Armor Ranks

[fallenSaint]

I know Ive seen this before yet when I actually need to know it I can't dig up a post.

Whats the armor ranks needed to train off the various encumberance on armors? Or better yet forumla to figure this out would be nifty since all Ive ever taken note of was the ranks needed to train off hinderance.

[Fallen]

Well...Its four Armor ranks to remove ALL penalties associated with full leather. Thats a start.

[Edited on 8-17-2004 by Fallen]

[Artha]

Or better yet forumla to figure this out would be nifty since all Ive ever taken note of was the ranks needed to train off hinderance.

Go here (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/armor.asp#Hindrance).

edit: Here's a chart I made. It's when you'll train off maneuver penalties if you're 2xing or 3xing and how many ranks it takes.

[Edited on 8-17-2004 by Artha]

[fallenSaint]

Many thanks Artha

[Bobmuhthol]

You fucked brig up. You didn't put the RT mod. There's also a random 12 after it. And it's misspelled.

You did the same thing to augmented chain.

[Artha]

The 12 is brig's ASG. The RT mod is listed as 6.

Aug chain's ASG is 15. The RT mod is listed as 8.

[Bobmuhthol]

Oh, okay. The RT mod is in the AsG column.

Try formatting your shit correctly.

[Artha]

Are you looking at the same chart? ASG is in the first column, RT mod is in the second.

[Bobmuhthol]

Yes.

[Drew2]

LOL NEVERMIND.

So it's 8 ranks for doubles.

Someone fucking lied to me.

I was sure it was 8.

[Edited on 8-17-2004 by Tayre]

[Drew2]

Unless he changed it, this is what it looks like for me.

Bob loses.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Tayre
Unless he changed it, this is what it looks like for me.

Same with me. It looked alright even before Bob posted a screenshot.

[AnticorRifling]

I thought it was 15 for double leathers. That's for RT, man, and spell hinderance minimums.

[Bobmuhthol]

15 ranks is a bonus of 90. That would mean you would need a bonus of 100, or 19 ranks, for maneuver penalty. That would also mean you'd have to be like a level 20 wizard before you could use double.

No.

[AnticorRifling]

So what's the answer bob. How many ranks to fully train off everything for double leathers?

[Drew2]

From the Play.Net armor hindrance site
The following table shows the base hindrances for each armor type. In no case will the hindrance ever be less than the value shown.


You can't train it off. Sry.

[Edited on 8-17-2004 by Tayre]

[Bobmuhthol]

8 ranks for RT, 15 ranks for wizard hinderance. However, bard circle and sorcerer circle are 6 ranks, and every circle has no hinderance.

[AnticorRifling]

So 15 ranks for a wizard to wear double leathers with the minimum amount of hinderance. Thanks, that's what I thought.

[Artha]

I don't know why yours looks like that, Bob. I see it how Tayre posted.

[Bobmuhthol]

Wizards also don't belong in GemStone. They really really really suck at wearing armor.

[Drew]

Does anyone have a link to page that lays out the number of armour trainings to train off the spell hinderance? The simu site gives a formula but that kinda math makes my head explode

[Bobmuhthol]

Get LOOKUP HINDERANCE to unbreak for you.

[Drew]

lookup hinderance
You focus your mind and search for "hinderance" on the PsiNet Library.

I assume you meant on PSInet... that's all that happens.

[Artha]

I needed the practice, so I'm writing up a program that'll do all the armor crap. It'll get done...eventually.

[Bobmuhthol]

>LOOKUP HINDERANCE
You focus your mind and search for "HINDERANCE" on the PsiNet Library.

[=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=]
Article "Hinderance" [AID #186]

ASG MnSp MjSp Cler MnEl MjEl Rang Sorc Empa Wiza Bard Max
1 Robes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | 0
------------------------------------------------------------------------
5 Light Leather 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | 0
6 Full Leather 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | 0
7 Reinforced Leather 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 2 0 | 4
8 Double Leather 0 0 0 0 4 0 2 0 4 2 | 6
------------------------------------------------------------------------
9 Leather Breastplate 3 4 4 4 6 3 5 4 6 3 | 16
10 Cuirbouilli Leather 4 5 5 5 7 4 6 5 7 3 | 20
11 Studded Leather 5 6 6 6 9 5 8 6 9 3 | 24
12 Brigandine Armor 6 7 7 7 12 6 11 7 12 7 | 28
------------------------------------------------------------------------
13 Chain Mail Armor 7 8 8 8 16 7 16 8 16 8 | 40
14 Double Chain Mail 8 9 9 9 20 8 18 9 20 8 | 45
15 Aug. Chain Mail 9 11 11 10 25 9 22 11 25 8 | 55
16 Chain Hauberk 12 15 15 13 30 12 26 15 30 16 | 60
------------------------------------------------------------------------
17 Metal Breastplate 16 25 25 16 35 21 29 25 35 21 | 90
18 Aug. Breastplate 17 28 28 18 40 24 33 28 40 21 | 92
19 Half Plate Armor 18 32 32 20 45 27 39 32 45 21 | 94
20 Full Plate Armor 20 45 45 22 50 30 48 45 50 50 | 96

armor skill required = (20 * hindrance percentage from the chart) - 10
Example: To cast a ranger spell in brigandine with 6% hindrance you need (20*6)-10 or 110 skill.

If you do not have the skill required, spell hindrances will increase up to "Max" hindrance depending on how short you fall from the requirements.

Type LOOKUP HINDERANCE1 for rank requirement table.
[=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=]
>
Tridanth snaps his fingers.
>LOOKUP HINDERANCE1
You focus your mind and search for "HINDERANCE1" on the PsiNet Library.

>
[=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=]
Article "Hinderance1" [AID #189]

Hindrance/skill/ranks
1% 10 2
2% 30 6
3% 50 10
4% 70 15
5% 90 20
6% 110 27
7% 130 35
8% 150 50
9% 170 70
10% 190 90
11% 210 110
12% 230 130
13% 250 150
14% 270 170
15% 290 190
16% 310 210
17% 330 230
18% 350 250
19% 370 270
20% 390 290
21% 410 310
22% 430 330
23% 450 350
24% 470 370
25% 490 390
26% 510 410
27% 530 430
28% 550 450
29% 570 470

After 29, just use: 20 * (# - 29) + 470 = ranks required
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[Edited on 8-17-2004 by Bobmuhthol]

[Bobmuhthol]

OH I LOVE THAT FORMATTED TEXT.

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Wizards also don't belong in GemStone. They really really really suck at wearing armor.

From a guy that had to buy his way to lvl 60......

[Edaarin]

^

From the guy that sells level 30 and other characters like candy.

[AnticorRifling]

I give most of them away, ahole. Don't you have some logs to forge or something?

[fallenSaint]

Right this post got all sorts of fun replies and lots of numbers just to verify for my own sake ... 28 ranks for Encumberance off Brig?

[Bobmuhthol]

30.

[fallenSaint]

Thx

:drunk: