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Lulfas
08-27-2013, 06:32 PM
Really?

http://dragonsofelanthia.com/playdotnet_promo.asp

Gelston
08-27-2013, 06:33 PM
omg, Dragon Stoner guy really did it.

Gelston
08-27-2013, 06:34 PM
http://dragonsofelanthia.com/riders.asp

That coming soon must be a Savant.


Also....

How much will it cost?

Dragons of Elanthia will be completely free to play! You'll be able to purchase virtual currency to buy stuff in the store, including skins and temporary boosts.

Really? Simu doing a F2P game?

Tgo01
08-27-2013, 06:39 PM
I just got an email about this, 150 simu coins for signing up. What can 150 coins get me? Like a couple of guild vouchers?

Haldrik
08-27-2013, 06:40 PM
Of course the link to enter your play.net account does not work. Typical.

Gelston
08-27-2013, 06:42 PM
Well, it is in Beta apparently.

loxe
08-27-2013, 06:43 PM
probably a phishing scheme to get your account and password

Gelston
08-27-2013, 06:44 PM
probably a phishing scheme to get your account and password

Pretty elaborate if so, seeing as account names aren't really secret and well, if it asks for your password at a non play.net web address.. You know, don't put it in there.

Tgo01
08-27-2013, 06:46 PM
You should be able to simu coins away so I could merge my coins with my 6 accounts.

Rolton-Sammich
08-27-2013, 06:46 PM
Doesn't require your password, just your account name. I did have to disable AdBlock to get that to function.

Gelston
08-27-2013, 06:47 PM
You should be able to simu coins away so I could merge my coins with my 6 accounts.

Heh, that is probably why you can't.

Tgo01
08-27-2013, 06:50 PM
Darn phone skipping words. Gelston knew what I meant.

Buckwheet
08-27-2013, 06:56 PM
I just Kitsuned their game sign up.

Kembal
08-27-2013, 06:59 PM
I'd been wondering why there wasn't any more work on Tiny Heroes. Figures.

Obviously the company isn't on its deathbed if it could develop this.

Archigeek
08-27-2013, 07:14 PM
Norton tells me to be wary, so I think I'm gonna.

senorgordoburro
08-27-2013, 07:15 PM
There is no real reason that Simu could be losing money. They have an almost volunteer team that works on their text based games, only a few real employees in billing and a couple other offices, and they can run all the text based games on low bandwith and cheap equipment considering the games was designed to be run in the 90's. I'm pretty sure my drawer of old cell phones could support a large majority of the Simu workload.

senorgordoburro
08-27-2013, 07:17 PM
Side note, I wonder if this will allow for dragon themed alters in GS... it is Elanthia after all.

Velfi
08-27-2013, 07:24 PM
Dragon Flight Physics !!!

Just what I've been anxiously awaiting.

NinjasLeadTheWay
08-27-2013, 07:32 PM
It's a trap!

Latrinsorm
08-27-2013, 07:54 PM
Someone at Simu needs to just delete the "Coming soon!" graphic. Just stop.

The gameplay looks surprisingly good considering... you know.

Tgo01
08-27-2013, 07:55 PM
The gameplay looks surprisingly good considering... you know.

Considering you have yet to figure out the bard song renewal formula?

Drew
08-27-2013, 08:03 PM
Side note, I wonder if this will allow for dragon themed alters in GS... it is Elanthia after all.

Nah, dragons happen in the future, one of the moons is actually an egg or something and cracks open and out comes dragons. I dunno, read the dragonrealms lore it's something like that.

senorgordoburro
08-27-2013, 08:14 PM
Nah, dragons happen in the future, one of the moons is actually an egg or something and cracks open and out comes dragons. I dunno, read the dragonrealms lore it's something like that.

Stop reading about lore and sell me your shit.

Latrinsorm
08-27-2013, 09:06 PM
Considering you have yet to figure out the bard song renewal formula?I had just logged onto the PC for the first time in months because of this amazing new game, and also to post that formula, but because of that lip now I'm not going to. Hope you're happy.

subzero
08-27-2013, 09:43 PM
Norton tells me to be wary, so I think I'm gonna.

Norton is a dumbass.

Tgo01
08-27-2013, 10:55 PM
I had just logged onto the PC for the first time in months because of this amazing new game, and also to post that formula, but because of that lip now I'm not going to. Hope you're happy.

:(

tallkris3
08-27-2013, 11:17 PM
Anyone get the 150 coins already credited?

senorgordoburro
08-27-2013, 11:40 PM
I got it

Moonwitch
08-27-2013, 11:56 PM
The movie looks pretty good. Oh and I have dragon alters, are they hard to get?

