RTCF 2nd Run Tickets

[crb]

Who got one?

I managed to nab 7 this time.

[Ardwen]

7 in 4 seconds is impressive I must say

[nocturnix]

Well looks like i fucked up the timezone somehow. Le sigh. Here we go again.

[Shimeria]

Finally got one! This is my first one, was getting nervous I would never get one ticket.

[Jarvan]

Who got one?

I managed to nab 7 this time.

Only 7? Your slacking crb. I was expecting you to be the only one there.

[Vrairdrick]

I've not had any luck. Me and my daughter sitting hitting refresh....le sigh as well

[nocturnix]

I hate this, seriously i hate it. I had like 10 alarms and notifications set for 1 hour from now...I calculated the timezone and everything. UGH!!!!!

[Terzl]

No luck here either. Came close.. saw the open list for one second but didn't hit SIGNUP fast enough.

[Jarvan]

I got the internal 500 error message again as I clicked purchase ticket. Was only 2 people listed at the time.

[nocturnix]

Are these premium only tickets?

[Thondalar]

I made it to character selection.

[Shimeria]

Premium for this 25...tonight I think is open to all and than another 50 tomorrow which is open to basic as well.

[Terzl]

Are these premium only tickets?

Yes, 50 total for today.
Tomorrow the other 50 go on sale for everyone.

[Lord Orbstar]

dont suppose you would sell one for 100 buck...

[crb]

I'm going on vacation as of now and will not be offering services to buy tickets for the rest of this run, but if anyone wants to pay me to buy a ticket for run 3, its 10m, payable in advance, refundable if I fail. Obviously you must trust me with your account information, but I'm trustworthy, I've gotten tickets for others this way.

[Jarvan]

dont suppose you would sell one for 100 buck...

Well.. IF crb managed to get 7 tickets, I seriously doubt he will sell any. Tho he may have gotten them for other people. it's likely a joke. If not, he got one hell of a program.

[Ardwen]

seems the majority of people will never get tickets, this is the single worst system they could have chosen for ticket release

[Jarvan]

seems the majority of people will never get tickets, this is the single worst system they could have chosen for ticket release

Wrong Ardwen.. it is FAIR to all. Didn't you read the officials?

[Terzl]

seems the majority of people will never get tickets, this is the single worst system they could have chosen for ticket release

Heh, +1.

Here's the thing: I was pretty damn fast on this one and didn't really have more than half a second. It took too long to move my hand to the mouse! Hah..
I'm dying to know who is picking up these tickets.. they must be F-A-S-T!

[SHAFT]

I got 2! I'm about to be rich bitch!

[nocturnix]

seems the majority of people will never get tickets, this is the single worst system they could have chosen for ticket release

Yep, this was the worst fuckup ive seen yet in GS. If I dont manage to get a ticket tonight, I will deactivate my accounts to make a point. Even if you plan everything, have the money, are a premium subscriber, and sit there ready to buy the ticket. You still have very little chance of getting one against scripters. That is absolute fail for the game community.

[tyrant-201]

Who got one?

I managed to nab 7 this time.

Either you're full of shit, or a piece of shit. Which one is it?

[Xeta]

Seven tickets seems like raping the system. I understand wanting to capitalize on a situation, but this is a game where people should be able to go to events without d-bags cornering the whole market on tickets.

[nocturnix]

What does it say eastern time is currently 11:15....??? Oh, apparently they meant EDT? (eastern daylight savings time)....would have helped me greatly instead of just saying ET.

[SHAFT]

I'm going to call bullshit on crb getting 7. Come on people.

[Shimeria]

I just did it by clicking, no fancy program.
These folks getting more than one might be sniping on the events signup page, but it seems unfair to a lot of premium subscribers who just want to go once and experience a merchant themed event.

[thefarmer]

I only got 4 :(

[Lady Lightning]

One for me.

[Jarvan]

I'm going to call bullshit on crb getting 7. Come on people.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Not likely, but wouldn't shock me if he had.

If he did, it's likely most of them are for other people. Although it would just be funny in a way, by the 3rd run, if you want a ticket to the simu event, you will have to pay CRB for the right to get one.

[Xeta]

I just did it by clicking, no fancy program.
These folks getting more than one might be sniping on the events signup page, but it seems unfair to a lot of premium subscribers who just want to go once and experience a merchant themed event.

^^

[bremerial]

Finally got one! This is my first one, was getting nervous I would never get one ticket.

I spent quite a significant time saying:

"I'm not going to go"
"I'm not going to go"
"I'm not going to go"
"I'm not going to go"



Then I went to the Lite Version, got my will-o-wisp and was hooked.

[Whirlin]

Whats the schedule on tickets this time around? Completely slipped my mind

[Tisket]

They go on sale next Tuesday.

[SHAFT]

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Not likely, but wouldn't shock me if he had.

If he did, it's likely most of them are for other people. Although it would just be funny in a way, by the 3rd run, if you want a ticket to the simu event, you will have to pay CRB for the right to get one.

Or be in your iPhone at 9 am pst. On 4g none the less.

[Nathala Crane]

D'oh. Forgot this was happening today. And that's what I get for doing the job for which I am paid. :(

[Lord Orbstar]

it is ok. whatever you miss, Virilneus will just have made and then he can try to fuck you out of hundreds of dollars for an admittedly nice item.

[Shimeria]

I spent quite a significant time saying:

"I'm not going to go"
"I'm not going to go"
"I'm not going to go"
"I'm not going to go"



Then I went to the Lite Version, got my will-o-wisp and was hooked.

I went to the one years ago and got hooked but the will-o-wisp is so special, glad we can get them in the lite version!

[Zaigh]

I see at least 2 people that most likely scripted to get their tickets, probably more.

Things like this make me wish I could program worth something instead of trying to figure it out and getting frustrated because I don't know enough code to make it all work.

[Nathala Crane]

it is ok. whatever you miss, Virilneus will just have made and then he can try to fuck you out of hundreds of dollars for an admittedly nice item.

Yeah, no, I'm good. lol

It's probably a good thing I forgot. While I have plenty of disposable income, I can think of a few things I'd rather be spending the cash on.

[Androidpk]

How does one script something like this? Sounds bogus to me.

[cwolff]

How does one script something like this? Sounds bogus to me.

I'm sure there's a way to write an automated program which refreshes, has checks and inputs your info. Way beyond me though.

[Tylec]

How does one script something like this? Sounds bogus to me.

I play at least a couple of web based games where there are add-ons that click the buttons for you since it's repetitive and a pain. Can't imagine this being much different.

[Jarvan]

How does one script something like this? Sounds bogus to me.

Seriously PK? We have computer programs that run nuclear reactors.. and ones that shut them down.. and you don't think someone can write something to buy a ticket?

[Ardwen]

heck with reactors, we have programs that send us bogus emails saying we won the lottery in a country we never visited!

[darkcipher]

The question is... why would someone smart enough to write a scripting program to snag multiple tickets be dumb enough to brag about it and risk getting their method possibly shut down?

[tyrant-201]

The question is... why would someone smart enough to write a scripting program to snag multiple tickets be dumb enough to brag about it and risk getting their method possibly shut down?

You put too much faith in Simutronics if you think they're going to shut it down by the time the 3rd run rolls around.

[darkcipher]

You put too much faith in Simutronics if you think they're going to shut it down by the time the 3rd run rolls around.

No, not really faith in Simu, but people are already complaining on the officials... if someone actually takes their advice and looks at the IP addresses it would be easy enough to find multiple account purchases from the same IP address. It may not happen, but why risk it? Bragging rights? Just doesn't make sense to me.

[Jarvan]

No, not really faith in Simu, but people are already complaining on the officials... if someone actually takes their advice and looks at the IP addresses it would be easy enough to find multiple account purchases from the same IP address. It may not happen, but why risk it? Bragging rights? Just doesn't make sense to me.

Well. If CRB really did do it. And Notice he hasn't posted recently, then it's not really bragging rights, but advertising.

[Ardwen]

because Simu doesnt care people are doing it, has been happening ever since there were limited pay events. people arent going to stop now.

[Aluvius]

I managed to snare a ticket, number 25 in the batch heh. Like others I had feared I would never get one, but was able to get it with old fashioned clicking on a slow as crap lab computer where I work. Just dumb luck.

I even bought a ticket to the Plat instance since I figured I would never get one in Prime, just so I could join some raffles and see what it was like. :)

Zaigh, that dog gif .. jeebus that is fucking hilarious.

[cwolff]

From what I've seen SIMU isn't agile enough to stop this. They probably don't care much either. They are selling 300 tickets at $75.00 a pop and will sell out. That's $22,500 of guaranteed revenue and it'd take an avalanche of people quitting to dent that. People wouldn't be quitting because they hate the game either but because they love the game and want be more deeply involved; not less involved.

