Warclaidhm

[Gelston]

Does anyone know anything solid beyond some FB posts?

edited to add...
http://www.azlegacyfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Kevin-Tejan/

May you find peace.

[Fallen]

Don't tell me he killed himself or something ridiculous.

[Gelston]

Don't tell me he killed himself or something ridiculous.

That is the word.

[msconstrew]

Yeah, that's the rumor. I am hesitant to put the facebook link here because it's got his full name.

[Gelston]

I've been looking on Google with his name and the area, but most news organization have a policy to not report suicides.

[diethx]

What? Are we serious?

[Fallen]

If that's true PB and Co. better lay low for a while.

[diethx]

I hate that that was my first thought too, Fallen.

[msconstrew]

Evarin, where's the meltdown he recently had?

[diethx]

Yeah, I can't remember what thread it was in.

[Ardwen]

He was on LNet last week, dindt seem anything more then his normal self

[Liagala]

Meltdown was in the "Thanks Kayous" thread.

[diethx]

Thanks Lia.

[Fallen]

Evarin, where's the meltdown he recently had?

In a Shattered post here. He was also posting on the Officials in the Monk folder.

[Lolleia]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?80524-Thanks-Kayous

It makes me sad that this news doesn't surprise me at all.

[Candor]

Sigh, even though I didn't like Warclaidhm, I find this news rather depressing.

[calidus]

Just got word of this.

Very sad, if true.

Looking over some old logs. We had some good and some bad times together, but in the end it was just a game.

RIP

[SHAFT]

Saying rip is a bit premature. I could be wrong, but warclaidhm doesn't seem like a person who has the stones to kill himself. This looks like a cry for help. I hope he didn't do it.

[Methais]

I'm inclined to think this is a hoax. Hopefully I'm right.

If not though I can't say I'm surprised. Dude has/had major mental issues that go far beyond the scope of GS. The GS related stuff is/was probably just the tip of the iceberg, except for possibly being outed as an alleged pedobear.

[Leew]

I hope it was/is a hoax. I'd hate to think a game like GSIV would contribute to something like that. A scary fact to think about, with the new "anti-bullying" laws in effect the culpability or possibility of culpability of members of this very board being held criminally or civilly to his family members. The truth is i really don't know how strongly worded the laws are or if they are even in effect yet, but i know they were written to take in account things like facebook and other online media.

[Methais]

If it does end up being a hoax, which I hope/think it will, the shitstorm that will likely take place here in the aftermath will be like Hurricane Katrina meets tubgirl.

I'm assuming yeah, but has anyone googled his name yet? I don't remember his last name.

[Lord Orbstar]

In the end, who cares, really? Either he is a nut job haunting people here, or a nut job finally at peace in Hell since it was a suicide. Either way..who cares. Channel your inner-sociopath.

[DCSL]

In the end, who cares, really? Either he is a nut job haunting people here, or a nut job finally at peace in Hell since it was a suicide. Either way..who cares. Channel your inner-sociopath.

Stay classy, man.

[RichardCranium]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/best_animated_images_car_jump_in_zpseb26730c.gif

[Androidpk]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/best_animated_images_car_jump_in_zpseb26730c.gif

I am impressed.

[diethx]

In the end, who cares, really? Either he is a nut job haunting people here, or a nut job finally at peace in Hell since it was a suicide. Either way..who cares. Channel your inner-sociopath.

You really are just as frightening as you look.

[Androidpk]

You really are just as frightening as you look.

What is frightening about what he said? People have given that kid shit for years on here and now suddenly there is going to be some faux concern? Please.

[Catts]

What is frightening about what he said? People have given that kid shit for years on here and now suddenly there is going to be some faux concern? Please.

right because everyon on a forum is prepared for the possibility that someone you're heckling might actually kill themselves. Death gets people to drop the bullshit quick ...we all (hopefully) value human life

[diethx]

What is frightening about what he said? People have given that kid shit for years on here and now suddenly there is going to be some faux concern? Please.

You're right. Because some people have made fun of someone else on the PC, none of us should feel even remotely saddened that that someone took their own life. What the fuck is wrong with you?

[msconstrew]

right because everyon on a forum is prepared for the possibility that someone you're heckling might actually kill themselves. Death gets people to drop the bullshit quick ...we all (hopefully) value human life

I am with pk on this one. We do things in our lives and have to be cognizant of the potential negative consequences. I am not saying death should be at the forefront of someone's mind, but you never know who's on the other side of the screen.

[DCSL]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/best_animated_images_car_jump_in_zpseb26730c.gif

I don't know about anyone else but I'm enjoying exploring your photobucket.

[Methais]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k15/troydenh/best_animated_images_car_jump_in_zpseb26730c.gif

What is actually happening there?

PS: I'm predicting hoax btw.

[diethx]

I am with pk on this one. We do things in our lives and have to be cognizant of the potential negative consequences. I am not saying death should be at the forefront of someone's mind, but you never know who's on the other side of the screen.

Then you're on the wrong fucking side. Not everyone habitually made fun of Warclaidhm, and to be so crass is disgusting.

[DCSL]

Ladies, ladies. Let's save the fight for when we all find the pair of flashy silver snake skin high heels at the same time but they only have the one pair left and we all oddly wear the same size.

[Androidpk]

You're right.

You could have stopped there.

[msconstrew]

What is crass about what I said? I am not saying we shouldn't be concerned or express sadness. I AM saying that for us to turn a blind eye to shitty behavior and then be surprised when it has negative consequences or unintended effects is pretty naive.

[Androidpk]

Then you're on the wrong fucking side. Not everyone habitually made fun of Warclaidhm, and to be so crass is disgusting.

Funny, I never saw you stick up for him once.

[Catts]

I am with pk on this one. We do things in our lives and have to be cognizant of the potential negative consequences. I am not saying death should be at the forefront of someone's mind, but you never know who's on the other side of the screen.

If he killed himself because of something said on a forum, then....he killed himself because of something said on a internet forum. Besides that issue, I don't care if your worst enemy drops dead next to you...unless you're fucked up in the head, you're going to care. Lastly what the hell is the point of pk's post? What use is their in posting such a shitty assumption, other than expressing his on views and then (most likely in self–consciousness) accusing others of the same?

[Androidpk]

It isn't an assumption. I've seen it happen consistently over the years.

[diethx]

Orbstar was crass, and so was pk. Shitty behavior is rampant on the PC, and we've all come to expect it. No one is saying that they're surprised. We are saying that it's shitty that he killed himself, assuming the FB posts are correct.

I personally do not believe that the abuse he took on the PC is what made him kill himself. Part of it, maybe. But definitely not all of it. But don't try and tell me that what Orbstar said wasn't totally disgusting, as was pk for echoing it.

[SHAFT]

Please, warclaidhm is and always has been an attention whore. This is another case of him seeking attention. Clearly mommy and daddy didn't give enough hugs.

If I'm wrong and he offed himself than I'm wrong.

[msconstrew]

I doubt it too. If it was a cause, I doubt it was a major cause. He had serious issues, which are well documented here.

[diethx]

Funny, I never saw you stick up for him once.

Why would I stick up for him? I wasn't friends with him. I don't stick up for every person that gets made fun of here. Frankly, it's completely unrelated. The news of anyone committing suicide would be disappointing to me, no matter who they were, because it's just ​sad.

[Catts]

It isn't an assumption. I've seen it happen consistently over the years.

You've consistently seen people kill themselves over the years as a result of internet heckling? Your observations allow you to draw factual conclusions about the empathy of others?

Give me a fucking break

[Androidpk]

You've consistently seen people kill themselves over the years as a result of internet heckling? Your observations allow you to draw factual conclusions about the empathy of others?

Give me a fucking break

We're talking about Warclaidhm here, do try and pay attention.

[TheEschaton]

If he killed himself, it's not because of what happened on an internet forum, it's because of what was happening in his life. The internet isn't a safe haven for the bad shit going on in your life. None of us are trained therapists. Shit, I see a shrink every week because my work is emotionally draining, I don't think it's appropriate to come here with my issues, neither should any of you, neither should Warclaidhm.

No one stuck up for him on this forum, some people actively heckled him. I don't think any of those people had anything to do with his death (if news of said death is real). Outing him as a potential child molester? Maybe. But again, as long as it wasn't libel, come on. On the flip side, shows of sorrow and pity do strike me as a bit insincere, sort of like Republican lawmakers who become pro-gay when they find out their son is gay. It's a shame if it's true because he didn't get help, and that's an appropriate response, but I'm not overly upset about it or my supposed role in it as a member of these forums. I barely said anything to the kid in 9 years on these forums. If you think this is the first suicide of anyone on these boards, you're silly.

[Jayvn]

He wouldn't be the first gemstone player to off themselves.. zirth did too. What I don't get is he seemed to be getting his shit in order a little more, grades, he lost weight etc.. then just snapped? It sounds like he's had a history with the psych ward. Hell it could have been an attention/cry for help gone wrong. Or he just said fuck it. Sucks for his family.. suicide is a selfish fucking way to die.

[Catts]

We're talking about Warclaidhm here, do try and pay attention.

To me it doesn't matter who it is, and usually these things are a hoax and a cry for help...and there's probably a good chance he's just reading this post with some twisted enjoyment. But if he actually did die, and all you took the time to say was "none of your cared about him anyway"...well, I'll leave it at that.

[SHAFT]

All of us talking about him is feeding his desire for attention. Shit like this was what he is looking for.

[DCSL]

I feel like I'm watching a train wreck, here. It's going to be true and some media outlet is going to pick up the story and link to this forum and it'll be overloaded with internet crusaders and it will escalate into Anonymous killing us all.

[TheEschaton]

To me it doesn't matter who it is, and usually these things are a hoax and a cry for help...and there's probably a good chance he's just reading this post with some twisted enjoyment. But if he actually did die, and all you took the time to say was "none of your cared about him anyway"...well, I'll leave it at that.

I think pk's response was directed at the first 2 or 3 pages of this thread which were far more about "being properly sad" than anything else. None of us on this board did care for him, that is fairly factual. The proper sadness level is "Oh well, that sucks for his family" like Javyn's post above you.

[Catts]

I think pk's response was directed at the first 2 or 3 pages of this thread which were far more about "being properly sad" than anything else. None of us on this board did care for him, that is fairly factual. The proper sadness level is "Oh well, that sucks for his family" like Javyn's post above you.
fair enough. I reacted strongly for personal reasons

[SHAFT]

I feel like I'm watching a train wreck, here. It's going to be true and some media outlet is going to pick up the story and link to this forum and it'll be overloaded with internet crusaders and it will escalate into Anonymous killing us all.

If that's the case PB and orbstar are fucked!

[msconstrew]

04-13-2013 05:04 PM
Thread: Warclaidhm
You're siding with a dude who is happy that he may have bullied an autistic kid into suicide. Think about that.


Huh, you're claiming pk may have bullied him into suicide? Because that is who i said i agreed with, and then clarified besides. I don't think you read what I actually wrote.

[diethx]

I think pk's response was directed at the first 2 or 3 pages of this thread which were far more about "being properly sad" than anything else. None of us on this board did care for him, that is fairly factual. The proper sadness level is "Oh well, that sucks for his family" like Javyn's post above you.

Man, I'm so glad you're here to be able to tell everyone how they should feel.

Do I feel properly sad? No, you're right, I didn't really know him and therefore no, I did not care about him. I think it's sad when anyone kills themselves, sure. But I'm also not about to tell anyone else how they should feel. Cause, you know, it's not my fucking place.

[Androidpk]

I feel like I'm watching a train wreck, here. It's going to be true and some media outlet is going to pick up the story and link to this forum and it'll be overloaded with internet crusaders and it will escalate into Anonymous killing us all.

"Deviant website uncovered, more tonight at 11!"

[TheEschaton]

I'm sure we've all known people who've killed themselves. Growing up in a nowhere town like Buffalo, I know a handful, including a good friend of mine from high school. I'm fairly jaded by it, at this point.

[Jayvn]

From his facebook friend's posts and the people he went to aikido with it sounds like it's real.. I don't see anything in the AZ obituaries though..don't know how they list suicide or if they do? If someone cares enough to find out just call chandler az and ask? I used to feel bad for suicides.. now they just irritate the shit out of me. On the opposite mindset I also feel you have every fucking right to take your life if you want... You are held accountable for your own shit.
I'm still hopeful for valhalla when I die...

[msconstrew]

His parents would have to place the obit and write it for the paper.

[DCSL]

I do not want an obituary when I die. It'd be the saddest list of nothing ever. "She uh... She liked to read. She was a relatively okay RPer in an antiquated online text-based RPG. What else? OTTERS. She liked otters. Her love of otters will be missed. I guess? Yeah, that sounds right."

[msconstrew]

Writing my mom's obituary was one of the hardest things I ever did.

[Geijon Khyree]

I've only seen bits and pieces of previous disputes and flares up. Usually the general QQ, anonymous insults that the internet generates. PC is pretty tame. Ughh.com and different type of social forums if people want to flame you they'll hack your facebook, dig up dirt on the web, post it, get your phone number, swat you, or drive to your house like people in Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio have done.

This is kind of sidebar, but the PC is tame on the type of immoral slander, person bashing that this topic has been discussing.

[Liagala]

dig up dirt on the web, post it, get your phone number.
You weren't here for the Rocktar fiasco, were you? Or whoever that was that threatened to burn someone's house down? Someone remind me of the name on that one.

[Androidpk]

I am an ass but I have never once bullied him, besides asking him once what drugs he was taking after he want on a TL:DR rant.

[Androidpk]

I do not want an obituary when I die. It'd be the saddest list of nothing ever. "She uh... She liked to read. She was a relatively okay RPer in an antiquated online text-based RPG. What else? OTTERS. She liked otters. Her love of otters will be missed. I guess? Yeah, that sounds right."

"Known for her elegant outfits in Gemstone IV that inspired tens of women to dress better. She was also fond of dogs."

[diethx]

You weren't here for the Rocktar fiasco, were you? Or whoever that was that threatened to burn someone's house down? Someone remind me of the name on that one.

That was Ratolin, and I'm pretty sure it was my house he threatened to burn down because I reported him for AFK scripting at winterfest or whatever.

eta: shabam (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?38790-LOL&highlight=)

[Lolleia]

I'd completely forgotten about old balls of steel.

[Tgo01]

That was Ratolin, and I'm pretty sure it was my house he threatened to burn down because I reported him for AFK scripting at winterfest or whatever.

eta: shabam (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?38790-LOL&highlight=)

That thread is scary.

[Parkbandit]

If that's true PB and Co. better lay low for a while.

LOL.

You're serious too.. which makes it even funnier.

[Methais]

Why would I stick up for him? I wasn't friends with him. I don't stick up for every person that gets made fun of here. Frankly, it's completely unrelated. The news of anyone committing suicide would be disappointing to me, no matter who they were, because it's just ​sad.

Was it disappointing to you when the guy that shot up Sandy Hook killed himself, and did you find his suicide sad? Or if Bin Laden had killed himself?

I'm not comparing Warclaidhm to them, but you did say no matter who it was.

[diethx]

Was it disappointing to you when the guy that shot up Sandy Hook killed himself, and did you find his suicide sad? Or if Bin Laden had killed himself?

I'm not comparing Warclaidhm to them, but you did say no matter who it was.

I think you're really stretching things, here.

[Methais]

On the flip side, shows of sorrow and pity do strike me as a bit insincere, sort of like Republican lawmakers who become pro-gay when they find out their son is gay

Or democrat presidential candidates who become pro-gay during election season.

AMIRITE?

[Some Rogue]

I think you're really stretching things, here.

Well it is Methais...

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af27/msaroff/cc5.jpg

[diethx]

Well it is Methais...


Hehe!

[SpunGirl]

I'm pretty skeptical about this. First of all, the post from his "parents" on his FB page... seriously? Your son kills himself inside the last 24 hours and you are already running to post on FB? That's either some fake shit or a sad commentary on the importance some people place on social media. But considering his mom hasn't done anything on FB for about a year, I doubt it's that important to her. His dad doesn't appear to have a FB page.

Second, the girl that commented on his suicide post that says she called the cops? She posted on her own FB page (eight hours after Kevinhm's post) that his parents EMAILED HER to let her know that the police/paramedics showed up too late. None of this is impossible but it seems very strange to me.

Of course, it's sad either way. Suicide is some selfish shit and it's sad that he never managed to pull his life together to a place where he would not feel that this is a choice for him. If it IS real, this kind if dysfunction does not come from playing a text-based game or posting on a board like this. If it's fake, it's also sad that he's still this guy.

[Methais]

The more I think about the timing of this, the more I think it might have been his way of protesting the Simucoin store.

I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY NOW SIMU!

[Methais]

Well it is Methais...

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af27/msaroff/cc5.jpg

This picture is clearly photoshopped. I can tell because there's no wedding band.