Moonwitch
08-28-2013, 12:01 AM
It's legit. Someone posted on Simu's officials and got a thanks to the good luck. Wow.

Dayko
08-28-2013, 12:26 AM
Thanks to the free simucoins, I can now buy me a death sting salve!

Gelston
08-28-2013, 07:11 AM
Just got this, heh.


We Want You Back!

Be one of the first to check out our new game.

Thank you for the love, loyalty and support you've shown us throughout the years.

While you've been away, we have been working on an awesome new game: Dragons of Elanthia, an online multiplayer aerial combat game... with actual freaking dragons! If flying dragons around and blasting your enemies out of the skies sounds great to you, check out our website.

If you visit the Dragons of Elanthia website and enter your play.net account name*, you'll receive 150 SimuCoins for your trouble. These coins can be used to purchase a plethora of virtual goodies in Dragons of Elanthia once the game launches (or they can also be used in GemStone IV and DragonRealms now).

So whether you're interested in flying dragons around or just want some free SimuCoins, visit the Dragons of Elanthia website. While you're there, you can even sign up for the beta!

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Warriorbird
08-28-2013, 08:34 AM
There is no real reason that Simu could be losing money. They have an almost volunteer team that works on their text based games, only a few real employees in billing and a couple other offices, and they can run all the text based games on low bandwith and cheap equipment considering the games was designed to be run in the 90's. I'm pretty sure my drawer of old cell phones could support a large majority of the Simu workload.

Cocaine explains everything.

Atlanteax
08-28-2013, 10:00 AM
Cocaine explains everything.

Heh.

Jace Solo
08-28-2013, 10:11 AM
Nah, dragons happen in the future, one of the moons is actually an egg or something and cracks open and out comes dragons. I dunno, read the dragonrealms lore it's something like that.

1) I think you are trying to tell me that DragonRealms is Future Gemstone? When do we get that update? lol.
2) I think you're thinking of DragonLance... dragons from the moon egg. Granted, it's been a long time since I've read that series.

Haldrik
08-28-2013, 11:45 AM
1) I think you are trying to tell me that DragonRealms is Future Gemstone? When do we get that update? lol.
2) I think you're thinking of DragonLance... dragons from the moon egg. Granted, it's been a long time since I've read that series.

What?? There is no Dragons in Dragonrealms. How dare you make that assumption.

Gelston
08-28-2013, 11:45 AM
1) I think you are trying to tell me that DragonRealms is Future Gemstone? When do we get that update? lol.
2) I think you're thinking of DragonLance... dragons from the moon egg. Granted, it's been a long time since I've read that series.

DR is Elanthia way in the future, yes. And yes, the moon is a dragon egg or some crap.

Loyrl
08-28-2013, 02:55 PM
Interesting, they should allow subscribers to get into beta.

Donquix
08-28-2013, 04:29 PM
DR has always been the future Elanthia. It was never updated, it's been like that since it was released.

keatsr
08-28-2013, 04:50 PM
Frankly this game just looks ridiculous to me. I'm not sure but is this actually intended to "draw people"?
Perhaps I am simply too old but considering the wealth of complex, deep, and avant garde games being produced in the world why would this game actually engage anyone?

Donquix
08-28-2013, 05:55 PM
if it has dragons, magic, and plays similarly to something like starfox multiplayer?

Yes. Sometimes you want something quick and easy, people don't have the time or inclination to play something like Last of Us every time they sit down. reference: the app store

Latrinsorm
08-28-2013, 05:57 PM
Go to all-range mode!

Kembal
08-29-2013, 10:47 PM
Battle arena games appear to be a significant part of gaming. There's Smite, for example. Simu's just trying to cash in on it, although they're late, as usual.

Askip
08-30-2013, 08:35 AM
Side note, I wonder if this will allow for dragon themed alters in GS... it is Elanthia after all.

Do pearl dragons count?

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?1898-What-Are-You-Wearing/page5

:D

On topic - has anyone at Simu verified the validity of the new link?

Askip
08-30-2013, 09:04 AM
It seems to be legit, IGN has posted the trailer on youtube and the comments are hilariou...err...interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3FiH6S32uk

:D

Nathala Crane
08-30-2013, 09:21 AM
It seems to be legit, IGN has posted the trailer on youtube and the comments are hilariou...err...interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3FiH6S32uk

:D

Richard Neeves 1 day ago
Whoever made this game should be shit

I know it's a typo, but LOL.

DO A BARREL ROLL.

Methais
08-30-2013, 01:12 PM
Dragons that shoot missiles, barely even PS2 graphics, and flying at what appears to be a safe 25 mph?

