Life Sucks, Buy Someone A Helmet

[Latrinsorm]

Jason Collins has made $34 million dollars in his NBA career and received nearly universal support after he came out. Gay marriage is inexorably sweeping the nation. Everything is fine for gays now, right?

http://giveout.razoo.com/story/Lagayandlesbiancenter

Imagine being completely rejected by your family, kicked out of your home, and left to believe you’re worthless. Imagine having nowhere to go, nothing to eat, and no money in your pocket. This is the reality for homeless LGBT youth.

Where do they go? More than any other city, they come to Los Angeles, where LGBT youth represent a whopping 40% of the 9,500 homeless young people who live on our streets each year.

They stream into the city from around the nation, and once here, must contend with the hostile realities of life on L.A.’s streets.

Within one week, most of these youth will have been beaten and robbed of all of their worldly possessions, which they are likely to have carried in a backpack.
Within one week these kids will have used narcotics for the first time to stay awake through the night.
Within one week, these kids will have performed their first act of survival sex, not for cash, but for a place to stay.

No organization in the country does more for LGBT youth than the Center. Please join us on National Give Out Day by making an investment in the Center’s work and the youth who rely on us. All contributions made today will be generously matched by the Sawchuk Family Foundation, dollar for dollar up to $5,000.

Together, we can save lives and provide these kids with…

Hot meals
Warm beds
Emergency clothing and showers
Counseling
Help finishing high school, getting a GED and getting a job
Transitional housing

More than all of this, we provide these youth with hope and an opportunity to grow and heal. But, we can’t do it without supporters like you. Please take this opportunity to invest in our vital work.

http://giveout.razoo.com/story/Lagayandlesbiancenter

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Humans can be horrible, stubborn, spiteful, and amazing.

Pick your side.

[AnticorRifling]

What about the straight kids on the street don't you care about them too Latrin? Pick your side.

[Latrinsorm]

How many straight kids get thrown out by their parents because of their sexuality, Mr. Rifling?

[Tgo01]

How many straight kids get thrown out by their parents because of their sexuality, Mr. Rifling?

Gay parents do it all the time.

"I didn't raise you to reproduce!"

[thefarmer]

How many straight kids get thrown out by their parents because of their sexuality, Mr. Rifling?

The various polygamist sects of Mormonism doesn't release their information.

[Methais]

What about the straight kids on the street don't you care about them too Latrin? Pick your side.

Super Anticor is right. All gays want is to just be treated equally. Giving them special treatment over straight people just makes them weak and will turn them into this guy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT714mG17bA

Which will result in this happening:
http://youtu.be/bfL4GMFrRGI

[AnticorRifling]

How many straight kids get thrown out by their parents because of their sexuality, Mr. Rifling?

So if they're thrown out for any other reason it doesn't matter and if they don't meet the criterion of being LGBT then they shouldn't be helped. I'm on to you and your hate organizations.

[Latrinsorm]

You'll never run out of excuses. That's what humans do.

[Delias]

This thread is retarded. And queer.

[Methais]

This thread is fat too.


http://youtu.be/RzHyeMaHm2s

[Gelston]

Sucks for them. Perhaps they should, I don't know, go find a job or join the military or something. It is fairly illegal to immediately kick someone out of a property they have lived at for a certain period of time.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

This thread is fat too.


http://youtu.be/RzHyeMaHm2s

If you are so fucking fat you cannot climb a ladder, why the hell would you go on WipeOut?

[Methais]

If you are so fucking fat you cannot climb a ladder, why the hell would you go on WipeOut?

The worst part was that despite having someone in front of her pulling, and a dude behind her pushing (desperately, as evidenced by him ramming his head up her ass), and she was still nothing but pure dead weight.

How the fuck does someone become that much of a useless pile of sludge?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Jason Collins has made $34 million dollars in his NBA career and received nearly universal support after he came out. Gay marriage is inexorably sweeping the nation. Everything is fine for gays now, right?

http://giveout.razoo.com/story/Lagayandlesbiancenter

Imagine being completely rejected by your family, kicked out of your home, and left to believe you’re worthless. Imagine having nowhere to go, nothing to eat, and no money in your pocket. This is the reality for homeless LGBT youth.

Where do they go? More than any other city, they come to Los Angeles, where LGBT youth represent a whopping 40% of the 9,500 homeless young people who live on our streets each year.

