Suck a dick, Jarvan

[Bobmuhthol]

I am not going to spend the time looking for it, but Jarvan at one point said something like, "If you're so good, why isn't anyone paying you six figures for your advice?"

I got a 150-200k offer today. Fuck you.

[saturn101]

Congratulations!!

[diethx]

How do you get a 150-200k offer? You must not mean just salary? Some sort of variable bonus aspect or something?

[Bobmuhthol]

Bonus is 25-75k.

[msconstrew]

I assumed he meant a base salary plus unknown benefits and bonus.

ALSO: Congratulations Alex! That is wunderbar!

[diethx]

Bonus is 25-75k.

Are you going to take it?

And congrats dude.

[Bobmuhthol]

I'm waiting to hear back from a different company, less money but I don't have to move. Thanks for the congratulations, all.

[Delias]

Nice job man.

[Nieninque]

Not bad for a 16 year old. Good job dude.

[diethx]

I'm waiting to hear back from a different company, less money but I don't have to move. Thanks for the congratulations, all.

Oh. Where is this other job?

[Back]

Ain't no shame in his game! Well done, sir.

[Bobmuhthol]

In CT near NYC.

[diethx]

At least you'd be moving somewhere nice, should you choose to take it.

[FlayedAngel]

Nice work, grats!

[Showal]

Good work, Bob

[AnticorRifling]

Rule 1) There's more to life than money. I'm making less than I could because of the intangible benefits (getting to leave when I want so I can take my kids to the zoo, baseball games, etc) which were worth more than the bump in pay elsewhere. Make sure you factor in stuff like that if it's important to you. So if you've got a hobby that really makes you happy and the lower paying one allows you to do more of it weigh that heavily.

Either way congrats on getting in to your field and stepping into corporate 'murica.

[msconstrew]

There's more to life than money.

You shut your mouth, commie.

[diethx]

Rule 1) There's more to life than money. I'm making less than I could because of the intangible benefits (getting to leave when I want so I can take my kids to the zoo, baseball games, etc) which were worth more than the bump in pay elsewhere. Make sure you factor in stuff like that if it's important to you. So if you've got a hobby that really makes you happy and the lower paying one allows you to do more of it weigh that heavily.

Either way congrats on getting in to your field and stepping into corporate 'murica.

So true. I could make more elsewhere, but the culture here, the people I work with, the flexibility... all worth it.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Grats man. Not many jobs out there pay a fresh out of college person six figures, let alone $150-$200k. What will you be doing?

[Back]

Rule 1) There's more to life than money. I'm making less than I could because of the intangible benefits (getting to leave when I want so I can take my kids to the zoo, baseball games, etc) which were worth more than the bump in pay elsewhere. Make sure you factor in stuff like that if it's important to you. So if you've got a hobby that really makes you happy and the lower paying one allows you to do more of it weigh that heavily.

Either way congrats on getting in to your field and stepping into corporate 'murica.

My grandpa told me never to discuss my salary with anyone. He felt it was poor to brag and discussing such things inevitably leads to awkward situations. This is a different time though. If you have the swag, use it. Just keep it cool.

[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah, I care a lot about location and flexibility. The difference right now is like 2.5-3x, and the other place pays hourly with little/no benefits (but you get paid for every hour!), so I told them to give me 2/3 more than their first offer. We'll see what happens.

[Atlanteax]

Now you can officially be GnomeRage's sugar-daddy.

[Bobmuhthol]

Grats man. Not many jobs out there pay a fresh out of college person six figures, let alone $150-$200k. What will you be doing?Data analysis.

[msconstrew]

Rule 1) There's more to life than money. I'm making less than I could because of the intangible benefits (getting to leave when I want so I can take my kids to the zoo, baseball games, etc) which were worth more than the bump in pay elsewhere. Make sure you factor in stuff like that if it's important to you. So if you've got a hobby that really makes you happy and the lower paying one allows you to do more of it weigh that heavily.

Either way congrats on getting in to your field and stepping into corporate 'murica.

Actually, in all seriousness, this is why I went in-house. But (and this is a big but) when you're young and you want to make money, it's okay to compromise on flexibility and time and other things in order to get the experience and make the money. I worked 90 hours a week for five or six years and I was exhausted, but I don't regret it at all.

[AnticorRifling]

But (and this is a big butt) and I cannot lie.

[Kastrel]

Nice job on netting the excellent paying job offer. I hope the other aspects of the job are at least reasonable. Enjoy the windfall!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Data analysis.

Wow that's huge. Market data from Kenexa for an entry level financial analyst role in the northeast has total targeted cash of $54k in the finance and accounting industry. That's averages from Hewitt, Mercer, Towers Watson and Western Management anyway. What's the revenue and # of FTE at that company and I can narrow it down even more.

[Tisket]

I am not going to spend the time looking for it, but Jarvan at one point said something like, "If you're so good, why isn't anyone paying you six figures for your advice?"

I got a 150-200k offer today. Fuck you.

haha, that is fantastic. The only downside is that it isn't on the right coast. But there are pitfalls in every job I suppose.

[Stanley Burrell]

Good luck in Greenwich. And congrats.

[Tisket]

Nice job on netting the excellent paying job offer. I hope the other aspects of the job are at least reasonable. Enjoy the windfall!

It's not a windfall. They aren't giving him money because they are nice that way. He'll be earning it.

[DoctorUnne]

Congrats

[Bobmuhthol]

Wow that's huge. Market data from Kenexa for an entry level financial analyst role in the northeast has total targeted cash of $54k in the finance and accounting industry. That's averages from Hewitt, Mercer, Towers Watson and Western Management anyway. What's the revenue and # of FTE at that company and I can narrow it down even more.It's not entry level financial analyst. The department currently does not exist. I would have to build it. It's also not something you're likely to have any data on, again, because there is none. I have no idea what the title would be, and it doesn't matter to me.

[AnticorRifling]

It's not entry level financial analyst. The department currently does not exist. I would have to build it. It's also not something you're likely to have any data on, again, because there is none. I have no idea what the title would be, and it doesn't matter to me.

Demand "Vice President, intergalactic travel"

PS Fun fact: bosses do, in fact, get irritated when you order business cards with that on them.

[msconstrew]

It's not a windfall. They aren't giving him money because they are nice that way. He'll be earning it.

Thank you. Thank you so much for saying this. He went to school, he got multiple degrees, and now he's going to get paid for using those degrees. Not. A. Windfall.

[AnticorRifling]

Thank you. Thank you so much for saying this. He went to school, he got multiple degrees, and now he's going to get paid for using those degrees. Not. A. Windfall.

You're just saying that because he's white.

[msconstrew]

You're just saying that because he's white.

Obviously.

[TheEschaton]

Grats man. Not many jobs out there pay a fresh out of college person six figures, let alone $150-$200k. What will you be doing?

He's not fresh out of college, he's graduating with a masters from MIT. Big difference.

[crb]

Thank you. Thank you so much for saying this. He went to school, he got multiple degrees, and now he's going to get paid for using those degrees. Not. A. Windfall.

Isn't he still in school? I recall a thread from like a month ago where he said he was just starting grad school. Which makes this whole thing confusing.



It's not entry level financial analyst. The department currently does not exist. I would have to build it. It's also not something you're likely to have any data on, again, because there is none. I have no idea what the title would be, and it doesn't matter to me.

I don't like you, you don't like me. But I'll offer you congratulations on entering the real world/maybe/eventually, not clear when you're starting...

But... be careful... Things that aren't established, things you have to build, these things have potential to disappear out from under you.

Also remember if you really do make that much uncle sam is going to stop subsidizing your student loan interest via the tax deduction, since I know you took out the maximum, make sure you plan on that.

[diethx]

He's about to graduate from grad school.

[AnticorRifling]

But... be careful... Things that aren't established, things you have to build, these things have potential to disappear out from under you. What if you have someone else build it for you?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Most corporations participate in salary surveys, so I likely do have it or something like it, even if it's not from the specific company your offer came from. In either case, it wasn't a dig at you, I was just saying that's a great offer. Compensation is what I do so the information is readily available to me, so I was just sharing what a great offer it was based on what I knew.

[Warriorbird]

Congratulations Alex. In some crazy way I feel like you're the collective spawn of this place, but the real truth is you worked incredibly hard, pursued opportunities for yourself, and demonstrated the value of attaining a superior education. I hope you get all that you deserve and that includes a lot more challenge.

[AnticorRifling]

Congratulations Alex. In some crazy way I feel like you're the collective spawn of this place, but the real truth is you worked incredibly hard, pursued opportunities for yourself, and demonstrated the value of attaining a superior education. I hope you get all that you deserve and that includes a lot more challenge.

Would you consider those challenges physical?

[EasternBrand]

Congratulations! I expect that once you're an official finance bro, the outfits thread will feature a whole lot more French cuff and 180 degree spread collar.

[Gnome Rage]

In CT near NYC.

Wanna buy the house I grew up in?

[TheEschaton]

Yeah, Alex, that'll give you an inside track on most of her daddy issues.

[AnticorRifling]

Yeah, Alex, that'll give you an inside track on most of her daddy issues.

Just find out what cologne he wears. Boom, done.

[AnticorRifling]

Congratulations! I expect that once you're an official finance bro, the outfits thread will feature a whole lot more French cuff and 180 degree spread collar.

LOL that does seem to be the uniform, excellent call.

[Gnome Rage]

LOL that sounded creepier than I meant it.

I lived in SW CT for my entire life man. IT sucks, good luck!

[crb]

What if you have someone else build it for you?

Like Obama?

I'm just saying, the statistics on new ventures succeeding are not good, be they new businesses or new divisions in an existing business (depending of course on mommy's size). Some companies get workers by promising the moon.... so just be careful, especially in the financial industry which very recently went through significant downsizing. Don't get spendy with that new paycheck.

[Keller]

Congrats on the job, Alex.

Now go build yourself a 14,000 square foot custom home.

[Warriorbird]

Would you consider those challenges physical?

He may indeed have to fight off GR with a stick.

[AnticorRifling]

He may indeed have to fight off GR with a stick.

Damnit I set you up for a joke and you RUINED it.

[Delias]

LOL that sounded creepier than I meant it.

I lived in SW CT for my entire life man. IT sucks, good luck!

I lived in the tiny town of Clinton for a couple of years. I liked it- enough trees to get by and close to the water.

[Jarvan]

Wow, I get my own thread.

Congrats on the job. Hope it works out for you. Guess you proved me wrong.

