Mongoose and Berserking.

[Gizmo]

Not sure if anyone else ever bothered to test it, but I found that Mongoose procs will activate while under the effects of Berserking, and with 0 RT.

I was curious about some of the stances and which one I may want to pick up for my warrior, and narrowed it down mostly to Mongoose or Griffin's Voice. Before I decided on one, I thought it be interesting to test Mongoose and see if it did in fact activate while berserking, and it did with none of the added RT.

My guy is a newb, with no parry mastery and such so my testing is limited, but I thought I'd share in case no one really tried this build/stance with berserk.

You rage across the battlefield, striking with unrelenting fury!
You swing a handaxe at a Grimswarm troll ranger!
AS: +233 vs DS: +134 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +65 = +194
... and hit for 38 points of damage!
Smooth slash to the troll ranger's hip!
Nice crunching sound.
The scintillating red light surrounding the handaxe fades some.
You swing a handaxe at a Grimswarm troll ranger!
AS: +215 vs DS: +132 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +74 = +187
... and hit for 41 points of damage!
You ripped a chunk out of the troll ranger's right leg with that one.
[You have earned enough recognition points to be eligible for promotion.]
The troll ranger falls to the ground and dies.
The light blue glow leaves a Grimswarm troll ranger.
The air calms down around a Grimswarm troll ranger.
The scintillating red light surrounding the handaxe fades some.
You swing a handaxe at a seasoned Grimswarm troll barbarian!
AS: +233 vs DS: +89 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +65 = +241
... and hit for 58 points of damage!
Stomach ripped open by mighty blow!
The scintillating red light surrounding the handaxe fades some.
You swing a handaxe at a seasoned Grimswarm troll barbarian!
AS: +215 vs DS: +85 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +20 = +182
... and hit for 27 points of damage!
Blow leaves an imprint on the troll barbarian's chest!
The scintillating red light surrounding the handaxe fades some.
You swing a handaxe at a Grimswarm troll ranger!
AS: +233 vs DS: +92 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +61 = +238
... and hit for 52 points of damage!
Hard slash to belly severs a few nerve endings.
The troll ranger is stunned!

** As you hit, your handaxe flares with a burst of fire! **

... 25 points of damage!
Burst of flames to right arm toasts skin to elbows.
The troll ranger howls in agony as the flames dance over his body!
... 30 points of damage!
Nasty burns to right leg. Gonna need lots of butter.
[You have earned enough recognition points to be eligible for promotion.]
The troll ranger falls to the ground and dies.
The air about a Grimswarm troll ranger stops shimmering.

The scintillating red light surrounding the handaxe fades some.
>
A seasoned Grimswarm troll barbarian's flesh wounds regenerate quickly.
A seasoned Grimswarm troll barbarian's right arm regenerates and looks fully healed.

A seasoned Grimswarm troll barbarian thrusts with a pilum at you!
As you parry a seasoned Grimswarm troll barbarian's attack, you see an opportunity for immediate retaliation!
You swing a handaxe at a seasoned Grimswarm troll barbarian!
AS: +233 vs DS: +85 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +58 = +238
... and hit for 44 points of damage!
Slash to the troll barbarian's shield arm!
Shears off a thin layer of skin!
The scintillating red light surrounding the handaxe fades some.
You swing a handaxe at a seasoned Grimswarm troll barbarian!
The troll barbarian evades the attack by a hair!

[Aganii]

I went with griffins voice initially while mastering warcries and ended up staying with rank 2 at 60 trains. Voice is so cheap and can provide a reliable benefit whereas mongoose can be a double edged sword. Berserking with a THW and max parry mastery is the ideal situation for mongoose since it ignores all RT but its after your zerk ends or in normal hunting conditions the extra rt could lead to death. If you could drop mongoose when in hard RT it would be brilliant. Also, there is a bug where your attack will display an error message in certain situations

[Gizmo]

I went with griffins voice initially while mastering warcries and ended up staying with rank 2 at 60 trains. Voice is so cheap and can provide a reliable benefit whereas mongoose can be a double edged sword. Berserking with a THW and max parry mastery is the ideal situation for mongoose since it ignores all RT but its after your zerk ends or in normal hunting conditions the extra rt could lead to death. If you could drop mongoose when in hard RT it would be brilliant. Also, there is a bug where your attack will display an error message in certain situations

Yeah, I read up some of the issues others had when stances came out and they did testing. I'm not entirely sure i'll be sticking with mongoose because my concern like others, is being put into RT when not zerking and just swinging away. The only upside to it is that it won't activate on stances below Forward.

I'll have to see how I like it in regards to Griffin's voice and being able to upkeep shouts more often, since these two were stances I was debating over myself.

[Anebriated]

I looked into this for my warrior as well and decided to pick it up(as well as GV). One thing I noticed is that there should always be a 1 second opportunity to get out of whatever you are doing. Mongoose maxes out at 1 swing every 3 seconds with a 2 sec RT. I havent had a chance to play around with it too much yet though.

[Jeril]

Description: This is a Martial Stance. If you successfully parry an attack while in a forward or greater stance, you will launch an automatic retaliatory strike at -2 RT. The chance to make this strike is 50/75/100% at ranks 1/2/3, and such strikes are limited to one every (6 - Rank) seconds.

-2 RT, means if you swing at 5 seconds it would be 3 seconds, and being able to preform one every 3 seconds has the potential to keep you in RT. I'd never use mongoose because in a couple of places where I hunt just having it activate once can suck some serious balls.

[SpiffyJr]

Could pick up one rank for a measly two cman points and 50% proc rate and only use it while berserking. Then stance <blah> to swap over to your regular one.

[Anebriated]

Description: This is a Martial Stance. If you successfully parry an attack while in a forward or greater stance, you will launch an automatic retaliatory strike at -2 RT. The chance to make this strike is 50/75/100% at ranks 1/2/3, and such strikes are limited to one every (6 - Rank) seconds.

-2 RT, means if you swing at 5 seconds it would be 3 seconds, and being able to preform one every 3 seconds has the potential to keep you in RT. I'd never use mongoose because in a couple of places where I hunt just having it activate once can suck some serious balls.

ah I misread that as a 2 sec rt vs the 3 sec timer.

[Ruh]

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send an exquisite crimson-hilted eahnor longsword into flight.
You throw an exquisite eahnor longsword at a Grimswarm troll ranger!
AS: +87 vs DS: +92 with AvD: +43 + d100 roll: +63 = +101
... and hit for 1 point of damage!
Thrust glances off the troll ranger's knee without a lot of effect.

** Your eahnor longsword emits a searing bolt of lightning! **

... 10 points of damage!
Mild electric jolt sends the troll ranger into spasms.
The eahnor longsword flips over, landing behind a Grimswarm troll ranger.
With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send an exquisite crimson-hilted eahnor longsword into flight.
You throw an exquisite eahnor longsword at a Grimswarm troll ranger!
AS: +87 vs DS: +92 with AvD: +43 + d100 roll: +7 = +45
A clean miss.
The eahnor longsword flies past a Grimswarm troll ranger, disappearing into the local environs.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
!R>aim clear
...wait 5 seconds.
!R>
You're now no longer aiming at anything in particular.
!R>
A Grimswarm troll ranger strides in, glowering upon the scene.
!R>
[script done]
An exquisite crimson-hilted eahnor longsword rises out of the shadows and flies back to your waiting hand!
!>
An exquisite crimson-hilted eahnor longsword rises from the ground and flies back to your waiting hand!
!>

[Aluvius]

I don't even?