Sexual harassment?

[mouserat]

I am a regular poster on here, but I wanted to be anon for this question. I've been having some issues with a guy I work with, but I am worried that if I report it to his boss I will be perceived as one of those overreacting females. So, since you guys might actually represent a cross section of humanity, I want your opinions.

Here's a summary:


unwanted hugging everytime I see him
grabbed my ass
has talked about his erection to me during phone conversations
has made comments to me that he'd like to fuck me
touches me when we see each other (on the hand, arm and knee)
comments on my clothes and how i look in them
puts his arm around me and pulls me close, even after i step away


This stuff makes me uncomfortable, and I've said as much to him. He hasn't stopped.

So, what up, PC? Am I overreacting? Or is this worth saying something about?

PS - Anticor, don't out me!

[Gelston]

I want to say just fuck the guy already, but you should report it. It is pretty textbook sexual harassment.

[Gnome Rage]

You're not overreacting. You have said it makes you uncomfortable and he has not ceased the behavior which makes you feel unsettled. It is of a sexual nature, clearly. You have the right, and you should say something.

[Back]

If talking to him directly does not change his behavior then report him.

[Back]

PS. Don't listen to the trolls.

[Whirlin]

Gotta document that you've asked him to stop... put it in an e-mail or something... The more documentation you have to support your case, the better.

[Kastrel]

Agreed.

Ask him one more time, make it very clear. "I want you to stop touching me. I am not interested in you." I love the email idea.

If he lifts a finger ever-after, report away. I'm not saying give him one more chance for his benefit, but it makes for a more compelling case if you do it in that way.

[SHAFT]

Whatever you do don't ignore it. Give him a notice that enough is enough and if it continues talk to someone.

[Sile]

I used to manage a small company a few years ago and had to deal with this situation.

Documentation is key, if it turns into a he said she said thing, its hard for any manager to take a side. He could deny it and walk away unpunished. Which is fine if you want it to stop, but it's rare for this type of thing to stop without a punishment (transfer, demotion, firing, etc)

Don't do anything with him outside of work, restrict all communication to just business. Tell your manager/boss (since you already told him you are uncomfortable).

Sexual harasment is nothing to joke about, most women and espically men are afraid to report it. You made your point by telling him to stop and that it make you uncomfortable, it's not something you have to reiterate to him.

[Tgo01]

Casually mention that Lorena Bobbit is your hero and that you carry a knife with your at all times.

Or that reporting thing.

[Kastrel]

Why is Tgo01's post showing up as the most recent activity in the What's New feed, but is showing up before Sile's post here? Exact same post-time bug?

[diethx]

Gotta document that you've asked him to stop... put it in an e-mail or something... The more documentation you have to support your case, the better.

This. Make sure you send an email so it's documented that you asked him to stop. If he doesn't listen, report him.

[Tgo01]

Why is Tgo01's post showing up as the most recent activity in the What's New feed, but is showing up before Sile's post here? Exact same post-time bug?

Because I'm Tgo01.

[Oxxon]

Documentation, documentation, documentation... Has anyone else at work seen this rebel scum... I mean scum touch you at work?

[Rucca]

I have to reply to this thread. I am seriously floored right now that I woke up this morning to see it on the boards. The timing is amazing and I feel like it's a sign for me to do the same thing. I am also going through this. I've been sick to my stomach over it all because I don't like conflict and I'm the type of person who gives people chances and the benefit of the doubt. I was recently hired a week ago as the bartender at this really nice place. The manager who hired me has since then done a lot of what you had posted above. He's called me to ask me out for drinks to discuss ideas for promoting, which I've declined. He's hugged me, poked me in the small of my back, in which I cringe, pulled on my braids...in which I told him to stop last night. Commented on my ass saying "Ooooh look at that" as he stared me down. Commented on my body numerous times...told me to come into work tomorrow for inventory wearing pasties and a g-string.
I'm so uncomfortable around him and I dread going into work. It's lead up to me having zero respect for him and now, since I deny his advances and flirting I have a "bad attitude". He tried to send me home from work last night early without collecting my tips and finishing up with my guests. I did finish work, though, but I practically left in tears. I'm going to talk to the owner when I go back to work after spring break. I'm just so nervous about it.

[Parkbandit]

Gotta document that you've asked him to stop... put it in an e-mail or something... The more documentation you have to support your case, the better.

This.

You've spoken to him, but he could easily say you've never told him that his actions are unwelcome. Email him through the company email system. If he continues, you should report him to HR or your supervisor.

[Parkbandit]

I have to reply to this thread. I am seriously floored right now that I woke up this morning to see it on the boards. The timing is amazing and I feel like it's a sign for me to do the same thing. I am also going through this. I've been sick to my stomach over it all because I don't like conflict and I'm the type of person who gives people chances and the benefit of the doubt. I was recently hired a week ago as the bartender at this really nice place. The manager who hired me has since then done a lot of what you had posted above. He's called me to ask me out for drinks to discuss ideas for promoting, which I've declined. He's hugged me, poked me in the small of my back, in which I cringe, pulled on my braids...in which I told him to stop last night. Commented on my ass saying "Ooooh look at that" as he stared me down. Commented on my body numerous times...told me to come into work tomorrow for inventory wearing pasties and a g-string.
I'm so uncomfortable around him and I dread going into work. It's lead up to me having zero respect for him and now, since I deny his advances and flirting I have a "bad attitude". He tried to send me home from work last night early without collecting my tips and finishing up with my guests. I did finish work, though, but I practically left in tears. I'm going to talk to the owner when I go back to work after spring break. I'm just so nervous about it.

In this case, tell your father or brother or good friend to pay this douche a visit....

To respond to another thread.. I can see how this would increase the number of deaths by bare hands...

[Drew]

I voted for option 3 just to give RojoDisco an aneurysm when she read it, but I totally agree with what everyone said. Tell him unequivocally that you are not interested and that you want your relationship to be strictly professional. Then stop being friendly with him (if you are). That way he can't claim mixed signals, etc. If he persists after that definitely report him.

Also whatever your main account is should give an opinion on this thread so we can't out you by process of elimination.

[Rucca]

In this case, tell your father or brother or good friend to pay this douche a visit....

To respond to another thread.. I can see how this would increase the number of deaths by bare hands...

I'm alone here, which sucks. It's just me and my little girl. I'm hoping by talking to the owner it will help things. If I end up losing my job over it, then so be it. I'd rather not deal with this day after day. It's horrible. I don't even dress suggestively. I've even told him after the pasties and g-string comment, that this isn't Vegas dude.

[Sile]

I'm alone here, which sucks. It's just me and my little girl. I'm hoping by talking to the owner it will help things. If I end up losing my job over it, then so be it. I'd rather not deal with this day after day. It's horrible. I don't even dress suggestively. I've even told him after the pasties and g-string comment, that this isn't Vegas dude.

You get fired over reporting, you'll have a great wrongfull dissmissal case.

[Merala]

I'm alone here, which sucks. It's just me and my little girl. I'm hoping by talking to the owner it will help things. If I end up losing my job over it, then so be it. I'd rather not deal with this day after day. It's horrible. I don't even dress suggestively. I've even told him after the pasties and g-string comment, that this isn't Vegas dude.

I can imagine that beside the whole conflict thing, you're very very nervous because you just started this job a week ago, and he's obviously been there long enough to be a manager. It would be way better if you had a witness for something like this since your credibility isn't as good. Either way, you're going to have to speak up or risk end up being in headlines. Decent guys who aren't crazy rapists don't pull this stuff. Granted, he might not be a crazy rapist, but he's still not a decent guy and you shouldn't trust him.

[Rucca]

You get fired over reporting, you'll have a great wrongfull dissmissal case.

Like the OP, I'm afraid that they will think I'm overreacting, or even that they feel he is more of an asset to the job than I am. It's a shitty position to be in as a female.

[Sile]

Like the OP, I'm afraid that they will think I'm overreacting, or even that they feel he is more of an asset to the job than I am. It's a shitty position to be in as a female.

Shitty for male and female, document it, even leave your phone on voice record when he's around, being there only a week still don't make them invincible.

Tell the owner directly, document when you do as well. If you lose your job, call your local labour board. I assure you they won't take sexual harrasment lightly.

[Rucca]

I can imagine that beside the whole conflict thing, you're very very nervous because you just started this job a week ago, and he's obviously been there long enough to be a manager. It would be way better if you had a witness for something like this since your credibility isn't as good. Either way, you're going to have to speak up or risk end up being in headlines. Decent guys who aren't crazy rapists don't pull this stuff. Granted, he might not be a crazy rapist, but he's still not a decent guy and you shouldn't trust him.

I'm extremely nervous because my life right now is to support my child and I can't afford to lose a job over this bullshit. One thing in my favor though is that, although he has done this behind people's backs when nobody else can see him or hear him, he did fuck up last night. He repeated the pasties and g-string comment to a new server that he just hired, like what he said was fucking funny. So there is that.

[Tgo01]

You all definitely want to do something about this as soon as possible. I used to work at a place where something like this was going on, a guy would constantly hit on all of new female hires, most of the time he got the hint fairly quickly but the ones who weren't so upfront about his unwanted attention just made things worse. One woman in particular she talked to him, she was friendly to him, she just ignored all of his advances, she asked the guy to drive her home from work one night because her car broke down. Before anyone gets the wrong idea here I'm not saying she was "asking" to be harassed, I'm taking her side here. So finally one day she had enough and she told the manager. The manager talked to the guy and told him to leave her alone. Then a few days later he came to work on his day off and started yelling and screaming at the woman saying shit like "I know you love me." The guy had to be escorted out of the building and he was fired.

Point being, don't let things escalate. The guy at my work was a creep for sure, this shit needs to be nipped in the bud and fast. I think the worse thing you can do (I don't know if either of you are doing this, just saying) is what other people have already mentioned, don't talk to this guy outside of work at all.

[Bobmuhthol]

You get fired over reporting, you'll have a great wrongfull dissmissal case.Employee at will, bro.

[Latrinsorm]

You can do it! We all support you in an anonymous, long distance sense.

[Liagala]

OP and Rucca, neither of you are doing yourselves any favors by holding back and hoping the situation magically improves. It won't. In both cases, you need to report it as soon as possible, preferably with documentation/proof like other posters have mentioned. Even if you have nothing though, going to management sooner rather than later is your best bet. Assuming your company isn't totally backward, they will immediately separate the two of you (to stop any possible harassment from continuing) and start investigating. You'd be surprised how many people admit to things during an interview, or how many random other coworkers might have seen or heard something that they didn't pay attention to as an isolated event, but suddenly becomes important in an investigation.

Rucca, your situation seems more likely go to south in a hurry, but you're still far better off doing something about it than not. Collect as much evidence as you can, go to management, and hope they're better people than this guy. If they're not, you can destroy them with the Whistleblower's Protection Act. It will be difficult in the short term (though unemployment benefits will likely get you and your family through it), but long term, you'll be FAR better off.

[Back]

I have to reply to this thread. I am seriously floored right now that I woke up this morning to see it on the boards. The timing is amazing and I feel like it's a sign for me to do the same thing. I am also going through this. I've been sick to my stomach over it all because I don't like conflict and I'm the type of person who gives people chances and the benefit of the doubt. I was recently hired a week ago as the bartender at this really nice place. The manager who hired me has since then done a lot of what you had posted above. He's called me to ask me out for drinks to discuss ideas for promoting, which I've declined. He's hugged me, poked me in the small of my back, in which I cringe, pulled on my braids...in which I told him to stop last night. Commented on my ass saying "Ooooh look at that" as he stared me down. Commented on my body numerous times...told me to come into work tomorrow for inventory wearing pasties and a g-string.

I'm so uncomfortable around him and I dread going into work. It's lead up to me having zero respect for him and now, since I deny his advances and flirting I have a "bad attitude". He tried to send me home from work last night early without collecting my tips and finishing up with my guests. I did finish work, though, but I practically left in tears. I'm going to talk to the owner when I go back to work after spring break. I'm just so nervous about it.

In this case I say quit. There are a million better places to work.

[Tgo01]

In this case I say quit. There are a million better places to work.

You serious dawg?

[Bobmuhthol]

Whistleblower Protection Act does not apply here, and neither does any other whistleblower statute. Please do not intend to use any such laws to your advantage, because it will not work. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

[Kastrel]

Why not?

[Jhynnifer]

I'm alone here, which sucks. It's just me and my little girl. I'm hoping by talking to the owner it will help things. If I end up losing my job over it, then so be it. I'd rather not deal with this day after day. It's horrible. I don't even dress suggestively. I've even told him after the pasties and g-string comment, that this isn't Vegas dude.


If you end up losing your job over it that is grounds for a lawsuit.

The email idea is an extremely good idea, otherwise this becomes nothing more than a game of he said/she said.

Also, its could very well be that you're being too casual and/or subtle when rebuffing his advances. I'm not defending the sleezeball here, but sometimes people are dense. He may think you are going along with it or possibly even flirting. A firm, "I don't like that" though simple and blunt, can be fairly effective. Let me say again "sometimes people are dense" and this is not a situation where you can settle for anything but complete clarity.

I had a situation awhile back where I was sexually harassed by my manager to the point of his locking me in the office with him one day, suffice to say "I don't like that" didn't work as well as a knee to the groin did.... but you do what you've got to do.

Regardless... when he put his hands on you, he crossed a very big line.

[msconstrew]

You get fired over reporting, you'll have a great wrongfull dissmissal case.

Wrongful termination is unlikely in this instance. At will employment is the name of the game.

[mouserat]

I agree that I need to say something. But I think it's nowhere near as black and white as you're making it seem. We don't work at the same place, but our two companies do business together. Consequently we're often together in group situations, and yes at least two of his coworkers have seen the behavior I am describing. So it's nowhere near as simple as simply going to management; there would be at least two sets of management involved.

I have serious concerns that because we're in a small professional community, word of me reporting this (inaccurate word) would get back to our peers and that it would impact my reputation. He also has a wife and family and I know I would feel terrible if they lost their breadwinner... So it's a more complex calculus, at least to me.

[Back]

You serious dawg?

Yes. It sucks. But considering Rucca's situation she should ditch that place and find a better place. If this is her first week and this shit is already happening then its not going to get any better any time soon. She'll either have to put that guy in his place big time on her level or leave that shit hole. Should not be too hard for a good bartender to find a decent bar to work in.

[Rucca]

If you end up losing your job over it that is grounds for a lawsuit.

The email idea is an extremely good idea, otherwise this becomes nothing more than a game of he said/she said.

Also, its could very well be that you're being too casual and/or subtle when rebuffing his advances. I'm not defending the sleezeball here, but sometimes people are dense. He may think you are going along with it or possibly even flirting. A firm, "I don't like that" though simple and blunt, can be fairly effective. Let me say again "sometimes people are dense" and this is not a situation where you can settle for anything but complete clarity.

I had a situation awhile back where I was sexually harassed by my manager to the point of his locking me in the office with him one day, suffice to say "I don't like that" didn't work as well as a knee to the groin did.... but you do what you've got to do.

Regardless... when he put his hands on you, he crossed a very big line.

Yes, dense. I've flat out told him I don't date so don't ask, stop commenting on my ass, and stop tugging on my braids. His reply to the latter was, "My wife loves it." (ayup, wife) Well, I don't. So stop. It quickly went south from there and my attitude all of a sudden was "bad".

[Androidpk]

That's when you knee him in the balls as hard as you can and when he drops to the ground and starts crying you tell him he has a bad attitude.

[Rucca]

That's when you knee him in the balls as hard as you can and when he drops to the ground and starts crying you tell him he has a bad attitude.

Win.

[Tisket]

Rucca...

You work in a bar and are not used to unwanted sexual advances?

Anyway, the only advice I have is don't be immature. What I mean is, don't passively accept unacceptable shit to keep a job.

[Maylan]

If either or both of you ladies are comfortable PMing me the state and/or city you live in, I'm happy to look up some local resources for you. There are nonprofit advocacy organizations out there that can help you protect yourself. Employment laws vary state-to-state and can be confusing as fuck. Some states do NOT have at-will employment.

Here's a website that offers a free advice and counseling hotline: http://www.equalrights.org/publications/kyr/shwork.asp

Again, I'm happy to research additional resources.

[Bobmuhthol]

All states are employment at will. Some states have exceptions. I doubt this falls into one of them -- certainly not implied contract, probably not public policy, and I'm not even sure there's a good faith argument (plus you have to be in a state with good faith exception).

[Tisket]

Also, if he's was putting his hands on me after I asked him not to, I'd call the police to report an assault. But that's just me.

[Rucca]

Rucca...

You work in a bar and are not used to unwanted sexual advances?

Anyway, the only advice I have is don't be immature. What I mean is, don't passively accept unacceptable shit to keep a job.

Of course, from customers in the past. That's easy to shoot down. From my manager? No. This is the first time I've dealt with this from management. I work in a bar/bistro and I choose establishments that are somewhat classy. Other than this huge loser, the place is great. The clientele, the location. The days of working in a club are over for me. Keeping a job is my main priority right now. I live in an area that isn't full of awesome places to work. I'm no longer in NYC where I have tons of choices. Also, regardless of my actual career choice of the moment, I know for a fact that this can happen in any workplace, and this guy would be doing the same shit if this was an office job.

[Sile]

Yeah we don't have employment at will in Canada, we have something similar that lasts for 30 days, some provinces are 90 days. After that an employer and employee have to give a min of 2 weeks notice to lay off, fire, etc. But the employee generally has more rights then the employer when it comes to non contract work.

[Maylan]

I stand corrected. Thanks for clarifying!

[Back]

Of course, from customers in the past. That's easy to shoot down. From my manager? No. This is the first time I've dealt with this from management. I work in a bar/bistro and I choose establishments that are somewhat classy. Other than this huge loser, the place is great. The clientele, the location. The days of working in a club are over for me. Keeping a job is my main priority right now. I live in an area that isn't full of awesome places to work. I'm no longer in NYC where I have tons of choices. Also, regardless of my actual career choice of the moment, I know for a fact that this can happen in any workplace, and this guy would be doing the same shit if this was an office job.

If the place has been around a while and it a nicer place talk the other bartenders, servers, managers about it. See what they say.

[Valthissa]

At will emplyment is not relevant in the circumstances described here.

Firing someone for reporting harassment would generate a legal case for retaliation.

The company would be more exposed for retaliation than they would be for just investigating the matter and making a determination on the harrasment charges.

I just had my annual corporate training, certificate and everything. Fortunately for me, HR hasn't been one of my departments for years, I hate that crap.

C

[Rucca]

If the place has been around a while and it a nicer place talk the other bartenders, servers, managers about it. See what they say.

Since he is the only manager and calls himself the GM, I'm going to talk to the owner when I get back. I'm going to tell him everything that I have dealt with. Regardless of the outcome, I don't think anyone should go through this for any job whatsoever. I hope the OP does the same.

[Jarvan]

At will work is great.. and sucks.

Because they can fire you for any/no reason really. Infact, they are generally better off to do so unless if they want to try to fight unemployment.

"Why were you fired Bob?" "They said I drank to much from the water cooler."

Above would be perfectly acceptable.

[Candor]

In addition to sending an email, I suggest keeping a lot of everything he does. And I mean everything - date and time every incident. Suggest making this a handwritten record so that no one else can see it until you want to show it.

You should not have to put up with this sort of behavior - it is illegal. You are *not* overreacting. This is a classic case of sexual harassment and is a good example of why we have laws against it in the first place.

Good luck to you :)

[Latrinsorm]

Whistleblower Protection Act does not apply here, and neither does any other whistleblower statute. Please do not intend to use any such laws to your advantage, because it will not work. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.I agree with this lawyer's legally binding advice.
I have serious concerns that because we're in a small professional community, word of me reporting this (inaccurate word) would get back to our peers and that it would impact my reputation. He also has a wife and family and I know I would feel terrible if they lost their breadwinner... So it's a more complex calculus, at least to me.If you had witnessed him beat someone to death, would you feel bad about reporting that to the police? Surely his family would lose their breadwinner in the same way. You may feel I am overstating the impact of sexual harassment, but I may feel you are understating it, do you know that of which I mean?

Let me say again that we support you, and let me further say that you are IN ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to blame for the consequences of HIS absolutely wrong behavior. Finally, let me say (if you would) that if you do not bring this to the proper authorities by tomorrow, RojoDisco is bound to see this thread and execute him via AR-15 anyway.

[AestheticDeath]

You aren't responsible for his actions, but you are responsible for allowing it to continue. Whether you hate it or not is of no consequence if you don't do something to end it.

So do something. Go buy a small voice recorder for $20-50, something quality. Phone recorders suck ass in my experience and wouldn't be as easy to hide if you have to take a call etc.
If the place you work at has cameras, make sure to be in the line of sight when he is harassing you. (Also make sure you know if they are active and not just for show, try and figure out how well they record and in what medium, how long they keep them etc.) Make a friend or two if you haven't already, and make sure they back you up. Have THEM tell him to stop if they see him touching you, or speaking inappropriately. Him knowing you aren't the only one with knowledge of the unwanted advances should help some. Also, make sure you carry pepper spray or a stun gun, whatever is legally allowed where you are. Just in case it goes further than it has.

Tell his wife...?

[Ker_Thwap]

It's entirely likely he's been reported before, and the manager will be happy to fire his ass. If you've told the guy in no uncertain terms it's unwanted, then crush him with the law.

[AnticorRifling]

He also has a wife and family and I know I would feel terrible if they lost their breadwinner...That is something he needs to consider with every one of his actions, it is not something you should care about at all.

[AnticorRifling]

I am a regular poster on here, but I wanted to be anon for this question. I've been having some issues with a guy I work with, but I am worried that if I report it to his boss I will be perceived as one of those overreacting females. So, since you guys might actually represent a cross section of humanity, I want your opinions.

Here's a summary:


unwanted hugging everytime I see him
grabbed my ass
has talked about his erection to me during phone conversations
has made comments to me that he'd like to fuck me
touches me when we see each other (on the hand, arm and knee)
comments on my clothes and how i look in them
puts his arm around me and pulls me close, even after i step away


This stuff makes me uncomfortable, and I've said as much to him. He hasn't stopped.

So, what up, PC? Am I overreacting? Or is this worth saying something about?

PS - Anticor, don't out me!

Overracting female would be if he said hello or you look nice today and you ran and yelled sexual harrasment. Him talking about his boner to you and touching you...fuck this dude (and not in the good moist sloppy way).

[Kastrel]

Thats a pretty good point. While I don't care for blatant disregard for people you don't know, why is it YOUR obligation to allow this situation to continue for the sake of HIS wife and kids? Maybe he is simply uninformed and ignorant, but otherwise, he is blatantly making a decision which could endanger his job for . . . what . . . a quick chance to feel you up and maybe some erotically charged (yet one-sided) conversation? Keep that in mind, that he is putting his job, his reputation, and the financial security of his family, and hell, the romantic stability of his marriage, on the line for a cheap sexual thrill from someone who is an unwilling participant. Thats like being a multi-millionaire who steals candy at the local corner store, so much at stake and for so little gain. Does such blatant disregard for his OWN family warrant you rewarding him with more consideration than he himself has shown? I'm sure he would not return the favor.

[SHAFT]

Tell his wife...?

That's bad advice.

[Tgo01]

Yeah don't tell the wife, she'll just view you as the tramp who is tearing her family apart. If he gets fired from his job he'll look like the ass who couldn't keep it in his pants.

[DCSL]

Yeeeaaaah. Let's not approach the wife about it. Even though the situation is in no way similar, the Nachos's wife drama immediately popped into my head.

[AnticorRifling]

It made for good posts to read though....let's not be too hasty here.

[Kastrel]

Yeeeaaaah. Let's not approach the wife about it. Even though the situation is in no way similar, the Nachos's wife drama immediately popped into my head.

What was this?

[AestheticDeath]

I don't see the problem with following him home, walking in the front door right after him before he locks it and saying " Threeway bitches!" See how the wife takes it.

[DCSL]

What was this?

Hookers and blow and no one suspected a thing. We loved him and he is lost to us forever.

[Latrinsorm]

Overracting female would be if he said hello or you look nice today and you ran and yelled sexual harrasment. Him talking about his boner to you and touching you...fuck this dude (and not in the good moist sloppy way).So... anal? That is not appropriate, Signor Reefleeng. I am reporting you to... AnticorRifling?!? Behold the corruption inherent in the system!

[AestheticDeath]

4812Thread: Sexual harassment?

No, she is not responsible for allowing it to continue. The onus is entirely on the person committing the harassment.


Uh, if she don't do shit about it, she is part of the problem at that point. You don't like it, do something about it.

[AnticorRifling]

Uh, if she don't do shit about it, she is part of the problem at that point. You don't like it, do something about it.

You're so retarded it hurts.

[Tisket]

Thread: Sexual harassment? (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?80249-Sexual-harassment&p=1520269#post1520269)
Come on. It's not acceptable in any workplace, even a strip club.

I don't normally respond to neg rep but this is moronic. I said exactly that in the very post you repped. Fuckwit.

[Latrinsorm]

Consider the rep in an alternate light...

"Come on. 2x. assorted gibberish"

Much better, no?

[Drew]

So do something. Go buy a small voice recorder for $20-50, something quality.

This is potentially very bad advice. In some states it is not legal to record a conversation without the consent of the other party.

[Tisket]

Consider the rep in an alternate light...

"Come on. 2x. assorted gibberish"

Much better, no?

Upgrade the repper from a fuckwit to a halfwit? Let's not be hasty here.

[Back]

This is potentially very bad advice. In some states it is not legal to record a conversation without the consent of the other party.

Actually, its bad advice for another reason. Dashboard cam that shit!

[AestheticDeath]

You're so retarded it hurts.
Thanks fatty. But go re-read the original post. After all that bullshit she has gone through all she has done is tell him she doesn't like it? For fucks sake, go to the higher ups, go to the cops whatever it takes for the situation at hand. That guy sees her as the pushover she is. He can obviously do whatever he wants, and get away with it. Why should he change his ways?

For OP, how long exactly has this been going on? One week, month, year?

If he says something to you, yell something back loud enough for others to know there is a problem.
If he touches you, slap the shit out of him, or kick him in the balls.
He comes in for a hug, put your hand in his face and keep him at arms length. Be rude, excessively rude until he gets the point.

If you don't take up for yourself properly, he will keep on doing what he wants. If he escalates, you escalate, otherwise your just putting up with it for no reason, and allowing it to happen. Which means to me, you are part of the problem.