New company that doesn't exist yet(or you won't name), with a department you have to build up, doing data analysis. Either you will be making 200k no problem, or when you get there, you will be the mail clerk. I hope it's the first, I really do.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Wow, I get my own thread.

Congrats on the job. Hope it works out for you. Guess you proved me wrong.

New company that doesn't exist yet(or you won't name), with a department you have to build up, doing data analysis. Either you will be making 200k no problem, or when you get there, you will be the mail clerk. I hope it's the first, I really do.


Your congratulations doesn't sound very sincere...

[Showal]

Wow, I get my own thread.

Congrats on the job. Hope it works out for you. Guess you proved me wrong.

New company that doesn't exist yet(or you won't name), with a department you have to build up, doing data analysis. Either you will be making 200k no problem, or when you get there, you will be the mail clerk. I hope it's the first, I really do.

Lol

[Kranar]

Well done Sir, well done.

[AnticorRifling]

Wow, I get my own thread.

Congrats on the job. Hope it works out for you. Guess you proved me wrong.

New company that doesn't exist yet(or you won't name), with a department you have to build up, doing data analysis. Either you will be making 200k no problem, or when you get there, you will be the mail clerk. I hope it's the first, I really do.

Talk about going the route of the titty baby.

[Jarvan]

Your congratulations doesn't sound very sincere...

Frankly, I am happy for him. Now he will learn what it's like to be an adult.

You can be happy for someone, and still be a dick you know.

[TheEschaton]

Frankly, I am happy for him. Now he will learn what it's like to be an adult.

You can be happy for someone, and still be a dick you know.

But can you suck one?

[Kranar]

>My grandpa told me never to discuss my salary with anyone. He felt it was poor to brag and discussing such things inevitably leads to awkward situations. This is a different time though. If you have the swag, use it. Just keep it cool.

I feel the opposite should be the case. People should be transparent and willing to discuss salaries so that job offers and negotiations can be handled much more fairly. Right now for the most part when people get a job offer of $X, because it's so taboo to discuss salaries, that person has no idea if that offer is fair or too little. The person making the offer has a lot of information about salaries, but the person receiving the offer has next to none, so there is a great deal of information asymmetry.

The situation is a lot better now with a lot of sites providing salary statistics, but really there's nothing shameful or boastful about saying what your salary is.

[Jarvan]

But can you suck one?

Nope, sorry. I don't Neil and Bob.

[subzero]

What if you have someone else build it for you?

If you build it, they will come.

[Jarvan]

>My grandpa told me never to discuss my salary with anyone. He felt it was poor to brag and discussing such things inevitably leads to awkward situations. This is a different time though. If you have the swag, use it. Just keep it cool.

I feel the opposite should be the case. People should be transparent and willing to discuss salaries so that job offers and negotiations can be handled much more fairly. Right now for the most part when people get a job offer of $X, because it's so taboo to discuss salaries, that person has no idea if that offer is fair or too little. The person making the offer has a lot of information about salaries, but the person receiving the offer has next to none, so there is a great deal of information asymmetry.

The situation is a lot better now with a lot of sites providing salary statistics, but really there's nothing shameful or boastful about saying what your salary is.

I agree with this, there really is no reason to hide it, Although, there is a point it does start to get boastful. I mean, if your CEO of a company, and your pulling in 1 mill in salary and bonuses of 8 figures, then your just bragging.

[Latrinsorm]

In CT near NYC.You could hang out with me and Stanley!!!!
I lived in SW CT for my entire life man. IT sucks, good luck!Don't listen to this lying liar and her lies!!
Yeah, Alex, that'll give you an inside track on most of her daddy issues.You're getting a little awkward.

[Keller]

>My grandpa told me never to discuss my salary with anyone. He felt it was poor to brag and discussing such things inevitably leads to awkward situations. This is a different time though. If you have the swag, use it. Just keep it cool.

I feel the opposite should be the case. People should be transparent and willing to discuss salaries so that job offers and negotiations can be handled much more fairly. Right now for the most part when people get a job offer of $X, because it's so taboo to discuss salaries, that person has no idea if that offer is fair or too little. The person making the offer has a lot of information about salaries, but the person receiving the offer has next to none, so there is a great deal of information asymmetry.

The situation is a lot better now with a lot of sites providing salary statistics, but really there's nothing shameful or boastful about saying what your salary is.

My peers and I compare salaries/bonuses/raises all the time. I think it's important to do within a given field for the reasons you wrote.

I think it is an entirely different beast to tell people on a forum about a text-based role playing game how much you make. That is just bragging and has very little, if any, value to the reader.

[msconstrew]

People should be transparent and willing to discuss salaries so that job offers and negotiations can be handled much more fairly. Right now for the most part when people get a job offer of $X, because it's so taboo to discuss salaries, that person has no idea if that offer is fair or too little. The person making the offer has a lot of information about salaries, but the person receiving the offer has next to none, so there is a great deal of information asymmetry.

Totally agree. There are some trade publications and organizations that can give you a sense of the general range, but the best way to know if you're being appropriately compensated (as compared to the market) is to talk to other people in similar positions.

[diethx]

I have no idea how that ended up in this thread. I guess I brainfarted.

[leifastagsweed]

Way to go on the recognition for hard work and best of luck with the new venture. :)

[Back]

>My grandpa told me never to discuss my salary with anyone. He felt it was poor to brag and discussing such things inevitably leads to awkward situations. This is a different time though. If you have the swag, use it. Just keep it cool.

