Shield Swiftness, small/medium shield comparisions

[Gibreficul]

Here's some numbers I gathered concerning the SHIELD maneuver swiftness, small and medium shields, and armor types. I also added armored evasion into the mix.

This is a capped, 3x/2x dodge shield rogue. The only active spell was 509, to ensure 0 encumbrance throughout the test.

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Current build: 3x dodge, 2x shield (303, 202 ranks)

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+20 SMALL SHIELD, +7 MBP

Offensive Melee DS: +324, +327 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +534, +537 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +397
Defensive Melee DS +606, 618+ with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +816, +828 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +574

+20 SMALL SHIELD, +7 MBP, + rank 5 armored evasion

Offensive Melee DS: +330, +333 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +540, +543 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +406
Defensive Melee DS +614, 626+ with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +824, +836 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +586


+20 SMALL SHIELD, +7 MBP, 3 ranks shield swiftness

Offensive Melee DS: +353, +356 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +563, +566 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +441
Defensive Melee DS +645, +657 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +855, +867 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +633
+20 SMALL SHIELD, +7 MBP, 3 ranks shield swiftness, + rank 5 armored evasion

Offensive Melee DS: +360, +363 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +570, +573 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +451
Defensive Melee DS +654, +666 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +864, +876 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +646


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+20 MEDIUM SHIELD, +7 MBP

Offensive Melee DS: +319, +322 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +529, +532 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +396
Defensive Melee DS: +605, +617 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +815, +827 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +588

+20 MEDIUM SHIELD, +7 MBP + rank 5 armored evasion

Offensive Melee DS: +324, +327 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +534, +537 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +403
Defensive Melee DS: +612, +624 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +822, +834 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +598

+20 MEDIUM SHIELD, +7 MBP, 3 ranks shield swiftness

Offensive Melee DS: +347, +350 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +557, +560 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +438
Defensive Melee DS: +643, +655 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +853, +865 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +645

+20 MEDIUM SHIELD, +7 MBP, 3 ranks shield swiftness + rank 5 armored evasion

Offensive Melee DS: +353, +356 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +563, +566 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +447
Defensive Melee DS: +651, +663 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +861, +873 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +657


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+20 SMALL SHIELD, +5 Full Plate

Offensive Melee DS: +304, +307 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +514, +517 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +368
Defensive Melee DS: +581, +593 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +791, +803 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +538

+20 SMALL SHIELD, +5 Full Plate + 5 ranks armored evasion

Offensive Melee DS: +308, +311 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +518, +521 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +374
Defensive Melee DS: +586, +598 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +796, +808 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +545

+20 SMALL SHIELD, +5 Full Plate, 3 ranks shield swiftness

Offensive Melee DS: +331, +334 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +541, +544 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +409
Defensive Melee DS: +616, +628 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +826, +838 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +590

+20 SMALL SHIELD, +5 Full Plate, 3 ranks shield swiftness + 5 ranks armoed evasion

Offensive Melee DS: +334, +537 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +544, +547 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +413
Defensive Melee DS: +621, +633 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +831, +843 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +598


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+20 MEDIUM SHIELD, +5 Full Plate

Offensive Melee DS: +301, +304 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +511, +514 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +370
Defensive Melee DS: +582, +594 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +792, +804 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +554

+20 MEDIUM SHIELD, +5 Full Plate + 5 ranks armored evasion

Offensive Melee DS: +304, +307 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +514, +517 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +374
Defensive Melee DS: +586, +598 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +796, +808 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +560

+20 MEDIUM SHIELD, +5 Full Plate, 3 ranks shield swiftness

Offensive Melee DS: +327, +330 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +537, +540 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +409
Defensive Melee DS: +616, +628 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +826, +838 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +605

+20 MEDIUM SHIELD, +5 Full Plate, 3 ranks shield swiftness + 5 ranks armoed evasion

Offensive Melee DS: +330, +333 with 7x handwraps
Offensive UDF: +540, +543 with 7x handwraps
Offensive Bolt DS: +413
Defensive Melee DS: +621, +633 with 7x handwraps
Defensive UDF: +831, +843 with 7x handwraps
Defensive Bolt DS: +613

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I think the point of this was to see how much shield swiftness really helps...

[Archigeek]

Seems fairly significant to me.

[Riltus]

Seems fairly significant to me.

SHIELD SWIFTNESS Cumulative Dodge DS %increase (prereq: Rank 3 Shield Focus)

Small Shield:


Rank 1: 5.1%
Rank 2: 10.2%
Rank 3: 15.3%

Medium shield:


Rank 1: 5.7%
Rank 2: 11.4%
Rank 3: 17.1%

Assume Gib's dodge base is 340 (303 ranks, 30 AGI, 30/4 INT)

DODGE DS = Base * Armor Factor * Shield Factor * Stance Factor

1. No Shield (1.0 factor), Full Leather (1.0 factor):


OFF (.75 factor): 340 * 1.0 * 1.0 * 0.75 = +255 DS
DEF (1.0 factor): 340 * 1.0 * 1.0 * 1.00 = +340 DS

2. Medium Shield w/o swiftness (.70 factor) w/Full Plate (.83 factor)


OFF (.75 factor): 340 * 0.83 * 0.70 * 0.75 = +147 DS
DEF (1.0 factor): 340 * 0.83 * 0.70 * 1.00 = +197 DS

Note: Medium Shield + Full Plate = 41.9% dodge DS penalty.

3. Medium Shield w/ 3 ranks swiftness (.82 factor) + Full Plate (.83 factor)


OFF (.75 factor): 340 * 0.83 * 0.82 * 0.75 = +173 DS
DEF (1.0 factor): 340 * 0.83 * 0.82 * 1.00 = +231 DS

Note: Medium Shield w/3 ranks Swiftness + Full Plate = 31.9% dodge DS penalty

Medium Shield (OFF stance) + 3 ranks Swiftness + (+5 armor enchant) + 202 shield ranks w/4x shield + 202 parry ranks:

173 dodge + 110 shield + 5 armor enchant bonus + 42 parry = +330 Total DS

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