I'm not saying if your hot, it is your fault for drawing unwanted attention. I'm not saying if you get raped it's your fault. I am saying if it happens once, and you don't take the proper measures to prevent it happening again, THAT is your fault. YOU have to put a stop to it, however you can. ASAP.

If you don't take the advice people have offered you, and just keep on the way it has been. He may escalate to rape. What then? You still going to ask what you should do? Do something before it gets that far.

No different from a wife and an abusive husband. If you get hit, you leave. You don't tell yourself, he didn't mean it, or he was drunk, or he was under too much pressure. You just fucking leave.

[SHAFT]

Yeeeaaaah. Let's not approach the wife about it. Even though the situation is in no way similar, the Nachos's wife drama immediately popped into my head.

Yeah but that was priceless. The whole thing was a train wreck I couldn't take my eyes away from. And it was glorious.

[Latrinsorm]

Which means to me, you are part of the problem.So to be clear, you are agreeing with Anticor of the Rifled (presumably) Barrel?

[Delias]

So to be clear, you are agreeing with Anticor of the Rifled (presumably) Barrel?

I never considered it, but perhaps his "barrel" is rifled, anticor.

[Candor]

Upgrade the repper from a fuckwit to a halfwit? Let's not be hasty here.

Yeah. Us halfwits don't deserve that sort of insult.

[Ker_Thwap]

Oh, and don't worry about the person getting fired. If it's their first reported offense, then they'll likely get some lame warning, and you'll hear nothing about it. All you should notice is the change in behavior.

[AestheticDeath]

4814
Thread: Sexual harassment? (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?80249-Sexual-harassment&p=1520497#post1520497)

Fatty? Hello Pot, this is Kettle. You're black.
I wear pants with a 30-32 inch waist, try again.

[Tgo01]

Let's get some dinosaur perspective on this whole subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAC3C0Wkqiw

[diethx]

I wear pants with a 30-32 inch waist, try again.

You should post in the outfit thread.

[AestheticDeath]

You should post in the outfit thread.

I didn't say my pants were worth looking at. I am 99% jeans and t-shirt. My pics would be as worthless as Bobs.

[diethx]

I didn't say you should post there so we could be wowed by your outfit.

I just think that if you want to make fun of other people's bodies, you shouldn't be so shy about posting your own, and so we can say what we want.

[AestheticDeath]

Ya'll already say what ya want whether it's true or not. I don't need to post pics to get my share of insults.

[Kastrel]

Let's get some dinosaur perspective on this whole subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAC3C0Wkqiw

Oh my god . . . I just realized that Fran is voiced by Lucille Bluth. I think part of my soul just died.

[AestheticDeath]

5k points to go. Keep em coming!


how's this? bout 2k worth

[diethx]

No, because I'm a coward.

Ok.

[AestheticDeath]

Thanks for proving my point.

[diethx]

I didn't insult your physique. I merely pointed out the fact that you are a coward.

[Delias]

I didn't insult your physique. I merely pointed out the fact that you are a coward.

He'll never make it into Valhalla at this rate.

[TheEschaton]

These are fairly standard sexual harassment complaints, imo. Report them, posthaste. Documentation is good, like everyone said.

[AestheticDeath]

Woosh, yourself. You missed something there.

[Tgo01]

Woosh, yourself. You missed something there.

???

[AestheticDeath]

???

That would be between the rep and comments from Diethx.

[msconstrew]

Thanks fatty. But go re-read the original post. After all that bullshit she has gone through all she has done is tell him she doesn't like it? For fucks sake, go to the higher ups, go to the cops whatever it takes for the situation at hand. That guy sees her as the pushover she is. He can obviously do whatever he wants, and get away with it. Why should he change his ways?

For OP, how long exactly has this been going on? One week, month, year?

If he says something to you, yell something back loud enough for others to know there is a problem.
If he touches you, slap the shit out of him, or kick him in the balls.
He comes in for a hug, put your hand in his face and keep him at arms length. Be rude, excessively rude until he gets the point.

If you don't take up for yourself properly, he will keep on doing what he wants. If he escalates, you escalate, otherwise your just putting up with it for no reason, and allowing it to happen. Which means to me, you are part of the problem.

I'm not saying if your hot, it is your fault for drawing unwanted attention. I'm not saying if you get raped it's your fault. I am saying if it happens once, and you don't take the proper measures to prevent it happening again, THAT is your fault. YOU have to put a stop to it, however you can. ASAP.

If you don't take the advice people have offered you, and just keep on the way it has been. He may escalate to rape. What then? You still going to ask what you should do? Do something before it gets that far.

No different from a wife and an abusive husband. If you get hit, you leave. You don't tell yourself, he didn't mean it, or he was drunk, or he was under too much pressure. You just fucking leave.

Blame the victim much, dumb fuck?

[DCSL]

There's a thread specifically FOR responding to rep comments. Just a helpful FYI.

[AestheticDeath]

It's also pointless. I'll respond here for the cowardly dumb fucks who can't say their piece in the open.

[Delias]

It's also pointless. I'll respond here for the cowardly dumb fucks who can't say their piece in the open.

You're fucktarded, boy. There, I said my piece in the open.

[SHAFT]

I'm having de ja vu. I've seen this before somewhere....

[AestheticDeath]

You're fucktarded, boy. There, I said my piece in the open.

Aren't you the one getting a divorce? Who's fucktarded now? What'd you do that she doesn't want you anymore?

[Delias]

Aren't you the one getting a divorce? Who's fucktarded now? What'd you do that she doesn't want you anymore?

Aged, probably. She was 18 and I was 20 when we got married so... yeah, I'm going with aged.

[Tisket]

It's also pointless. I'll respond here for the cowardly dumb fucks who can't say their piece in the open.

Maybe now is a good time to suggest that perhaps you need to reflect on the reasons you stopped posting here for so long.

[Tisket]

There's a thread specifically FOR responding to rep comments. Just a helpful FYI.

Some of us are lazy. Stop trying to motivate me!

[diethx]

Maybe now is a good time to suggest that perhaps you need to reflect on the reasons you stopped posting here for so long.

And go back to it (it being not posting).

[DCSL]

Some of us are lazy. Stop trying to motivate me!

I AM NOT SECRETLY A MAN.

[RichardCranium]

Aged, probably. She was 18 and I was 20 when we got married so... yeah, I'm going with aged.

Put in a good word for me.

[Delias]

Put in a good word for me.

Make it worth my while.

[SHAFT]

Maybe now is a good time to suggest that perhaps you need to reflect on the reasons you stopped posting here for so long.

Forgive me tisket, but I jumped your shit for talking shit to AD when he came back. You were right, I was wrong. Forgive me.

[RichardCranium]

Make it worth my while.