[Tisket]

No, not really faith in Simu, but people are already complaining on the officials... if someone actually takes their advice and looks at the IP addresses it would be easy enough to find multiple account purchases from the same IP address. It may not happen, but why risk it? Bragging rights? Just doesn't make sense to me.

Since I work, a friend of mine is trying to snag his tickets and mine. There is no more wrong with this than having someone stand in line to buy your concert tickets.

[Androidpk]

CRB didn't get 7 tickets, but he did make a bunch of silvers last run trying to buy tickets for other people. Why not advertise that you got X amount of tickets and for only 10 million silvers he'll get you one too! As for scripts I don't really see how they would give you a huge advantage. Getting a ticket manually is pretty straight forward. You click on the button and then click purchase when you see it. Otherwise you go back a screen and try again.

Two attempts, two tickets.

[cwolff]

CRB didn't get 7 tickets, but he did make a bunch of silvers last run trying to buy tickets for other people. Why not advertise that you got X amount of tickets and for only 10 million silvers he'll get you one too! As for scripts I don't really see how they would give you a huge advantage. Getting a ticket manually is pretty straight forward. You click on the button and then click purchase when you see it. Otherwise you go back a screen and try again.

Two attempts, two tickets.


With this much demand a concert promotor would often schedule more dates.

[tyrant-201]

CRB didn't get 7 tickets, but he did make a bunch of silvers last run trying to buy tickets for other people. Why not advertise that you got X amount of tickets and for only 10 million silvers he'll get you one too! As for scripts I don't really see how they would give you a huge advantage. Getting a ticket manually is pretty straight forward. You click on the button and then click purchase when you see it. Otherwise you go back a screen and try again.

Two attempts, two tickets.

Straight forward if you make it within the 1-2 second time frame.

[cwolff]

Re: More Runs on 07/01/2013 11:23 AM MDT
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I never said no one bought multiple tickets. I said no single person bought 7. I cannot check ISPs, I'm an offsite GM. But I can use a handful of tools to cross reference some things. But really, what would you like me to do? I'm an independent contractor, I work from home. I can't change the billing system. It's the same billing system we been using for quite some time.

If we offered tickets in a flat 100 batch, it would definitely up your probability to get a ticket if you're available during the time for release, but it would also decrease your chances to going to the event if you didn't get a ticket to 0 (for that run). We took some critical feedback over the years to offer tickets this way. There are definitely a great number of vocal people who dislike it, but there are people out there that appreciate it. This wasn't the first time we did tickets this way. But changing ticket sales after the fact would be worse, not better, so once this train got moving, it's not stopping until August (when the last batch go for sale).

As for the other issues, it's not staff causing the issue. It's players. I'm not personally preventing anyone from going. What do you want us to do to players that do this? We're a pretty small community of player as far as online stuff goes.

As for more runs, it won't be happening. The reason for the limited scope is because it's intended to be limited in quantities that we offer. I already got approved to do 78 more tickets this year from the last CCF.


~Wyrom, SGM
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This is what the officials are saying.

[darkcipher]

Since I work, a friend of mine is trying to snag his tickets and mine. There is no more wrong with this than having someone stand in line to buy your concert tickets.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just questioning whether it's prudent to brag about said feat. It may be that Simu doesn't care about where they get their money, as has been said, and won't actually do anything because they are still selling tickets. I'm also not one of the ones complaining on the officials, though I do enjoy watching the spectacle.

[Jarvan]

CRB didn't get 7 tickets, but he did make a bunch of silvers last run trying to buy tickets for other people. Why not advertise that you got X amount of tickets and for only 10 million silvers he'll get you one too! As for scripts I don't really see how they would give you a huge advantage. Getting a ticket manually is pretty straight forward. You click on the button and then click purchase when you see it. Otherwise you go back a screen and try again.

Two attempts, two tickets.

Two times I saw the purchase ticket screen, both times clicking it resulted in a 500 error message. Then they were sold out.

Not really all that straight forward really.

As for a program to do it, if you wrote something that did that attempt in less then a second, and tickets sell out in 3-4 seconds.. do the math. It shouldn't take Bob to figure out that equation for you.

[wizgem3]

10 tickets here. One for each of my fingers. I would could of gotten 10 more using my toes, but Id let others get a chance at it. Maybe one more using my tounge.

[Ardwen]

I like how Wyrom shifted blame to the players, for abusing a fatally flawed distribution system, that we told them in advance was ridiculous

[wizgem3]

One batch of 100 would of solve some problems, but not all.

[Tisket]

I like how Wyrom shifted blame to the players, for abusing a fatally flawed distribution system, that we told them in advance was ridiculous

If I got blamed as much as he does, I'd be shifting blame like crazy too.

[Aluvius]

Yeah he's been great at adjusting this festival on the fly, I just wish they'd change the small batch idea. Its the only way to mitigate players snapping up multiple tickets across multiple accounts.

[Buckwheet]

I just wish it was like the Airship god auction. You got in with a token or cash and just make all the services tickets that have to be redeemed. If you didn't win anything with the token you get a decent consolation prize.

Be done with it.

[Jarvan]

True, he has changed a lot of things that needed changing, and did some stuff to make it better even during the festival.

That being said, he knew this ticket idea was a cluster fuck before they even went on sale, but refused to change it. After the first one, he could have changed it and didn't. No rule saying he can't. Wouldn't even have harmed anything.. except those people that would buy 1 ticket or more at each possible batch of tickets.. and that's who you should be trying to "harm" in a sense.

No.. at this point I really think it's another reason entirely as to why he won't change it.

[Ardwen]

I have no real issue with the event, I dislike the unlimited minor wins but otherwise think its been great. sure some of the majors and minors were backwards in my opinion but otherwise over all its been a great event. the ticket system on the other hand is a total and utter joke. Fairly sure a class room of first graders could have come up with a better system then this one.

[Lord Orbstar]

yes and no. He rightfully pointed out he is a work from home contractor and got 78 slots more this year. Then he pointed out what pathetic whores some players are, but was honestly caught between a rock and a hard place. I think a lottery system for a ticket, bound to the account, would be a decent thing for one of the runs at least. You are not going to change the weak personality of people that buy tickets in order to upgrade items they will sell for hundreds of dollars in profit. Those people see this as an enterprise for profit and kingdom in which they win/rule/are respected for their genius. They want to "win".

I think Simutronics has a duty to its normal-people customers to try and offer normal people a chance at the fun stuff of their paid events. Particularly those that pay 40 bucks a month as a premium for our text world. Shit, even standard pays too much for the deliverable if we are honest. It is those people Simutronics should work on some sort of system that mitigates people like ...let us just call them our "merchants" that use this game as a source of income, Merchant of Venice style. They should not be allowed to cut that pound of flesh every fucking time.

An lottery, account spinner (like at a merchant), private email invitation to the winners, the goddamn ghost hook that would grab & drag a character into the lounge "he bro, wanna go to RCTF..if so say yes and here is a ticket you must redeem for an event ticket within 48 hours..only good for your account...so you cannot sell it like a whore". Many of you have ideas already that are probably better. It is up to Simutronics as a corporation to care. I do not blame Wyrom or their employees. I have been pumping money into ELanthia since 1995...listen to your customer base...and not just the ones that suck your simucock at simucon. < probaby overstated(I hope). Although, I would do...oh nevermind.

[Jarvan]

I just wish it was like the Airship god auction. You got in with a token or cash and just make all the services tickets that have to be redeemed. If you didn't win anything with the token you get a decent consolation prize.

Be done with it.

I would have tried to code it with a Major win per person, and 3 minor wins. Max. Would give everyone equal shot at items. No one would walk away empty handed. Could still sell stuff if you wanted. Granted, I am not always one for "fairness" but if you are paying money, you should get something. yeah, you are getting a SHOT at a major, or a consolation prize.. the rest of the event is purely a lottery.

[Leloo]

I didn't even know these tickets were for sale today! :( I am never going to go! When was it announced?

[Zaigh]

How does one script something like this? Sounds bogus to me.

It's really rather easy to do if you know the right code (from what I understand). Basically you have your code send the POST request in to Simu's server and check the response. If it says you got a ticket then you're good, if not then do it again. The problem for me came from the fact that Simu uses ASP and I couldn't figure out how to get a program to properly emulate a browser in order to sign in, keep cookies, and go into the loop of sending the purchase request.

But that pretty much is all there is to the program unless you code in some interface for putting in the quest ID, Login, PW, character name, class, and level.

Now, anyone out there familiar enough with ASP & passing POST requests through to help me finish this and put everyone back on even footing so we can all be script kiddies?

