coming back to gs.. need wiz help

[iohova]

well, been debating on this for about half a year now, and i think its about that time.

first character im gonna bring back, is my dark elf wizard...

i really have no intention on playing this forever.. she was lvl 31 or 32 when i left gs3.. so what do you guys think i should maximize her stats for (using the stat maximizer of course)? i was thinking lvl 45or50 really.. since i doubt ill get much past that in the limited time i plan on playing..

also, choosing the god.. whats recommended?

done all the reading about runestaffs and lores and whatnot..
oh, shes gonna be wand+shield type wiz. runestaff wizards are cool, but not my style.

any help/advice is greatly appreciated :)

[Edited on 8-14-2004 by iohova]

[Betheny]

Go Mularos. Many different facets to explore...

...not that anyone really RP's anymore, but eh.

[Merzbow]

Fash'lo'nae. It's great playing the whole 'is he good, evil, or just indifferent' angle.

[iohova]

so is the whole choosing a god thing strictly for RP?
do i HAVE to choose one or can i leave it blank/undecided for a while?

anything else i should know before i call up and active the account?

still unsure on what lvl i should maximize the stats for.. as i mentioned above i was thinkin ~50.. but the more i think about it, if i end up selling this char (and all my chars) then it would be best to do it as if it was being planned to hit lvl 100.... (gotta ask the gf if she minds if i do sell the char, since the wiz was hers in the first place. heh)

[StrayRogue]

God's are purely for RP, unless you are a cleric where it directly effects your spells.

I'd maximize stats for tp growth.
I'd also go the runestave route which is 2x Harness Power, 2x MIU, 1x Scrolls (2x if possible), 1x Elemental Mana Control, 1x Elemental Lore 2.5x Spells, and 2x Spell Aim.

[fallenSaint]

Also if it helps you any you should have 5 stat placement reallos left if you havent used any. In which case you can simple set it how you like right now and use the other 4 at a later date.

If you're going to choose a "God" remember that the Dark Elves (and the Lesser Elves) discovered that the Arkati are not gods at all.

- Arkans

[iohova]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I'd maximize stats for tp growth.
I'd also go the runestave route which is 2x Harness Power, 2x MIU, 1x Scrolls (2x if possible), 1x Elemental Mana Control, 1x Elemental Lore 2.5x Spells, and 2x Spell Aim.
im having a hard time getting the trainer spreadsheet to work right..
anyone wanna give me a good stat plan? (shes either lvl 31 or 32. ill find out tonight when i can log in)
and yeah, glad those extra reallocation slots are available, i get the feeling ill be using one or two of them heh.

really not interested in the runestaff thing. im sure its nice to have that free hand, as well as for RP purposes, but i prefer a shield and wand/sword.

[iohova]

any help with the stats guys?
im still having trouble getting tsorans spreadsheet trainer to work for me. keep gettin the macro messages when i did all the steps to activate them (tho, when clicking on a macro in the macro list, it wont let me click on edit.. not sure if thats whats stopping me or not)

edit- ok, i figured out what i was doing wrong. had to enable macros THEN open the spreadsheet.
but, i think im still gonna need a stat plan... since i dont have excel at home and i cant play my char till i do get home..



[Edited on 8-14-2004 by iohova]

[AnticorRifling]

Get a polearm, 1x CM, never look back.

[iohova]

gonna stick with ohe/wand+shield. (i mean, shes already got the equipment for it, might as well stick with it right? heh)
granted, she doesnt even swing the weapon (unless its a wand) since i like to cast (isnt that the point of a wizard?) spells more with her anyways.. so giving her a pole would kinda defeat her purpose. lol
(dark elf wizard, with a polearm, theres a funny sight)

[Askip]

Try putting these numbers in, and massage from there. You will probably want AU higher, these are from an 80ish reallocation.

>info start
Level 0 Stats for Askip, Dark Elf Wizard

Strength (STR): 69
Constitution (CON): 50
Dexterity (DEX): 49
Agility (AGI): 73
Discipline (DIS): 77
Aura (AUR): 66
Logic (LOG): 68
Intuition (INT): 62
Wisdom (WIS): 73
Influence (INF): 73

Good luck and have fun. :D

[AnticorRifling]

Level 0 Stats for Anticor, Giant Wizard

Strength (STR): 85
Constitution (CON): 75
Dexterity (DEX): 65
Agility (AGI): 69
Discipline (DIS): 65
Aura (AUR): 85
Logic (LOG): 60
Intuition (INT): 36
Wisdom (WIS): 65
Influence (INF): 55

yields

Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 94 (37) ... 94 (37)
Constitution (CON): 88 (29) ... 88 (29)
Dexterity (DEX): 84 (12) ... 84 (12)
Agility (AGI): 79 (9) ... 79 (9)
Discipline (DIS): 82 (16) ... 82 (16)
Aura (AUR): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Logic (LOG): 82 (11) ... 82 (11)
Intuition (INT): 71 (10) ... 71 (10)
Wisdom (WIS): 82 (16) ... 82 (16)
Influence (INF): 74 (17) ... 74 (17)

at lvl 53. That's my stats so you'll need to change them slightly given I'm a giant and a weapon user not just a weapon carrier.

[iohova]

well, been playin the wiz the past few days. shes lvl 34...
casting as - 282
sleep/mana leech cs - 203

103 life, 129 mana

that was basically following askip's stat placement. i might tweak it a bit more.. not sure.
30 ranks in wiz, 31 minorE, 26 majorE.
(cant get online right now, otherwise id post up her full stat and skill list to be critiqued)
oh and i think shes gotta 198 swing as with a 5x fal .. not like she NEEDS to swing, but it comes in handy sometimes when im outta mana and no wands and the creatures are already lyin down. hehe

[Edited on 8-17-2004 by iohova]

[AnticorRifling]

You realize following Askip is like following a lemming towards a cliff right? I'm just saying...

[Askip]

Take that polearm... :D

[iohova]

lol

actually, the wiz is doing fairly well based on askips stat placements. i did make some minor adjustments to it to get a lil more mental training points, but nothing too major. once i play with the trainer some more, ill play with the stats some more as well.
i mean, my wiz is 34, hunting ~40 with no real troubles other than lack of mana (129 goes by TOO quick when ya got no wands. lol)

gotta question about Elemental Mana Control - do i keep training in this, or stop anytime after the bonus is 120 or so? (is it just for mana sharing or does it have some other use(s) ?)

MIU- since i do plan to enchant, tho not heavily.. should i drop this down to 1x or 1.5x? i *think* shes 2x in it right now. is there a specific point in which i should stop training in it altogether?

[Edited on 8-18-2004 by iohova]

[Edited on 8-18-2004 by iohova]

[Askip]

MIU & EMC are both factors in Enchant. How large a factor is still unknown.

Here are my current skills as a runestaff user. I 1x Survival & FA for skinning, the one rank of Brawling is for defense if disarmed, and the 24 ranks of SMC are for my Major Sanctuary & Raise Dead toys. :D

Askip (at level 83), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Brawling...........................| 5 1
Physical Fitness...................| 99 23
Arcane Symbols.....................| 185 85
Magic Item Use.....................| 264 164
Spell Aiming.......................| 270 170
Harness Power......................| 183 83
Elemental Mana Control.............| 140 40
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24
Survival...........................| 185 85
Perception.........................| 185 85
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30
First Aid..........................| 185 85

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 61

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 84

[Stinkfist]

:troll:

[iohova]

hmm. heres mine currently.. ive been movin some skills around and still plan to do more. ill probably drop edged altogether since she almost never uses it anyways (only time i do is when im outta mana and wands, which i think that problem has been solved now that i can get wands more often and im better with mana leech)
lvl 34 (10k away from 35 right now)
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 30 6
Shield Use.........................| 128 34
Edged Weapons................. 128 34
Physical Fitness...................| 82 18
Arcane Symbols.................| 130 35
Magic Item Use..................| 130 35
Spell Aiming.......................| 172 72
Harness Power..................... 134 37
Elemental Mana Control.....| 128 34
Perception..........................| 96 22
Climbing.............................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 70 15

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 26

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 31

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 30

i know she probably needs more perception.. which i can make up for once i take off all them ohe ranks.. but hows it look so far?
also.. for shield use.. am i wasting points by putting ranks in it? i mean, i should take off them ranks and increase in spells and whatnot right? i DO use a shield, so thats why im askin :)

[Askip]

<< for shield use.. am i wasting points by putting ranks in it? >>

If you plan on using a runestaff, yes.

The defense of a staff and shield are not added, the system only uses the higher of the two.

Other than that, your training looks good.

Askip

[Valthissa]

for what it's worth you have the same perception, climbing, and swimming at 35 that Val has at 70

Valth is fully singled in edged weapons and shield - it can be mana efficient to finish off a stunned, prone creature using 6 mana (haste) instead of casting <insert favorite bolt here>.

it's really hard to screw up a wizard to the point that they can't hunt at level...so I recommend that you design your character around what's fun for you and what suits any RP you goals you have for your character.

C/Valth

[iohova]

nope no runestaff for this wiz :) maybe my next wiz

thanks guys for the input. yeah, it is kinda fun finishing off a creature with her fal sometimes... but i cant help think that i should take off the ohe ranks completely and put em in something else since i do rarely swing anymore. (like, put the ranks into MIU since shes only singled?)

edit- ok, i took off OHE ranks completely. still have the shield ranks there tho. once i bring my rogue back, ima buy a nice runestaff for teh wiz (i left all my gold on the rogue) so for now shes stuck with the shield.

[Edited on 8-20-2004 by iohova]