[Androidpk]

The more I think about the timing of this, the more I think it might have been his way of protesting the Simucoin store.

I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY NOW SIMU!

The last time he posted on the official forums was yesterday and it was about his capped monk. I blame monks. Stupid Finros.

[Methais]

The last time he posted on the official forums was yesterday and it was about his capped monk. I blame monks. Stupid Finros.

Monks: Too little, too late.

I still say this shit is a fucking hoax, and I won't be convinced until there's solid proof that it isn't.

[kookiegod]

The last time he posted on the official forums was yesterday and it was about his capped monk. I blame monks. Stupid Finros.

If its a hoax its amazing.

Sorry I been off the radar for some time, but life had all my attention, work, girlfriends, ex-s and new ones.

GM Izzea sent me his FB post this morning.

I called the Chandler AZ police about 11am. They said they were investigating reports.

I haven't heard anything else to the contrary.

I had his number, I reached out, I called the police, his IM, his FB.

I don't know anything but what is posted.

I do know I got him to start working out a few years ago, I talked him off the ledge a few times, heck I even helped him write a profile for a dating website not that long ago.

Kevin was a troubled soul, I hope its not true, heck, if its not, well, all my faith in people is gone, but not gonna be surprised if it is.

~Paul

[Candor]

Monks: Too little, too late.

I still say this shit is a fucking hoax, and I won't be convinced until there's solid proof that it isn't.

I sincerely hope that it is a hoax and that no one has lost their life.

Having said that, if it is a hoax...well words fail me at the moment.

[Parkbandit]

If its a hoax its amazing.

Sorry I been off the radar for some time, but life had all my attention, work, girlfriends, ex-s and new ones.

GM Izzea sent me his FB post this morning.

I called the Chandler AZ police about 11am. They said they were investigating reports.

I haven't heard anything else to the contrary.

I had his number, I reached out, I called the police, his IM, his FB.

I don't know anything but what is posted.

I do know I got him to start working out a few years ago, I talked him off the ledge a few times, heck I even helped him write a profile for a dating website not that long ago.

Kevin was a troubled soul, I hope its not true, heck, if its not, well, all my faith in people is gone, but not gonna be surprised if it is.

~Paul

Welcome back Paul!

Send me my $$!

[Stretch]

I'm more disturbed by the posts alleging child molestation than anything else -- wtf?

[Tgo01]

I'm more disturbed by the posts alleging child molestation than anything else -- wtf?

I noticed those too, what's that all about?

[Showal]

I'm more disturbed by the posts alleging child molestation than anything else -- wtf?

Yeah. I figured that was just another shattered thread, since they all start the same. Then it got real real weird. I don't really buy anything Kayous says, because well, he b bad son and makes stuff up.

[Xzean]

Just as a Funeral Director wanted to say that obits are entirely optional and indeed cost money above the cost of the funeral. Not many people bother with them anymore.

[Jarvan]

I'm going to burn in hell, I know it.. but when I first read this thread, one of the first things that popped into my head was..

Warclaidhm went demonic!

I chuckled at the nostalgia of the thought, then felt a little bad.

I hope he didn't off himself tho, cause that would suck.

[Tisket]

What is this about Warclaidhm being a pedophile? Just generalized rumor or are there substantiated facts?

[Tisket]

Oh and just to be clear, I don't believe for one instant that he killed himself (if he's dead) because someone was mean to him on an internet forum. Come on...he'd have offed himself fucking years ago. Let's not flatter ourselves or our evil textual superpowers.

[Methais]

What is this about Warclaidhm being a pedophile? Just generalized rumor or are there substantiated facts?

In the "Thanks Kayous" thread, Kayous brought up something with Warclaidhm saying like a year ago in IMs something about being suicidal and that he was looking up child porn.

Then someone else posted after saying that Warclaidhm basically told him the same thing, but mentioned "doing things" to little kids.

I don't remember the exact wording, and I'm too lazy to go find it, but yeah.

[Tisket]

It's all bullshit. Dude's not dead. He's giggling like a little girl over the possibility that someone believed his ploy.

Warclaidhm, Penn and Teller would be so disappointed in you dude.

[Tisket]

I just pm'd the website for Penn and Teller and included a copy of that picture Warclaidhm posted here with Penn (or Teller, I can't remember which is which) because I'm sure they would want to know of the passing of such a great fan.

You should hurry and reassure them that you live, War, here's the site: http://www.pennandteller.com/

[SHAFT]

It's all bullshit. Dude's not dead. He's giggling like a little girl over the possibility that someone believed his ploy.

Warclaidhm, Penn and Teller would be so disappointed in you dude.

For a while I felt you were going soft. Good to see you still have it in ya!

[Lord Orbstar]

Eh. Still could care less. All you people that were aghast at such a blase attitude, he was a pervert, an asshole, and had serious emotional issues. Is it really a tragedy other than for his family who are unlikely to haunt the GS forums? Right: not really. I just hope no really good items are lost from Elanthia forever. Did he have some good stuff?

[SHAFT]

Eh. Still could care less. All you people that were aghast at such a blase attitude, he was a pervert, an asshole, and had serious emotional issues. Is it really a tragedy other than for his family who are unlikely to haunt the GS forums? Right: not really. I just hope no really good items are lost from Elanthia forever. Did he have some good stuff?

No. He was banned from prime. In shattered I don't know if it even matters. All 6 players probably have good gear.

[Snoopy Dogg]

i sold him the mushroom that makes exploding fire grenade spores 3x/day.. a skull ring and some brawler that was 5x with trollbane. think thats all he had that could be classified as "good" items

but, on the other topic.. im still stunned and unsure what to believe

[Methais]

Maybe this is a ploy by Simu to regenerate interest in Shattered. If/when it comes out that this was a hoax, people will be kicking down the doors to reactivate their Shattered accounts to grief Leland 24/7, and in exchange Simu will let him play Prime again or give him enhancives or something.

[DCSL]

Eh. Still could care less.

You're killin' me, Smalls. The phrase "could care less" means that you actually DO care because it is possible, it could happen, that you could care less than you do at the moment. LOOK AT IT.

[kookiegod]

I spoke to the Chandler AZ police since I filed a report this morning about 10 mins ago.

A lady named Kathy suggested I reach out to his parents as they couldn't tell me anything.

Kinda says it all.

Main Station
250 East Chicago St 85225
480-782-4000

~Paul

[Lord Orbstar]

That is confirmation. I am sorry for the loss and pain his family and friends will go thru in trying to understand and second guess themselves.

[Fallen]

Sad stuff.

[Lolleia]

That is confirmation. I am sorry for the loss and pain his family and friends will go thru in trying to understand and second guess themselves.

This. I recently lost a close family member to suicide and I can tell you personally that this has been the hardest thing to deal with. All of the second guessing and thinking about what we could and should have done differently. I don't think I will ever truly be at peace with it.

[diethx]

Eh. Still could care less. All you people that were aghast at such a blase attitude, he was a pervert, an asshole, and had serious emotional issues. Is it really a tragedy other than for his family who are unlikely to haunt the GS forums? Right: not really. I just hope no really good items are lost from Elanthia forever. Did he have some good stuff?

I still stand by my statement that you're a sick fuck.

"Oh, he had serious emotional issues, and there were unsubstantiated claims that he liked child porn from internet douchebags who make a habit out of trolling, so what does it matter that he took his own life."

SMH

[Nieninque]

It's a real shame for Kevin and his folks, if he took his own life, but the sudden concern from (some) people about Kevin is bordering on comical. Like Jaroc, who has deleted all his/her posts in the thread Kevin started. Clearly they were not very complimentary posts and now that Kevin may have killed himself, it is "ohshitdelete" time. Spineless fuck.
Kevin was pretty messed up, if he has taken his own life, its a real shame, but in the main, people on these boards have been absolute cunts to him (not that it wasnt warranted at times), so the sudden outpouring of Eulogies is a little out of place.

Rest in peas, Kevin (if you are gone)

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1813/spelluphv9.jpg

[Tisket]

I still don't believe he's dead but, however unlikely, if he is, then I have to say, it doesn't matter or affect me at all. I don't care one way or the other. I feel vaguely sorry for his parents and friends but it's just something that doesn't touch me emotionally. He's someone that I didn't know and never met. I feel about the same level of regret that I'd feel if I read about any other stranger who offed themselves. And whatever feelings it did generate would again be all for the family and friends.

[Tisket]

lmao @ Nien's cartoon

[Warriorbird]

Poor guy. He just never could get a clue. I remember trying to help him at the Warrior Guild. I ended up tackling him in every room because he asked me the same question like 75 times in a row. If he did take his own life, he had a lot of other issues apart from GS and the PC. If not, he definitely does need more therapy.

[Alfster]

He turned out to be a decent magician. Made himself disappear.

[Androidpk]

I still don't believe he's dead but, however unlikely, if he is, then I have to say, it doesn't matter or affect me at all. I don't care one way or the other. I feel vaguely sorry for his parents and friends but it's just something that doesn't touch me emotionally. He's someone that I didn't know and never met. I feel about the same level of regret that I'd feel if I read about any other stranger who offed themselves. And whatever feelings it did generate would again be all for the family and friends.

Oh you horrible sick fuck!

[diethx]

Oh you horrible sick fuck!

The comical part is that you really don't see a difference between what Tisket said, and what Orbstar said.

[Gelston]

Thanks for the info, Paul. Never a good thing, regardless of who they were or how they acted, to lose a member of this little internet community of ours.

[Androidpk]

The comical part is that you really don't see a difference between what Tisket said, and what Orbstar said.

There wasn't much of a difference.

[Methais]

The comical part is that you really don't see a difference between what Tisket said, and what Orbstar said.

Is it because Orbstar implied something to do with religion in his post? Because other than that I don't see a difference.

[Manamethis]

If you're thinking about killing yourself. Please talk to someone and tell them how you feel. Talk to a parent, a friend, a stranger.

Suicide will only force the pain you're feeling on those around you.

[kookiegod]

I talked to his mother Joyce, his Sensei and the police.

If this this a hoax, crazy, but some stuff from fb i got today....

e here now

10:56am
Paul Jenney
so I assume this is all dreadful

10:57am
Paul Jenney
i wish i could help , i called the chandler police yesterday, Kevin was a good friend, i got him into working out and heck i was trying to help him find a lady
yes

10:57am
Kevin Tejan
we read about that

10:58am
Paul Jenney
i also kicked his ass out of gemstone when he needed to go see the sunshine outside

10:58am
Kevin Tejan
that's good. relationships are the hardest with Asperger

10:58am
Paul Jenney
so i take a lot of personal interest in my extended family

10:58am
Kevin Tejan
Thank you Paul for kicking Kevin out of Gemstone. He became a very angry person when he played the game. He recently joined Shattered again, and it was not good for him. The taunting of this last person really pushed him over the edge.
he was in the game Shattered and there was a bad person in the game
this person should be banned

10:59am
Paul Jenney
I left GS over a year ago, i moved on, BUT i met my best friend in the world and my ex-wife
but the internet is bad and games are crazy

11:00am
Kevin Tejan
Thank you for caring and thank you for your efforts with Kevin.

11:00am
Paul Jenney
is there any arrangements yet?
send flowers?
our community does care

11:02am
Kevin Tejan
we are working on those arrangements. No flowers, we appreciate the thought, but it's just a waste of money. Just keep doing the good work of being a good and caring person.

11:02am
Paul Jenney
please call me if i can share some good and bad stories, 413-246-3039
i will say a prayer for his spirit
God now has him

11:03am
Kevin Tejan
thank you. Yes he is in Heaven.

11:04am
Paul Jenney
he was always amusing, good Lord, i knew him about 10 odd years
please let me know the plans regardless, we have some folks in AZ
pay their respects
talking to so many people right now
Seen 11:10 AM


Paul Jenney
Sergeant!
Can you confirm or deny Kevin Tejan took his life yesterday.
I am part of an online group he was with and trying to find out info.
~Paul
Today

1:30pm
Gene Potocki
Hi Paul,
Yes kevin passed away friday night. He did exactly as was posted by him Police and Rescue were dispatched around 10:30 PM to his residence. Paramedics did attempt to revive him to no avail. We are sorry for his passing, he will be missed by the Five Rings Aikido which he was a member of.
-Gene

1:47pm
Paul Jenney
Thank you Sergeant for confirming. (Ex-Army, respect is given to the rank!)

1:50pm
Gene Potocki
Thanks, Sorry for the loss of your friend.
-Gene

Ed Couture
4 hours ago near Orlando, FL
Oh my god one of my best internet friends passed away this morning at the young age of 25---He was my brother in Aspergers and we both supported each other all the way through---the world lost a great magician and i truly lost a great friend---One of the biggest symptoms of Aspergers is bouts of severe depression and it hit him so hard that he hung himself in his garage. I am so scared because of my bouts with depression due to this illness but I strive to keep his memory alive by being stronger than the depression. RIP Kevin Tejan

[Tgo01]

Thank you Paul for kicking Kevin out of Gemstone. He became a very angry person when he played the game. He recently joined Shattered again, and it was not good for him. The taunting of this last person really pushed him over the edge.
he was in the game Shattered and there was a bad person in the game
this person should be banned

I agree that if this is a hoax it's a pretty elaborate hoax and I don't want to sound insensitive or anything but this quote here sounds really odd. Some of my family knows I play this game, no one actually knows (because they don't remember) the name of it, much less would they know if I played in prime as opposed to Shattered. Also I can say with certainty that no one I know would even know that someone could be banned from this game, that just seems like something only people who actually play this game would think of to say.

Unless this guy posted this stuff all over his Facebook or something and that's how his family knows this much about the game.

[Keller]

Sad news.

[zzentar]

He did post about GS on his FB, he made a post about how he was fooled by the horses being released. Copy/Pasted the whole GS website release article about Apr 1st horse hoax on his FB.

[Tgo01]

He did post about GS on his FB, he made a post about how he was fooled by the horses being released. Copy/Pasted the whole GS website release article about Apr 1st horse hoax on his FB.

Oh. That could explain a lot then I guess.

[Methais]

I agree that if this is a hoax it's a pretty elaborate hoax and I don't want to sound insensitive or anything but this quote here sounds really odd. Some of my family knows I play this game, no one actually knows (because they don't remember) the name of it, much less would they know if I played in prime as opposed to Shattered. Also I can say with certainty that no one I know would even know that someone could be banned from this game, that just seems like something only people who actually play this game would think of to say.

I was thinking the exact same thing. And the part about the "taunting of this last person", etc.

And the way that whole paragraph was spoken sounds exactly like how Warclaidhm would have typed it.

I'm still not totally convinced.

[StrayRogue]

So...he's dead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15ot8ABAWk

[zzentar]

In some backward ass way, I feel slightly culpable in all this,
When he was a 0 train character in shattered, he would never have decided to puff out his chest and start crap with the script heavy ruby writing shattered community.

I sold him his old shattered character back, for a whopping 20.00 just to be nice. I didn't realize that he would decide, 'He had the power!!!!'.

I really don't think any of this would have happened if he had not gotten Leland back

[Manamethis]

In some backward ass way, I feel slightly culpable in all this,
When he was a 0 train character in shattered, he would never have decided to puff out his chest and start crap with the script heavy ruby writing shattered community.

I sold him his old shattered character back, for a whopping 20.00 just to be nice. I didn't realize that he would decide, 'He had the power!!!!'.

I really don't think any of this would have happened if he had not gotten Leland back


I don't think that's fair to say. He was obviously having problems and he made the decisions about what happened to him.

He could have easily came back as another character.

[thefarmer]

I don't think that's fair to say. He was obviously having problems and he made the decisions about what happened to him.

He could have easily came back as another character.


You do it often enough. Don't you Inspire?

[Manamethis]

You do it often enough. Don't you Inspire?

I'm currently playing Vivaldi and Astranged.

[Jayvn]

Thank you Paul for kicking Kevin out of Gemstone. He became a very angry person when he played the game. He recently joined Shattered again, and it was not good for him. The taunting of this last person really pushed him over the edge.
he was in the game Shattered and there was a bad person in the game
this person should be banned

The lack of capitalization on 'he was in' and talking about how a person should be banned sounds like a child wrote it. Did you speak with his mom Paul or only communicate via text?

[thefarmer]

I'm currently playing

Name: Deadwind
Profession: Bard
Race: Erithian Gender: Male
He is short and appears to be very young.
He has slit-pupilled icy blue eyes and translucent pale skin.
He has a bald head.
He has a gaunt face, a thin nose and slightly pointed ears.

Name: Broker
Profession: Wizard
Race: Burghal Gnome Gender: Male

Name: Deemula
Profession: Cleric
Race: Forest Gnome Gender: Female

Name: Merindow
Profession: Empath Level: 50
Title: Healer
Race: Dwarf Gender: Male
He is short and appears to be very young.
He has beady black eyes and dark skin.
He has long, thick black hair.
He has a square-jawed face, a broad nose and a thick mustache and beard.
AFFILIATIONS
Full citizen of Zul Logoth
Member of Twilight Hall

At least until I get outed, and sell them and start over with some freshly bought characters.



http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?81038-Inspire-Characters&p=1531622#post1531622

[Jayvn]

If my kid just hung himself I wouldn't be focused on getting a bad person banned from a game....

[Tgo01]

I was thinking the exact same thing. And the part about the "taunting of this last person", etc.

And the way that whole paragraph was spoken sounds exactly like how Warclaidhm would have typed it.

I'm still not totally convinced.

I also found the part about flowers odd too. Just seems kind of harsh to say "Don't send flowers, they are a waste of money." Someone is trying to do something kind for your loved one, just sounded like an odd thing to say.

I also can't help but notice that everyone posting to his FB page about this all seem to be internet friends who have no way of actually knowing for a fact if this is true or not.

I would imagine his Sensei would have called the family personally to offer condolences but that is not a guarantee.

[Jayvn]

I blame alex/Bob for his warclaidhm rap.. I bet that was the stone that got the avalanche started!

[Manamethis]

FTFY

Thank you for another example of the type of harassment that takes place around here. Unfortunately I don't think anyone is surprised at the type of person you are.

[Jayvn]

I made a facebook profile for my cat a while back.. there are a lot of pictures and comments by him.. he could vouch for my suicide if asked... just saying... =/

[Sheikh]

Oh you horrible sick fuck!


I agree that if this is a hoax it's a pretty elaborate hoax and I don't want to sound insensitive or anything but this quote here sounds really odd. Some of my family knows I play this game, no one actually knows (because they don't remember) the name of it, much less would they know if I played in prime as opposed to Shattered. Also I can say with certainty that no one I know would even know that someone could be banned from this game, that just seems like something only people who actually play this game would think of to say.

Unless this guy posted this stuff all over his Facebook or something and that's how his family knows this much about the game.

This is exactly what popped into my head, I was trying to avoid this thread, but I am not buying it at all. And the hypocrisy of all the people that are trying to point fingers and tell the world how bad they feel is irritating. For years everyone on the PC either insulted him or ignored him. If you weren't willing to help him out a year ago, you probably don't really mean it. Also I learned that Tisket and myself have even more in common today. We both feel the same about this topic, and we both like to touch her naughty bits in the shower.

[Methais]

If you weren't willing to help him out a year ago, you probably don't really mean it.

I've tried to give the dude advice several times over the years. It went in one ear and out the other 100% of the time. Eventually I accepted the fact that it was a lost cause.

Also:


Thank you Paul for kicking Kevin out of Gemstone. He became a very angry person when he played the game. He recently joined Shattered again, and it was not good for him. The taunting of this last person really pushed him over the edge.
he was in the game Shattered and there was a bad person in the game
this person should be banned

Considering that for a good portion of his time in GS he was high school age and I'm assuming his parents were paying for his subscription...you'd think that if they knew what an angry person that GS made him become, they would have cancelled his account years ago, well before he got permabanned from Prime.

And the bit about "this last person taunting him pushed him over the edge" totally fits the Warclaidhm profile of attention seeking + trying to rile people up against an "enemy". And how the fuck would they even know about "this last person taunting him" anyway, since it's only a few days old? Classic Warclaidhm shenanigans.

Also, wouldn't you think his parents would be too busy grieving and making funeral arrangements to be playing with his facebook account all day?

It's been suggested to him several times to "disappear" and return with a completely new identity and start over from scratch in regards to GS and whatnot. I'm pretty sure he's tried it before but everyone saw through it, so maybe he thought that going the "I'm not Warclaidhm, he killed himself irl!" route might be more fruitful. Or maybe the pedobear accusations from the Kayous thread were legit and he's trying to nip it in the bud. Who the fuck knows.

Either way, this whole thing...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnw0trIf2D1qm46yeo1_400.jpg

[Drew]

Yeah that bit about "The guy should be banned" is classic Warclaidhm stuff. I actually hope he is hoaxing us because, while he was annoying as hell, I wouldn't want him to kill himself.

[Methais]

Not to mention if they think a guy in GS pushed him over the edge, they'd be more worried about getting the cops involved on him instead of having him banned from a text game, with the whole "cyberbullying" craze going on the past few years.

Maybe this is an elaborate plot to try and get Kayous banned from Shattered due to Simu being in fear of a lawsuit. :lol:

One thing you can always count on Warclaidhm for is he eventually outs himself by accident.

[Manamethis]

I've tried to give the dude advice several times over the years. It went in one ear and out the other 100% of the time. Eventually I accepted the fact that it was a lost cause.

Also:



Considering that for a good portion of his time in GS he was high school age and I'm assuming his parents were paying for his subscription...you'd think that if they knew what an angry person that GS made him become, they would have cancelled his account years ago, well before he got permabanned from Prime.

And the bit about "this last person taunting him pushed him over the edge" totally fits the Warclaidhm profile of attention seeking + trying to rile people up against an "enemy". And how the fuck would they even know about "this last person taunting him" anyway, since it's only a few days old? Classic Warclaidhm shenanigans.

Also, wouldn't you think his parents would be too busy grieving and making funeral arrangements to be playing with his facebook account all day?

It's been suggested to him several times to "disappear" and return with a completely new identity and start over from scratch in regards to GS and whatnot. I'm pretty sure he's tried it before but everyone saw through it, so maybe he thought that going the "I'm not Warclaidhm, he killed himself irl!" route might be more fruitful. Or maybe the pedobear accusations from the Kayous thread were legit and he's trying to nip it in the bud. Who the fuck knows.

Either way, this whole thing...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnw0trIf2D1qm46yeo1_400.jpg



The taunting/banning part is a little strange. If this turns out to be a hoax I think I'm going to hang myself just to prove that Tisket is mean and people will die because of it.

[Tisket]

Well, we have absolute proof that Warclaidhm hasn't the ability to maintain a fiction. Give it time. One day he'll out himself.

[Tgo01]

Post on his FB: I'm hanging myself.

Post on his FB supposedly from his mother: Kevin hung himself in the garage and the paramedics tried their hardest to revive him.

Message from his sensei: Police and Rescue were dispatched around 10:30 PM to his residence. Paramedics did attempt to revive him to no avail.

They all seem to be saying the exact same thing. I realize if this really happened it only makes sense their stories would line up but this is a little too exact. Why mention at all that the paramedics tried to rescue him? Why did they both feel the need to mention that they tried and failed? Was it really necessary to tell everyone that he actually hung himself in the garage a few hours after he supposedly did so? If this is true I can't possibly imagine what is going on in his mother's mind right now but I would imagine she would just say something like he took his own life yesterday or something to that effect.

The only thing that has me wondering is the sensei. I highly doubt it's a fake FB page made in an effort to back up his story, look at the FB page, he has over 500 friends, he must have been planning this for a while if that's the case to make it look so real. The only other options are:

1) This is all legit.
2) The sensei never bothered to call the family and is only relaying information he has from the FB post.
3) The sensei or kookiegod are helping with this hoax.

[SHAFT]

What Methais said. It's all very fishy

[TheEschaton]

The sensei is the strange point, I agree. If he actually talked to the parents and they confirmed it, that's one thing.

Also, when the police say "we can't talk about it," that doesn't mean a person is dead. It usually means there's an investigation in process. "Talk to the parents" could be anything from "He hung himself" to "He's snapped and has been committed" to "He initiated an elaborate hoax which we had to investigate because a police report was filed and the parents are embarrassed." Personally, every cop I know has no issue saying "such and such a person has died," as long as next of kin has been informed first, but they hem and haw when a person is still alive and there's some sort of privacy concern.

[Taernath]

Fucking bizarre. He's only 15 minutes away from me.

[TheEschaton]

You know what that means. It means you need to go investigate.

[Nieninque]

So...he's dead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15ot8ABAWk

Ugh...at least post the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw

Umm...that's not the original upload, but the original video at least.

[Taernath]

You know what that means. It means you need to go investigate.

If I had his address I'd do a drive by.

[Leew]

I can't speak for the policies of other police departments, BUT in Texas, if someone is found dead we are allowed to say if the person is alive or deceased. The cause of death is even given out in a lot of cases. Now, if the person in question is a minor that is a whole different matter. There are always records of deaths, the county, city, state. The EMS and thats all civil. Not to mention all the private records, such as place of residence, or insurance. In america there is no way to have no paper trail.