I can't wait to not play this. Simu should be embarrassed to be showing this in 2013.

Stop doing cocaine and invest in real tech.

Taernath
08-30-2013, 02:29 PM
At least Simu finally made the jump from fifth generation graphics (lolCyberStrike) to... maybe 6th generation. Exciting stuff. We can no longer say Simu is stuck in the 90's, they have clearly embraced early 2000's technology. In another 20 years they could be at PS3 level, and GS4 might finally go F2P.

Latrinsorm
08-30-2013, 05:06 PM
A cynical person might say they are intentionally releasing a terrible f2p game so that when it fails they can say "see? f2p isn't a workable business model for us!"

diethx
08-30-2013, 05:18 PM
Jeez, that looks so awful.

Gelston
08-30-2013, 05:19 PM
I think it will be a historic milestone in gaming that begins in new era for humanity.

Fortybox
08-30-2013, 07:06 PM
I think it will be a historic milestone in gaming that begins in new era for humanity.

That would mean Simu is important...which it isn't.

Methais
08-30-2013, 07:21 PM
That would mean Simu is important...which it isn't.

I think he means in a similar way that Superman 64 also began a new era for humanity.

Gelston
08-30-2013, 07:39 PM
I think he means in a similar way that Superman 64 also began a new era for humanity.

It was indeed a bleak world before that masterpiece was crafted by the gods and gifted to humanity.

Nathala Crane
08-30-2013, 10:47 PM
I think he means in a similar way that Superman 64 also began a new era for humanity.

Flying through rings is one of many overlooked powers at Superman's disposal.

Tylec
09-01-2013, 10:20 PM
1) I think you are trying to tell me that DragonRealms is Future Gemstone? When do we get that update? lol.
2) I think you're thinking of DragonLance... dragons from the moon egg. Granted, it's been a long time since I've read that series.

In DR one of the moons was actually an egg that hatched the World Dragon, the World Dragon then laid waste to Elanthia and then was sung to sleep by one of the goddesses in the world. This is what led people to assume DR was the same Elanthia simply thousands of years following GS, after the world rebuilt.


Now I'm going to go hang myself in my closet for remembering that.

Gelston
09-01-2013, 10:34 PM
Well, and DR's original name was to be Gemstone IV.

Taernath
09-01-2013, 10:38 PM
Now I'm going to go hang myself in my closet for remembering that.

You're on a board about a 20+ year old text MUD where your peers are all about D&D fantasy type stuff. I'm more surprised that some people apparently didn't know that.

Thondalar
09-01-2013, 10:55 PM
2) I think you're thinking of DragonLance... dragons from the moon egg. Granted, it's been a long time since I've read that series.

My turn on the nerd-go-round...

Krynn (the world Dragonlance is based in) does have three moons (Solinari, Lunitari, and Nuitari) but they each House the specific deities that grant powers to wizards on Krynn, being the White robes(good), Red Robes(neutral), and Black Robes(evil), respectively. As far as I know there were never any dragon eggs on any of these moons, although there is a more recent novel by Weiss and Hickman called "Dragons of A Vanished Moon" that I haven't read yet. I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the original series, where good dragon eggs were taken to create Draconians.


edit: were being? really?

Rolton-Sammich
10-28-2013, 10:51 PM
Okay, who's itching to Kickstart this? Fess up.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/simutronics/dragons-of-elanthia?src=beta

Tgo01
10-28-2013, 11:08 PM
Okay, who's itching to Kickstart this? Fess up.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/simutronics/dragons-of-elanthia?src=beta

Simu really has the nerve to ask for a kickstarter for anything? Don't they make like 200,000 dollars a month in GS subscriptions?

I'm exaggerating. Slightly.

Haldrik
10-28-2013, 11:13 PM
Okay, who's itching to Kickstart this? Fess up.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/simutronics/dragons-of-elanthia?src=beta

What the fuck... Why are they asking for Kickstarter when their game looks basically finished. That's not how shit works!

Tgo01
10-28-2013, 11:17 PM
Granted I don't read a lot of kickstarter pages but don't people usually receive something tangible when they donate a high amount, like 50 dollars plus? Even video games you usually get a copy of the game.

Everything Simu is offering is virtual and most of it is just virtual currency and adding your name to some list. Talk about a cash grab.


As experienced game developers we know that there are always potential snags in the production timeline, especially as we continue to add new environments, dragons and riders to the mix. We don’t foresee any particular trouble but it’s possible that the finished product could take longer than expected.

Those poor people on kickstarter have no idea of Simu's famous "RSN" timeline :(

Haldrik
10-28-2013, 11:35 PM
Granted I don't read a lot of kickstarter pages but don't people usually receive something tangible when they donate a high amount, like 50 dollars plus? Even video games you usually get a copy of the game.


Yeah, they aren't giving away a free game because it's free to play.

Also, I think we should have a discussion of David Wheatleys interview on the kickstarter video. It's really kind of funny. He talks about wanting to make it free to play because for online games you have to have players and it's important to have a lot of them... Really? I'd like to see him apply that logic elsewhere before asking for $200K for a game that already looks finished.

It's also fucking hilarious that they don't mention why they want a kickstar until the verrryy end. And then it's like "infrastructure, more dragons."

Tgo01
10-28-2013, 11:37 PM
Yeah, they aren't giving away a free game because it's free to play.

I realize that but there is usually something, a freaking t-shirt or coffee mug or something.

Also 1:22 mark on the video.

"Good news is it's going to be free to play. Bad news is.......it's going to be hard to make a profit <20 seconds of eerie laughter.>

Does this guy think we're stupid? Like they won't be making money off this game because it's free to play?

Haldrik
10-28-2013, 11:52 PM
I realize that but there is usually something, a freaking t-shirt or coffee mug or something.

Also 1:22 mark on the video.

"Good news is it's going to be free to play. Bad news is.......it's going to be hard to make a profit <20 seconds of eerie laughter.>

Does this guy think we're stupid? Like they won't be making money off this game because it's free to play?

Yeah, the first tier is pretty shitty. But the rest looks like they just give you in game cash... Also, don't you want a cool forum avatar? Cause like... people that want to play an FPS will be on the forums a lot.

And his FTP rant, yeah I thought it was super awkward too. He's so fucking delusional and behind the times. Everyone knows that free to play makes a shit load of money now. League of Legends made that VERY clear. So, let's not try and hide the ball here.

Kalishar
10-28-2013, 11:59 PM
Kickstarter for Simu? No thanks.

I already give them too much money for what I get. Do I enjoy this game? Yep. Do I think I'm overpaying? Absolutely.

BriarFox
10-29-2013, 12:09 AM
The Kickstarter perks are essentially useless unless you want a custom title. Completely underwhelming.

Gsgeek
10-29-2013, 04:00 AM
Completely insulting actually. Figuires simu would turn something usually good in nature into a chance for a cash grab.

Methais
10-29-2013, 05:13 AM
I thought RtCF was the kickstarter.

Moonwitch
10-29-2013, 07:36 AM
Maybe Simy needs to make some game like free Candy Crush if they want money. That thing makes like 600k a day in $1 dollar extra moves.

Donquix
10-29-2013, 08:03 AM
Maybe Simy needs to make some game like free Candy Crush if they want money. That thing makes like 600k a day in $1 dollar extra moves.

They did. They made a tower defense clone and a temple run clone. They're on the cutting edge.

Taernath
10-29-2013, 08:14 AM
Why are there several tiers that have the same rewards but a price difference of $5?

Also the titles will allow for easy identification of those deserving of ridicule. I already see a Relic Hunter, who will be the first DRAGONLORD???

Taernath
10-29-2013, 08:52 AM
Also 1:22 mark on the video.

"Good news is it's going to be free to play. Bad news is.......it's going to be hard to make a profit <20 seconds of eerie laughter.>

Does this guy think we're stupid? Like they won't be making money off this game because it's free to play?

Man this video is full of great quotes.

0:46 - "Going back... YEARS, I've noticed that dragons and riders show up in fantasy fiction, show up in movies, and it's cool to see, but no game really ever focused on it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_Dragoon_(series))"

4:35: - "Well as you can see, the game is really far along already. We get the question why Kickstarter? Why now? There's a lot of work left to be done. It's beautiful, it's playable, but we have to be sure we can scale it out so we can get as many players in as possible. We have to scale worldwide so we can get players in from everywhere. This takes a lot of infrastructure, it takes a lot of money to do that sort of thing. And the other question is why use Kickstarter at all? We need to make sure we do it right, and the only way to do it is if we maintain control. This has to be pure. It has to be a dragon flight simulator ... and the only way to do that is for fans of this type of game to kick in and help us."

Warriorbird
10-29-2013, 09:05 AM
Maybe Whatley was the dragon guy.

Donquix
10-29-2013, 09:15 AM
Maybe Whatley was the dragon guy.

or was he a man?
or was he a dragon?
or was he a DRAGON MAN? WHATLEEEEEEY.

Atlanteax
10-29-2013, 10:14 AM
"Dumb" just about sums it up.

Methais
10-29-2013, 10:20 AM
Man this video is full of great quotes.

0:46 - "Going back... YEARS, I've noticed that dragons and riders show up in fantasy fiction, show up in movies, and it's cool to see, but no game really ever focused on it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_Dragoon_(series))"

And this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lair_%28video_game%29) and I'm sure a plethora of other games.


4:35: - "Well as you can see, the game is really far along already. We get the question why Kickstarter? Why now? There's a lot of work left to be done. It's beautiful, it's playable, but we have to be sure we can scale it out so we can get as many players in as possible. We have to scale worldwide so we can get players in from everywhere. This takes a lot of infrastructure, it takes a lot of money to do that sort of thing. And the other question is why use Kickstarter at all? We need to make sure we do it right, and the only way to do it is if we maintain control. This has to be pure. It has to be a dragon flight simulator ... and the only way to do that is for fans of this type of game to kick in and help us."

Wouldn't kickfinisher be the more appropriate term then?

I wonder who he thinks is stupid enough to buy into this bullshit he's spewing?

I wonder who actually is stupid enough to buy into this bullshit he's spewing?

Cocaine.

Narthsin
10-29-2013, 12:13 PM
What the hell is he wearing? I mean... just wow. "Hi guyz, I'm gonna ask you for $200,000 but don't mind the thriftstore T-shirt I rolled out of bed in this morning. Herpaderp, I don't know how we're going to make any money, even though league of legends makes bank."

Agreed about the creepy laughter, and creepy staff in general. Even the dragon lady who's probably the best on the video is kind of yikes.

Tgo01
10-30-2013, 03:21 PM
just pledged 500$ hope you make it, although the goal is pretty high. Why is it 200k instead of 50 to 100k as other KS?


The goal will make sure that we cover all the infrastructure needs to be accessible to players, not just from the US, but also Europe and even Asia. It will also allow cover the art needs for more dragons, more riders, and more maps for everyone to enjoy.

So it sounds like to me the game is basically done they just want to be able to penetrate (heh) every market from the beginning instead of starting small and expanding.

Isn't this like the exact opposite of what kickstarter is supposed to be for?

Drew
10-30-2013, 04:01 PM
Compare this to the Star Citizen kickstarter and you'll see what a good kickstarter looks like and then load up this one and you'll see what a bad one looks like. No concrete goals, poor sales pitch, and the worst part about it is the pledge tiers are awful.


EDIT: I'm going to try the game out anyway, I do hope the occulus rift support works. The kickstarter just sucks.

Latrinsorm
10-30-2013, 04:05 PM
I don't understand how a company that runs multiple text-based games has such poorly written statements.

Taernath
10-30-2013, 04:25 PM
Did you guys see the latest screenshots?

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/dtbrown082/screen_zps01e4397e.jpg

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/panzerdragoon/pd-1.jpg

Tgo01
10-30-2013, 04:34 PM
Did you guys see the latest screenshots?

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/dtbrown082/screen_zps01e4397e.jpg

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/panzerdragoon/pd-1.jpg

Well heck I didn't see those screen shots, let me donate 10k right now.

Taernath
10-30-2013, 04:41 PM
For that they should name the game after you.

Tgo: The Dragoning

Haldrik
10-30-2013, 04:58 PM
Did you guys see the latest screenshots?

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/dtbrown082/screen_zps01e4397e.jpg

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/panzerdragoon/pd-1.jpg

Lol... whats the first shot of?

Tgo01
10-30-2013, 05:02 PM
Looks like a blood elf riding a red dragon.

Haldrik
10-30-2013, 05:12 PM
Looks like a blood elf riding a red dragon.

Nah those shots are from a different game. The second one is Panzer.

Tgo01
10-30-2013, 05:15 PM
I think it's Wrath of the Lich King.

Atlanteax
10-30-2013, 05:16 PM
First screenshot is World of Warcraft ... at the Dragon temple in Northrend.

Donquix
10-30-2013, 07:04 PM
WotLK wow riding a red dragon during the daily quest at the temple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBDlcenf74E

Methais
10-30-2013, 07:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zhp7ACi.jpg

Solomon got PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Also what's up with this game starting out in January and being nearing finish now, but they take decades to come out with a new feature or spell in a text game?

EDIT: Who wants to bet that all 33 views this video got were from this thread?

EDIT EDIT: 34 if you include me.

Rolton-Sammich
10-30-2013, 08:44 PM
Whatever, haters... this game looks badass.

http://i.imgur.com/0T5uIZq.png

Warriorbird
10-30-2013, 10:43 PM
Wow. I actually watched the video. It's a nice dragon artist, some coders, slightly odd concept artist guy, and somebody who hasn't been out in public in a long long time who's actually making the pitch. Tracy Butler should have made it because it seems like she has a soul.