[Ardwen]

tickets were announced all at once when they set the whole times thing up, as was when they would all be sold

[Allereli]

I didn't even know these tickets were for sale today! :( I am never going to go! When was it announced?

the schedule for ticket sales was announced in the original RtCF post

[Leloo]

tickets were announced all at once when they set the whole times thing up, as was when they would all be sold

What's hilarious is I had asked someone when these tickets were being sold and they told me they didn't announce it, only announced the one time heh... Ok well when is the third ticket sale date?

[SHAFT]

What's hilarious is I had asked someone when these tickets were being sold and they told me they didn't announce it, only announced the one time heh... Ok well when is the third ticket sale date?

More are going up for sale in 38 minutes. You still have a shot. Also more tomorrow.

[Androidpk]

More are going up for sale in 38 minutes. You still have a shot. Also more tomorrow.


38 minutes? No. The second batch for premium customers goes on sale tonight at 8pm EST. Then tomorrow a batch at 12pm and another at 8pm. Tomorrows tickets are available to basic accounts.

[Jarvan]

More are going up for sale in 38 minutes. You still have a shot. Also more tomorrow.

More are going on sale at 8 pm, not 38 minutes.

[Leloo]

38 minutes? It says 8pm. Did I do something wrong?

[Lord Orbstar]

This is a time where i regret being deployed. the time difference....it is 11pm here now. chances of me getting a ticket are slim. Even if I got a ticket, some bastard will probably shoot a rocket at my base and knock out internet. lol. the REAL concerns of combat: getting my GS4 fix. How...sad.

[SHAFT]

38 minutes? It says 8pm. Did I do something wrong?

Oh yeah. Sorry. I'm all mixed up. Well, later today

Was thinking 3pm for some reason

[Jhynnifer]

They go on sale next Tuesday.

ROFL. Well played.

[Moonwitch]

You won't hear from Virilneus for awhile because he's on vacation this week. If the man did get 7 tickets then 5 were probably for other people. He told me last night he had 2 accounts he needed to get tickets for, and I believe they were his personal accounts.

I'm not sure if he wrote a program for this time, I know he did not for the last run and he did manage 3 tickets for himself on that run. 7 though seems crazy for one batch release and I can't even imagine. It is hard enough just to get one.

[Jarvan]

You won't hear from Virilneus for awhile because he's on vacation this week. If the man did get 7 tickets then 5 were probably for other people. He told me last night he had 2 accounts he needed to get tickets for, and I believe they were his personal accounts.

I'm not sure if he wrote a program for this time, I know he did not for the last run and he did manage 3 tickets for himself on that run. 7 though seems crazy for one batch release and I can't even imagine. It is hard enough just to get one.

Any person that can get 2 tickets in a 3-4 second window either has to be the luckiest person alive.. or have a script/program.

[Androidpk]

Any person that can get 2 tickets in a 3-4 second window either has to be the luckiest person alive.. or have a script/program.

Or they have another body helping them. Derp.

[Jarvan]

Or they have another body helping them. Derp.

So what you are saying is two people both get lucky enough VERY time they try to get tickets.. when hundreds of others dont?

Which is more realistic?

[Lord Orbstar]

the other person was David Whately?

[Moonwitch]

I've not had any luck. Me and my daughter sitting hitting refresh....le sigh as well

You're not supposed to refresh, there is a post that someone did that had a quicker way to do it. He posted it the last time tickets went on sale with arrows and everything!

[Androidpk]

So what you are saying is two people both get lucky enough VERY time they try to get tickets.. when hundreds of others dont?

Which is more realistic?

That sounds pretty realistic to me. I've only tried two times for a ticket and both times I have gotten one.

[Homur]

No way in hell I'm paying 75 bucks for a ticket, so I don't have a horse in this race...

Why would they allow accounts from the first run to be eligible to purchase tickets for the second and third runs? I can't imagine there was a lack of demand. Preventing multiple trips with the same account would at least create the illusion of fairness.

The next time they do a pay event, they ought to consider up'ing the cost to $150 or more -- I'm curious to see what the price ceiling is on this sort of thing, I imagine it is even more ridiculous than what I suspect.

[senorgordoburro]

I have tried three times and gotten tickets twice... I don't use a program, I have basic FIOS high speed. This is not a conspiracy, and I really think Viril trolled the shit out of that post, and it worked considering the crying about 7 tickets here and the officials.

[Jarvan]

That sounds pretty realistic to me. I've only tried two times for a ticket and both times I have gotten one.

I have tried 5 times now, had 2 friends try for me 5 times.. 1 ticket.

So you are a statistical anomaly.

I think 95% of the players that have tried to get a ticket didn't. Just because somehow you seem able to get one whenever you want doesn't make it likely that everyone can.


I have tried three times and gotten tickets twice... I don't use a program, I have basic FIOS high speed. This is not a conspiracy, and I really think Viril trolled the shit out of that post, and it worked considering the crying about 7 tickets here and the officials.

So does that mean that Simu should be billing the event as Go to RtCF with a button to sign up for FIOS? I have a 25 mb download cable.. only 5 mb upload tho. Seems mine isnt fast enough to get a ticket to go.

Ticket sales should not be dependent on who has the fastest internet, or Mad programming skills. I will admit, I have always gotten a ticket.. but thats because they never sell out in 3 second EACH and every time. Minutes, yes. But if you are at your computer, and ready to go.. it is generally easy to get 1 of 75 say. 1 of 25, not so much.

[Moonwitch]

No way in hell I'm paying 75 bucks for a ticket, so I don't have a horse in this race...

Why would they allow accounts from the first run to be eligible to purchase tickets for the second and third runs? I can't imagine there was a lack of demand. Preventing multiple trips with the same account would at least create the illusion of fairness.

The next time they do a pay event, they ought to consider up'ing the cost to $150 or more -- I'm curious to see what the price ceiling is on this sort of thing, I imagine it is even more ridiculous than what I suspect.


You can't use the same account for the second run. It is one per account. It's just people (including me) have more than one account.

[SHAFT]

I have tried three times and gotten tickets twice... I don't use a program, I have basic FIOS high speed. This is not a conspiracy, and I really think Viril trolled the shit out of that post, and it worked considering the crying about 7 tickets here and the officials.

Funny huh?

[Slit-eye]

People are so silly.

[Latrinsorm]

Either you're full of shit, or a piece of shit. Which one is it?But trustworthy, and that's just what a trustworthy person would say, so his story checks out.
I have tried 5 times now, had 2 friends try for me 5 times.. 1 ticket.

So you are a statistical anomaly.This is not how statistics work.

[Nathala Crane]

The next time they do a pay event, they ought to consider up'ing the cost to $150 or more -- I'm curious to see what the price ceiling is on this sort of thing, I imagine it is even more ridiculous than what I suspect.

Well..

BILLING RESULTS FOR OCTOBER, 2005
DESCRIPTION DATE AMOUNT
Transaction # 1773130 10/14/2005 $121.55

QUEST: Storms of Fortune - Voyage 4 on 01/13
Paid via Credit Card ($121.55)

Would I do it again today, in 2013? Eh, maybe. Maybe not. But it's not unheard of.

[Ardwen]

wavedancer staterooms were 200 bucks and sold instantly

[thefarmer]

So what you are saying is two people both get lucky enough VERY time they try to get tickets.. when hundreds of others dont?

Which is more realistic?

I've gotten 5 out of 5 attempts. And I'm not the only one to have had this happen.

I think the problem is with you.

[crb]

Either you're full of shit, or a piece of shit. Which one is it?

Third option: Full of hilarity.

Seriously, I bought all 100 tickets on the first run, I don't need any this run, so that was a joke, I didn't buy 7 out of 25 in less than 4 seconds.... I only got 6.

[Slit-eye]

How quickly the tune changes when people start sniffing the database.

[crb]

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Not likely, but wouldn't shock me if he had.

If he did, it's likely most of them are for other people. Although it would just be funny in a way, by the 3rd run, if you want a ticket to the simu event, you will have to pay CRB for the right to get one.

I like the way you think.

[m444w]

It's a joke they don't have a captcha or some other sanity check as well as some sort of basic rate-limiting tactics in place.

The people running these multi-threaded spiders are performing what is tantamount to a DoS attack.

[tyrant-201]

Third option: Full of hilarity.

Seriously, I bought all 100 tickets on the first run, I don't need any this run, so that was a joke, I didn't buy 7 out of 25 in less than 4 seconds.... I only got 6.

The two options covered the bases. You're full of shit.

[Jarvan]

I've gotten 5 out of 5 attempts. And I'm not the only one to have had this happen.

I think the problem is with you.

I know you think you are funny, but you are not. Keep trying tho, the attempts at humor from you are almost funny.

