How many of you multi account?

[Baerlynd]

I used to look down my nose at MAers. Now, because of my work schedule, it looks like it could save me some time and silver. Is MAing a hot button issue? Is it cheating? How many accounts and what type (premium, regular) work well? Is it douchy to ask this?

[AestheticDeath]

How many accounts and what type (premium, regular) work well?

Depends on why you are doing it.

[SHAFT]

I use 2 accounts. One for my main, the other for fogging, spell ups, holding items, etc. Both premium. Might as well collect PP's.

[Tisket]

When I first played GS, at one point I had two premium and one regular account. Now it's just one regular account with one character on it.

[Tgo01]

I multi account the entire city of Teras.

[Gelston]

Two is good for casual play.

[diethx]

lol, cheating.

[Drew]

I did a poll a while ago the majority of people multi-account.

[Tgo01]

Yeah, if I had to guess I'd say more people multi account than don't these days.

[SHAFT]

Having 2 accounts and being able to provide myself with spells is worth every penny I pay to simu. Trying to get a spell up from someone else sucks.

[Baerlynd]

Depends on why you are doing it.

That's a good point. I'm a nurse. I work nights. I work 12 hour shifts, so it's hard to get on a day schedule. I also really like River's Rest. It's nice to have a pocket rogue and empath available. When I do get three or more days off in a row, it's much more fun to socialize, but that is usually only a couple times a month.

[Elvenlady]

I have two premium accounts purely because I prefer to play my own PC family members plus the extra locker space is always a bonus.

[Tgo01]

Most people don't care if you multi account these days, though some places like River's Rest prefer it if you don't make it so obvious that you're multi accounting.

[Tgo01]

I have two premium accounts purely because I prefer to play my own PC family members plus the extra locker space is always a bonus.

You need two premium accounts for locker space? How many clothes do your characters need?

[Allereli]

You need two premium accounts for locker space? How many clothes do your characters need?

GS Barbies need a lot of clothes.

[AestheticDeath]

I would personally do what I could with the cheapest cost, since the game is already overpriced. So two regular accounts, two slaves on the second account. $33 or whatever.

If you were active enough though, you could use three accounts, purposely get wounded in combat if possible without dying, then when you go back to town to pick boxes, get healed by the empath, and go back to hunt while both slaves are absorbing experience.

[Tisket]

I had so much fluff when I had all my accounts and I still wanted more. I'm a greedy barbie.

[Allereli]

I do one premie, one regular. I'm probably different from others in that I put my main on my regular account and the mules/other characters are on the premium. I've enjoyed this setup for years. I'm going to hate paying to upgrade the regular account for a month to be able to get it to RtCF

[Baerlynd]

I do one premie, one regular. I'm probably different from others in that I put my main on my regular account and the mules/other characters are on the premium. I've enjoyed this setup for years. I'm going to hate paying to upgrade the regular account for a month to be able to get it to RtCF

That is what I was considering. I hadn't thought it through to the point of having to upgrade for special events though. Damn.

[msconstrew]

Two premium memberships. I like the ability to have my PCs meet on FWI, spell each other up, etc. Very convenient.

[Jace Solo]

I've got one with two characters and then one with slaves, not Prem yet but probably will be for the RtCF set up

[Suppressed Poet]

Two basic accounts. One character is just there to hold extra stuff and locker space, plus spell up the character I actually play. Sadly, this is cheaper than one premium account which makes absolutely no sense to me. Unlike a lot of people, I think the price for basic is totaly fine and worth paying. Premium costing an additional $25 a month for what it offers, just doesn't make much sense to me. And considering an extra character spot is what, $5?...just made sense to get a spell slave account. But enough of that..

To answer the cheating question, I don't think it is in the least bit. You pay for it, and it's an option available.

The only pet peave of mine is if someone is playing so many that all RP or interaction with one character goes out the window just to keep up with the group. If you can play and hunt with 5-6 characters, more power to you. I had trouble with hunting two (tried it), because I found it complicate and not very enjoyable to script hunt one and/or toggle. Even still, that is a peave but still I wouldn't classify it as "cheating."

[Candor]

Yeah, if I had to guess I'd say more people multi account than don't these days.

Yet another reason why most folks would not put me under the heading "most people"

One account, now and forever, ya money wastin varmits.

[Merala]

I share six accounts between three people. It's very useful. I only recommend doing this with people you know in RL. One's in my family, the other is my boyfriend of four years...

[Whirlin]

I now have 2 accounts.

My main with Whirlin, my bard, and my cleric, as well as one mule (Premium)
And then a new account with a Sorcerer I purchased recently (to basically just spam-hunt, max ensorcell) (not premium)

I hunt Whirlin with the sorc, and it's fun. Haven't set up bigshot or anything, since my mage hunting is a bit... neurotic? in terms of actions performed in circumstances... would be beyond my scripting abilities.
Sorc scripting is easy... just 719 everything.

[KneeCapper]

One account and one player. If you can't hunt self spelled well then ......

[Suppressed Poet]

So do you just alt+tab two windows? I tried that with my mage as its pretty much incant either 906 or 908, but felt it was a big pain in the ass. Then when I setup bigshot, i couldn't get it to work like I wanted and after a good 2-3 hours I considered flinging poop at my monitor before I gave up.

[Baerlynd]

One account and one player. If you can't hunt self spelled well then ......

I can hunt self spelled with ease. That's not the issue that is leading me to consider a second account.

[Suppressed Poet]

I can hunt self spelled too, but I can uphunt much higher and therefor hunt faster / get better loot with some good outside spells.

Considering I have limited time to play and usually can't get through my gift in a week, I don't feel the least bit bad about it.

[Whirlin]

So do you just alt+tab two windows? I tried that with my mage as its pretty much incant either 906 or 908, but felt it was a big pain in the ass. Then when I setup bigshot, i couldn't get it to work like I wanted and after a good 2-3 hours I considered flinging poop at my monitor before I gave up.

Two monitors... which is a MUST when playing Gemstone in my opinion. Just really opens up the opportunity to script while quasi-paying attention while playing minecraft or watching a show on the other.

Since they're in the same room fighting, I don't really need to look at the second screen at all, just over to the mana bar for an occasional check. I keep a good mental note of what I want to do with each mob type. So like, on Gremlocks, I'll fire one arrow, and 719 them til death. On lich qyn'whatevers, I'll use a cast of 702 til I hit, then finish them with 906. Take down Construct shields with arrows, then 719 them down. etc, etc. And just balance out mana, send between eachother. It took about 5 hunts to get used to, where my Sorc was dying A LOT... but now I'm pretty used to it.

Since my Sorc is currently 6 levels under Whirlin, it's also RIDICULOUSLY fast to store all the necrotic Energy for Ensorcell. This week, it only took me about 9 hours of hunting. And since Whirlin and the Sorc hunt together, the loot seems to be through the roof, and I'm staying out there til I'm full of boxes.

Rustybeard has been making a fortune picking boxes for me when I'm hunting them.

[Fallen]

Not I. Could never stand the practice, in terms of running two characters at once. Too much of a pain.

[Wudd]

I don't. Don't really want to pay that much a month for GS. Have a couple alts, and main advantage I'd get from MA'ing would be ease of transferring money/items between characters.

[Kitsun]

Five basic accounts. Five characters.

[Donquix]

Two premium memberships. I like the ability to have my PCs meet on FWI, spell each other up, etc. Very convenient.

I did this as well. My "main" i would hunt with where ever and having a pocket empath/rogue/wizard/etc. without the annoyance of moving them all to a new area was nice. I would try to rely as much as I could on others for those services. Also allowed me to hunt and level multiple characters ( have severe altitis) by playing the new pet project character on the utility account when my main was resting.

[WRoss]

I used to MA. It started with just two, but at one point I was running up to 8. Most people don't seem to mind, but there are definitely those that are vehemently against it and will make you well aware of it.

[Velfi]

I have multiple accounts, and almost always hunt my THW empath and wizard together. I have two screens but they are both on the same one and I just alt-tab when hunting. As long as the tab order doesn't get messed up, it's pretty easy to keep track of both of them and having them complement each other pretty well.

[Donquix]

I used to MA. It started with just two, but at one point I was running up to 8. Most people don't seem to mind, but there are definitely those that are vehemently against it and will make you well aware of it.

The only time it bothered me was when they fully or semi afk hunt an area with a large number of accounts. Being out on a hunt then having the gen rate randomly explode only stays amusing for a very short time. Sucks having to send people a warning message when you see the Horde leave their resting spot.

[Jeril]

I started MAing just so my alts could get some playing time and actually level. It has worked out moderately well so far.

[whiteflash]

2 main accounts between my brother and I. We also have 4 others because we hate waiting for anything. Cleric, Empath, Rogue, Bard. Really only actively play our main's for xp though.

[Buckwheet]

I have quite a few open accounts. Mostly because my collection is large in terms of items and having a enchanter on each account allows them to mostly be self sufficient.

Playing eight at once can be fun. Mostly tho, I was in the process of building my eight man team to destroy warcamps and not go for xp gain. I can play them all solo, because I just haven't found the time I need to configure all the macros and scripts etc.

Eventually tho I suppose I would like to move towards a complimentary style of play with them but I enjoy running around solo a little too much.

[Methais]

lol, cheating.

Who the fuck even cares anymore?

I have 2 accounts. My other has my 58 cleric that I mostly use for spells and mana now, and gets most of his exp from raising people.

I recently reactivated my warrior on that account too just to join Sunfist with him so I can still do warcamps on Meth, since I just left Sunfist to join Voln again.

[Tisket]

I think she was loling at the idea of calling it cheating. That's how I read it anyway.

[milesalpha]

Well there was a time when it was cheating. It would be fun to transport everyone back in time for a day of original gemstoning.

[Allereli]

Well there was a time when it was cheating. It would be fun to transport everyone back in time for a day of original gemstoning.

all those game crashes? no thanks.

[milesalpha]

Really wasn't that bad, only when about 50 people got on at once.

[Methais]

Well there was a time when it was cheating. It would be fun to transport everyone back in time for a day of original gemstoning.

Back in that time, the population wasn't spread out all over the place either, since the only towns were the Landing. I don't know when Icemule came out, but it takes like 1 minute to get there anyway. Now we have 30 minute travels to/from EN, 10 hour boat schedules to Teras, and however long it takes to get to River's Rest since they removed the boot.

How long does it take to get to RR anyway? I miss the boot.

[milesalpha]

Oh the lands were very different back then, but the size really has changed much in over a decade now.

[Gelston]

Back in that time, the population wasn't spread out all over the place either, since the only towns were the Landing. I don't know when Icemule came out, but it takes like 1 minute to get there anyway. Now we have 30 minute travels to/from EN, 10 hour boat schedules to Teras, and however long it takes to get to River's Rest since they removed the boot.

How long does it take to get to RR anyway? I miss the boot.

You can get anywhere instantly, kthx! There is also a lot more per month cross realm transport options now (that the majority of players have access to)

[diethx]

I think she was loling at the idea of calling it cheating. That's how I read it anyway.

Yes, this. Before I finally sold out, I had like 5 accounts.

[Whirlin]

I'm not sure when you're referring to that it was ever declared 'cheating'. I'd need to see a policy about it, or hear a first person account of being banned. Frowned upon is one thing, but bannable and enforced is another.

Previously, it was unfeasible to MA, due to the accounts/characters being tied to your AOL Screen Name, or other ISP credentials, so being simultaneously logged in with two characters was unfeasible.

So, that means that when discussing MAing, we're mainly referring to post .net transition. After the .net transition, they really only cared about driving a profit. This is when they opened up multiple characters on one account, and solicited personal information about the players. As far as I remember, if you were willing to dish out the additional money for a second account, there were no policies that would prevent you from doing so. Furthermore, since you needed an e-mail and name/CC with the account, it's easily enforced.

Please elaborate on when MAing was against policies, and give specifics as to who has been banned for it categorized as 'cheating'.

[Fallen]

It's all about how you do it. If you're going to MA, show some class and at least try not to be glaringly obvious about it in public. Other than that, I don't think anyone should complain. MAing likely keeps GS alive.

[diethx]

No one ever said that it was illegal or bannable. Just that some people used to look down on MA'ers (which is why I find this whole thread pretty amusing, as the OP stated that they used to feel this way but now their hoity-toity opinion has changed because it will benefit them).

[Gelston]

I'm not sure when you're referring to that it was ever declared 'cheating'. I'd need to see a policy about it, or hear a first person account of being banned. Frowned upon is one thing, but bannable and enforced is another.

Previously, it was unfeasible to MA, due to the accounts/characters being tied to your AOL Screen Name, or other ISP credentials, so being simultaneously logged in with two characters was unfeasible.

So, that means that when discussing MAing, we're mainly referring to post .net transition. After the .net transition, they really only cared about driving a profit. This is when they opened up multiple characters on one account, and solicited personal information about the players. As far as I remember, if you were willing to dish out the additional money for a second account, there were no policies that would prevent you from doing so. Furthermore, since you needed an e-mail and name/CC with the account, it's easily enforced.

Please elaborate on when MAing was against policies, and give specifics as to who has been banned for it categorized as 'cheating'.