[FaenorDragonfly]

FTFY

edit: According to green rep, I missed Ostan and Trennia.

Oh, that explains a lot about Ostan's contribution to the Lnet conversation about Warclaidhm last night. Douches will be douches.

[Jayvn]

Apparently joyce and paul live on E. harrison St Chandler AZ...... go go google power... go see if there are garages in the area...

[Jayvn]

884 to be exact... am I breaking some forum rules or anything.. seeing how it's on the internet already?

[RichardCranium]

884 to be exact... am I breaking some forum rules or anything.. seeing how it's on the internet already?

No but Inspire may kill your cat. Not in a good way either like what I do to Tisket.

[Manamethis]

Oh, that explains a lot about Ostan's contribution to the Lnet conversation about Warclaidhm last night. Douches will be douches.

Are you Spankyn?

Maybe this bothers me more because I have worked at a suicide prevention center but the lack of humanity and respect for life is pretty disgusting.

[RichardCranium]

Are you Spankyn?

Maybe this bothers me more because I have worked at a suicide prevention center but the lack of humanity and respect for life is pretty disgusting.

Bring me the gun, I'll fucking do it for you.

[FaenorDragonfly]

Based on the posted FB conversation with Kevin's "mother" (why am I getting flashes of Norman Bates here?), I call bullshit. I sincerely hope that he did not kill himself, because regardless of how he acted in the game or forums, that would be a tragedy for his family. That said, I am 97% sure that he is reading all of this on an alt account, and this is a big hoax. I don't think Paul is necessarily a part of the hoax, but I do think that he is being hoaxed to and is passing that unsubstantiated information on to us. There has to be a way to substantiate this, aside from social media that could be anyone?

[Jayvn]

The satellite view is weird... one person in his little cookie cutter suburb has grass in their backyard... everyone else has a yard of dirt.

[FaenorDragonfly]

Are you Spankyn?

Maybe this bothers me more because I have worked at a suicide prevention center but the lack of humanity and respect for life is pretty disgusting.

No, I am not Spankyn, but I was a part of that conversation.

[Alfster]

1) This is all legit.
2) The sensei never bothered to call the family and is only relaying information he has from the FB post.
3) The sensei or kookiegod are helping with this hoax.

I believe #3

[Taernath]

The satellite view is weird... one person in his little cookie cutter suburb has grass in their backyard... everyone else has a yard of dirt.

Apparently the house was built in 2010. It's also probably not dirt, but gravel.

[Manamethis]

Bring me the gun, I'll fucking do it for you.

I don't struggle with that problem but I did work to talk people off the ledge. I'm happy for you that suicide is a laughing matter but I don't find it a joke after working many hours to try to save a person who is struggling very deeply.

[Methais]

Ugh...at least post the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw

Umm...that's not the original upload, but the original video at least.

Great moments in Warcraft history.

I love this video even more than how much Kayous should be banned for pushing Warclaidhm over the edge with his taunting.

[Jayvn]

http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=13571656&ac=now

[Methais]

Are you Spankyn?

Maybe this bothers me more because I have worked at a suicide prevention center but the lack of humanity and respect for life is pretty disgusting.

Does the person killing him/herself not have a lack of humanity or respect for human life? If not for their own, then for those affected by it, family, etc.?

Also I can pretty much guarantee that Paul isn't in on this if it turns out to be a hoax. He's just not a douche like that. At worst, he's being taken for a ride by Warclaidhm.

[Jayvn]

Who wants to call the house and ask?

[Tgo01]

Who wants to call the house and ask?

My balls aren't that big.

[FaenorDragonfly]

Are you Spankyn?

Maybe this bothers me more because I have worked at a suicide prevention center but the lack of humanity and respect for life is pretty disgusting.

You seem to be confusing not believing that he did it (or at least requiring more proof than FB and some random people on lnet saying it is so) with not caring if it is true. You were so full of angst and rage last night on lnet because people were saying "What? Huh? Are you sure? How do you know?". That != people being glad he did or not caring if he did. You were and are one of the worst offenders of passing this unsubstantiated rumour off as cold hard fact. If you are that gullible and ready to believe everything you hear without proof, you are an idiot. If you are just trolling at the expense of a person who may or may not have committed suicide, you are a piece of shit.

[Tisket]

http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=13571656&ac=now

Listening to that made me want to shoot myself. Or stab myself in the ears.

[SHAFT]

Great moments in Warcraft history.

I love this video even more than how much Kayous should be banned for pushing Warclaidhm over the edge with his taunting.

I suddenly have the urge to log into WoW

[RichardCranium]

Listening to that made me want to shoot myself. Or stab myself in the ears.

You trying to drive Bob to kill himself now?

[Showal]

You seem to be confusing not believing that he did it (or at least requiring more proof than FB and some random people on lnet saying it is so) with not caring if it is true. You were so full of angst and rage last night on lnet because people were saying "What? Huh? Are you sure? How do you know?". That != people being glad he did or not caring if he did. You were and are one of the worst offenders of passing this unsubstantiated rumour off as cold hard fact. If you are that gullible and ready to believe everything you hear without proof, you are an idiot. If you are just trolling at the expense of a person who may or may not have committed suicide, you are a piece of shit.

He's a piece of shit.

[Tisket]

You trying to drive Bob to kill himself now?

I don't get it. Did Bob write that? lmao

[RichardCranium]

I don't get it. Did Bob write that? lmao

Warclaidhm wrote it and posted it here. Bob put it to music.

[Jayvn]

Kevin wrote it, Bob 'rapped' it.. hence the c'mon 2x instead of saying c'mon c'mon...

[Tisket]

hahahahaha omg

[subzero]

Haha, I was wondering why the fuck anyone would be stupid enough to actually pronounce '2x'.

[Parkbandit]

http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=13571656&ac=now

This is Bob's greatest work.

Ever.

[Sheikh]

When was this 'rap' made?

[Showal]

When was this 'rap' made?

like 2005 or something.

[RichardCranium]

My favorite part is Bob laughingly saying, "what the fuck..."

[Tisket]

This is Bob's greatest work.

Ever.

I listened to it again and it is painfully hilarious knowing it's Bob now.

[SHAFT]

The first time I heard it I thought it was just some song. But now knowing it's Bob and listening to him laugh while rapping, it's priceless. ffff-fresh!

[Tgo01]

By 'Bob' do we mean Bobmuthol or some other person? I don't know many real names on here :(

[SHAFT]

By 'Bob' do we mean Bobmuthol or some other person? I don't know many real names on here :(

Yeah, bobmuthol or however you spell it

Never realized Bob was so gangster!

[Latrinsorm]

Bobmuhthol's real name is Bob B. Knife, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[FaenorDragonfly]

Never realized Bob was so gangsta!

Fixed.

[RichardCranium]

Bobmuhthol's real name is Bob B. Knife, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I thought it was Johnny Wishbone.

[Latrinsorm]

My first thought was "Keanu, right?"
My second thought was "I am ashamed, why would I know that!?"
My third thought was "I am ashamed, how could I mess that up!?!?" and to obtain a firearm to fire into the air in anguish.
Madilyn Bailey still loves me.

[Bobmuhthol]

I can't believe Jayvn still had the myspace link for that.

[SHAFT]

I can't believe Jayvn still had the myspace link for that.

You should've made a video. Bling, 40 oz'ers, bitches, everything!

[Latrinsorm]

That's very irresponsible, SHAFT. Bob was barely in high school at that point, way too early for bling.

[Androidpk]

That's very irresponsible, SHAFT. Bob was barely in high school at that point, way too early for bling.

Tell that to Lil Poopy.

[Drisco]

He turned out to be a decent magician. Made himself disappear.

Amazing. I instantly pictured this when you said that.

4913

[SHAFT]

That's very irresponsible, SHAFT. Bob was barely in high school at that point, way too early for bling.

You only live once latrin. #yoloswag

[SayGoodbye]

"Gene Potocki
Hi Paul,
Yes kevin passed away friday night. He did exactly as was posted by him Police and Rescue were dispatched around 10:30 PM to his residence. Paramedics did attempt to revive him to no avail. We are sorry for his passing, he will be missed by the Five Rings Aikido which he was a member of.
-Gene"

So, if he passed away Friday night, did his parents log into his weight loss forums account Saturday morning at 8:06 AM? http://weight-loss.fitness.com/members/49701-SparkErosion?tab=activitystream&type=user&page=1

I mean, I suppose it's possible but it's strange.