I feel the opposite should be the case. People should be transparent and willing to discuss salaries so that job offers and negotiations can be handled much more fairly. Right now for the most part when people get a job offer of $X, because it's so taboo to discuss salaries, that person has no idea if that offer is fair or too little. The person making the offer has a lot of information about salaries, but the person receiving the offer has next to none, so there is a great deal of information asymmetry.

The situation is a lot better now with a lot of sites providing salary statistics, but really there's nothing shameful or boastful about saying what your salary is.

What happened? Did the markets close already? Did you find .002 seconds out of your day to actually troll a message board?

Clearly we agree. A general idea of salary should not be censored. But in pleasant company it turns into bad business.

[Bobmuhthol]

I haven't read this thread since I last posted but I turned it down for 50/hr in Boston.

[SHAFT]

I don't want anyone knowing how much I make. I wouldn't discuss my earnings with anyone other than my fiance.

Congrats on the gig though Bob. Hope it goes through and is everything you've hoped for.

[Stretch]

Congratulations, that's awesome.

Don't go out of your way to call people out for saying stupid things at work.

[Tgo01]

That's awesome Bob, congratulations.

Have any money I can borrow?

[StrayRogue]

Our little boy is growing up...

So proud.

[Bobmuhthol]

Like Obama?

I'm just saying, the statistics on new ventures succeeding are not good, be they new businesses or new divisions in an existing business (depending of course on mommy's size). Some companies get workers by promising the moon.... so just be careful, especially in the financial industry which very recently went through significant downsizing. Don't get spendy with that new paycheck.Funding isn't an issue. It's backed by billions in liquid capital. It's a new subsidiary company, not a new company self starting.

I decided (a lot) fewer hours and location preference were worth the difference. I feel a lot more comfortable capping at 40 hours or earning overtime compared to an expectation of 12 hour days and weekend work.

[crb]

Funding isn't an issue. It's backed by billions in liquid capital. It's a new subsidiary company, not a new company self starting.

I decided (a lot) fewer hours and location preference were worth the difference. I feel a lot more comfortable capping at 40 hours or earning overtime compared to an expectation of 12 hour days and weekend work.

Well that is good, but even billion dollar corporations make mistakes, new coke. So still, don't get spendy.

But overtime? You'll be an hourly worker? Normally at that pay level you're salary and overtime isn't something you get, in my experience anyways. One of the downsides of that white collar.

[diethx]

Do you even bother reading other people's posts, crb? He turned down the 150k job for $50/hr in Boston. Jesus fucking shit.

[senorgordoburro]

CRB is always right, he is like one of the highest EXP sorc's in the game.

YOU CAN'T TALK TO HIM LIKE THAT.

[DCSL]

YOU CAN'T TALK TO HIM LIKE THAT.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4540544000/h52187920/

[4a6c1]

Grats Alex. I called it.

[Jarvan]

Funding isn't an issue. It's backed by billions in liquid capital. It's a new subsidiary company, not a new company self starting.

I decided (a lot) fewer hours and location preference were worth the difference. I feel a lot more comfortable capping at 40 hours or earning overtime compared to an expectation of 12 hour days and weekend work.

So just over 100k a year basically, Congrats again, you got me.

[Drew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmvGbqsnolY

[Showal]

So just over 100k a year basically, Congrats again, you got me.

I think the point of the thread is that you can suck a dick.

[msconstrew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmvGbqsnolY

That was offensively bad. Ugh.

[Keller]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmvGbqsnolY

Remember when I said you and Drew2 were hardly distinguishable? Posting songs from Rent won't help.

[Drew]

(9:09:58 PM) Keller: posting musicals, eh?
(9:10:23 PM) Drew: I just think, ya know, that measuring our worth by money, ya know is like really shallow
(9:10:40 PM) Drew: and I just want to start being part of the solution and you know, not the problem
(9:11:12 PM) Keller: I feel you.

[Back]

So just over 100k a year basically, Congrats again, you got me.

Good sport.

[Gsgeek]

Congrats on the new job. Hope it goes well. Like someone said earlier, Im kind of surprised they didn't salary that position at that pay rate. Wouldnt think they'd want to risk having to pay overtime rates if that was a possibility. Course salary has its pros and cons like most things. More work flexibility in hours and schedule usually vs the companys ability to take advantage of you in working more hours at the same pay(at least up to a point.) Anyway, good luck.

[Atlanteax]

When Alex said he had to build the department ... I'm sorta wondering if the salary figure he was quoted reflects the salary budget for the department-to-be where the wages for his potential underlings will be coming out of said quoted salary figure.

[diethx]

LOL. Yes, because they told him that he would personally make that money but forget to tell him that he would have to share his salary with the people he hired.

Derp derp derp.

[AnticorRifling]

When Alex said he had to build the department ... I'm sorta wondering if the salary figure he was quoted reflects the salary budget for the department-to-be where the wages for his potential underlings will be coming out of said quoted salary figure.

Possibly the dumbest shit you've ever posted...easily the dumbest post in this thread.

[Whirlin]

If they're paying you hourly, are you considered a contractor?

[AnticorRifling]

If they're paying you hourly, are you considered a contractor?

You can be FTE and hourly...

[msconstrew]

You can be FTE and hourly...