Not again.

[Tisket]

The world is ending?

[Tisket]

I'm running out of people to hate and it's fucking annoying me.

[RichardCranium]

The world is ending?

Shouldn't we be naked? Together.

/sexharrass

[Delias]

I'm running out of people to hate and it's fucking annoying me.

Don't worry, I am sure I will squander my brief moment of Tisket-goodwill any time now.

[Tisket]

lol weirdos

[Tisket]

Thread: Sexual harassment? (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?80249-Sexual-harassment&p=1520568#post1520568)
All that effort for nothing. I thought for sure one of the -3000 was from you.

I was curious so I checked. Of the last fifty reps I've left only like four were red. And I signed those.

edit: for clarification: I boosted AD back to green bars just to fuck with him and the above rep comment was regarding that.

double edit: and I just like to fuck with Dex so I'm posting it here instead of the rep comment thread.

[Latrinsorm]

This may be the least appropriate contribution to a thread ever but...
and I just like to fuck with Dex...go on...

[subzero]

Let's get some dinosaur perspective on this whole subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAC3C0Wkqiw

Hah, I forgot about that show.

Not the momma!

[Jarvan]

Hah, I forgot about that show.

Not the momma!

"I'm the baby, got to love me!"

[Gelston]

The series finale for that show was crap! Everyone dies due to climate change or some crap.

[Jarvan]

The series finale for that show was crap! Everyone dies due to climate change or some crap.

Well, not as bad as Quantum Leap's series ender.

But yeah.. kinda funny, Technically climate change did kill the dinos.. sorta. If you consider a large rock slamming into earth and altering the climate, change, then yes it did.

Anyway.. back to the OP.. I hope you cut his balls off.. figuratively speaking.

[AnticorRifling]

Thanks fatty. But go re-read the original post. After all that bullshit she has gone through all she has done is tell him she doesn't like it? For fucks sake, go to the higher ups, go to the cops whatever it takes for the situation at hand. That guy sees her as the pushover she is. He can obviously do whatever he wants, and get away with it. Why should he change his ways?

For OP, how long exactly has this been going on? One week, month, year?

If he says something to you, yell something back loud enough for others to know there is a problem.
If he touches you, slap the shit out of him, or kick him in the balls.
He comes in for a hug, put your hand in his face and keep him at arms length. Be rude, excessively rude until he gets the point.

If you don't take up for yourself properly, he will keep on doing what he wants. If he escalates, you escalate, otherwise your just putting up with it for no reason, and allowing it to happen. Which means to me, you are part of the problem.

I'm not saying if your hot, it is your fault for drawing unwanted attention. I'm not saying if you get raped it's your fault. I am saying if it happens once, and you don't take the proper measures to prevent it happening again, THAT is your fault. YOU have to put a stop to it, however you can. ASAP.

If you don't take the advice people have offered you, and just keep on the way it has been. He may escalate to rape. What then? You still going to ask what you should do? Do something before it gets that far.

No different from a wife and an abusive husband. If you get hit, you leave. You don't tell yourself, he didn't mean it, or he was drunk, or he was under too much pressure. You just fucking leave.

Again you're so fucking retarded it hurts. I could explain why but chances are you wouldn't understand even the simplest of words.

[AnticorRifling]

Aren't you the one getting a divorce? Who's fucktarded now? What'd you do that she doesn't want you anymore?

Wow first your retarded comments on the actual subject at hand and then the calling me a fatty coupled with this gem. You're an angry elf. Who hurt you so bad?

[Methais]

I am a regular poster on here, but I wanted to be anon for this question. I've been having some issues with a guy I work with, but I am worried that if I report it to his boss I will be perceived as one of those overreacting females. So, since you guys might actually represent a cross section of humanity, I want your opinions.

Here's a summary:


unwanted hugging everytime I see him
grabbed my ass
has talked about his erection to me during phone conversations
has made comments to me that he'd like to fuck me
touches me when we see each other (on the hand, arm and knee)
comments on my clothes and how i look in them
puts his arm around me and pulls me close, even after i step away


This stuff makes me uncomfortable, and I've said as much to him. He hasn't stopped.

So, what up, PC? Am I overreacting? Or is this worth saying something about?

PS - Anticor, don't out me!

Anticor, just show us where Kranar touched you and we'll take it from there.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/3695/465493-teddy_bear.jpg

[Methais]

In this case I say quit. There are a million better places to work.

Backlash is all about having a spine and standing up for yourself.

[subzero]

Hah, I forgot about that show.

Not the momma!

So... I got this rep... "No it wasn't, fucktard." Does not compute.

[AnticorRifling]

Anticor, just show us where Kranar touched you and we'll take it from there.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/3695/465493-teddy_bear.jpg

Bear is facing the wrong way.

[AestheticDeath]

Wow first your retarded comments on the actual subject at hand and then the calling me a fatty coupled with this gem. You're an angry elf. Who hurt you so bad?

You call me names, I call you names. And you are surprised? By the way, I am behind on the name calling so - fatty, fatty, fatty, fatty. I'm too lazy to put it in your rep like you do for me. Perhaps you could expound upon your opinion since it so differs from my own. I'll be sure and tell you I don't understand, or don't agree instead of calling you a retard for your opinion. Quite funny though, how you say I am stupid because all I can do is call you names, and guess what, that is all you do - call me names.


Any update from the mouse? Did you report the actions? Did this thread do anything for you?

[Gweneivia]

So what is the update on this anyway? I noticed that not a single person voted for "ignore it," therefore action should have been taken by now. The PC has spoken!

[Rucca]

I'll share what is going on with me so far. I was told to come in for a meeting with the owner and the accountant, the one I told everything to in the first place, on Monday. The "manager" will not be there, so I still feel nervous, but not as much. It will be nice to be able to let the owner know all I've gone through without that guy staring me down. I have no idea what will happen yet, but I'm not holding my breath on keeping this job.
Prior to this, the "manager" had the accountant mail my paycheck to me, which made me feel like he wasn't expecting me back next week...basically his way of letting me go. This was again, before the owner knew of my problems with this manager. Since the accountant has now informed the owner of my problems with him, the owner was supposed to speak with him as well, and I learned that he had because I received this text today from the harassing manager. I'm going to post it word for word and how it was written out to me. Unbelievable.

i want to let you know that i apologize for any misunderstanding .i did not intend to offend you in any way please let me know your availability isfor the next week it seems like we are getting busier and everyone is looking forward to you coming back,thanks "manager"

[AestheticDeath]

Glad you said something, hope everything goes well, they believe you over him and you don't get fired or anything. Is the owner one of those absentee types that barely checks in? And have you met him before, or just hired straight from the manager you are having trouble with?

edit reread your first post, guess the manager hired you and ya had no contact with the owner..

