New Cmans and the grim

[Suppressed Poet]

Anyone know if the grimswarm and/or bandits use any of the new martial stances or shield maneuvers? Thanks!

Also - id assume so but it is gemstone...so...has anyone confirmed if cunning defence helps against the new shield mans spent through shield points instead of cmans? Also, I wonder if shield training helps defend against those?

[Donquix]

The latter I don't know but CD should. And Coase made them so, it's not likely they were coded awful since Coase is the man.