HouseofElves
11-03-2013, 10:12 AM
I feel so bad for the people who backed this and don't know anything about Simu or the way they operate. Though, that video should scare most people away.

Haldrik
11-03-2013, 03:14 PM
I feel so bad for the people who backed this and don't know anything about Simu or the way they operate. Though, that video should scare most people away.

I seriously doubt it will fund.

NinjasLeadTheWay
11-03-2013, 03:22 PM
I seriously doubt it will fund.

I don't know who they could market this to that would like it. It reminds of me of the first time I tried to fly a jet in Battlefield 3. Except, Battlefield 3 was actually a good game.

Rolton-Sammich
11-03-2013, 03:23 PM
I seriously doubt it will fund.

They were idiots to put funding so high, unless they genuinely need $200k to make or break the game.

It's looking, uh, not so great. http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/simutronics/dragons-of-elanthia/#chart-exp-projection

Methais
11-03-2013, 03:25 PM
I don't know who they could market this to that would like it. It reminds of me of the first time I tried to fly a jet in Battlefield 3. Except, Battlefield 3 was actually a good game.

This game doesn't seem to have a sense of speed at any altitude. Flying around on a mount in WoW seems like it'd be more exciting.

They should take a page from the original Warhawk game on PS1 where it always felt like you were flying really fast no matter how high up you were. Or the fighter jets in GTA V.

Flying games where you always feel like you're going slow are destined to never be any fun.

Latrinsorm
11-03-2013, 04:45 PM
At the same time, dogfighting at actual jet speeds is really, really, really hard, no matter how much one feels the need.

The need for exceptional hand-eye coordination and reaction time.

Also the dragon's wings would rip right off, and I'm not playing a magical dragon game if it plays fast and loose with the laws of aerodynamics.

Taernath
11-03-2013, 04:54 PM
They were idiots to put funding so high, unless they genuinely need $200k to make or break the game.

It's looking, uh, not so great. http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/simutronics/dragons-of-elanthia/#chart-exp-projection

They said the game is more or less complete, they just needed the money to 'set up worldwide infrastructure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine)'.

Atlanteax
11-04-2013, 12:19 PM
I feel so bad for the people who backed this and don't know anything about Simu or the way they operate.

This, especially.

Taernath
11-13-2013, 07:44 AM
Guys. GUYS! THERE IS A DRAGON MASTER ($10,000 pledge)!

Is it Whatley? Or is it someone who chose that option because they thought it would be funny and the project would never be funded anyway? I say we harness the economic might of the PC to get it funded, so that guy will have to lose $10,000.

Warriorbird
11-13-2013, 08:25 AM
Guys. GUYS! THERE IS A DRAGON MASTER ($10,000 pledge)!

Is it Whatley? Or is it someone who chose that option because they thought it would be funny and the project would never be funded anyway? I say we harness the economic might of the PC to get it funded, so that guy will have to lose $10,000.

Though we've probably given him $200,000 in blow and NSXes we're more likely to give it to Levar Burton when he doesn't deserve it.

Taernath
11-13-2013, 08:43 AM
Levar Burton has a blank check when it comes to blow and NSXes as far as I'm concerned.

Rolton-Sammich
11-13-2013, 10:15 AM
Guys. GUYS! THERE IS A DRAGON MASTER ($10,000 pledge)!

http://media0.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

Johnny Five
11-13-2013, 04:08 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/81526104.gif

Gelston
11-16-2013, 07:42 PM
So, got an alpha test code for this today. Anyone else in there?

Methais
11-16-2013, 08:11 PM
They're streaming it now at www.twitch.tv/simutronics

Gelston
11-16-2013, 08:26 PM
I just died like 6 times, mostly from running into Lava and Walls.

I didn't feel like coming up with a name, so I was just LSU. When I'd die from said wall crashing it would say LSU just crashed and burned. It mirrors the LSU football program this year quite well!

Warriorbird
11-16-2013, 08:42 PM
I just died like 6 times, mostly from running into Lava and Walls.

I didn't feel like coming up with a name, so I was just LSU. When I'd die from said wall crashing it would say LSU just crashed and burned. It mirrors the LSU football program this year quite well!

It's really bad when my student who's parents were Ole Miss professors gets to mock me about it.

Taernath
11-16-2013, 08:46 PM
That fucking laugh everytime someone dies, goddamn.

Gelston
11-16-2013, 09:16 PM
I hooked up my XBox controller. It is a lot better than the keyboard. Still use the mouse to look and shoot though. It is an odd arrangement. I still suck at the game, but I think if I keep playing it like this I'll get better. Controlling it became a lot easier after I hooked in the xbox controller.

CaptContagious
11-16-2013, 09:35 PM
anyone have an issue installing and running this shit? i keep getting this after installing and clicking on the exe in the dir.

There should be 'DragonsOfElanthia_Data'
folder next to the executable

Gelston
11-16-2013, 09:46 PM
anyone have an issue installing and running this shit? i keep getting this after installing and clicking on the exe in the dir.

There should be 'DragonsOfElanthia_Data'
folder next to the executable

Run the DRAGONSOFELANTHIATEST file that should be just below it. It is the launcher and needs to DL more stuff

Sherlock
11-16-2013, 09:46 PM
Worked fine installing for me and I'm running it in VMWare since I'm a mac user. Works perfectly fine. I've never done flight simulators and therefore I'm terrible at flying. If there was an award for killing yourself I'd most likely win it at this point.

CaptContagious
11-16-2013, 09:47 PM
so yeah having LICH installed into my launcher is what was fucking it up. FYI

Gelston
11-16-2013, 09:47 PM
The K button instantly wins you the match!

SHAFT
11-16-2013, 09:49 PM
Is the game any good?

Gelston
11-16-2013, 09:53 PM
Is the game any good?

There isn't much depth to it, it is pretty much fly around and kill other dudes on other dragons, quite a few bugs (especially with sound). The controls are difficult initially, you can hook up a controller for flight and such, but I'd still recommend the mouse for looking and shooting. It is alpha though, so who knows how much the game will or won't improve by Beta and then by release.

Ardwen
11-16-2013, 09:58 PM
its bugged hah, cant even get into it as none of the ways to play actually appear after install for me, and others apparently

Gizmo
11-17-2013, 12:48 AM
Got a key too, but like hell am I going to use it. Silly game!

Sherlock
11-17-2013, 08:46 AM
I wonder how many they ended giving out.

Ardwen
11-17-2013, 12:37 PM
all I know is it didnt work with my lich install and I didnt wanna play with it to adjust it

Jhynnifer
11-17-2013, 12:53 PM
I got in, but pretty much everything text-wise is impossible to read so I only played with it a little. Then every time I joined a fight the screen split in two and it was nothing but tearing so I gave up.

Allereli
11-17-2013, 01:52 PM
I managed to play with 2 GS accounts running lich simultaneously last night. I crashed my dragon a lot and it's kind of funny when the rider falls off and dies. I spent some time reconfiguring the controls and did a little better.

HouseofElves
11-20-2013, 07:35 PM
The controls are extremely unforgiving. Also, the first key command in the menu is suiciding.

TheEschaton
11-24-2013, 09:21 PM
So...apparently TB, one of the most well known Youtube video game critics...ENDORSED this game? Right from their kickstarter:

"It's really cool and it's really fun to play, and actually quite innovative ... I was impressed with Dragons of Elanthia."
TotalBiscuit, The Cynical Brit

That can't be real. This is the type of game TB would just shit all over.

Warriorbird
11-24-2013, 09:34 PM
Whatley gave him hookers and blow?

Gelston
11-24-2013, 09:59 PM
TotalBiscuit is well known as an opinionated douche bag too.

TheEschaton
11-24-2013, 10:21 PM
Yeah, and he's known as that for shitting on shitty games.

Taernath
11-24-2013, 10:41 PM
For the full quote/review/whatever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiglWza5WtQ&t=1m45s

Drew
11-24-2013, 10:48 PM
For the full quote/review/whatever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiglWza5WtQ&t=1m45s


Maybe he sees an alpha with promise, that's the thing I wrote in my thread about streaming it, this game isn't hopeless, it's just not fun. If they spend the time to polish and fix a few design flaws (the free look, the levels being disorientating) it could be a fun game.

Methais
11-24-2013, 10:52 PM
I just want another X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter.

And Road Rash Online.

petiteSylvan
11-24-2013, 11:10 PM
it's just not fun. If they spend the time to polish and fix a few design flaws (the free look, the levels being disorientating) it could be a fun game.

I spent fifteen minutes trying to play this. It ISN'T fun. At all. I'm embarrassed for them. Stick to text games!

Drew
11-24-2013, 11:23 PM
I spent fifteen minutes trying to play this. It ISN'T fun. At all. I'm embarrassed for them. Stick to text games!

Yeah that's why I said in my other thread, they've taken something that's supposed to be incredible - flying a dragon - and taken all the joy out of it.