[thefarmer]

I know you think you are funny, but you are not. Keep trying tho, the attempts at humor from you are almost funny.

What's actually funny is you thinking I'm joking.

[tyrant-201]

I think it's truly awesome how many people are gloating about how many tickets they've gotten, when there's a clear demand from people who haven't gone that want to go.

Not surprising, but the sheer greed is just ridiculous.

[thefarmer]

I think it's truly awesome how many people are gloating about how many tickets they've gotten, when there's a clear demand from people who haven't gone that want to go.

Not surprising, but the sheer greed is just ridiculous.


Who says these tickets were all used by the people that got them?

Mine weren't.

[cwolff]

The people running these multi-threaded spiders are performing what is tantamount to a DoS attack.

That about sums it up except that the corporation has set a finite limit of profit. They are easily going to hit that mark so they don't give a shit about DOS. It only hurt their other customers.

[Suppressed Poet]

Well looks like i fucked up the timezone somehow. Le sigh. Here we go again.

Me too. I didn't try too hard but heard someone talking about it on lnet. I thought what the hell, it's 20 minutes to midnight EST so I'll give it a shot. Right place and right time, so I thought. Kept refreshing and nothing...not even that they were on sale or sold out. My guess is it was a different time than midnight eastern standard. I tried to navigate the officials and was reminded how much I hate that dinosaur POS system, and gave up pretty quick. I looked for a bit on here but didn't see specificaly when the first batch was going on sale.

It's a great event, no doubt. I would pay $75 for a ticket, even though that's a little pricey in my opinion. I can justify it that id get good enjoyment from it and an opportunity for something more valuable item wise than the cost of admission. However...I can't afford nor have any desire to manage my time for a lucky shot at getting one. I've got too much other shit going on besides gemstone. Eff it - if it is that difficult to get a ticket than I don't want to be a part of it. CRB can have them all for all I care.

[Narthsin]

Jarvan trying to get a RtCF ticket.

5275

[tyrant-201]

Who says these tickets were all used by the people that got them?

Mine weren't.

Maybe not, but I don't comprehend the mentality of "Lol hae guise, sucks you didn't get one yet. I've gotten 5 so far!."

Whatever helps people feel better about themselves, I suppose. Some of us would be happy with one, some of us wouldn't be satisfied unless we took multiple chars on multiple runs by raping the hapless system Simutronics set up.

[Slit-eye]

They most certainly do care. They're looking into it as we speak. DOS attacks are not something to be taken lightly, and while Simutronics staff may have made a few bad calls in regards to this event - they're not going to let things that threaten the company itself slide past unnoticed.

[diethx]

Maybe not, but I don't comprehend the mentality of "Lol hae guise, sucks you didn't get one yet. I've gotten 5 so far!."

Whatever helps people feel better about themselves, I suppose. Some of us would be happy with one, some of us wouldn't be satisfied unless we took multiple chars on multiple runs by raping the hapless system Simutronics set up.

Why's it gotta be to feel better about themselves? Why not just to make fun of Jarvan? Cause that seemed like the real impetus.

[Shaps]

In another thread on RtCF, I touched on the people that corner the market on most events/items. Others have commented on it. Everyone knows it, but the practice many times is defended. It is anyones right to own as many accounts as they want, and buy as many tickets as they want. But I think it diminishes the spirit of events like this, when they are cornered by a few MA'ers.

But... the real issue is that this game has become so much about real money, and selling coins/items for real money, that the idea of 1 person going to an event 1 time no longer enters the mind of the upper tier, full time players/merchants. Lately it seems like it doesn't enter the mind of most players, as the only way to get ahead.. is spend a few hundred dollars to buy coins.

Everyone just sees it as a way to corner the market on something, then sell it to those that couldn't click fast enough. Or have jobs and couldn't be on at the specific time (seriously? 12 EST? Right in the middle of a work day?)

It's not as if we have 50,000 subscribers playing this. We are a small community. We are stagnant in our numbers the past few years. And as I said before (and got pretty much heckled for saying), the more that items/coins are cornered by a select few (who again have every right to do it), only dimishes the overall experience for the community.

If you've been once already.. try not logging onto those other 5 accounts you have and buying 5 more tickets. Let 5 other real people go and enjoy the event. Won't happen of course.... the all mighty dollar reigns. Forget the experience and community that Gemstone was and I believe supposed to be.

Again.. everyone has the right to do what they want.. and long time serious merchants have worked hard for what they've earned. But it has become so one sided... /shrug.

I wish everyone luck on the next RtCF.. should be fun and hope you get a ticket.

[cwolff]

But... the real issue is that this game has become so much about real money, and selling coins/items for real money,... as the only way to get ahead.. is spend a few hundred dollars to buy coin

Again.. everyone has the right to do what they want.. and long time serious merchants have worked hard for what they've earned. But it has become so one sided... /shrug.

If you're using GSIV to make real money and relying on that to pay your bills....then f you. I hope they open the simu store to everything and destroy your economy even if it destroys the game. For me, it'd just about be worth it.

[tyrant-201]

Why's it gotta be to feel better about themselves? Why not just to make fun of Jarvan? Cause that seemed like the real impetus.

Why make fun of Jarvan at all? They really should incorporate a "Are you sure you want to post this?" prompt before actual submission. A lot of people are pissed. A lot more will be pissed when/if they don't get a ticket. Gloating about what you've gotten already doesn't help the volatile situation, whether or not he was making fun of anyone in particular.

[Shaps]

Cwolff.. and you without doing research, reading what I really wrote, or not paying attention to what happens on the Market Board section.. are quite ignorant.

There are a number of people that make real money.. and very good money on this game. Not sure how you haven't realized this yet.

Almost all high end items are bought/sold in some fashion with a real $ component.

I personally do not deal in the real $ market, but I have played long enough to be.. lower/middle class with regards to my silvers/items. All of the older/respected/well stocked merchants have worked multiple years to aquire what they have, and I've known a number of them over the years. I respect the effort they have put in.

I am trying to make the point that we are no longer the 1500+ primetime playerbase we were. Through MA'ing and account sell offs items and the ability to trade/buy/sell certain items is very limited in the hands of a few nowadays.

It is what it is, and on a personal level in game, I enjoy 99% of everyone I know and have met. I love my in game time. I just have a disdain for the continuing push towards the real $ market that Gemstone is becoming. Would be nice to have someone sell something and not say: "FOR SALE 20 mil or $300!!" every now and then.

[diethx]

Why make fun of Jarvan at all? They really should incorporate a "Are you sure you want to post this?" prompt before actual submission. A lot of people are pissed. A lot more will be pissed when/if they don't get a ticket. Gloating about what you've gotten already doesn't help the volatile situation, whether or not he was making fun of anyone in particular.

Jarvan is upset because he can't bring his main again, yes? That's why he's being teased.

Dude, remember where you are, please.

[tyrant-201]

Jarvan is upset because he can't bring his main again, yes? That's why he's being teased.

Dude, remember where you are, please.

He's a big boy. He doesn't need you to defend him.

[cwolff]

Cwolff.. and you without doing research, reading what I really wrote, or not paying attention to what happens on the Market Board section.. are quite ignorant.

There are a number of people that make real money.. and very good money on this game. Not sure how you haven't realized this yet.

I have realized that people sold things from time to time for cash. What I have not realized is that people do this in lieu having a job. That their main purpose of a GSIV account is to make cash for living expenses.

If you've got extra coins, or a nice weapon lying around and sell it for a few bucks, that's fine. If this is game is the way you make a living, that's fucked and hurts everybody else.

Just another reason to institute breakage. Catastrophic breakage with no hope of repair.

[diethx]

He's a big boy. He doesn't need you to defend him.

I'm not defending him. I'm telling you that you're being stupid.

[thefarmer]

Maybe not, but I don't comprehend the mentality of "Lol hae guise, sucks you didn't get one yet. I've gotten 5 so far!."

Tell me where anything I said comes even close to that?

You sound either bitter for not getting one, or proxy bitter because you couldn't get more. Seriously. Which is it?

[Candor]

I have realized that people sold things from time to time for cash. What I have not realized is that people do this in lieu having a job. That their main purpose of a GSIV account is to make cash for living expenses.

If you've got extra coins, or a nice weapon lying around and sell it for a few bucks, that's fine. If this is game is the way you make a living, that's fucked and hurts everybody else.

Just another reason to institute breakage. Catastrophic breakage with no hope of repair.

I have known for a long time that some people in other games use that game to make a living (as an extreme example, there are people in China who make more money playing games than by farming). Second Life is another venue (I guess I don't think of it as a game) where a few people make a living off other players.