Also, I wouldn't worry about any fallout if this does turn out to be true. A five minute google search showed multiple postings from him on different forums going back several years discussing suicide and other disturbing topics.

[Sheikh]

^ dude is a google ninja

[Bobmuhthol]

So, if he passed away Friday night, did his parents log into his weight loss forums account Saturday morning at 8:06 AM? http://weight-loss.fitness.com/membe...pe=user&page=1 (http://weight-loss.fitness.com/members/49701-SparkErosion?tab=activitystream&type=user&page=1)Is it really that weird? Especially since it's not a matter of logging into anything, but something as simple as clicking a bookmark or looking at browser history. Unless you think it's weird to have cookies enabled.

[Glitch]

All times are +5 GMT on there, which makes it before 10pm if he is/was Central or further west.

[Bobmuhthol]

All times are +5 GMT on there, idk what that makes it for wherever he was. Someone else figure that out.I didn't even bother to check this because such an investigative mind should have caught that already. Since the relevant time zone is PDT, GMT -7, it would make that time 8:06 PM Friday night.

Maybe I'm just a sucker, but I am not questioning the validity of Warclaidhm's suicide. I have no moral high ground to stand on, but I am puzzled by the dozens of posts in this thread dedicated to blindly calling it a hoax and taking the opportunity to continue attacking him. The better alternative is to just say nothing, honestly.

[StrayRogue]

http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=13571656&ac=now
Bob may as well be dead now, his greatest work was created long ago.

[Sheikh]

I am still saying this is a hoax, the grammar and constantly using the exact terminology and explinations in multiple forms of contact from supposedly multiple different people is fishy. Knowing about the different forms of GS and the punishments within is sketchy. Knowing that he was recently fucked over by a player here is sketchy. Logging into a different forum through history/cookies but not this one is sketchy. All of that combined, plus some other info I probably missed by not reading every post, not really giving a shit, and drinking makes this all seem like a big hoax to get attention.

The only thing I can maybe see happening down the road, is that this is a giant ploy from him to ensure he doesn't ever come back to GS because the magic lightbulb in his head finally turned on and he realized that this game is bad for him and he shouldn't play. Orrr.... he just wants attention.

I'm going with attention.

Lastly: Who the fuck tells a 'friend' not to send flowers to a funeral because it is a waste of money. I think Paul is getting duped or in on this. If he talked to the parents and they told him not to send anything because there is no point I don't buy that shit for a second.

[DCSL]

I've had people tell me not to send flowers but it has always, always been immediately followed with a request to send the money I would have spent on flowers to a certain charity instead in the deceased's name.

[Bobmuhthol]

Lastly: Who the fuck tells a 'friend' not to send flowers to a funeral because it is a waste of money. I think Paul is getting duped or in on this. If he talked to the parents and they told him not to send anything because there is no point I don't buy that shit for a second.Specifically asking that people do not send flowers is a very common practice. Yeah, it would also coincide with someone not trying to attract attention at his home, but it's not an unusual statement.

[Sheikh]

My drinking has impaired my googling skills, however a quick search for warclaidhm brought up an interesting dictionaryslang site.

[Tgo01]

I've had people tell me not to send flowers but it has always, always been immediately followed with a request to send the money I would have spent on flowers to a certain charity instead in the deceased's name.

That's what I was going to say. Asking people to not send flowers isn't an odd thing for people to say, they usually request money instead to help pay for funeral costs or as you suggested to donate to a charity. But to just say "Don't send flowers, waste of money" seems odd to me.

[Bobmuhthol]

Okay, but do you think that you would say, "Don't send flowers, please give me funeral costs or donate to this charity" to someone on the internet that you've never spoken to before the next day?

[Tgo01]

Okay, but do you think that you would say, "Don't send flowers, please give me funeral costs or donate to this charity" to someone on the internet that you've never spoken to before the next day?

I don't see why not if they knew my son and had just offered to spend money on flowers for him.

[Sheikh]

I would probably be too busy crying to even answer the phone if my child killed themselves, however I don't think any money spent on my daughter is a waste of money no matter what it is.

[Drew]

I would probably be too busy crying to even answer the phone if my child killed themselves, however I don't think any money spent on my daughter is a waste of money no matter what it is.

Although if he did off himself you would imagine his parents had some time to prepare for that.

[Liagala]

Okay, but do you think that you would say, "Don't send flowers, please give me funeral costs or donate to this charity" to someone on the internet that you've never spoken to before the next day?
Yes, I would. That's what you're expected to say, and in a situation that stressful people tend to fall back on what they know. In my case (and many others) it's following the societal rules for what's appropriate and what isn't. It's expected that those who cared for the deceased will want to do something, and if that something isn't flowers, it's always a donation to somewhere. Saying "It's a waste of money" would never occur to me. Saying something that far outside of normal polite responses takes coherent thought, and that would be in rather short supply if I had just lost my child.

[Stabbyrogue]

So I skimmed the thread. I'm beat so I probably missed it, but does anyone know for sure if this happened? It feels terrible that I even have to ask, but he was kind of known for this kind of stuff after a while. I really hope that if this is true, it wasn't because of some fucked up Gemstone situation. Not that this would ONLY be caused by that, but fuck. The kid had Asperger Syndrome. Who knows.

And I get that this is the PC and a lot of people really dig into others, calling out bullshit, warranted, and not. But some of your comments are fucking disgusting. Could you imagine losing a child to suicide, logging onto a forum you know they loved (I know I would), and seeing some of the shit on here regarding Kevin? Personally, I'd think in that state, one could legitimately snap, and the internet could get very real for whoever posted it.

He was a good kid, problems aside. At least don't make his family read terrible things once they do find their way here.


I'm done with the scolding mini rant. I love how straightforward the PC is. But yeah, sometimes it can go a bit far.

[thefarmer]

So I skimmed the thread. I'm beat so I probably missed it, but does anyone know for sure if this happened? It feels terrible that I even have to ask, but he was kind of known for this kind of stuff after a while. I really hope that if this is true, it wasn't because of some fucked up Gemstone situation. Not that this would ONLY be caused by that, but fuck. The kid had Asperger Syndrome. Who knows.

And I get that this is the PC and a lot of people really dig into others, calling out bullshit, warranted, and not. But some of your comments are fucking disgusting. Could you imagine losing a child to suicide, logging onto a forum you know they loved (I know I would), and seeing some of the shit on here regarding Kevin? Personally, I'd think in that state, one could legitimately snap, and the internet could get very real for whoever posted it.

He was a good kid, problems aside. At least don't make his family read terrible things once they do find their way here.


I'm done with the scolding mini rant. I love how straightforward the PC is. But yeah, sometimes it can go a bit far.

Nice avatar bud.

[Latrinsorm]

/thread
/forum
/internet

[Jarvan]

When my dad died, we told people not to send flowers, but to instead donate to cancer research since that is what he died from.

Of course some people didn't listen, and still sent flowers. Frankly, I feel that flowers are a waste of money, since they die. I am not saying it's a hoax, but if my child had killed themselves, I would certainly accept anything offered in their name. Be it flowers, or a donation to charity... I am sure there are a few that would apply in this case.

As for the Time zone thing with the weight loss page... wouldn't PDT make it 8:06 PM? If he was PDT, then that would be -12 from the site. Depends when they say he killed himself then, if it was before 8 PM, why would someone log into his computer and go to that specific site so soon. If it was after this time.. well.. people do odd things before they off themselves, I guess logging into your weight loss forum isn't so weird.

[SHAFT]

Chandler az is mountain time

[Jarvan]

Chandler az is mountain time

Ok, no idea where he lived, so was just going by what was said. If it was mountain time, then it would be what, 9:06 pm? since it would be -11 hours. Then again, AZ doesn't observe daylight savings time last I heard. So that would again add an hour and that's why it is considered PST in this case, which would still make it -12 hours. And 8:06 pm.

[Taernath]

Chandler az is mountain time

Arizona does what it wants. It's currently PST.

[SHAFT]

Arizona does what it wants. It's currently PST.

Really? If you google chandler az time zone a number of things pop up as mountain time.

[Gelston]

Really? If you google chandler az time zone a number of things pop up as mountain time.

It is, when DST isn't in effect. They don't do DST, so while technically it is "Mountain Time" in reality it isn't during certain times of the year.

[Taernath]

Really? If you google chandler az time zone a number of things pop up as mountain time.

Are you doubting the guy who has 'AZ' as his location?

[Tisket]

Are you doubting the guy who has 'AZ' as his location?