I MA'd in AOL before. I killed myself. A GM came down and tried to yell at me for unconsensual PvP, at which time I told them I was both characters. Baffled, they told me that I had better decay or else the cleric that raises me is abusing mechanics. It was fun.

[msconstrew]

Previously, it was unfeasible to MA, due to the accounts/characters being tied to your AOL Screen Name, or other ISP credentials, so being simultaneously logged in with two characters was unfeasible.



Yeah, I don't even know that MA'ing was possible back when I was playing through Prodigy. Because we were all connecting through a modem to the ISP, I guess you would have needed to have two phone lines and connect through those? I never really thought about it before.

But this is a silly discussion. MA'ing is totally acceptable, basically everyone does it, and it makes the game playable. And certainly Simu has made choices about creature design based on the assumption that people have access to spells... or so I assume, anyway, because otherwise their design choices are bizarre.

[Gelston]

Yeah, you needed two phone lines and two computers (unless you had a way to run the ISP program twice on the same computer) and two separate accounts.

My mom had an ancient (new at the time!) laptop from work and they used AOL for their company, and we had two phone lines because I was on the internet a lot.

[Candor]

Yeah, I don't even know that MA'ing was possible back when I was playing through Prodigy. Because we were all connecting through a modem to the ISP, I guess you would have needed to have two phone lines and connect through those? I never really thought about it before.

But this is a silly discussion. MA'ing is totally acceptable, basically everyone does it, and it makes the game playable. And certainly Simu has made choices about creature design based on the assumption that people have access to spells... or so I assume, anyway, because otherwise their design choices are bizarre.

Well I guess I don't qualify as part of "everyone", as I have only one account.

[Whirlin]

No one ever said that it was illegal or bannable. Just that some people used to look down on MA'ers (which is why I find this whole thread pretty amusing, as the OP stated that they used to feel this way but now their hoity-toity opinion has changed because it will benefit them).

I completely agree with you, but Milesalpha referred to it as 'cheating' in the previous post. Public opinion is not the same as the rules. Ideally they should coincide, but they usually don't.


Well there was a time when it was cheating. It would be fun to transport everyone back in time for a day of original gemstoning.

Cheating, by definition, is to violate rules or regulations. It's a stronger statement than saying that it is looked down upon, so I'm wondering what the rules/regulations, or first person accounts are that states that there are established rules that it's violating.

Although, Gelston's account seems pretty legit.

[Fallen]

It's like a sliding scale of "ehh."

MAing descretely on FWI or a table > MAing while hunting > MAing random people coming up to you in public to perform services without a word and logging out > Leaving your herd of unresponsive fucks standing around at a resting spot to service you when you get back.

Bonus points for naming them something retarded, like a one letter difference between them.

[Gelston]

Mine are all named Mevarin and Mxandalf and Meoghain. They are halflings.

[msconstrew]

Well I guess I don't qualify as part of "everyone", as I have only one account.

Amazingly enough, I said "basically everyone", take your nitpicking and shove it.

[kutter]

I started out as a one premium guy, then made a very good friend through here and we started sharing our accounts. I was a pure weapon swinger with a rogue and bard, now I have a cleric and wizard too so we can spell one another up completely. The only time I use a character from the other account besides spell-ups is to go with and cast haste or bind. It is to cumbersome for me to try and truly fight two characters and I do not script hunt so I just use them to support.

I do not see any issue with it and if I have two characters in I try very hard to RP both so it seems like it is two people playing them. Actually it has made me better at RP since I have to try to be someone else that I know they have crafted a personality for.

[milesalpha]

Sorry folks, but if you weren't at the ooc meetings in the early 90s you don't know what you are talking about. Most of what we did then was by agreement, it never had to be written down. MAing, and multiple people on one account were all discussed back then and it was a bannable offense. It was a different time and a different population back then.

[Methais]

I MA'd in AOL before. I killed myself. A GM came down and tried to yell at me for unconsensual PvP, at which time I told them I was both characters. Baffled, they told me that I had better decay or else the cleric that raises me is abusing mechanics. It was fun.

You should have had the dead character say, "It's ok, I consented. Now gtfo!"

[Gelston]

So you are referring to during ICE?

[milesalpha]

It's all about how you do it. If you're going to MA, show some class and at least try not to be glaringly obvious about it in public. Other than that, I don't think anyone should complain. MAing likely keeps GS alive.

Exactly the way I view it.

[DCSL]

Playing just one account is impossible for me. My main needs at least two mules to hold her crap and I can't even imagine trying to change her clothes every day I play with just one account. Ridiculous. I also have an addiction to rolling up new characters. If course, I play them until level ten and then abandon them when I get frustrated that they're not as powerful as my pure bard. But they're there!

I can't hunt both accounts at the same time so I mainly use them for spell support and failed characters. And lockerbitches.

[Buckwheet]

The thing I hate is that there are folks who hate on it, until they REALLY need it. Fallen's post is a decent example. I keep my guys mostly hidden away if I am slaving them. But people know that I have access to them all. So the other day someone died in Illistim and I was just chilling on the Dais and they REALLY wanted to get raised and healed.

I was just bumming around on my sorcerer and after tons of begging I logged in my empath and my cleric and healed/rezed them. I didn't give a shit about a tip, or RP, or anything, I just got tired of listening to the begging over lnet. To me it was the same as someone dragging their ass to the town cleric with the added benefit of a chrism.

Also, all the folks who have had Sabreon rescue them or their items from OTF know that even if you blatantly MA you can be responsible about it. I would like to think I am pretty responsible about it and try and help out when I can.

[milesalpha]

The thing I hate is that there are folks who hate on it, until they REALLY need it. Fallen's post is a decent example. I keep my guys mostly hidden away if I am slaving them. But people know that I have access to them all. So the other day someone died in Illistim and I was just chilling on the Dais and they REALLY wanted to get raised and healed.

I was just bumming around on my sorcerer and after tons of begging I logged in my empath and my cleric and healed/rezed them. I didn't give a shit about a tip, or RP, or anything, I just got tired of listening to the begging over lnet. To me it was the same as someone dragging their ass to the town cleric with the added benefit of a chrism.

Also, all the folks who have had Sabreon rescue them or their items from OTF know that even if you blatantly MA you can be responsible about it. I would like to think I am pretty responsible about it and try and help out when I can.

Sabreon's effect on the otf is another thing however, more than half of my deaths in otf can be attributed to his swarms. Seems a bit excessive to have 8 capped (and then some) people hunting the same things a 90ish wizard is hunting. Sabreon's a good guy when we talk privately, but my character will always despise the Dreadnaughts. It's been kind of fun really.

[Aluvius]

I have a second non premium account that I started when I came back a few years ago. As a warmage I found it virtually impossible to consistently find a bless for magical metal weapons. It was also moderately difficult to find someone who wanted to swap spiritual spells for elemental spells. So yeah, I made a new account to have access to blesses and a secondary function of spiritual spellups although being able to transfer items safely was about as important as the spellups.

Hmm, the simucoin store should sell an item messenger service.

[Allereli]

Hmm, the simucoin store should sell an item messenger service.

that's called player mail, a system that's been RSN for about 1/3 as long as monks were.

[Taernath]

I used to MA with a couple characters, and I'd alt-tab between them roleplaying in public when they weren't hunting or spelling each other up. It was actually a lot of fun, and I don't think anyone knew they were played by the same person.

[Suppressed Poet]

I tried that a few times, but I felt like it was a low point in my life RPing with myself. Now I just give away free spellups and mage services with the one I don't hunt with. Figure I might as well contribute with community service.

I hated asking for, and especially paying for spell ups, which was the main reason I transfered him to another basic account.

[msconstrew]

I used to MA with a couple characters, and I'd alt-tab between them roleplaying in public when they weren't hunting or spelling each other up. It was actually a lot of fun, and I don't think anyone knew they were played by the same person.

I do this all the time and it is a LOT of fun. None of my characters like each other and they are all incredibly rude and insulting to one another in a way that I'd never be if they were played by someone else.

[Suppressed Poet]

Oh and I've met some good people in GS, but I'd never consider sharing account info for a couple reasons. Too many things can go wrong and could ruin a friendship.. Plus I am very particular on my builds and play style. In the same token, I wouldn't dare playing their character because I wouldn't know how to. That's what makes that person unique and characters are a very personable thing.

[Gelston]

nerds

[Suppressed Poet]

I do this all the time and it is a LOT of fun. None of my characters like each other and they are all incredibly rude and insulting to one another in a way that I'd never be if they were played by someone else.

When I did RP my two, I came up with a backstory. My Dhe'nar mage traveled to the mountains in the north and became the captive of a Krolvin war party. My giant's clan raided their camp, freed him from captivity, and spared his life. The Dhe'nar then pledged, as part of his ancient traditions, to repay the debt by accompanying him and being an indentured servant. I liked the whole idea of a dark elf serving the "lesser" race. He struggles with his pride being at the service of someone he feels surperior to.

