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jafo
06-20-2013, 10:10 AM
Infinite rubs of Deep Blues. Doesn't use your mana. No cooldown. Successful rub is based on MIU (which ls low for this spell).

Buckwheet
06-20-2013, 10:14 AM
I believe, and I could be wrong, that a 107 raise use your own mana item went for like 20-25m a year or so ago. So yours is probably a little higher being that you need no mana to use it.

m444w
06-20-2013, 03:04 PM
Probably a pretty fair valuation there. Especially with the prevalence of neckworn enhancives, and that you can't remove perma items or the spell drops.

jafo
06-20-2013, 03:12 PM
For squares, are you suggesting that there is a prevalence of neckworn enhancives that are better than +25 bolt def/+15 TD?

Whirlin
06-20-2013, 03:19 PM
If M444w was accurate in saying that you can't remove it to keep the effect, then yes, that does diminish the value.

While enhancives may not yield the same benefit as 107, this is not the only way to get 107, as 70%(+-10% for potential counting fail) of character classes can unlock the spell. And the potent slots for enhancives are rather limited.

m444w
06-20-2013, 03:23 PM
If M444w was accurate in saying that you can't remove it to keep the effect, then yes, that does diminish the value.


Indeed, this is what I am saying. If his is different then it is likely unforeseen, but all permanent spell items I've ever owned require you to continue wearing the item after activating it to prevent abuse (pass it around to your MA group or group of 10 buddies or whatever).

Buckwheet
06-20-2013, 03:25 PM
I believe it also counts towards burst.

jafo
06-20-2013, 04:53 PM
Well, yes. It is an active spell.

Archigeek
06-20-2013, 04:59 PM
It's a nice item, I think the estimate is probably in about the right area for all the reasons mentioned.

Buckwheet
06-20-2013, 05:06 PM
What I meant by it being burst is that its not self knowledge 107 or an item granting you abilities like enhancives and requries additional training to wear around your neck to get the benefit compared to say a really nice neck worn enhancive.

Methais
06-20-2013, 05:46 PM
This item used to be priced at 50m on Ciston's list back in the day if that helps any.

Ardwen
06-20-2013, 06:06 PM
20-25 seems entirely reasonable, and yes it does cancel the spell if removed, or at least it used too. though it would be great for a someone to assemble the whole 5 piece set of both blues and 3 guars that got released at that auction

senorgordoburro
06-20-2013, 07:29 PM
though it would be great for a someone to assemble the whole 5 piece set of both blues and 3 guars that got released at that auction

Why would anyone want to own 2 of one spell and 3 of another item...

That seems like an incredible pointless collection. Collecting 5 spells is cool, collecting 5 items that do 2 things seems retarded.

Ardwen
06-20-2013, 07:37 PM
they are blues 1 and 2 and guards 1 2 and 3

All wearable at one time

senorgordoburro
06-20-2013, 07:49 PM
Ahh, that makes a lot more sense.

jafo
06-21-2013, 02:22 PM
Deep Blue Necklace - Me
Light Blue Bracelet - unsure who owns
??? (ed1 item) - no idea who owns
??? (ed2 item) - no idea who owns
??? (ed3 item) - no idea who owns

Amazing unique items for solo squares (especially if they hunt in areas where getting spelled up is a pain). (outside of the corner case of a capped player with the max number of items already in that slot or who is hunting capped spellburst areas).

Methais
06-21-2013, 02:38 PM
Deep Blue Necklace - Me
Light Blue Bracelet - unsure who owns
??? (ed1 item) - no idea who owns
??? (ed2 item) - no idea who owns
??? (ed3 item) - no idea who owns

Amazing unique items for solo squares (especially if they hunt in areas where getting spelled up is a pain). (outside of the corner case of a capped player with the max number of items already in that slot or who is hunting capped spellburst areas).

Only thing about any of those items is they do little more than provide convenience, even for squares, since all of those spells can be cast on others and are incredibly easy to find people to do so 99% of the time.