Character PIN numbers.

[Betheny]

Now... these are supposed to be very important, right?

How is it this freak can tell everyone's pin numbers, and he brings us to a table and tells us this?

See the log below for details, I reported and nobody bothered to get back to me. This is a serious issue.

>report This Shadowzblade fellow is somehow able to tell us all of our character PIN's by using a bug -- is someone listening to this? We're at a table.
REPORT should only be used to notify the GemStone IV staff of emergency situations or gamewide technical errors. Please use ASSIST for general support.


Message sent to all online game staff. While no staff members are currently on duty, there are likely to be several lurking behind the scenes to investigate your report. If you feel the need to speak with the staff, please type ASSIST for a list of options.

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Trane pulls out a chair and seats himself at the table.
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Shadowzblade says, "I can get your numbers."
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Trane stares at Shadowzblade.
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Shadowzblade asks, "Do you know anyone else that can?"
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Shadowzblade says, "Last of tranes 314403."
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Shadowzblade chuckles.
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You feel more refreshed.
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Shadowzblade says, "I am work ing on a bug with the gods."
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Shadowzblade says, "I have the ability to do this."
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Shadowzblade asks, "But is that neat?"
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Lycain darkly asks, "What are you talking about?"
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Shadowzblade says, "The think I just showed you."
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Lycain darkly says, "You're not working for the gods."
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Lycain darkly says, "You're a child man."
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Shadowzblade says, "Yes I am ..."
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Lycain darkly says, "You run around causing trouble."
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Lycain darkly says, "All day long."
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Shadowzblade says, "I am helping them with bugs."
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Shadowzblade snickers.
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Lycain darkly says, "And screaming."
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Shadowzblade says, "OK ."
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Lycain darkly says, "GET HIM."
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Shadowzblade says, "I know how you can edit others stats."
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Lycain darkly says, "Is what you did earlier."
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Shadowzblade asks, "Want you to see??"
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Lycain darkly says, "No you don't."
>"So edit mine.
You say, "So edit mine."
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Shadowzblade says, "Work ing on the bu."
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Lycain seems to be waiting for something.
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Shadowzblade says, "But check this out."
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You feel more refreshed.
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Shadowzblade says, "GO here."
>goals
Attempting to launch the web skill manager...
https://www.play.net/gs4/play/cm/loader.asp?uname=W_SIMONDSB4_W000&gcode=GS4&charin dex=325609&tcode=20040821175943&hmac=30b24f5e601a4 1f1af97abdf3f0c71c3
Shadowzblade says, "Http://www.play.net/gs4/play/cm/loader.asp?uname=W_JBOB5_000gcode=GS4charindex=633 789tcode=20040821175916hmac=fbbf64dd7d959cd410770b 8efa8e66a7."
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Your mind extends outward in an attempt to link with the PsiNet, but fails.
(Client will attempt reconnection every 5 minutes. You may disable this by typing PSINET UNLINK.
Shadowzblade asks, "Well?"
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Shadowzblade asks, "Do you see stats?"
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Shadowzblade taps his foot impatiently.
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Trane says, "No..."
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You feel more refreshed.
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Shadowzblade asks, "Soo neat huh?"
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Trane says, "Didn't work."
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Shadowzblade says, "Obviously did for lycain."
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Trane leans back in his chair, balancing himself on two legs for a few moments, then sets the chair back down on all four legs.
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Shadowzblade says, "They are both looking and are quiet."
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Shadowzblade snickers.
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Lycain darkly says, "I'm not trying them."
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Lycain darkly says, "I'm not abusing game mechanics."
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Shadowzblade says, "Yep but I have permission to."
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Shadowzblade says, "I have found some neat interesting things."
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You feel more refreshed.
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Shadowzblade says, "I need others to help test."
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Shadowzblade asks, "Care to help?"
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Trane asks, "How?"
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Shadowzblade says, "Because I found a really big bug."
>'I'm sure that your sharing these bugs will be mighty interesting to those that run the game, guy.
You say, "I'm sure that your sharing these bugs will be mighty interesting to those that run the game, guy."
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Trane says, "Nothing you've sent is working."
>"Other than that, I'm not really worried about you.
You say, "Other than that, I'm not really worried about you."
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Shadowzblade says, "I did not share the bugs."
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Shadowzblade says, "Like I said I am allowed to abuse them."
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The dim aura fades from around Shadowzblade.
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Shadowzblade says, "Just to a point."
>roll eyes
You roll your eyes.
>"OK guy.
You say, "OK guy."