[Tgo01]

I don't recall MAing ever being against the rules (unless we're talking way way WAY back in the day) but I do seem to recall the GMs being none too happy about it. I also remember when they switched to the web you couldn't pay for more than one account with the same credit card.

[Suppressed Poet]

The GMs should be really happy. People who MA are by definition simutronics very best customers. If simutronics had any business sense, they would encourage it. I think they kind of have with RtCF.

[Gelston]

I don't recall MAing ever being against the rules (unless we're talking way way WAY back in the day) but I do seem to recall the GMs being none too happy about it. I also remember when they switched to the web you couldn't pay for more than one account with the same credit card.

You could, but you had to call the main office. They said it was for "security reasons" and not that they had a stance against MAing.

[msconstrew]

nerds

It is you who is the nerd!!!

[Tgo01]

You could, but you had to call the main office. They said it was for "security reasons" and not that they had a stance against MAing.

Oh yeah I remember that excuse now. Simu, looking after its customers since 1997.

[Buckwheet]

Sabreon's effect on the otf is another thing however, more than half of my deaths in otf can be attributed to his swarms. Seems a bit excessive to have 8 capped (and then some) people hunting the same things a 90ish wizard is hunting. Sabreon's a good guy when we talk privately, but my character will always despise the Dreadnaughts. It's been kind of fun really.

I don't understand your post, but I think do. Let me see if I get this right

1. You are upset that you died due to his swarms or upset that you died? What total number are we talking about here over what period of time? There is a big difference between 5+ times per week versus once or twice a month. Mostly just curious on this one.
2. If you were level 100 it would be okay that you died to his swarms, but since you are 90 it isn't?
3. If there were eight regular players inside OTF and you were inside OTF(like if GS was more popular) how would you deal with it?
4. OTF is segmented out I think in terms of where stuff spawns. I don't know what you are killing at level 90, but have you tried to go to the areas he is not in? I am pretty sure he sticks to the main area, not any of the woods.

I know his effect on OTF is very apparent. I usually move to a different area of OTF like north woods when he is in there and the swarms are not nearly as bad.

[Kalishar]

I've never tried MAing but since I've come back I've been giving it some serious thought. Right now I've got one premium account, but Ive been thinking of putting it down to basic, and opening another basic account to put some utility characters on. Cleric, wizard, bard on the utility and then leaving my main (rogue) and a warrior I used to enjoy playing on my original account.

Probably still end up cheaper than one premium. Losing all that locker space though, thats gonna hurt. Especially when I don't remember what half of the stuff in my lockers does.

[Taernath]

I tried that a few times, but I felt like it was a low point in my life RPing with myself.

lol, I know, right?

I wasn't just talking to myself in front of the bank though, it was more having an open conversation about recent events in a public area... usually other people would join in and it'd turn into an event by itself.

[Baerlynd]

So you do not have to call Simu to use the same credit card now?

[Allereli]

So you do not have to call Simu to use the same credit card now?

I didn't have to.

[Baerlynd]

Shit. I think I'll reactivate next week then.

[Suppressed Poet]

So you do not have to call Simu to use the same credit card now?

I know for a fact you don't. I use the same one for two accounts and I didn't have to call.

[Suppressed Poet]

I've never tried MAing but since I've come back I've been giving it some serious thought. Right now I've got one premium account, but Ive been thinking of putting it down to basic, and opening another basic account to put some utility characters on. Cleric, wizard, bard on the utility and then leaving my main (rogue) and a warrior I used to enjoy playing on my original account.

Probably still end up cheaper than one premium. Losing all that locker space though, thats gonna hurt. Especially when I don't remember what half of the stuff in my lockers does.

Two basics is much better than one premium. It's 10 bucks cheaper too.

You can have two lockers with 80 items in it if you join paupers on both. Beyond that, if you really need more just add another character and roll a giantman to mule your stuff. Still is 5 bucks cheaper than premium with the extra character.

[zzentar]

I can't think of her name but a great gal MA's third floor of Nelemar. I love it when she is there. She stirs up the creatures for faster hunts, heals you if you ask and rescues if you are dead. She has gone missing last few months.

[Methais]

4. OTF is segmented out I think in terms of where stuff spawns. I don't know what you are killing at level 90, but have you tried to go to the areas he is not in? I am pretty sure he sticks to the main area, not any of the woods.

Does OTF have any areas where mostly griffins spawn, or at least where scouts don't spawn?