Gelston
11-24-2013, 11:23 PM
Yeah, and he's known as that for shitting on shitty games.

Eh, worse than that. He calls his followers stupid and all that mess. There is a bunch of stuff about him on google floating around that I don't feel like digging up.

Gelston
11-24-2013, 11:24 PM
Yeah that's why I said in my other thread, they've taken something that's supposed to be incredible - flying a dragon - and taken all the joy out of it.

Well, it is alpha. I think the game needs stuff like a leveling system and such. Something that makes it more than just a dragon shooter... And who knows what else they may or may not have planned.

Drew
11-24-2013, 11:36 PM
Well, it is alpha. I think the game needs stuff like a leveling system and such. Something that makes it more than just a dragon shooter... And who knows what else they may or may not have planned.

The problem isn't levels, it's the engine. They need to make changes at a design level. I made a list of what they need to do/fix here: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?86999-Streaming-Dragons-of-Elanthia-gameplay&p=1611543#post1611543

petiteSylvan
11-24-2013, 11:49 PM
I felt like I was playing a game from the 90's. And yes, just flying a dragon, shooting things - seriously? In 2013? I DO hope they have more to come with this, not that I plan on playing it.

TheEschaton
11-25-2013, 12:13 AM
After seeing the video on the quote, I can see why someone like TB would like it. He's all about arena brawlers, quick dip-in, dip-out PvP style games. I guess that's not gelling with GSIV's main target audience, mmm?

He likes flight sims, though, so for him to say it's far more complex than World of Warplanes (same guys as World of Tanks) is...bizarre. Because I don't associate complex engines doing innovative things with Simutronics. After all, they made the Hero Engine. :P

Gelston
11-25-2013, 12:39 AM
The problem isn't levels, it's the engine. They need to make changes at a design level. I made a list of what they need to do/fix here: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?86999-Streaming-Dragons-of-Elanthia-gameplay&p=1611543#post1611543

I don't necessarily mean levels, but something that gives a sense of advancement other than leader boards or whatever.

Taernath
03-13-2014, 12:37 PM
The 'dragon riding' genre has a new challenger:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ySY3yiYXw4

How will Simu respond to this threat to their intellectual property?

Tgo01
03-13-2014, 12:41 PM
How will Simu respond to this threat to their intellectual property?

I'm gonna say by raising the monthly subscription cost of GS.

SHAFT
03-13-2014, 12:54 PM
Looks like LoL with dragons.

Atlanteax
03-13-2014, 01:53 PM
The 'dragon riding' genre has a new challenger:

(video)

How will Simu respond to this threat to their intellectual property?

You underestimate the amount of sloth that exists at SIMU.

Methais
03-13-2014, 02:04 PM
The 'dragon riding' genre has a new challenger:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ySY3yiYXw4

How will Simu respond to this threat to their intellectual property?

They'll raise the price of DoE from F2P to $60 + still pay for items.

Taernath
10-11-2014, 10:52 AM
I remembered this game and went back to take a look at its progress.

The last news update was almost a year ago.

Has it been cancelled?

Gelston
10-11-2014, 11:08 AM
I remembered this game and went back to take a look at its progress.

The last news update was almost a year ago.

Has it been cancelled?


Probably. They didn't get their kick starter funded and even then, it looked like a game from 2002.

JackWhisper
10-11-2014, 11:12 AM
*types and then deletes witticisms about how terrible Simu is*

Just.... no fun doing it when it's fact. Sigh.

Pathetic.

JackWhisper
10-11-2014, 11:14 AM
How many 8 balls would 200k have bought Whatley?

Luftstreitkräfte
10-11-2014, 11:42 AM
If they made that game more around the Dota 2 concept I think it could have been a hit.

JackWhisper
10-11-2014, 11:47 AM
This isn't the first aerial MOBA-esque game that has been introduced.

They've all flopped, and for good reason. With as intense as most MOBA games go, introducing aerial mechanics and directional combat is a bit over the top for the average gamer.

Taernath
10-11-2014, 12:19 PM
Probably. They didn't get their kick starter funded and even then, it looked like a game from 2002.

They said in one of those videos that the game was more or less done, and the kickstarter was for 'marketing'. :lol: It's not on Steam Greenlight anymore, either. Simu lied, and videogames died.

If it were truly cancelled though I'd expect the entire website to be taken down, but their wording makes it seem like it's on the backest of burners, behind even Savants.

As far as MOBAs, that market is really saturated and SIMU doesn't have anywhere near the skills needed to get something like that off the ground.

Androidpk
10-11-2014, 01:01 PM
Gemstone V is the top priority right now.