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Percocet
08-25-2004, 05:50 PM
The Roleplaying Pregnancy thread started this ...

It wouldn't be too hard to rp it, not factoring in patience with the pregnant mother.

To my knowledge, when you first roll a character they have no age (i believe it's actually '0'). Not only that, you can hide the age, as well. Likewise, you can use the age 20 descriptor "appears to be very youthful" or what have you. It's not that hard, really. Start the height as very short and (if it still exists by the time the 'baby' character reaches the right age), go to the pavilion and increase your height.

I don't see a problem with this .. I think people put too much focus on the 'roll'playing factor of the game, casting a cloud over the actual "role"play of the game.

A character with no age descriptor or who looks very youthful / young and is very short ... if they can rp they can do the baby. Always be kneeling and always be crawling.

If anyone has ever actually "roleplayed" before you'd understand how possible this really is. Try going on AOL and doing the roleplay in the AOL chatrooms (generally found in member made rooms in the arts and entertainment category). THAT is real RP (there is rollplaying involved; however, for the majority of people it's second to roleplay)... even-though you have to filter through all the horrible typos and poor grammar and whatnot (and sometimes you just have to find the group of people who are your kind of rpers).. when you get down to it, that's the way RP really is.

The roleplay in GS is subpar because everyone is too concerned about the actual mechanics of the game (i included, i'm not singling myself out here as an excellent rper in gs). People say the act and smile verb are abused... I'm sorry, but just because the game will visually show your character sitting down with the "sit" command does not mean your mind can't imagine the character sitting down with the "act sits down" command, or "smiles coyly as he slumps his back against the tree, sliding to his knees."

I know that some people are really good rpers in gemstone, ones that raise over the bar. But the majority of "RP"ers in Gemstone aren't as good as most credit them.

for example:
People like Licel have the potential to be an excellent rper, hell, he's already really good.

The people in the latter part of my last comment are those like me - i'm playing gs because it's fun, i like the rush you get from raising status in a more-so palpable matter (levels and skills and whatnot). But then, I get the craving to RP like I did for those 9 years on AOL (yes, i have a life, I rped when I had time-off and 2 or 3 hours here and there, most would agree that it's a good way to break from life) - but in the case that I get that craving, i take my character somewhere with friends, or public places occassionally, and I actually RP him.

I guess being someone who comes from an rp world that's purely made up in the mind of those around them, without really any form of computerized game mechanics involved, my views are slanted.

come to think of it, it's probably really hard to understand...especially for people who haven't had the experience of an rp world like that. a world where you can really immerse yourself within.

Anyway, that's my steam I had to vent.

Brattt8525
08-25-2004, 06:03 PM
come to think of it, it's probably really hard to understand...especially for people who haven't had the experience of an rp world like that. a world where you can really immerse yourself within
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Speaking of which, where is a great place for RP'ing, I get frustrated trying to find people to RP with and end up just logging.

StrayRogue
08-25-2004, 06:09 PM
Sure it can be done. I'd even believe it. What I wouldn't believe is a baby or a toddler wandering around, wielding a battle-axe, killing things.

HarmNone
08-25-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Sure it can be done. I'd even believe it. What I wouldn't believe is a baby or a toddler wandering around, wielding a battle-axe, killing things.

Therein lies the problem, as I see it. Everyone I've seen who wanted to play a child did not take into account that a child would not be out killing monsters with a claidhmore, nor casting deadly magic at the ripe age of two. It could be done, but those I've seen try it did not have the patience to do it correctly.

Additionally, the game does not support roleplay for the sake of roleplay. No experience is gained from roleplay. To level, one must hunt, or heal, or raise...something is required that a child would not be able to do. Rather than recognize this, people who try to play children are found doing things that destroy the image...just to level.

Sad, really. :(

HarmNone

StrayRogue
08-25-2004, 07:08 PM
A game where Roleplay is actually rewarded so much that you gain as much exp by Roleplaying over hunting would be a rare sight. Perhaps when the none-hunting method of exp comes out that may change, though I just see it being another thing to script that won't be A) as quick B) as lucrative and C) exciting as hunting.