I always thought it was dumb as hell to have critters in a capped area with a base level that's too low for a capped player to get exp from.

[Gelston]

I don't really consider OTF to be a real capped hunting area. Slightly precap, I mean... Yeah you can hunt there at cap, but you can hunt Nymphs at level 10 too. It has one level 100 critter there, but the next oldest thing is 3 levels under it then something 4 levels under it. The next critter? Level 93.

[Lolleia]

Does OTF have any areas where mostly griffins spawn, or at least where scouts don't spawn?

I always thought it was dumb as hell to have critters in a capped area with a base level that's too low for a capped player to get exp from.

Yeah, it's pretty sucky. It was actually proposed at the Illistim OOC meeting that they bump up the scouts one level for this very reason.

[zzentar]

It takes 20 minutes to fill in OTF vs 4 to 6 in Nelemar. Easy choice there.

[KneeCapper]

OTF needs a re-vamp agreed. Scouts need to be bumped up or secluded to the east and west woods. Sabreon's crew is out, hunt the fringe and take the rewards. Don't wanna deal? Set a ring to another part of OTF and do your own thing, it's a VERY large hunting area.

[Fallen]

OTF makes up for the lower level of creatures by throwing TONS of them at you all at once. Once you're capped, you can blast them easily. Each creature should take 1 hit or cast, so if you're quick you can kill many in the time it would take to bring down one creature at or higher level than you.

When OTF swarms you finish a hunt in a few minutes.

[Methais]

I don't really consider OTF to be a real capped hunting area. Slightly precap, I mean... Yeah you can hunt there at cap, but you can hunt Nymphs at level 10 too. It has one level 100 critter there, but the next oldest thing is 3 levels under it then something 4 levels under it. The next critter? Level 93.

I see what you're saying, but sea nymphs also don't have level 10 stuff running around the area mixed in with them either.

[Gelston]

I see what you're saying, but sea nymphs also don't have level 10 stuff running around the area mixed in with them either.

Yeah, but I can do OTF at 90 just fine. I seems more geared to around level 95 or 96 to me. Also, I've never had a problem with Sabreon swarms, they make bounties last 2 seconds which is sweet.

[Methais]

Yeah, but I can do OTF at 90 just fine. I seems more geared to around level 95 or 96 to me. Also, I've never had a problem with Sabreon swarms, they make bounties last 2 seconds which is sweet.

Sabreon swarms are awesome. Earnor runs a similar crew in Nelemar from time to time, which is even more awesome. He's just not on much anymore.

I miss when certain hunting areas used to swarm on their own without requiring there to be 48923472093 people running around. Bonespear Tower was great for this back in the day.

[loxe]

when i first started playing there was a big argument between players because of the new way people were cheating....the wizard front end... i was new so i didnt know the difference and played for over a year with no front end.... with that said i went for many many years playing one account....until about a two years ago when a capped bard came up for sale as an account takeover. and eventually a near capped wizard account also came up for sale. So now i have three premium accounts.

[Tgo01]

People said the wizard front end was cheating when it first came out? lawl

[Suppressed Poet]

Ha...I suppose wizard fe would be cheating compared to java I suppose.

The real "cheating" is in lich. I used to know by keystrokes how to travel from the landing to the mule. Now? Pshh... Remember when one of, if not THE biggest advantage to join voln was symbol of need and people actually used crystal amulets regularly? I remember how I could tell how much time my spell durations had left... because they would drop off during the middle of a hunt and that was my reminder to spellup again. And don't forget the joy of repeatidly typing loot, kneel, skin <creature> with <weapon>, get <items>, put <items> in <container>.

I love cheating though. Honestly would have probably gave up the game after awhile from broken wrists/fingers before PsiNet came out.

[Delias]

I share six accounts between three people. It's very useful. I only recommend doing this with people you know in RL. One's in my family, the other is my boyfriend of four years...

Two of my brothers and I did this. It was the best setup ever- one had the wizard, one had the bard, and I had the rogue, the empath, the cleric, the ranger... Actually I had at least one of everything.

[diethx]

Ahahahahaha, I remember the business about people saying the wizard was cheating. That was comedy gold.

I didn't use the wizard for probably 6 months after I started playing on AOL, because I didn't even know it existed. Someone I hung out with in the healer's tent told me about it, and I was like...

http://digboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Keanu_Whoa.png

[Suppressed Poet]

If I had the time to invest, and could justify the expense, and had the patience to learn how to script effectively...I would love to put together a large team to hunt warcamps. I imagine it would be like a totaly different game though. More like Might&Magic and less like Elder Scrolls.

[thefarmer]

Zmud

[Buckwheet]

It is pretty intense. I have done warcamps with 6 of my 8. Effectively between censure, breeze, mass silence and ball spells there was nothing that could do any damage.

[diethx]

Zmud

Only for rolling up new characters, to get THE EPIC STARTING STATS!!!!!

[SHAFT]

Ahahahahaha, I remember the business about people saying the wizard was cheating. That was comedy gold.

I didn't use the wizard for probably 6 months after I started playing on AOL, because I didn't even know it existed. Someone I hung out with in the healer's tent told me about it, and I was like...

Ditto. Changed my life. Still use it and love it.

[Methais]

And don't forget the joy of repeatidly typing loot, kneel, skin <creature> with <weapon>, get <items>, put <items> in <container>.

Isn't the LOOT verb fairly new, like within the past 5-6 years? You used to have to type SEARCH <critter>.

[Gelston]

Isn't the LOOT verb fairly new, like within the past 5-6 years? You used to have to type SEARCH <critter>.

Yeah, loot is a newer verb... Well, new in the terms of GS.

[Donquix]

Isn't the LOOT verb fairly new, like within the past 5-6 years? You used to have to type SEARCH <critter>.

2003, apparently.

http://www.cmnservicesgroup.com/tsoran/news-03-12.html

[DCSL]

I still have the route from TSC to Argent Aspis memorized for running messages from back when I was a fourteen. And the other houses too but Argent Aspis is more impressive. For some reason, I still type this manually when I start a character in Landing. Just because I can.

[Donquix]

I still have the route from TSC to Argent Aspis memorized for running messages from back when I was a fourteen. And the other houses too but Argent Aspis is more impressive. For some reason, I still type this manually when I start a character in Landing. Just because I can.

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hey...i was a member (before the cheater secret passage to the well)

[DCSL]

Um. No. From outside Moot Hall:

e e n e e s se e e e e go bridge e e e s e

AND I WAS NEVER A MEMBER.

ETA: Corrected from TSC to Moot Hall 'cause no one starts at TSC when running messages.

[Donquix]

arrrrrgh. All these years walking two extra steps FOR NO REASON.

DAMN YOU MUSCLE MEMORY!

[DCSL]

Well, now you know. And knowing is half the battle!

[Methais]

Well, now you know. And knowing is half the battle!

http://shirtoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/gijose-1.jpg

[subzero]

http://shirtoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/gijose-1.jpg

I think they got the colors wrong.

[StrayRogue]

I used to MA, but can't be bothered these days. As a combat rogue playing in off-hours you'd be boned without a healer every now and then.

I still use >search critter and still have my own hand drawn copies of Tsoran's maps (as I couldn't get them to print right when I first started).

[Taernath]

People said the wizard front end was cheating when it first came out? lawl

Autorollers too. People were weird back then.

[diethx]

Yeah, I remember that insane argument. Clearly they thought you should spend three days rolling up a new toon by hand in order to get really fab starting stats.

DERP DERP

[Tei]

Three premium, thinking of getting a fourth solely for my cleric.

I used to make them interact with each other or go somewhere quiet to spellup, but then I landed on Teras and well.. things went downhill from there.
I'll try and make more of an effort as soon as someone tells me how to fix my Lich... http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?81328-Lich-opening-another-application

Anyway, I love having my different accounts because it means I don't have to ask for spells, etc. Plus I play while most players are asleep and it's only the zombies left, so I had to become self-sufficient.

[nocturnix]

Three premium, thinking of getting a fourth solely for my cleric.

I used to make them interact with each other or go somewhere quiet to spellup, but then I landed on Teras and well.. things went downhill from there.
I'll try and make more of an effort as soon as someone tells me how to fix my Lich... http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?81328-Lich-opening-another-application

Anyway, I love having my different accounts because it means I don't have to ask for spells, etc. Plus I play while most players are asleep and it's only the zombies left, so I had to become self-sufficient.

Pretty much exactly what she said. But I only have 2 accounts.

[Gustamantis]

add me to the list. I have two basics, one has 3 characters on it, one has my main. My main reason, like many, is so I can easily spell up my alts, and keep my Main logged in at all times. I also get bored when I'm absorbing exp and it gives me other characters to go out with in the mean time, and my alts include a bard and a cleric which are both handy for my main to utilize.

[Jarvan]

I have two premium acts.