But I didn't know until fairly recently that there might be a few people using GSIV for much of their income. I have to say I don't support the concept, but I don't see how it can be fixed without causing a disruption in the game itself. And I really don't want breakage implemented.

I hope whoever is using GSIV for much of their income find more productive ways to earn a living.

[Shaps]

Cwolff,
Appreciate the explanation and I appologize for the ignorant comment.

I do agree with you that from time to time, to sell something for real $, sure.. will happen. In the past it used to happen. I recall Ciston's once a year or so massive auctions he would hold. It was an event! A special event, though for real money, that anyone could attend and have that once in a life chance at some freaky items.

I don't know if people make their "living" off this.. what I do know is people make thousands, and multiple thousands, off of this game... which I assume suppliments whatever they do in real life.

Nice flashback-read: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/28/technology/virtual-game-weapons-bought-with-real-money.html?scp=4&sq=gemstone%203&st=cse
and: http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/t-45772.html

I knew all those people..and those merchants were rare, rare, rare.

Nowadays, in my view, every deal/sell/trade is compared to the real dollar market, which I see as a blemish for the game. All I am trying to say.

[thefarmer]

But I didn't know until fairly recently that there might be a few people using GSIV for much of their income. I have to say I don't support the concept, but I don't see how it can be fixed without causing a disruption in the game itself. And I don't really want breakage implemented.

I hope whoever is using GSIV for much of their income find more productive ways to earn a living.

Inspire

[tyrant-201]

Tell me where anything I said comes even close to that?

You sound either bitter for not getting one, or proxy bitter because you couldn't get more. Seriously. Which is it?

I'm just jealous, super jealous. No, I haven't gotten one. I'm not the only one, and for most of us the chances are slim.

But you keep trying for that perfect 12/12, then you can razz Jarvan about it and not realize you're irritating the rest of the populace.

[thefarmer]

I'm just jealous, super jealous. No, I haven't gotten one. I'm not the only one, and for most of us the chances are slim.

But you keep trying for that perfect 12/12, then you can razz Jarvan about it and not realize you're irritating the rest of the populace.

If you think that's razzing Jarvan, you really should brush up on your understanding of 'murican. He basically said something was impossible. I pointed out that since it's happened, more than once, clearly it's not as impossible as he seems to think.

Besides. I'm pretty positive if you total up Jarvan's (complaint) posts about RtCF and mine, you'll find he's irritated many more of the populace than I did by stating a simple fact.

[Shaps]

LOL.. and my first negative rep comment.. "youre dumb it cant pay your bills get a job"

Apparently an article written by the NY times, which I linked, which substantially proves my point was lost on whoever cared to negatively rep me. I guess Ciston and his $100,000.00 year was made up then.

[Leloo]

So to be clear, the next tickets sell in 40 minutes?

[Shaps]

And immediately following... another negative rep comment by a nameless douchebag:

"No one gives a fuck what stupid point you're making. This is the PC, let farmer and tyrant fight for our entertainment"

So.. take this as a lesson all.. don't make factual statements, or back them up with substanitive evidence. You might piss off someone.

[tyrant-201]

I'm reading a book on how to speak American. No time for fighting. Must become fluent.

[Shaps]

Tyrant.. lol.. Excellent response.

And ty all for the positive responses as well.. much appreciated.

[Ardwen]

That wasn't even Ciston's best year, nor was he the only one profiting enough to not need to work

[SHAFT]

LOL.. and my first negative rep comment.. "youre dumb it cant pay your bills get a job"

Apparently an article written by the NY times, which I linked, which substantially proves my point was lost on whoever cared to negatively rep me. I guess Ciston and his $100,000.00 year was made up then.

Tsin too. I don't know if he paid his bills and lived off of GS, but he definitely made a sweet chunk of cash. He missed the Silver-Spike of 2013 however.

[Shaps]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

6 MINUTES!

[Terzl]

HAH! Made it to character screen again.. then nothing. Man, this is rough.

[Shaps]

LOL... 8 seconds from hitting button to hitting register.. and sold out.

I'm sure all the level 1-10 toons are real players too. LOL.

And all 25 are rogues? hahahahahahha....

Ahhh.. first drop down picked and whatever typed in the field.. lol... to funny, but effective it seems.

[Jarvan]

Internal 500 error message again for me when I clicked purchase ticket. Apparently I can't buy one.

[Lord Orbstar]

i woke up at 430am....and failed. Like this system. Fails.

[Ardwen]

rogue is the default faster if ya dont change it

[Tisket]

Got a ticket!! Well, my friend got it for me but still....whoooohoooo!

[SHAFT]

Got a ticket!! Well, my friend got it for me but still....whoooohoooo!

You cheater! Someone notify Simu!

[thefarmer]

Got a ticket!! Well, my friend got it for me but still....whoooohoooo!

Stop bragging

[Slit-eye]

Since I started running my super uber Simutronics Ticketgetter 2000, I've been batting a thousand! Thank you Billy Mays!

[Tisket]

Stop bragging

I've always been shameless.

[tyrant-201]

I got a ticket too. I'll stop QQ'ing now. Buy on, ticket hoarders.

[Aluvius]

Its definitely doable with dumb luck, just keep trying. First batch for me was me realizing you had to click the damn icon to get to the ticket page about 5 minutes after 12p. Second batch 500 error. Third batch buy screen, sold out. Fourth batch, I think another 500 error. Fifth batch, last ticket bought out of 25.

[Fallen]

<<So what you are really saying is...there's an app for that!>>


If there is and we detect anyone using something like that to brute force the box office, said person(s) would have a permanent, one way ticket to the void.






Solomon

[tyrant-201]

<<So what you are really saying is...there's an app for that!>>


If there is and we detect anyone using something like that to brute force the box office, said person(s) would have a permanent, one way ticket to the void.






Solomon

Sounds like he's threatening to back-trace it.

[diethx]

But everyone knows that the brute force method doesn't work...

[Tisket]

But everyone knows that the brute force method doesn't work...

I don't know...it works for me sometimes.

/rimshot

[tyrant-201]

Depends how you like your gay buttsex.

[diethx]

But everyone knows Tisket hates gay buttsex!

[Moonwitch]

Got a ticket!! Well, my friend got it for me but still....whoooohoooo!


Awesome Tisket! Now I need to find who you are in game so I can stalk you :)

[Tisket]

You don't need a reason to stalk me.

[crb]

Gah all that QQing on the officials you'd think Warslave and Trainertwo were sorcerers?

[SHAFT]

Gah all that QQing on the officials you'd think Warslave and Trainertwo were sorcerers?

Look what you've started! With all of your boasting about 7 tickets today...

You should be ashamed.

[crb]

Look what you've started! With all of your boasting about 7 tickets today...

You should be ashamed.

I know, can you imagine how bonkers people would go if they actually knew the truth?

[SHAFT]

I know, can you imagine how bonkers people would go if they actually knew the truth?

That you're really David whatley's clone???

[crb]

No. You're all merely aspects of my personality, this is all happening inside my head, so even when you think you get an RtCF ticket, since you're really me, its still me getting the ticket.

[Lord Orbstar]

Virilneus, you have added a lot to this game. You have a firm grasp on sorceror stuff and know this world intimately. But you are also a proper demonstration of wrong. As long as you get yours and "win" gemstone it is fine. No one will penetrate through your selfishness, and it is not worth trying. Of course you were exaggerating or outright lying/trolling. It doesnt matter if *this time* was a joke. You are almost as morally decrepit as bubbauno was. He, however, was a legitimate thief. You are merely greedy almost to the point of theivery. If Gemstone were the the Old West, you would be running an railroad. That is not a compliment. I know you dont give a fuck about my or anyone else's opinion. Just drive on and play it how you want to.

[Back]

crb gets troll of the year award!

[crb]

Virilneus, you have added a lot to this game. You have a firm grasp on sorceror stuff and know this world intimately. But you are also a proper demonstration of wrong. As long as you get yours and "win" gemstone it is fine. No one will penetrate through your selfishness, and it is not worth trying. Of course you were exaggerating or outright lying/trolling. It doesnt matter if *this time* was a joke. You are almost as morally decrepit as bubbauno was. He, however, was a legitimate thief. You are merely greedy almost to the point of theivery. If Gemstone were the the Old West, you would be running an railroad. That is not a compliment. I know you dont give a fuck about my or anyone else's opinion. Just drive on and play it how you want to.

I take the railroad as a compliment, I was also going to offer to try to buy you a ticket on the third run for free since you're deployed, so see I do have a heart, I am not the tin man.

As for me offering my time to help someone who doesn't have the time or ability to buy a ticket, that doesn't affect anyone other than me and the person buying, and so far I've been overbooked for it, so obviously there is demand.