We doubt death here.

[SHAFT]

Are you doubting the guy who has 'AZ' as his location?

Hey take it easy man!

[zzentar]

I sent Kevin's mom a note and this is a screenshot of her reply. figured this might help any doubters out there.4915

[Latrinsorm]

I for one eagerly await Samuel L. Jackson vs. Atma.

[Taernath]

Hey take it easy man!

I am posting a smiley to let you know I wasn't being hostile.

:)

[Jarvan]

Arizona does what it wants. It's currently PST.

Technically, it's always MST, it's never PST.

[Jarvan]

I sent Kevin's mom a note and this is a screenshot of her reply. figured this might help any doubters out there.4915

Well, if it's a hoax, it's a pretty good one.

Although, if I wanted to pretend to kill off my online persona to either get away from a game, to try to get some sympathy from people that hate me, or to maybe retaliate someway, I am sure I could get friends and family to go along.

[AnticorRifling]

If he killed himself, it's not because of what happened on an internet forum, it's because of what was happening in his life. The internet isn't a safe haven for the bad shit going on in your life. None of us are trained therapists. Shit, I see a shrink every week because my work is emotionally draining, I don't think it's appropriate to come here with my issues, neither should any of you, neither should Warclaidhm.

No one stuck up for him on this forum, some people actively heckled him. I don't think any of those people had anything to do with his death (if news of said death is real). Outing him as a potential child molester? Maybe. But again, as long as it wasn't libel, come on. On the flip side, shows of sorrow and pity do strike me as a bit insincere, sort of like Republican lawmakers who become pro-gay when they find out their son is gay. It's a shame if it's true because he didn't get help, and that's an appropriate response, but I'm not overly upset about it or my supposed role in it as a member of these forums. I barely said anything to the kid in 9 years on these forums. If you think this is the first suicide of anyone on these boards, you're silly.
He was also banned and kept making new screen names to get around it...I just didn't catch the last one.

[SHAFT]

Interesting read below. He was posting suicide stuff on the magic forums he visited as well.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=507620&forum=61&start=90

[Drisco]

Interesting read below. He was posting suicide stuff on the magic forums he visited as well.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=507620&forum=61&start=90

Here I thought we were the only forum in his life. I feel cheated.

It's like when your husband/wife dies and you find out they've had an affair for years.

[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah, it's just like that, and you would know what that feels like.

[Drisco]

Yeah, it's just like that, and you would know what that feels like.

I saw it on a TV show once, I really empathized.

[Methais]

We need an emissary sent over there.

[SHAFT]

I feel bad for calling him an attention whore. Kid was clearly troubled.

I never read his blog until now but it's sad as shit.

[Tisket]

We need an emissary sent over there.

Why? To find out once and for all if it's true? What's an emissary going to ask, "can I see the body please?" I think we can all agree that would be a bad, bad idea.

If it's just to offer sympathy, that can be accomplished in other ways.

[Methais]

Why?

So they can see your boobs on the magic forum.

[Tisket]

So they can see your boobs on the magic forum.

Oh you meant that forum. I thought you meant the parents home. My bad.

[Whirlin]

I dunno, with a simple key logger, I think it could be easily fabricated. Keyloggers are pretty readily available too, especially if you have physical access to a device, such as that at a dojo, or whoever that second person was. I doubt my mother would be tech savvy enough to know if I were to log into her facebook account and post stuff.

I think the next few days would add in some clarification for two key reasons:
If other people are posting on his FB wall and stuff, that should be some indication. If it's silent, it's likely being regulated. I don't know his age, but if he's not at school, etc...
Additionally, I would expect a news report about it out of his local town/county.

I was gone for a long run though. Was he that bad on the forums, or was this going back to the psinet days?

[Methais]

Oh you meant that forum. I thought you meant the parents home. My bad.

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx50/featherstone-godly/wandmayhem.gif

:)

[SHAFT]

I dunno, with a simple key logger, I think it could be easily fabricated. Keyloggers are pretty readily available too, especially if you have physical access to a device, such as that at a dojo, or whoever that second person was. I doubt my mother would be tech savvy enough to know if I were to log into her facebook account and post stuff.

He's got a lot of people fooled if this is a hoax. He has threatened suicide in the past though.

[Tisket]

I dunno, with a simple key logger, I think it could be easily fabricated. Keyloggers are pretty readily available too, especially if you have physical access to a device, such as that at a dojo, or whoever that second person was. I doubt my mother would be tech savvy enough to know if I were to log into her facebook account and post stuff.

I think the next few days would add in some clarification for two key reasons:
If other people are posting on his FB wall and stuff, that should be some indication. If it's silent, it's likely being regulated. I don't know his age, but if he's not at school, etc...
Additionally, I would expect a news report about it out of his local town/county.

I was gone for a long run though. Was he that bad on the forums, or was this going back to the psinet days?

We're not talking about James Bond here. Seems a bit of a stretch to think Warclaidhm would install a keylogger on not only his parents computer but his sensei's as well. He always struck me as more impulsive than someone who would go to such lengths to fabricate a hoax.

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't know why this is still under amateur investigation.

[Tisket]

I don't know why this is still under amateur investigation.

Wishful thinking? Some people would rather believe it's a hoax than that the kid is dead.

[Merala]

I have been cautious about weighing in on this one. I was sincerely hopeful that this was not true. The idea that Kevin would do something (pulling a hoax like this) that would be so hurtful to so many people is sad, but I still hoped that this was a hoax, since the alternative is even worse. I have known Kevin on an off for about eleven years now. He was one of my first friends in Gemstone, and even though he's had his problems, I have never seen him lash out unprovoked. I did not know that he was back posting on the PC, and only recently did I find out he's been back in Gemstone.

I haven't talked to him much since he was banned. I honestly don't know why he was banned, even.

I hope that whether this is real or a hoax we can take to heart the lesson here. While I would never expect the PC to be nicey nice all the time, it might do a great service to this community if we start thinking about the fact that there is a real person on the other end of the keyboard. Perhaps before we are unnecessarily cruel in the future, we will consider that real person, and their real feelings and the real problems they face in life. I say we because even though I was not a part of the bullying and cruelty that took place here, I did not stand up for him. We are a community, and ignorance is not an excuse. We really should expect more of our community members than some of the things that have gone on this past week.

Also, no we cannot lay the blame on PC posters here. Kevin had many very real issues, and this was not the result of some internet bullies. He did not kill himself (assuming he did) because some people said some nasty things on an internet forum. If he did in fact kill himself, it was a result of many things in his life which he could never cope. Fitting in anywhere, including on an internet message board, was simply one of them.

I am deeply saddened by what has happened. I hope that where ever Kevin is, even if he is still on this earth, he is in a better place spiritually and emotionally. I am sad to know that he was back and I did not realize it in time to reconnect. He was always very kind to me, and during our friendship I always saw him as a big brother and protector. He is only a few months older than I am, which makes this even more of a tragedy, as our young lives are only just beginning at this age.

I still am hopeful that this is just not true, but it's really looking bad.

[FaenorDragonfly]

I was the biggest doubter, I was sure this was a hoax. But, I am convinced now that it is not a hoax, I believe he really did hang himself.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Haven't read anything other than he may have hung himself. If it's true, I feel very bad. Not much more to say... just that if I could go back in time knowing this end, I might have been nicer to him.

[Drew]

http://www.azlegacyfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Kevin-Tejan/

[Gelston]

I think that should confirm it for any doubters. I was hoping it was a hoax, although I didn't think it was one.

Actually... I thought this happened on the 13th?

[Merala]

I still had a little hope that this was just a really bad hoax. So sad. I'm sorry life was so hard for you, Kevin. I really mean that.

[Bobmuhthol]

But like, you guys are only giving him the attention that he wants, he's reading all of this and laughing.

[Whirlin]

Thanks for posting that Drew...

@ the people who responded to my earlier post...
I was gone when the entire drama with Warclaidhm happened. The extent that I dealt with him was back in the Cul-de-sac, where I'm sure I slept him a few times when he was being stupid. I really have no idea about any subsequent drama on the forums. Or maybe it was just too long ago for me. I never really equated him as an idiot, just young at the time. I mean, I have faith that Bobmuhthol could pull something like this off if he wanted to, and Warclaid was two years older.

[TheEschaton]

That's weird, April 14th was yesterday, Sunday. This thread was started on the 13th, Saturday. I'm assuming they just got the date wrong.

[Sheikh]

Or he was in the hospital for some time on life support or something similar.