But anyway, a child/toddler shouldn't be able to learn that much anyway.

HarmNone
08-25-2004, 07:16 PM
It would be possible to make it such that a child could be played, and gain experience through roleplaying the child AS A CHILD. It would not be easy, but it could certainly be done. Some MUSHs come close, but most are quite small. There are more people who want to roll-play than there are those who enjoy true roleplay. :(

The problem is, just like the interaction between Kurapira, Klaive, and some other poor soul playing vampires, GemStone is not the kind of game in which this style of roleplay fits. GemStone is not a freeform game. When one gets right down to it, GemStone is designed to be a hack-and-slash. It's about mechanics and hunting more than roleplay. There IS roleplay available, but it is not rewarded, really.

HarmNone

StrayRogue
08-25-2004, 07:24 PM
I agree HN. But that doesn't mean good roleplay doesn't, hasn't and won't ever happen in Gemstone. I'm glad it does, otherwise I wouldn't be playing.

HarmNone
08-25-2004, 07:56 PM
There has always been good roleplay in GemStone. It's rare, but it IS there. Now, if the PTB would just concentrate on rewarding that as much as they concentrate on rewarding the numbers game, GemStone COULD BE the perfect game. :)

HarmNone would LOVE to see that

Latrinsorm
08-25-2004, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by HarmNone
Now, if the PTB would just concentrate on rewarding that as much as they concentrate on rewarding the numbers gameIt's flat out impossible to have an automated system that rewards good roleplay. Thus, they'd either have to decimate the population or multiply their staff a hundred times.

Speaking of decimated population, have you ever tried Modus Operandi?

HarmNone
08-25-2004, 08:04 PM
Not interested in Modus, thanks.

Impossible? Not a word I like, or use very often. ;)

HarmNone

Trinitis
08-25-2004, 08:05 PM
Modus is a BLAST harmie - You could come join my gang :P

I'm like..the ONLY person over in Modus that RP's as a "bad guy". So most everyone in the game is constantly trying to catch me. Its SO much fun.

HarmNone
08-25-2004, 08:10 PM
You? A bad guy? Now, that would be worth watching, just for the giggles! :D

HarmNone knows Adry is a big ol' huggy-bear!

Trinitis
08-25-2004, 08:12 PM
I may be.. But Yang the asian gang member is FAR from good. Heh. He mugs other players. He robs, beats, defaces, murders...He even steals candy from little babies!

Percocet
08-26-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Brattt8525
come to think of it, it's probably really hard to understand...especially for people who haven't had the experience of an rp world like that. a world where you can really immerse yourself within
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Speaking of which, where is a great place for RP'ing, I get frustrated trying to find people to RP with and end up just logging.

Ah, well, the world I was talking about was on AOL's freeform roleplay. If that's what you're asking about then I have the directions in my original post. Something like the Arts & Entertainment category, rooms made by aol members or what-have-you. A lot of new people go to the Red Dragon Inn, which is hosted by AOL itself (not under the member made rooms, still the same category). You used to be able to type RDI as a keyword and it would take you directly to the place where all the AOL roleplay evolved from. I'm not sure if the keyword still exists, I haven't had the need to use it since I moved on from the RDI and learned more about the greater potentials of the freeform chatroom / im rp.

Warriorbird
08-27-2004, 04:37 PM
:shudders: Problem with freeform is it leads to a lot of DBZ style "I M MOS PWRFL EVARS!"

Makkah
08-27-2004, 06:24 PM
I just thought this was all funny coming from a guy with the posting name "Percocet"


rht :shrug:

Makkah
08-27-2004, 06:24 PM
BTW I'm not trying to bust on your RPing ability or what-not... I just thought it was funny.


me

Betheny
08-27-2004, 06:54 PM
You hear Constellous yell, "::cackles:;"

Guess who is highlighted as a retard now. Good job! :clap: