any ill effects, and for others it results in the sniffles.

Additionally, while I do respect your opinions... Sorry, they don't mean shit. You don't declare what's a disease or not. And the fact of the matter is that alcoholism recognized as a disease.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_theory_of_alcoholism

Is being addicted to Gemstone a disease?

Wrathbringer
10-07-2013, 12:21 PM
More of a plague, really.

Latrinsorm
10-07-2013, 06:20 PM
Is being addicted to Gemstone a disease?Here's the problem with using reductio ad absurdum arguments in this context: medicine is not derived logically, it is determined empirically. There is no slippery slope in science. Einstein's Relativity said that the speed of light was constant from all frames of reference, no physicist then said "well if that's true then can we say the same for the speed of sound??? Therefore Einstein is stupid."

You are not important insofar as medical definitions are concerned. I advise you to focus on the ways you are important rather than continue to futilely shake your skinny fists like antennae at heaven, because it looks ridiculous and is copyright infringement.

Drew
10-07-2013, 06:49 PM
I like GY!BE


Edit: this is an inside reference to something Latrin referred to and thought he was being clever.

Latrinsorm
10-07-2013, 06:51 PM
I did think that, how did you know?!