[Edaarin]

I'd venture a guess and say that Trane might be one of his other characters.

[Betheny]

He told me my PIN, I just didn't want to post it.

[Edaarin]

I'm baffled then. Are you all on Psi Net?

[Betheny]

No, Psinet is down... It's really weird... I reported but apparently the GM's don't give a fuck.

How important is a PIN anyway?

[CrystalTears]

Well the PIN identifies the character and usually it's what they ask in case you don't remember something about your account to verify.

Do you actually know all the PINs for your characters? Was he right? I mean... is he that retarded to admit in the game that he's abusing a bug to get PINs? :nutty:

[Betheny]

Yeah, he did, but apparently GM's don't care or something. I only knew because I checked it against my records. I purposely didn't ask for it in-game, just in case. AT any rate, my best guess is he can determine a PIN number by using the web skill manager database. He said so. He also said the gm's let him do so, but that's bullshit.

[Hulkein]

I thought PINs were only needed during the AOL to Web switchover. I haven't even looked at mine since that time period.

[Betheny]

I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking... I mean, he gave me the pin of a character that I don't even have active.

[Blazing247]

That's....interesting.

[Artha]

Interesting, but not really that impressive.

[Edaarin]

A poster here and I both reported a BUG with the fame lists awhile back that let you see other people's PINs if they were in the top 1000. It should have gotten fixed weeks ago.

[Betheny]

IF a GM were to allow a player, especially an idiot like him, access to such sensitive information, wouldn't they want to know that this person is running around touting it? Basically saying he can steal your character from you if he wanted to?

[CrystalTears]

I still think he's a crackhead for admitting such a thing. GMs allow him to my ass. :moon2:

[Betheny]

My thoughts EXACTLY.

It's a little angering that they don't seem to be doing anything about it.

[Mykala]

if im not mistaken they ask for your pin number to transfer characters to another account as well, am I wrong about that?


Mykala and her dolly

[Hulkein]

Yes, you are wrong. They don't need a PIN number to transfer a character between accounts.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Shadowzblade says, "Last of tranes 314403.">>

That is not a PIN.

Your Character Index Number is xxxx.
Your Player Identification Number is
PIN# xxxxxxxxx-xxxx

Different character, different account:
Your Character Index Number is xxxxxx.
Your Player Identification Number is
PIN# xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxx

Character transfers require that you know the name of both accounts, the password and security answer of your own, and the character's first name.

[Edited on 8-21-2004 by Bobmuhthol]

[Betheny]

He was talking about everything after the dash.

[Soulpieced]

The Character Index Number is the last 6 digits. If you know those 6, you do NOT know that person's complete Pin. And for reference, pin number's only real use was activating a character from an inactive account, or if the character did not have an account, and you needed another way of accurately showing you were the character.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Hulkein
They don't need a PIN number to transfer a character between accounts.

lets say for example you call Brian or another staff member at Simu and say

Hello,

I cant remember the password for my inactive account. Would you transfer this character to my new account so I can see how I like the changes in GSIV? Oh yeah here is the PIN and I agree to the transfer charge and charge for an additional slot

Thanks in advance.

[HouseofElves]

Hrm, so weird. Maybe they were listening and just didn't report back. I tried to go to the website and got nothing. Perhaps someone did see.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by Hulkein
They don't need a PIN number to transfer a character between accounts.

lets say for example you call Brian or another staff member at Simu and say

Hello,

I cant remember the password for my inactive account. Would you transfer this character to my new account so I can see how I like the changes in GSIV? Oh yeah here is the PIN and I agree to the transfer charge and charge for an additional slot

Thanks in advance.

Heh, some people have been ripped off because their brand new character they've spend hundreds on from Ebay suddenly disappears all because of the above.

[Tirayana]

For the record, Maimara, Shadowzblade is an idiot. I don't think there's anything he can do with 6 PIN digits. He did the same thing to me thinking I'd help him or something. I told him to fuck off.

~Tirayana