I'm on record saying this ticket distribution method sucks, but it is what it is, and if I have more than one account (and have for years/decades) I certainly have as much right to take those accounts as anyone else (and yes, its no where near 7, honestly, people are gullible, I bought 1 ticket to run 2). I'm not cheating or doing anything anyone else can't do.

I could easily bitch and say I never get to participate in invasions or storylines because they're like at midnight eastern on weekdays, and that'd be true, but hey, I can find the time to go to events, and I enjoy that, and I pay for that pleasure, and if you don't like it, that's your cross to bear.

[Lord Orbstar]

That is an honest answer I can respect. Your joking reference to 7 tickets certainly set off a shit storm; really, it just re-opened a wound that is already there. Nobody likes this and it doesnt take much to get Frankenstein's mob moving. I was too harsh with my words on your behalf. Comes from frustration and waking up every 1.5 hours last night. I apologize for calling you a near thief. You are not.

[Jace Solo]

This is a time where i regret being deployed. the time difference....it is 11pm here now. chances of me getting a ticket are slim. Even if I got a ticket, some bastard will probably shoot a rocket at my base and knock out internet. lol. the REAL concerns of combat: getting my GS4 fix. How...sad.


Haha...I played while deployed 06-07 tooo

[Suppressed Poet]

Honestly I have to agree with crb on this one. While i think its arrogant and distasteful (using nice words here) to flaunt multiple ticket purchases, in the end he is just working the system. The system of ticket purchases is the real problem, if it even is one. I really don't think Simu gives two shits whether a casual player attends vs a mega player. They still get there's.

The only recourse you have would to get enough players that share your discontent in a unified manner, speak out against the event release method and demand change. Then, and only after doing so and giving Simu ample chance to respond and make ammends, if they refuse you hit them where it hurts - their walets.

I have no such interest in doing this...just pointing it out.

[senorgordoburro]

There is 0 chance to have any ticket sale changes for the remaining RtCF batches. Because of the overboard outcry at this point, they have to stick to their guns. You can only hope this is the last event done in this manner and from the 2013 EG have it go back to the old way, or a potential new one.

[Jace Solo]

I also need to say that I don't hate CRB for anything he does. Something has to find his website, which is the most accurate foraging and dwarven grunting site on the web.

I also don't approve of people getting multiple spots and some of us have a "chance" yet the same people get the same number of tickets and constantly hit it big at these events. I wouldn't mind a little lucky every now and then. Hell, all I want is the Coraesine raffle...and I can't even sell that!

CRB is a good guy. He's always made himself available to instruct me on game or script matters. He always answers and he is rarely condescending, but maybe it's the way I approach him. Either way, he's a major part of GS like those who came before him, if he makes some money playing to keep him interested and here to help those of us with less time to dedicate to the game. Fuck it. Give him a fucking spirit bow.

[Slit-eye]

There is 0 chance to have any ticket sale changes for the remaining RtCF batches. Because of the overboard outcry at this point, they have to stick to their guns. You can only hope this is the last event done in this manner and from the 2013 EG have it go back to the old way, or a potential new one.

This isn't quite accurate. The ticket sales method will not change, but chances are you will be seeing at least two less spiders bogging the system during the third run. It's also possible that two more people will try the method and bog the system anyway I guess... I don't think ticket releases will ever be done in such small batches with such open "Black Friday" rushes again.

[Buckwheet]

This isn't quite accurate. The ticket sales method will not change, but chances are you will be seeing at least two less spiders bogging the system during the third run. It's also possible that two more people will try the method and bog the system anyway I guess... I don't think ticket releases will ever be done in such small batches with such open "Black Friday" rushes again.

What do you mean? I am pretty sure that the number of accounts eligible to attend far surpasses the number of tickets. So if someone has a way to guarantee a ticket spot for someone who would either normally not attend or be unable to purchase a ticket a deal should easily be able to be worked out where the ticket getter either gambles for a service or just requests a part of any proceeds from the event. What makes you think its going to be reduced?

[Slit-eye]

I was specifically referring to the bots crashing ticket sales. Nothing about what actually happens at the event.

[crb]

That is an honest answer I can respect. Your joking reference to 7 tickets certainly set off a shit storm; really, it just re-opened a wound that is already there. Nobody likes this and it doesnt take much to get Frankenstein's mob moving. I was too harsh with my words on your behalf. Comes from frustration and waking up every 1.5 hours last night. I apologize for calling you a near thief. You are not.

I said 7 tickets because I thought it was a ridiculous number no one would believe. I was both shocked and amused people believed me. Next time I will pick an even higher number, 73 or something. I mean, if I claim I got 73 tickets after only 25 have been released and people believe me, they're definitely idiots, there is no forgiving that.

[Lord Orbstar]

I dont have access to play.net on my govt computer. isnt ehre another batch selling soon this morning? how much time till it goes on?

[darkcipher]

I dont have access to play.net on my govt computer. isnt ehre another batch selling soon this morning? how much time till it goes on?

Next 25 sell at 12pm EST, then the final 25 at 8pm EST. These are open to all, premie and basic accounts.

[Buckwheet]

3 hours 4 minutes I think before the next batch.

[Lord Orbstar]

Thank you. That is in like 3 hours.

[crb]

I also need to say that I don't hate CRB for anything he does. Something has to find his website, which is the most accurate foraging and dwarven grunting site on the web.

I also don't approve of people getting multiple spots and some of us have a "chance" yet the same people get the same number of tickets and constantly hit it big at these events. I wouldn't mind a little lucky every now and then. Hell, all I want is the Coraesine raffle...and I can't even sell that!

CRB is a good guy. He's always made himself available to instruct me on game or script matters. He always answers and he is rarely condescending, but maybe it's the way I approach him. Either way, he's a major part of GS like those who came before him, if he makes some money playing to keep him interested and here to help those of us with less time to dedicate to the game. Fuck it. Give him a fucking spirit bow.

I've worked very hard to cultivate a reputation and if you post like that you'll ruin it. Damnit.

To be clear though, I'm not one of those who farms Gemstone for RL spending money, as discussed earlier in this thread. I don't really participate in the cash market at all, only taking cash for something instead of silvers if the buyer insists and I have no other buyers, or vice versa if the seller will only accept cash and I really want the item (and in both cases the person must be a known trustworthy individual for me to even consider cash), and I don't buy or sell silvers.

[kutter]

I never had any intention of going so who got how many is not a big deal to me, besides, I am too poor from buying things which seem to be devalued from people looking to collect money for the event.

It is capitalism at its purest, and as a free market guy I could never complain about that. What I can complain about, is the same thing so many have, the system to get a ticket seems so jacked up it is beyond belief. I am not saying I have any way to fix it, but the people I pay out my $40 a month to should know better.

[Warriorbird]

I've worked very hard to cultivate a reputation and if you post like that you'll ruin it. Damnit.

To be clear though, I'm not one of those who farms Gemstone for RL spending money, as discussed earlier in this thread. I don't really participate in the cash market at all, only taking cash for something instead of silvers if the buyer insists and I have no other buyers, or vice versa if the seller will only accept cash and I really want the item (and in both cases the person must be a known trustworthy individual for me to even consider cash), and I don't buy or sell silvers.

I think CRB's mostly lacking any empathy or understanding for other people in the world. I disagree with him on pretty much everything.

...and I don't think he's into GS for cash sales or exploitation at all. I think he honestly wants the game to continue and be better.

[Whirlin]

Crb really grinds my gears.

[Jace Solo]

"Neg Rep - wow, nice kiss ass speech! give him a courtesy reach around while youre at it"

Sorry, CRB I know you got your rep to defend but you've always been a friend to me. And you've always signed your rep.

[nocturnix]

That wasnt even 10 seconds this time.

[Wrathbringer]

wow

[nocturnix]

Watched my clock rollover to 00, checked 10 seconds before, signed up RIGHT at 6pm, give or take 5 seconds. all sold out.

[Wrathbringer]

That wasnt even 10 seconds this time.

10 seconds? First run tickets lasted maybe 2 seconds. This time around, it's got to be around 1 second. Selling out in the time it takes to move the mouse to click confirm. wow.

[Drew]

That must have sold out in a second or two, I got to the character select screen, clicked accept and it was full.

[Allereli]

I pressed the back button after it said there were no tickets remaining, and only 8 ppl were in the list when I pressed the purchase ticket button. But I'm getting faster (didn't try first run)

[Wrathbringer]

Watched my clock rollover to 00, checked 10 seconds before, signed up RIGHT at 6pm, give or take 5 seconds. all sold out.

That's not going to work. If you're not spamming the site, you're not getting a ticket.

[nocturnix]

Really fucking lame.

[Shimeria]

That's fast! Anyone a lucky winner?

[Lord Orbstar]

ya i clicked one at 1 second to the hour and my other open window right on the hour. not good enough. internet lag here I am sure is my guarantor of failure. Well, if anyone has an extra ticket to sell...lol

[Drew]

I pressed the back button after it said there were no tickets remaining, and only 8 ppl were in the list when I pressed the purchase ticket button. But I'm getting faster (didn't try first run)

3 people were on the list when I pressed butan and I didn't get a ticket.

[Methais]

Ohhhh shit I got one. #7.

[Lord Orbstar]

Shimeria, you are always a winner in my book. See you at Ebon's Gate. :/

[Rolton-Sammich]

I started trying at 11:59:59, and got a ticket in three clicks. I was 18th.

"Give or take 5 seconds" is definitely not going to cut it here, people.

[Slit-eye]

Just over 7 hours until the last 25 tickets go. What's the going rate on a ticket?

[GS4-Seomanthe]

Twice I have seen the character list and twice seen crushing defeat lol. However, I always see names of people I like on the list so I do get that little burst of vicarious happiness -- Congrats to all you fast clickers! :grin:

[tyrant-201]

Just over 7 hours until the last 25 tickets go. What's the going rate on a ticket?

I hear it's 75 dollars

[tallkris3]

I ended up with one too... #16. One try one ticket. I guess I'm a statistical anomaly too and I didn't even use a fancy program.

[SHAFT]

I started trying at 11:59:59, and got a ticket in three clicks. I was 18th.

"Give or take 5 seconds" is definitely not going to cut it here, people.

Yesterday morning, as soon as iPhone struck 9am, I clicked it and then quickly confirmed the buying of the ticket. It was a 3 second process maybe, and that was good for #24.

[Vrairdrick]

Yeah I know, we do that. I used refresh just as a way to describe it. I use the back button, enter method as well.


You're not supposed to refresh, there is a post that someone did that had a quicker way to do it. He posted it the last time tickets went on sale with arrows and everything!

[Drew]

Yesterday morning, as soon as iPhone struck 9am, I clicked it and then quickly confirmed the buying of the ticket. It was a 3 second process maybe, and that was good for #24.

Presumably the premie queue had less competition.

[Lord Orbstar]

false.^

I just posted this on the officials. Who knows....maybe they will.


Management at Simutronics please look into this and answer on 07/02/2013 08:59 PM AFT
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and not through a work from home contractor. Please give us customer feedback on the this ticket buying situation. I have been playing GS since 1995 off and on. The off part is always for differing reasons, but this sort of thing is definately one of them. If you care about your customer base, it would be nice to see an actual manager or executive from Simutronics weigh in. It is always the usual suspects that gobble these things up in order to resell for real money profit. Not everyone, of course, but enough. I realize multi accounters are people too and a paid account is a paid account. I think you owe more to your loyal customers for our little outdated but addictive text world than seeing us only as numbers on a balance sheet. That is the feeling I have anyway.

There have been great strides this year, and Wyrom should be commended for his hard work. THere is a problem. There is outrage. There is a sense of "why bother". Please...respond.

[Buckwheet]

I don't understand why people keep demanding the same answers over and over again when they have already responded.

The system is what it is. And you can see by posts here that people are "getting lucky" and winning tickets. You probably have a legit number of players at 3 to 1 clicking for tickets. Has anyone not experienced a black friday online deal before with a release time? It happens all the time with Newegg daily deals and such during cyber monday or black friday.

Edit: So yesterday I got frustrated with the system because I didn't get tickets to either round one or to the first two releases for this run because the site is blocked from work and I have to take lunch at 12PM central time(not 11am!). So that cut my chances directly in half. So this morning I asked co-workers if I could bribe them with free lunch if they tried to get me multiple tickets. I ended up with 9 people trying for me along with my wife and brother and with those 11 people I was able to get one ticket. So maybe see if you can get a couple friends who have tickets to help you try for another one. People at CCF are pretty nice about trading their wins or whatever.

[senorgordoburro]

People just are not realizing that their is probably close to 2500 active GS accounts, and with 25 tickets at a time... it will only take 1 second for them to sell out. The reason the 'same' people get tickets is because they are just better at it. I don't go to NFL games and bitch to the management that I don't get a jersey and get to play. GS merchant types became merchants because they are good at it. It is partially luck, but it is also a faster internet connection and doing what it takes to increase your odds, closing all other open tabs, closing AIM, closing anything that may slow down your internet service, and then some good luck. But I will not believe that someone is running a program just to do this. This is a battle of statistics, not cheating. Also, bitching on the officials in the manner that is happening is not going to help the player base at all, it is going to discourage GMs from wanting to give back to the playerbase.

This is along the same lines of people writing scripts for lich, putting them on the repo for free, and then people bitching about them and demanding updates.

[Narthsin]

Congratulations Orbstar on giving Throgg some competition on the officials.

[Methais]

Congratulations Orbstar on giving Throgg some competition on the officials.

I haven't read anything on the officials in whatever these it's in, but at least Orbstar is capable of making a post that makes sense when you read it, even if you disagree with it. Throgg, not so much.

[thefarmer]

false.^

I just posted this on the officials. Who knows....maybe they will.


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and not through a work from home contractor. Please give us customer feedback on the this ticket buying situation. I have been playing GS since 1995 off and on. The off part is always for differing reasons, but this sort of thing is definately one of them. If you care about your customer base, it would be nice to see an actual manager or executive from Simutronics weigh in. It is always the usual suspects that gobble these things up in order to resell for real money profit. Not everyone, of course, but enough. I realize multi accounters are people too and a paid account is a paid account. I think you owe more to your loyal customers for our little outdated but addictive text world than seeing us only as numbers on a balance sheet. That is the feeling I have anyway.

There have been great strides this year, and Wyrom should be commended for his hard work. THere is a problem. There is outrage. There is a sense of "why bother". Please...respond.

You have serious, serious issues.

[Jarvan]

Congratulations Orbstar on giving Throgg some competition on the officials.

Hey, I resent that, if anyone gives Throgg competition it would be me.

[diethx]

Did you get a ticket, Jarvan?

[Tisket]

People just are not realizing that their is probably close to 2500 active GS accounts


How did you determine this?

[tyrant-201]

I've sold access to my account to Fleurs for the weekend. Time to enjoy this payday.

[diethx]

lol

[Moonwitch]

I've sold access to my account to Fleurs for the weekend. Time to enjoy this payday.

For just the weekend or the whole week?

[tyrant-201]

For just the weekend or the whole week?

Just the weekend. Dude's still gotta shop, right?

[Methais]

If someone wants to buy access to mine, PM me with an offer I can't refuse.

Must be someone known and trustworthy.

[Slit-eye]

I'm not ashamed to admit I'll be selling off the major/minors I may get from this run. Selling access to the account would require quite a bit more than most would be willing to pay. Buying my clickie finger for the last batch tonight will cost fifty million. Just sayin.

[Latrinsorm]

<<So what you are really saying is...there's an app for that!>>


If there is and we detect anyone using something like that to brute force the box office, said person(s) would have a permanent, one way ticket to the void.

SolomonNotice: not characters, persons. I hope you bought implosion insurance IRL, crb.
Because of the overboard outcry at this point, they have to stick to their guns.A GM said this too, and I don't see why. Will they go out of business? Will their families be killed, perhaps after Solomon wracks for more mana? They choose to keep doing it this way, and they could just as easily choose not to.
But I will not believe that someone is running a program just to do this.What more evidence do you need than people personally claiming they are doing so?

[tyrant-201]

Just to make sure I'm not getting hosed.. 200m isn't bad for access to my account right?

[Methais]

I'm not ashamed to admit I'll be selling off the major/minors I may get from this run. Selling access to the account would require quite a bit more than most would be willing to pay. Buying my clickie finger for the last batch tonight will cost fifty million. Just sayin.

That remiss me, I'll be doing the same tonight if anyone is interested. Will only be able to do it for one account, so first come first serve.

[Mindiloish]

I'm not ashamed to admit I'll be selling off the major/minors I may get from this run. Selling access to the account would require quite a bit more than most would be willing to pay. Buying my clickie finger for the last batch tonight will cost fifty million. Just sayin.

I'd sell my skills in ticket procuring for the last ticket for much less. If i know you and have had business with you before in the past i might even do it for free. If you need help let me know.

[Buckwheet]

Its not bad but not great either. I would ask for more.

[Moonwitch]

Just to make sure I'm not getting hosed.. 200m isn't bad for access to my account right?

I don't think that's bad at all, if you compare it to the fact that the ebow on the last run went for what? 250 mil? I think that was low and it will go for much much more this time around. 200 million for 2 days and 4 hours?

[Androidpk]

200m is great if you ask me. I'd do that in a heartbeat.

[Moonwitch]

Notice: not characters, persons. I hope you bought implosion insurance IRL, crb.

Latinsorm, He isn't using a program to get tickets. He only got 1 ticket the last time around. He can only manage to get 1 ticket per instance. If he was using a program of some sort I'm sure he could get more than 1 ticket per release. He even failed to get a ticket for one of the first releases for someone. He's not using a program, he's not cheating the system, he is manually going through the sign up screen.

[Slit-eye]

Four people now offering fast finger services for tonight's batch. But no! No way in hell are people botting. laulz

[Androidpk]

Four people now offering fast finger services for tonight's batch. But no! No way in hell are people botting. laulz

Just because some people are good at buying tickets doesn't mean they are botting.

[thefarmer]

Four people now offering fast finger services for tonight's batch. But no! No way in hell are people botting. laulz

Those two don't really have any bearing on each other at all.

[Slit-eye]

Interesting how Helsfeld somehow managed to get his ticket to the first batch without selecting an option that gets autofilled by the browser by default. Blinds are good for horses and windows... not people.

[SHAFT]

I have 2 accounts with tickets for this run. Ill give people a deal! 150m for first weekend access for either, 285m if you buy both!

[thefarmer]

Interesting how Helsfeld somehow managed to get his ticket to the first batch without selecting an option that gets autofilled by the browser by default. Blinds are good for horses and windows... not people.

lolwut?

edit: You've seriously got issues. It's happened before. On shit much less serious than this event. Relax guy.

edit2: "It", meaning the blank space for profession. I've seen it in other ticket sales. Like unlimited EG.

[Tisket]

lolwut?

^

[Buckwheet]

Four people now offering fast finger services for tonight's batch. But no! No way in hell are people botting. laulz

If it was a 100% guarantee people like CRB wouldn't be offering a refund if they don't get it. I think someone in the previous thread posted they paid CRB to do it but he didn't get it for them or something.

It sounds to me that you are so sure this is happening because you are doing it yourself or for others.

[Androidpk]

This is how I've been buying my tickets.


http://i40.tinypic.com/2qxrzmf.jpg

[tyrant-201]

Plan fell through. Now selling access for anyone's severed right hand, or first born son. PM me if interested.

[thefarmer]

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/2004196.jpg

[Methais]

Interesting how Helsfeld somehow managed to get his ticket to the first batch without selecting an option that gets autofilled by the browser by default. Blinds are good for horses and windows... not people.

I used a combination of Chrome, the backspace button, and the left mouse button.

I also remembered that I didn't have to select my character or anything, which is what made me miss out on a ticket last run, because I thought you had to, and wasted something like 1.850003375783 seconds on it.

[Jarvan]

Did you get a ticket, Jarvan?

Actually, yes I did. I bought a super computer and a 2 gigabit connection. Was able to snag a ticket.

(actually, I cleared my cache and shut off all other programs and didn't get the error this time)

[Androidpk]

Actually, yes I did. I bought a super computer and a 2 gigabit connection. Was able to snag a ticket.

(actually, I cleared my cache and shut off all other programs and didn't get the error this time)

That would explain your lack of bitching this time.

[Tisket]

Actually, yes I did. I bought a super computer and a 2 gigabit connection. Was able to snag a ticket.

(actually, I cleared my cache and shut off all other programs and didn't get the error this time)

Good. Playing victim is less satisfying than being a victor.

[diethx]

I'm not ashamed to admit I'll be selling off the major/minors I may get from this run.

Same.

[Jarvan]

That would explain your lack of bitching this time.

I actually still hate this system, it's stupid in the extreme. All tickets for sale at once seemed to result in less MA's, or at least it seemed to in the past.

Of course, I owe the major to someone already, and can't get the one item I actually wanted. So I am going to hopefully win a few useful minors.

[Latrinsorm]

Latinsorm, He isn't using a program to get tickets. He only got 1 ticket the last time around. He can only manage to get 1 ticket per instance. If he was using a program of some sort I'm sure he could get more than 1 ticket per release. He even failed to get a ticket for one of the first releases for someone. He's not using a program, he's not cheating the system, he is manually going through the sign up screen.Oh, I see. In that case my very serious warning about being imploded IRL can be disregarded.

[Moonwitch]

Oh, I see. In that case my very serious warning about being imploded IRL can be disregarded.

Ok this did make me smile thank you. I took that as the whole being banned, not that you were actually speaking seriously about being imploded. I know there are times that I wish I actually knew the spell immolate. When I'm driving and I wish I could immolate the idiot driving discourteously I realize that I need to take some time off of GS. :)

[Narthsin]

... it's stupid in the extreme.

No no, that's just you.

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[Narthsin]

To sum up this thread...

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[Slit-eye]

It happened before? How many times? Was there a default value set in the option list? When was this unlimited EG: was it before or after the latest .NET incarnations? Could people not have followed a genericly placed informational URL that contains a querystring that caused this?

Because you've seen it before doesn't mean that it's not related to behavior that is now being scrutinized - And I'm not trying to witch hunt. I'm trying to pull down the curtain that everyone seems to have up keeping them from seeing that many of their ticket opportunities are illusory. If they'd rather go forward with their head in the sand, that's alright by me... I've gone to RTCF. For those of you who want an outlet for your ire, the scripts and bots do exist. At least three different versions. I am 100% sure of this and told you all last run - but nobody believed me.

And to the neg reppers who don't sign 'em who are saying I'm crying about something, read and follow Tisket's sig. I think it's appropriate. Why would I cry about botters and scripters when I've got my tickets?

[Buckwheet]

It happened before? How many times? Was there a default value set in the option list? When was this unlimited EG: was it before or after the latest .NET incarnations? Could people not have followed a genericly placed informational URL that contains a querystring that caused this?

Because you've seen it before doesn't mean that it's not related to behavior that is now being scrutinized - And I'm not trying to witch hunt. I'm trying to pull down the curtain that everyone seems to have up keeping them from seeing that many of their ticket opportunities are illusory. If they'd rather go forward with their head in the sand, that's alright by me... I've gone to RTCF.

So you made a script to do it yourself. Good for you. You should report yourself to Solomon for your voiding.

[Methais]

People are buying into the bot conspiracy too much.

I had an alarm set for tickets today. Woke up an hour or two before then, and while I was taking my massive morning dump, I pretty much decided I wasn't even gonna bother with trying to get a ticket.

Then about 10 minutes before they went up, I changed my mind. Sat at my PC, opened Chrome, went to the page, spammed the BUY button and the BACKSPACE key until the list showed up, clicked the confirmation button or whatever it was, and had the #7 ticket.

It's not complicated and just requires a little bit of luck, not some script or whatever. I would have gotten a ticket for the last run too if I was aware that you could leave the character box blank, and I did that one from school on their shitty Pentium 4 PCs, and I was using F5 to refresh in Firefox instead of how I did it this time. (Hitting backspace in Firefox gave me that error page, whereas Chrome didn't, making Chrome the winner).

If I end up going myself, I'll be selling everything I win except maybe one major. If someone wants to work out an access deal or for me to try to get them a ticket tonight, PM me. If you have nice boobs, PM me also.

All that said, the system Simu set up for these tickets is still gayer than Perez Hilton.

[Narthsin]

Why are people even trying to compare EG to RtCF? EG always has something like 1000 tickets. That's a completely different setup. Has it ever sold out before?

The sheer stupidity that errupts whenever these tickets go on sale is amazing.

[Dain]

It happened before? How many times? Was there a default value set in the option list? When was this unlimited EG: was it before or after the latest .NET incarnations? Could people not have followed a genericly placed informational URL that contains a querystring that caused this?

Because you've seen it before doesn't mean that it's not related to behavior that is now being scrutinized - And I'm not trying to witch hunt. I'm trying to pull down the curtain that everyone seems to have up keeping them from seeing that many of their ticket opportunities are illusory. If they'd rather go forward with their head in the sand, that's alright by me... I've gone to RTCF. For those of you who want an outlet for your ire, the scripts and bots do exist. At least three different versions. I am 100% sure of this and told you all last run - but nobody believed me.

And to the neg reppers who don't sign 'em who are saying I'm crying about something, read and follow Tisket's sig. I think it's appropriate. Why would I cry about botters and scripters when I've got my tickets?

It's funny to see how you complain about this when you were the who claims to have made a bot then you even tried to sell it. You even said you got tickets from it. I'm also pretty certain you went last run, and oh.. look you're going again this run. How convenient you can get all these tickets. If anything this needs to be shown to Solomon and get slit-eye sent to the void.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?81611-RtCF-ticket-obtainer