They stream into the city from around the nation, and once here, must contend with the hostile realities of life on L.A.’s streets.

Within one week, most of these youth will have been beaten and robbed of all of their worldly possessions, which they are likely to have carried in a backpack.
Within one week these kids will have used narcotics for the first time to stay awake through the night.
Within one week, these kids will have performed their first act of survival sex, not for cash, but for a place to stay.

No organization in the country does more for LGBT youth than the Center. Please join us on National Give Out Day by making an investment in the Center’s work and the youth who rely on us. All contributions made today will be generously matched by the Sawchuk Family Foundation, dollar for dollar up to $5,000.

Together, we can save lives and provide these kids with…

Hot meals
Warm beds
Emergency clothing and showers
Counseling
Help finishing high school, getting a GED and getting a job
Transitional housing

More than all of this, we provide these youth with hope and an opportunity to grow and heal. But, we can’t do it without supporters like you. Please take this opportunity to invest in our vital work.

http://giveout.razoo.com/story/Lagayandlesbiancenter

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Humans can be horrible, stubborn, spiteful, and amazing.

Pick your side.

Not to nitpick, but I'm gonna anyway. What studies/statistics show that "most" LGBT youth kicked out of their home are robbed of all possessions, use drugs and perform survival sex within one week?

Something so shocking as that would surely be all over the news you'd think.

Also, at what age can a parent kick out a child and it not be against the law? Is it 16 or something?

[Tgo01]

How the fuck does someone become that much of a useless pile of sludge?

Years of hard work. Or is that years of no work?

[Whirlin]

How the fuck does someone become that much of a useless pile of sludge?

Fleurs.

[Androidpk]

With all the cock sucking that goes on in LA you'd figure the homeless gay kids would have an advantage of the straight ones.

[Latrinsorm]

Not to nitpick, but I'm gonna anyway. What studies/statistics show that "most" LGBT youth kicked out of their home are robbed of all possessions, use drugs and perform survival sex within one week?I encourage you to call them up and ask, I have no doubt they would be more than happy to talk to you at great length about it. Here (http://laglc.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=contactus) is their contact page.
Something so shocking as that would surely be all over the news you'd think.It is very interesting how most people are of the opinion that the news goes out of their way to report horrific and sensationalist stories, and yet they barely scrape the surface of how bad things can get in America.
Also, at what age can a parent kick out a child and it not be against the law? Is it 16 or something?I googled it for you, and there is an exception to at least one law that demands parents provide for their children:

(c) When a youth under the age of 21, leaves home without parental consent and without "good cause," or refuses to obey the reasonable rules set by their parents, the young person may forfeit his/her claim to parental support. If the child leaves home because the conditions are unbearable, the parents may not be relieved of the obligation to support the young person. However, the young person may have to bring the parents to Family Court to obtain support in such cases.

My own emphasis added, and cue Methais' delightful "it's okay to be gay so long as you're not a faggot" meme that he in no way personally endorses, ha ha ha, get it? Thousands of teenagers living on the street in terror. Ha ha ha!

Also, consider it from the position of a suddenly homeless 15 year old. You didn't know the law, why would they? With what resources would they obtain the services of a lawyer to bring a civil suit against their parents? How long would that take?

[AnticorRifling]

But why do you only want to help the LGBT ones? Wouldn't you want to help all homeless teenagers? Reading their mission statement they make no mention of helping any and all...just LGBT. They also only want to focus on "their" community. Doesn't that seem wrong to you Latrin?

[Whirlin]

If there is a hostile environment in the home and the community... why would prevent a single universal teenager assistance fund from reflecting that same hostile environment?

[Tgo01]

What have LGBT teenagers done for me lately?

[Latrinsorm]

I want to devote extra (which is not to say devote exclusively) to LBGT teens because they are targeted for extra hardships (which is not to say exclusive hardships).

If you knew the opposing team blitzed 70% of the time, would you tell Aaron "Peyton Luck" Rodgers to watch for the blitz 50% of the time or 70% of the time?

[Parkbandit]

http://www.troll.me/images/obama-isnt-happy/not-this-shit-again.jpg

Every special little group has it so hard.... boo fucking hoo....

[Delias]

What have LGBT teenagers done for me lately?

Guessing this is where the selling sex thing comes into play.

[Methais]

My own emphasis added, and cue Methais' delightful "it's okay to be gay so long as you're not a faggot" meme that he in no way personally endorses, ha ha ha, get it?

You're right, acting like a faggot is not ok. This applies to straight people too, some of which I'm sure you have called a fag at some point in your life, despite you being aware of their lack of gayness.

Example:
Tamral was being a fag when he threatened to run over some cyber cafe hacker's cat.

[Androidpk]

What have LGBT teenagers done for me lately?

Didn't they get you a ticket to RtCF?

[AnticorRifling]

I want to devote extra (which is not to say devote exclusively) to LBGT teens because they are targeted for extra hardships (which is not to say exclusive hardships).

If you knew the opposing team blitzed 70% of the time, would you tell Aaron "Peyton Luck" Rodgers to watch for the blitz 50% of the time or 70% of the time?

Your analogy doesn't make sense.

I'm betting hardships on the streets are hardships on the streets. And by last count you have devoted exclusive effort, unless my search failed me where you were wanting us to buy helmets for straight homeless kids in which case I apologize.

[Parkbandit]

We should collect money and donate helmets like this:

http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2011/03/02/mai6_HOnkC_37155.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Your analogy doesn't make sense.

I'm betting hardships on the streets are hardships on the streets. And by last count you have devoted exclusive effort, unless my search failed me where you were wanting us to buy helmets for straight homeless kids in which case I apologize.

These are SPECIAL hardships on the street though.

SPECIAL!

Why do you hate gay people so much??

[Latrinsorm]

Every special little group has it so hard.... boo fucking hoo....Yes, apparently they do. It's as if there is a historically homogeneous group that has enjoyed great power and wealth in this country, no?
You're right, acting like a faggot is not ok. This applies to straight people too, some of which I'm sure you have called a fag at some point in your life, despite you being aware of their lack of gayness.

Example:
Tamral was being a fag when he threatened to run over some cyber cafe hacker's cat.From what I can find of that time period I was in fact critical of Tamral for both his felinicidalism and homophobia. The trouble with "everyone else does it" is that there's always someone that doesn't, so what's your excuse? Not that I'm declaring I am and always have been, just making a general remark.
Your analogy doesn't make sense.Your polo shirt doesn't make sense. I'll get personal. I'll go there. (I'm sorry boopie, you know I say these things because I love you.)

The bottom line is that some people are disproportionately targeted, so to get them to the point of equal hardship (America!), they have to be disproportionately protected.
I'm betting hardships on the streets are hardships on the streets. And by last count you have devoted exclusive effort, unless my search failed me where you were wanting us to buy helmets for straight homeless kids in which case I apologize.I did not realize it was incumbent upon me to direct you people to every worthy charitable cause. Given the pushback I received after asking people to donate to cancer research (to cure it, I mean), which seems about as uncontroversial as it can get, I feel justified in restricting my pleas.

[Keller]

What about the straight kids on the street don't you care about them too Latrin? Pick your side.

I don't think Mr. Sorm was saying we shouldn't care about straight homeless kids.

[Keller]

But why do you only want to help the LGBT ones? Wouldn't you want to help all homeless teenagers? Reading their mission statement they make no mention of helping any and all...just LGBT. They also only want to focus on "their" community. Doesn't that seem wrong to you Latrin?

Every organization has a target.

The NRA supports the second amendment. Does it seem wrong to you that the NRA doesn't want to support the rest of the Bill of Rights?

[Methais]

From what I can find of that time period I was in fact critical of Tamral for both his felinicidalism and homophobia. The trouble with "everyone else does it" is that there's always someone that doesn't, so what's your excuse? Not that I'm declaring I am and always have been, just making a general remark.

There is no "excuse". My point is you don't have to be gay to be a faggot.

[TheEschaton]

Why fund cancer research? Don't all people who die of disease deserve equal attention?

Your argument is specious, AR.

[Delias]

Cancer is caused by like a billion different things. I promise you, no cure is coming. Plenty of treatments are coming, though.

[Latrinsorm]

My point is that your children will be embarrassed of you, and your children's children, and your children's children's children. In 30 years random strangers will read transcripts of this board (I will devote my life to ensuring this happens) and be as indifferently embarrassed as people were for Tommy Lasorda, or for whomever the racist manager was in that Jackie Robinson movie. Is it poetic justice that behaving in the way that yesterday passed as normal will in the future be perceived as freakish and incomprehensible? No. There is no poetry, there is just suckage.