I think you still end up getting that sweet, sweet perk of overtime, though. Oh overtime... the only thing better is a generous profit-sharing plan.

[Whirlin]

You can be FTE and hourly...
You CAN be... but it's unusual, especially at that hourly rate, and is worth raising the question about being a contractor, which would have large implications towards overall compensation.

[crb]

Do you even bother reading other people's posts, crb? He turned down the 150k job for $50/hr in Boston. Jesus fucking shit.

Saying I fuck shit is entirely uncalled for. I do not fuck shit sir.

[Methais]

When Alex said he had to build the department ... I'm sorta wondering if the salary figure he was quoted reflects the salary budget for the department-to-be where the wages for his potential underlings will be coming out of said quoted salary figure.

What the hell is wrong with you?

[Parkbandit]

What the hell is wrong with you?

^^

Come on Bad Tie... even you have to admit that was retarded.

[Bobmuhthol]

If they're paying you hourly, are you considered a contractor?For the job I took, yes. I'm a de facto consultant, my paycheck is going to come from the firm that recruited me, and they collect fees from the company I'll be working for.

[diethx]

So you're a consultant, not a contractor. As in... you're not considered a 1099 employee? That's really where the tax implications lie.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Contracting is a great gig in the right company! Grats again Bob.

[BriarFox]

Congratulations, Alex. Sounds like a lucrative and fabulous start!

[Bobmuhthol]

So you're a consultant, not a contractor. As in... you're not considered a 1099 employee? That's really where the tax implications lie.I believe it's W-2, not 1099, so yeah for tax purposes not an independent contractor. I'm getting a 401(k), etc.

[Whirlin]

I've looked into doing that through Robert Haft International in Boston as one of their professional consultant gigs. If that's the company, sounds good, you'll be set for a while. At least the recruiting company will handle providing benefits rather than needed to go through enrolement as a solo person, and dealing with the taxes hassle afterwards,

As long as in your employment contract, the responsibility to find work is on the recruiting company to find you work, and that they will continue to compensate you between projects for up to X months in the event of no work/contract. Then you're all set. I know when I was first looking out of school, I wasn't established enough for them to guarantee that to me initially out of school. It was after my first job that they offered me the 'professional' consultant gig, rather than being just a professional temp basically.

[diethx]

I believe it's W-2, not 1099, so yeah for tax purposes not an independent contractor. I'm getting a 401(k), etc.

Ok, yeah, that's fab. Congrats again!

[Bobmuhthol]

It's a different company, but similar, based in a suburb. They kept assuring me that the company I'm going to keeps people on long term as consultants, as much as 7 years in some cases. I'll have to see about compensation between jobs, but I figured this would be long enough (the hiring manager explicitly said it's not one project and there's a lot to get done) that I could find something else by the time it ended if I needed to.

[Bobmuhthol]

Ok, yeah, that's fab. Congrats again!Thank you!*

* This includes everyone else who congratulated me earlier.

[BigWorm]

Basically the consulting firm is your pimp. This isn't that bad of an arrangement as long as they are a good pimp. Also important to remember that you have the upper hand in this relationship and don't have to take any shit from them.

[Bobmuhthol]

Basically the consulting firm is your pimp. This isn't that bad of an arrangement as long as they are a good pimp. Also important to remember that you have the upper hand in this relationship and don't have to take any shit from them.I figured this out pretty quickly. When I told them I had the other offer, I was going to get $30/hr, and I said I'd go with them for $50.

[Whirlin]

It's a different company, but similar, based in a suburb. They kept assuring me that the company I'm going to keeps people on long term as consultants, as much as 7 years in some cases. I'll have to see about compensation between jobs, but I figured this would be long enough (the hiring manager explicitly said it's not one project and there's a lot to get done) that I could find something else by the time it ended if I needed to.
All the recruiters say that gigs are usually long term! Being on the consultant hiring side, I can assure you that shit happens within organizations hiring consultants, and nothing is guaranteed!

Other followup questions would be what happens in the event that you wish to switch companies that you're consulting for, what occurs in the instance of a bad performance review from the consulted company, or just simply not getting along with your employers due to differing personas.

Did you also interview with the hiring company that you would be working for, or is this offer contingent on being accepted into the position that they have lined up for you?

Sorry for the 20 questions, and really don't mean to cause any anxiety, just want to make sure that your ass is covered from my own experiences searching for jobs in the area. Jobs are relationships with a very short vetting process that are much more difficult to get out of if it turns abusive!

[Bobmuhthol]

I interviewed with the hiring company, and my employment with the consulting firm was contingent on being accepted there. I don't know the answers to the other questions. It's a company I would want to work for, and the hiring manager told me they don't take on young people as permanent employees.

[SHAFT]

Bob, I think you owe jarvan an apology.

[Bobmuhthol]

I'm not so sure.

[Showal]

I'm not so sure.

YES YOU DO, MAIL CLERK EXTRAORDINAIRE

[crb]

I'm suddenly reminded of those ads for things like mystery shoppers and commissioned sales representatives. Please tell me you didn't pay them any placement money or buy headshots or something.

[Bobmuhthol]

Uh...?

No, I didn't pay anyone anything. What are you talking about?

[diethx]

He's being a turd.

[Drew]

Uh...?

No, I didn't pay anyone anything. What are you talking about?

Scams where very good jobs are offered but there are "fees" up front. The job doesn't actually exist.