[Drew]

I'll share what is going on with me so far. I was told to come in for a meeting with the owner and the accountant, the one I told everything to in the first place, on Monday. The "manager" will not be there, so I still feel nervous, but not as much. It will be nice to be able to let the owner know all I've gone through without that guy staring me down. I have no idea what will happen yet, but I'm not holding my breath on keeping this job.
Prior to this, the "manager" had the accountant mail my paycheck to me, which made me feel like he wasn't expecting me back next week...basically his way of letting me go. This was again, before the owner knew of my problems with this manager. Since the accountant has now informed the owner of my problems with him, the owner was supposed to speak with him as well, and I learned that he had because I received this text today from the harassing manager. I'm going to post it word for word and how it was written out to me. Unbelievable.

i want to let you know that i apologize for any misunderstanding .i did not intend to offend you in any way please let me know your availability isfor the next week it seems like we are getting busier and everyone is looking forward to you coming back,thanks "manager"


Well that's probably the best result you can hope for if he has no documented history with this. He apologizes, your job is safe, he won't harass you again unless he's really dumb.

[diethx]

Sounds like they're afraid of getting sued. Don't puss out. Stand up for yourself.

[Rucca]

Sounds like they're afraid of getting sued. Don't puss out. Stand up for yourself.

This exactly. I'm definitely not going to puss out. I really need them to know what a liability this man is and what he's all about. I'm torn though between staying there or finding another place to work. Part of me doesn't want to leave because I didn't do anything wrong in the first place to lose my job, but the other part of me doesn't want to be in the same room as this guy ever again.

[Merala]

I would say let it go unless it continues to be a problem. Jobs are tough, it's hopefully in the past. If it's not in the past, then go to the Board of Labor Relations and find a lawyer to sue them.

[diethx]

This exactly. I'm definitely not going to puss out. I really need them to know what a liability this man is and what he's all about. I'm torn though between staying there or finding another place to work. Part of me doesn't want to leave because I didn't do anything wrong in the first place to lose my job, but the other part of me doesn't want to be in the same room as this guy ever again.

Stay there while things are "better" and look for something else at the same time. As soon as you get something better, you can feel great about getting out of that situation (which I'm sure will still be awkward even if he's not leering and groping).

[Rucca]

Stay there while things are "better" and look for something else at the same time. As soon as you get something better, you can feel great about getting out of that situation (which I'm sure will still be awkward even if he's not leering and groping).

Yeah. This is what I need to do, as much as I don't really want to be there anymore as long as that guy is. You stated it perfectly when you said it will still be awkward. It will be. I work side by side with this guy because he does nothing but stand around the pub staring off into space, if not staring at me. I'm the only bartender normally on my shifts, and I know he will be seething inside. Being alone with him disgusts me now to no end, and that is usually how it is, him and I at the pub and a couple servers on the floor. I definitely will be job hunting next week, and I cannot wait to finish school so I can hopefully move on to bigger and better things.

[4a6c1]

I voted for get fucked because I wanted to see what Drew would say. Just kidding, I don't think about that guy, that would be weird.

I don't know. I'm so used to working with trash mouthed idiots and I am with them all the time. All of them already know the names of all the men I've fucked and my favorite position and how much I love my she-wee. I think I filter things to the point where someone could be grabbing my ass and I wouldn't care. Actually I think that's definitely happened. :[ I'm probably that asshole who frowns upon women at work who get my guys in trouble but I wouldn't know because there are no other women who can do my job. Gogo internalized misogyny!

Call the BBB?

[Rucca]

This is not a fun and games, hardee har har atmosphere. It's not me and a bunch of guys lawling, shooting the shit and grabbing our crotches. In my situation, it's me...trying to make a fucking living and a total pervert leering and wetting his tighty whiteys at my expense. It's not fun at all.

[diethx]

I voted for get fucked because I wanted to see what Drew would say. Just kidding, I don't think about that guy, that would be weird.

I don't know. I'm so used to working with trash mouthed idiots and I am with them all the time. All of them already know the names of all the men I've fucked and my favorite position and how much I love my she-wee. I think I filter things to the point where someone could be grabbing my ass and I wouldn't care. Actually I think that's definitely happened. :[ I'm probably that asshole who frowns upon women at work who get my guys in trouble but I wouldn't know because there are no other women who can do my job. Gogo internalized misogyny!

Call the BBB?

Way to belittle someone's experience with real sexual harassment. I'm sure your anecdotes make them feel fantastic.

[Androidpk]

Rojo, I didn't know you were an adult film star.

[4a6c1]

This is not a fun and games, hardee har har atmosphere. It's not me and a bunch of guys lawling, shooting the shit and grabbing our crotches. In my situation, it's me...trying to make a fucking living and a total pervert leering and wetting his tighty whiteys at my expense. It's not fun at all.

That sucks!


Way to belittle someone's experience with real sexual harassment. I'm sure your anecdotes make them feel fantastic.

I wasn't the first person to joke around in this thread. BREATH OUT BREATH IN you uptight cunt.

[diethx]

Just calling you out on your hypocrisy, you phony self-proclaimed champion of women.

(Also, jokes are funny. You aren't.)

[4a6c1]

This is fun. I know you are but what am I!!!!

(I called myself out you fucking retard.)

[Warriorbird]

Yeah. This is what I need to do, as much as I don't really want to be there anymore as long as that guy is. You stated it perfectly when you said it will still be awkward. It will be. I work side by side with this guy because he does nothing but stand around the pub staring off into space, if not staring at me. I'm the only bartender normally on my shifts, and I know he will be seething inside. Being alone with him disgusts me now to no end, and that is usually how it is, him and I at the pub and a couple servers on the floor. I definitely will be job hunting next week, and I cannot wait to finish school so I can hopefully move on to bigger and better things.

I'm glad you had the guts to stand up and do the right thing Sky.

[Rucca]

I'm glad you had the guts to stand up and do the right thing Sky.

Thank you. :)

I'm always trying to do the right thing, even though sometimes it doesn't work out the way I'd like it to.

[Tisket]

All of them already know the names of all the men I've fucked and my favorite position and how much I love my she-wee. I think I filter things to the point where someone could be grabbing my ass and I wouldn't care. Actually I think that's definitely happened. :[ I'm probably that asshole who frowns upon women at work who get my guys in trouble but I wouldn't know because there are no other women who can do my job. Gogo internalized misogyny!

You just described a white trash 'ho.

Classy.

[4a6c1]

I like that you remembered that one from so long ago... it makes me feel special.

You gals are so good at tellin it like it is on the internets! Is there a lifetime achievement award for that?

[Methais]

I like that you remembered that one from so long ago... it makes me feel special.

You gals are so good at tellin it like it is on the internets! Is there a lifetime achievement award for that?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/shiftingcareers/posts/ColbertWebby533.jpg

[4a6c1]

Methias is definitely pro-rape.