So buy someone a helmet. You'll feel better. :)

edited to add: Initially directed at Methais, although I'm sure Delias did something to deserve it as well. >:-( No, I'm just playing.

[Methais]

My point is that your children will be embarrassed of you, and your children's children, and your children's children's children. In 30 years random strangers will read transcripts of this board (I will devote my life to ensuring this happens) and be as indifferently embarrassed as people were for Tommy Lasorda, or for whomever the racist manager was in that Jackie Robinson movie. Is it poetic justice that behaving in the way that yesterday passed as normal will in the future be perceived as freakish and incomprehensible? No. There is no poetry, there is just suckage.

So buy someone a helmet. You'll feel better. :)

edited to add: Initially directed at Methais, although I'm sure Delias did something to deserve it as well. >:-( No, I'm just playing.

What makes you think children 30 years from now will even know how to read? They barely can today as it is.

[Ryvicke]

Lol at pretending to not understand why a non-profit has a core mission. Just as stupid as Atlanteax wondering if Alex had $50/hour to pay his entire team.

I predict embarrassing things for this thread. Great cause though, massive problem. Donate.

[Keller]

What makes you think children 30 years from now will even know how to read? They barely can today as it is.

Terrible.

Take a lap, Methais.

[AnticorRifling]

Why fund cancer research? Don't all people who die of disease deserve equal attention?

Your argument is specious, AR.

If cancer is the bad thing, and homelessness is the bad thing then wouldn't the group fighting homelessness want to help everyone with it?

Cancer research is to cure cancer for all, homelessness support should be for all yes?

Now don't take me wrong I do think getting kids off the street is important but the target should be all kids.

You're argument is festisio, there I can make up words too.

[AnticorRifling]

Every organization has a target.

The NRA supports the second amendment. Does it seem wrong to you that the NRA doesn't want to support the rest of the Bill of Rights?


I agree, but when I don't agree with the target, just like I don't agree with or support the NRA...

[AnticorRifling]

I don't think Mr. Sorm was saying we shouldn't care about straight homeless kids.

I know, but that doesn't mean I can't give him shit.

I'm not saying I don't care about homeless LGBT kids either.

[Keller]

If cancer is the bad thing, and homelessness is the bad thing then wouldn't the group fighting homelessness want to help everyone with it?

Cancer research is to cure cancer for all, homelessness support should be for all yes?

Now don't take me wrong I do think getting kids off the street is important but the target should be all kids.

You're argument is festisio, there I can make up words too.


How about breast cancer research?

How many levels must you be proved wrong before you stop trying to look foolish?

[Keller]

I agree, but when I don't agree with the target, just like I don't agree with or support the NRA...

People that don't support the NRA come out and say they are opposed to liberal gun rights. They don't hide behind a specious argument that the NRA is bad because they don't raise awareness for the rest of the Bill of Rights.

[AnticorRifling]

How about breast cancer research?

How many levels must you be proved wrong before you stop trying to look foolish?

Breast cancer for all women though right...not just the straight or gay ones?

Bad thing removed for all who are under the effect of the bad thing. Why is this hard for you?

[AnticorRifling]

People that don't support the NRA come out and say they are opposed to liberal gun rights. They don't hide behind a specious argument that the NRA is bad because they don't raise awareness for the rest of the Bill of Rights.

I've said in the past and I'll say it again I don't like the NRA because the NRA only wants what's best for the NRA. I do like how specious is now the go to word, we should make every thread have a go to word.

[Keller]

Breast cancer for all women though right...not just the straight or gay ones?

http://i.imgur.com/ojtVjSR.gif

[AnticorRifling]

So now you see what I'm saying and you're sorry. I accept your apology.




Also specious.

[Keller]

I do like how specious is now the go to word, we should make every thread have a go to word.

Specious is a perfect word for the "LGBT homelessness charity is bad because they don't raise money for straight homelessness" argument. It is specious.

[Keller]

So now you see what I'm saying and you're sorry. I accept your apology.


http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/bubba-watson-handshake.gif

[AnticorRifling]

Bad? No. Just that I didn't agree with exclusion of a group of people because they didn't fit a myopic criterion. I would prefer to support a homeless shelter that helps homeless people not X homeless people but not Y homeless people.

I find it oddly hypocritical in the quest of equality....and specious.


Bad thing = homeless teens

Good solution = provide support for ALL homeless teens

Bad solution = only help certain teens


Both you and theE counter with WHAT ABOUT CANCER?!

Replace cancer with homeless teens in the above and change teens to people in both solutions. See how it's bad?

Throw away the labels in front of the people, and help the people...oh shit mind blown

[Keller]

But what about homeless adults? Are you ageist now?!?

And why limit your cause to homelessness, don't people with homes need our help? How homeist of you.

And why just people? Don't animals deserve our concern?

And why just living beings? Don't rocks deserve our concern?

And why just matter on Earth, doesn't extraterrestrial matter matter?

Do I need to continue, or are you going to continue your charade?

[Ryvicke]

Effective outreach and problem-solving: working with limited dollars in a specific community with a specific set of stakeholders, utilizing a set of subject-matter experts.

Ineffective outreach: thinking that teen homelessness is the same as street homeless.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I don't care much about any able bodied and mentally capable homeless person.

Children shouldn't be on the street, and there are laws to prevent that is my understanding (see Latrin's post). For the record, I don't consider a 18 year old a child, but it looks like they are covered until 21...

Latrins example was a 15 year old thrown out... if you tell me a high school age child doesn't know about child protective services, I believe you are misinformed.

[Ryvicke]

I don't care much about any able bodied and mentally capable homeless person.

Children shouldn't be on the street, and there are laws to prevent that is my understanding (see Latrin's post). For the record, I don't consider a 18 year old a child, but it looks like they are covered until 21...

Latrins example was a 15 year old thrown out... if you tell me a high school age child doesn't know about child protective services, I believe you are misinformed.

High School kids don't understand the support structures in place for them, if any. You overestimate the bandwidth of CPS. Non-profits fill the void.

[AnticorRifling]

But what about homeless adults? Are you ageist now?!?

And why limit your cause to homelessness, don't people with homes need our help? How homeist of you.

And why just people? Don't animals deserve our concern?

And why just living beings? Don't rocks deserve our concern?

And why just matter on Earth, doesn't extraterrestrial matter matter?

Do I need to continue, or are you going to continue your charade?

Please continue, but moving forward include the word specious or I won't know it's really you. Just remember that if you don't continue then you're not on the side of amazing. Pick your side.

[Methais]

But what about homeless adults? Are you ageist now?!?

And why limit your cause to homelessness, don't people with homes need our help? How homeist of you.

And why just people? Don't animals deserve our concern?

And why just living beings? Don't rocks deserve our concern?

And why just matter on Earth, doesn't extraterrestrial matter matter?

Do I need to continue, or are you going to continue your charade?

Something about take a lap.

[Keller]

Please continue, but moving forward include the word specious or I won't know it's really you. Just remember that if you don't continue then you're not on the side of amazing. Pick your side.

It was somewhat rhetorical.

I covered all matter, both terrestrial and extra terrestrial. I guess our hypothetical support organization would need to include anti-matter in its mission statement.

I don't have the technical knowledge of quantum physics to go further than anti-matter.

[Keller]

Something about take a lap.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/wildcatjerrod/Dive.gif

[AnticorRifling]

HAHAHA he almost had it...

[Methais]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/wildcatjerrod/Dive.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5JmxfVD0Pg

[Warriorbird]

I'm glad my girlfriend didn't record my cruise ship glass door fail.

[Methais]

I'm sad that she didn't.

[Warriorbird]

I'm sad that she didn't.

I think she is too. I don't think she stopped laughing for five minutes. I feel really bad for the random cruise ship staffer I mojitoed.

[Keller]

Thank you for your submission, but only entries ending in .gif will be accepted.

Thanks and please try again!

[Methais]

http://img4.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-cat-door-fail-608984.gif

[Latrinsorm]

Breast cancer for all women though right...not just the straight or gay ones?

Bad thing removed for all who are under the effect of the bad thing. Why is this hard for you?Just a PSA, men can get breast cancer too.
And why just living beings? Don't rocks deserve our concern?This might not be politically correct, and I may be an amazingly rugged individual for going against that, but rocks have been sighted at every major terrorist attack. Have you ever heard any denunciations from those supposed moderate rocks? Me neither.
Latrins example was a 15 year old thrown out... if you tell me a high school age child doesn't know about child protective services, I believe you are misinformed.Many high school children are misinformed, just look at Bob. He didn't know anything until he was (luckily) offered a real world 6 figure job in the real world, now things he say could be right.