[Bobmuhthol]

Oh, well in that case, yeah, I gave them a check for $5,000. Did I make a mistake?

I thought it was a little weird when the investment management company was being run out of a home office, but hey, quants will be quants, right?

[Tgo01]

5000 dollars is fine. 10,000 dollars is scam worthy.

[Showal]

Oh, well in that case, yeah, I gave them a check for $5,000. Did I make a mistake?

Don't worry about it. I paid $1500 to claim a lottery winning in a foreign country, just quit my job and I'll be getting $15 million in winnings. Sometimes you pay a little to get a lot.

[diethx]

lol

[Tgo01]

Don't worry about it. I paid $1500 to claim a lottery winning in a foreign country, just quit my job and I'll be getting $15 million in winnings. Sometimes you pay a little to get a lot.

Do you remember playing in this lottery?

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

I had to give all my information and 800 bucks to a Prince who was about to be overthrown and deported from Zaire, he's going to give me 12,510,342 USD in return for my help. You have to spend money to make money!

[Showal]

Do you remember playing in this lottery?

Mistakes happen every day. It is not my fault they contacted the wrong person. Once I get the money, I'm pulling all the money out so they can't get it back.

[Keller]

I'm suddenly reminded of those ads for things like mystery shoppers and commissioned sales representatives. Please tell me you didn't pay them any placement money or buy headshots or something.

The kid has a degree from Bentley and grad degree from MIT. He's not looking for jobs on craigslist.

[diethx]

HOW DO YOU KNOW OKAY KELLER? JEEEEEZ

[Tgo01]

The kid has a degree from Bentley and grad degree from MIT. He's not looking for jobs on craigslist.

Like big time financial firms are too good to advertise on Craigslist?

[Delias]

Like big time financial firms are too good to advertise on Craigslist?

Even I am too good to advertise on craigslist. Me.

[Bobmuhthol]

A lot of recruiters (not financial firms themselves, but their recruiters) use craigslist. I got a lot of interest from responding to craigslist ads. The position I took I didn't ask for, the recruiter came to me after seeing my resume on Monster.

[Latrinsorm]

Monster dot com, singular?

[Showal]

Monster dot com, singular?

Amazingly, just 24 hours ago I would not have gotten this. Good work. I applaud both of us.

[Moonwitch]

My grandpa told me never to discuss my salary with anyone. He felt it was poor to brag and discussing such things inevitably leads to awkward situations. This is a different time though. If you have the swag, use it. Just keep it cool.

There is a very good chance that your grandfather lived through the great depression. You will find that people that lived through that period of time have a very different view on money, employment and their bosses. They were thankful just to have a job when so many people didn't have jobs and they were thankful to the person that gave them that job. It is a very different world.

[Jarvan]

There is a very good chance that your grandfather lived through the great depression. You will find that people that lived through that period of time have a very different view on money, employment and their bosses. They were thankful just to have a job when so many people didn't have jobs and they were thankful to the person that gave them that job. It is a very different world.

This is very true. My great grandmother (she already had multiple kids from a previous marriage) married a man she didn't really like because he had land and could grow his own food. Probably the only reason I am here is because of that. I'd say that even the next generation didn't really discuss it, because they still grew up with it, but now, it's kinda the norm.

I am sure there are a number of people here that wish she hadn't, huh.

[Androidpk]

Jarvan is here because of potatoes. Who would have thought.

[Whirlin]

The kid has a degree from Bentley and grad degree from MIT. He's not looking for jobs on craigslist.
Wait wait wait... Bob... you went to Bentley?

[Showal]

Jarvan is here because of potatoes. Who would have thought.

,Unfortunately, the only product of this marriage resulted in jarvan who carries a congenital defect called retardism.

[Jarvan]

Jarvan is here because of potatoes. Who would have thought.

Actually, I don't think they grew potatoes, my area is a big corn area really. I am sure they had potatoes for personal consumption. My Gran did have great Rhubarb plants.


,Unfortunately, the only product of this marriage resulted in jarvan who carries a congenital defect called retardism.

Wrong actually, I am from one of the kids she had before the marriage. My great gran didn't have any kids with the man.

[Androidpk]

Actually, I don't think they grew potatoes, my area is a big corn area really. I am sure they had potatoes for personal consumption. My Gran did have great Rhubarb plants.

Did she also have great big tracts of land as well?

[Delias]

I am sure there are a number of people here that wish she hadn't, huh.

Don't be ridiculous. I am sure there are plenty of people everywhere wishing that.

[Keller]

Wait wait wait... Bob... you went to Bentley?

Would I say it if it weren't true?

[AnticorRifling]

Did she also have great big tracts of land as well?

Huuuuuge tracks of land!

[Showal]

Actually, I don't think they grew potatoes, my area is a big corn area really. I am sure they had potatoes for personal consumption. My Gran did have great Rhubarb plants.



Wrong actually, I am from one of the kids she had before the marriage. My great gran didn't have any kids with the man.

Good correction

[Latrinsorm]

I laughed, then sighed that I had wasted my rep for you on your good (but not great) RSVP comment. The sun has gone down.

[Showal]

I laughed, then sighed that I had wasted my rep for you on your good (but not great) RSVP comment. The sun has gone down.

Don't fret.

[Bobmuhthol]

Wait wait wait... Bob... you went to Bentley?You bet I did. Eco-fi.