[subzero]

Methias is definitely pro-rape.

So are a lot of women. They want it, but they're just too afraid to tell us.

[Methais]

Obama is a rapist. I am anti-Obama. Therefore I am anti-rape.

http://www.protias.com/Pictures/Rape/you%20gonna%20get%20raped%20obama-hilary.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3047/2724214554_fc1c89ce44.jpg

[Rallorick]

Sort of surprised at some of the responses... truth be told, in neither of the cases, do you need to say shit to the person prior to reporting. That's sort of a general rule for milder behaivor. That doesn't apply here. Both are shocking for acceptable workplace environments. Odds are, you aren't the first case. Report it. Move on. You wont get fired... that's ridiculous. If you do - yeah sue. Employee at will doest even come close to applying here. If they fire you, they deserve it. You would need proof of the aggression in this case.

Beyond that you have an obligation to report it... or else you're basically sssetting up the next person for the same situation. If your blowing it out of proportion, or you play along - thats on you. If you haven't trust yourself that you're doing the right thing.

[Rallorick]

Yeah... I didn't get past page six.... my bad

[radamanthys]

Hit him in the shin with a stapler, then shit on his crotch.

Either that or give him an extremely firm "gtfo" and if he doesn't listen, then shit on his crotch.

[diethx]

That's a dangerous idea. Putting your anus that close to his crotch? I'm going with no.

[thefarmer]

I'm definitely not going to puss out.

I left it in rep, but I'll say it here too.

+1 for having the balls in a situation where it would be understandable, and common, for you to just take/give into the harrassment, or quit and leave the taintstain dude to continue his Jeriling ways.

[radamanthys]

That's a dangerous idea. Putting your anus that close to his crotch? I'm going with no.

That's true. Take a shit in a bucket, then mix it with milk and water, then let it soak for a while. Stir. Put in super soaker. Soak liberally upon subsequent offense.

[Lord Orbstar]

This was an obvious reportable case. I am curious what the outcome was? I know what is *should* have been, so I hope your company did it right. Otherwise, enjoy the lawsuit.

[subzero]

That's true. Take a shit in a bucket, then mix it with milk and water, then let it soak for a while. Stir. Put in super soaker. Soak liberally upon subsequent offense.

That's an awful lot of nasty work when you could just save some time and order it!

http://www.liquidass.com/

[Smythe]

A bit late ta party, an' already been said, but bears repeatin':

You ain't gotta say shit ta da offender in this case. Jes' report ta management, any management don' matter. Fer OP post, don' matter if'n it's two companies involved. State clearly ta management ya want ta be removed from da environement an' why. If management asses up an' decides 'remove' means terminate, it's on 'em, not you. Seek EEOC counsel.

Document the report. Send it formal like.

An' if ya get terminated anytime before performance appraisal, or without any substantive reason, seek EEOC counsel.

This kinda bullshit's been aroun' too long. Ain' worth yer time to have to get upset about.

If management ignores it, seek EEOC counsel. If ya get terminated without any reasonable explanation after reporting, same. If ya start getting pressured at work, beyond what anyone else does, same.

http://www.eeoc.gov/

Yep, ya might hafta look for new work. But after's all said 'n done, live yer life, an' not the life someone's imposin' on ya. An' EEOC'll make damn sure da ya get covered an' cleared.

I hate dis shit.

- Smythe

[RSR]

lol. If you take his advice, please for the love of god use the same godawful accent when you do and record it for posterity.

[Methais]

A bit late ta party, an' already been said, but bears repeatin':

You ain't gotta say shit ta da offender in this case. Jes' report ta management, any management don' matter. Fer OP post, don' matter if'n it's two companies involved. State clearly ta management ya want ta be removed from da environement an' why. If management asses up an' decides 'remove' means terminate, it's on 'em, not you. Seek EEOC counsel.

Document the report. Send it formal like.

An' if ya get terminated anytime before performance appraisal, or without any substantive reason, seek EEOC counsel.

This kinda bullshit's been aroun' too long. Ain' worth yer time to have to get upset about.

If management ignores it, seek EEOC counsel. If ya get terminated without any reasonable explanation after reporting, same. If ya start getting pressured at work, beyond what anyone else does, same.

http://www.eeoc.gov/

Yep, ya might hafta look for new work. But after's all said 'n done, live yer life, an' not the life someone's imposin' on ya. An' EEOC'll make damn sure da ya get covered an' cleared.

I hate dis shit.

- Smythe

I hope you RP like this at work irl.

[FlayedAngel]

i want to let you know that i apologize for any misunderstanding .i did not intend to offend you in any way please let me know your availability isfor the next week it seems like we are getting busier and everyone is looking forward to you coming back,thanks "manager"

Yikes. After reading that, I say kill the motherfucker. Or beat him severely about the head and shoulders with a big black dildo -- at work -- in homage to George Carlin.

Seriously though... this guy sounds like a real creepster. Good on you for sticking up for yourself in a bad situation.

[Tisket]

Yikes. After reading that, I say kill the motherfucker. Or beat him severely about the head and shoulders with a big black dildo

This technique should also be applied to Smythe. Make sure and scream "stop typing in an accent, motherfucker!" during the beating.

[Showal]

Didn't someone figure out why Smythe types like that? Isn't he taking out some aggression on us by showing it doesn't matter what he types like? He certainly has shown us that he can keep up the image of being retarded really well ... almost too well.

[Tisket]

Didn't someone figure out why Smythe types like that? Isn't he taking out some aggression on us by showing it doesn't matter what he types like?

I think everyone came to that conclusion already. I doubt anyone knows anything else about his views though. Who wants to read a whole post of that shit.

[Overlord]

I think everyone came to that conclusion already. I doubt anyone knows anything else about his views though. Who wants to read a whole post of that shit.

Those desperate for aneursim inducing literature lol Think i've always just skipped over tbh

[Showal]

I think everyone came to that conclusion already. I doubt anyone knows anything else about his views though. Who wants to read a whole post of that shit.

Didn't he even once say he pulled down his pants, put his penis in his own bottom and tinkled? I can't understand half the shit he says.

[Overlord]

Didn't he even once say he pulled down his pants, put his penis in his own bottom and tinkled? I can't understand half the shit he says.

More like you understand what he says, and can't fathom why

[Czeska]

Documentation is always the key. Journal the times, with approximate dates if you don't recall, that you've let him know you don't like it. Also any times/dates of the actions/comments (Bob had a hardon on the phone at 3:13 pm on January 4, 2013 by his own declaration). The email's great, too. Anyone who sees you as overreacting is an asshat based on what you put here. It's not like he said, "Your eyes are such a pretty shade of green." and you asked for him to be fired.