[Wudd]

Congratulations on the job :) I made the mistake of deciding to "take off" a year of school (was pursuing a BS in comp. sci.) and work to save up money. My parents couldn't help much with tuition, I lived on campus, and didn't receive a lot of financial aid (couple grants/scholarships, but I was paying about 75% of the cost). Got a job at the company I still work for doing data entry, then just never got around to going back to school after getting sucked into the job and promoted a couple times. Now I'm a project manager for three different projects at the company I work for. Had I stayed in school, I'm sure I would be making a higher salary than I do now, and I may eventually go back, but good on you for sticking through it all the way to your masters!

Before I entered the position I'm in now I was offered either salary or hourly. Five years later I really wish I had taken hourly. Having a little more flexibility on when I work is nice, and I can do a fair amount of work from home each day, but I would have actually ended up making a fair bit more with OT pay. I currently work 12-14 hour days and every other weekend, and on especially busy periods can expect to work 16+ hours a day. It's exhausting, but I really like the work I do and most of the people I work with. That said, an extra 25k+ a year from overtime pay would be nice.

[Showal]

Are we posting our own job stories now? I thought this thread was about jarvan sucking dick.

[Keller]

Are we posting our own job stories now? I thought this thread was about jarvan sucking dick.

So now we know what Bob, Wudd, and Jarvan do for a living.

Who is next?

[msconstrew]

So now we know what Bob, Wudd, and Jarvan do for a living.

Who is next?

Um, excuse me, Keller. I think we all know what I do for a living.

[Androidpk]

I thought this thread was about jarvan sucking dick.

I thought it was about bob offering jarvan a dick to suck on.

[Wudd]

Sorry, didn't mean to derail from the dick sucking ;)

Nonetheless, congrats to Bob on the job and fortitude for sticking with school.

[Delias]

So now we know what Bob, Wudd, and Jarvan do for a living.

Who is next?

I post on the PC for a living. At least it pays as well as most other activities I engage in.

[Bobmuhthol]

Are we posting our own job stories now? I thought this thread was about jarvan sucking dick.I appreciated the story.

[Whirlin]

You bet I did. Eco-fi.

Damn... I graduated Bentley back in 2008 with Masters of Accountancy like 80% of graduates... Followed by a slew of good jobs...

Was the president of the BSGO from fall 2004 to spring 2007 too. Dunno if you were a member or too good for that back then :p

[zzentar]

Congrats on the job,
don't know you but from a bystander point of view,
Its kinda sad that you need to prove something on a game chat board.
If you are happy and going right places, more power to you and I hope your luck continues.

I bet Bill Gates went to his His school reunion in a diamond crusted limo, money doesn't make a man but often changes his character. Be 'the man' and be thankful for what ya have
~Zz

[diethx]

It's not luck. He worked hard and earned this.

Someone sounds a little jealous, no?

[Tgo01]

Fellate a penis, zzentar!

[zzentar]

i knew this would happen, not jealous at all. I make a very good living and am very happy with my life.

[Bobmuhthol]

Damn... I graduated Bentley back in 2008 with Masters of Accountancy like 80% of graduates... Followed by a slew of good jobs...

Was the president of the BSGO from fall 2004 to spring 2007 too. Dunno if you were a member or too good for that back then :pHaha, yeah, I was in BSGO.

[zzentar]

just curious, what in my post made me sound jealous and that luck was involved? (combined those two replies, thought you might need help comprehending) I never said that nor implied it.

[SHAFT]

So now we know what Bob, Wudd, and Jarvan do for a living.

Who is next?

I'm a professional craps player and in my spare time I like to pleasure women for money. True story.

[Bobmuhthol]

i knew this would happen, not jealous at all. I make a very good living and am very happy with my life.That's awesome and everything, but I was attacked and "discredited" for not being paid 100k+ while claiming that I knew what I was talking about. That's all.

[Latrinsorm]

Fellate a penis, zzentar!Doesn't fellating presuppose a penis?
just curious, what in my post made me sound jealous and that luck was involved? (combined those two replies, thought you might need help comprehending) I never said that nor implied it.I think this line:

<< Its kinda sad that you need to prove something on a game chat board. >>

[Tgo01]

Doesn't fellating presuppose a penis?

...

Shut up!

[diethx]

Its kinda sad that you need to prove something on a game chat board.

That sounds like jealousy.


I hope your luck continues.

...

[Tgo01]

just curious, what in my post made me sound jealous and that luck was involved?

Probably the part where you mentioned luck.

[Androidpk]

Doesn't fellating presuppose a penis?

Only on Earth.

[zzentar]

Doesn't fellating presuppose a penis?I think this line:

<< Its kinda sad that you need to prove something on a game chat board. >>

WUT? I asked a question and the best you could do was repeat it? I really don't know you either but I expected better than that about an, in my opinion, opinion that was thought out and not inflammatory

[Latrinsorm]

I'm not sure "repeat" means what you think it means. If you will excuse me I obviously need to apply to Andy's school of pleasuring women (majoring in Terran, no offense Venetians).

[Showal]

Bob, this was attributed to good luck. But whoa whoa whoa ... who said I said this was attributed to luck? And please don't repeat what I said. That's really the best you could do? I don't know you. You mother fuckers can't see me.

[Stretch]

Bob IS pretty lucky.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY

[Showal]

FELLATE A PENIS,STRETCH!

[msconstrew]

Its kinda sad that you need to prove something on a game chat board.


The entire point of the thread and original post was to disprove an assertion another player made about Bob's employability. So yeah, his salary is relevant. I don't think you're jealous; I just think you missed the point.

[Bobmuhthol]

Bob, this was attributed to good luck. But whoa whoa whoa ... who said I said this was attributed to luck? And please don't repeat what I said. That's really the best you could do? I don't know you. You mother fuckers can't see me.I love this.

[Drisco]

I didn't open this thread because I thought it was about Jarvan, and was like pfft, who wants to read that.

Congrats on the Job!!

[Ryvicke]

The entire point of the thread and original post was to disprove an assertion another player made about Bob's employability. So yeah, his salary is relevant. I don't think you're jealous; I just think you missed the point.

I don't think we agree here. This is like if Methais made a huge thread about banging a girl on this message board but started it by saying, "I got a rep six months ago I think that said I was gay. Here's why I'm not."

Now someone make a thread where we all post our salaries.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

BSGO = Boi Scouts, Gays Only?

[msconstrew]

Now someone make a thread where we all post our salaries.

I cannot even imagine the comments and rep that such a thread would generate.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I cannot even imagine the comments and rep that such a thread would generate.

I make more than Bob, but I'm like 20 years older than he is :( Can I throw in my benefits package? That's a lot of money!

[msconstrew]

I make more than Bob, but I'm like 20 years older than he is :( Can I throw in my benefits package? That's a lot of money!

Go ahead, B! Make the thread!

[Ryvicke]

Do an anonymous poll thread so we can gauge the collective.

[msconstrew]

I actually feel like a thread like that would be pretty offputting. Like a humble-brag or something. Or just a regular brag. I share the info with anyone who asks, but I don't know that a poll is appropriate.

[Keller]

Damn... I graduated Bentley back in 2008 with Masters of Accountancy like 80% of graduates... Followed by a slew of good jobs...

Was the president of the BSGO from fall 2004 to spring 2007 too. Dunno if you were a member or too good for that back then :p

Did you happen to know Erin Regan?

[Ryvicke]

I actually feel like a thread like that would be pretty offputting. Like a humble-brag or something. Or just a regular brag. I share the info with anyone who asks, but I don't know that a poll is appropriate.

But it would be anonymous! And we could all gauge our life value against Bob. We could title it, "Are You Richer than a Fifth Grader?"

[msconstrew]

LOL. Let's put our net worths, too!

[Keller]

I actually feel like a thread like that would be pretty offputting. Like a humble-brag or something. Or just a regular brag. I share the info with anyone who asks, but I don't know that a poll is appropriate.

Or it could be interesting.

I am curious what it would take to build a 14,000 square foot custom home on top of a mountain.

[Bobmuhthol]

BSGO = Boi Scouts, Gays Only?Bentley Student Gaming Organization

[Keller]

Bentley Student Gaming Organization

So the most nerdy of the nerds?

[Whirlin]

So the most nerdy of the nerds?

It was purely a gaming club... Back when it was created it was both board games and computer games. The name was specifically selected so that we would be able to 'sell' the club membership, while making it seem to be an academic program, based on strategy and higher level thinking rather than just sitting around playing Halo.

We received funding from the school on a semesterly basis. During my reign, we received about 10-15k per semester to invest towards video games, consoles, and computer upgrades for the dozen desktops that we maintained.

We hosted competitions with Brandeis, a neighbor school, as well as series of competitions on campus... Although, unfortunately, when I was attending, we had a world-class Halo Player living in my dorm... so it deterred a lot of more prominent players from attending. We did Halo, Starcraft 1&2, Super Smash Brothers. We even rented out the school's pub a few nights and set up Rock Band nights with an open bar.

So yes... we were nerds, but we also received funding, used organization skills, and didn't have a retarded organization name, so that it could be used to help us build our careers. Clearly that shit helped both Bob and I.

[Whirlin]

Did you happen to know Erin Regan?

Nah... found her on facebook, looks like she was graduating when I was a freshman... don't know her.

[AnticorRifling]

Are we posting our own job stories now? I thought this thread was about jarvan sucking dick.

Wouldn't that be Jarvan's job story?

[crb]

Or it could be interesting.

I am curious what it would take to build a 14,000 square foot custom home on top of a mountain.

If you're genuinely curious, pm me, and I will tell you.

[Bobmuhthol]

Papers are signed, starting in two weeks, fellating penises all around.

Thanks again for everyone's support.

Also this is a really good case study in why HR departments are crippling companies' talent acquisition. I've never had a bad conversation with a hiring manager, but I don't get in front of enough of them.

[4a6c1]

Papers are signed, starting in two weeks, fellating penises all around.

Thanks again for everyone's support.

Also this is a really good case study in why HR departments are crippling companies' talent acquisition. I've never had a bad conversation with a hiring manager, but I don't get in front of enough of them.

That's fantastic. Let us know how it goes. And amen to that part about HR departments. I refuse to work with non-contracters for this reason. Recruiters and hiring managers can usually spot talent in the first 10 minutes. They don't waste their time and they're usually honest about what they need.

[Showal]

Wouldn't that be Jarvan's job story?

Yeah, I've come to realize that he's just a dick sucking mail clerk.

[4a6c1]

Aren't we all?