Rasko, (who isn't Sean, we all know) gets a new car...

[StrayRogue]

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Rasko echo in your mind:
"god damn, my fucking rx-7 is so fun to drive"

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Chadj echo in your mind:
"rx-7? ROFL"

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Chadj echo in your mind:
"OMG I HAVE AN RX-7!"


You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Rasko echo in your mind:
"Uh, rx-7s are badass cars, you're a fucking idiot"

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Aone echo in your mind:
"You must have a mighty small pp to need to compensate so much."

[Drew]

Well it's obvious that he's just bragging to sound cool, but RX7's are awesome cars.

[StrayRogue]

Considering all the "I'm not Sean" BS, I don't believe it for a second.

[HarmNone]

Hell, the guy lies so much you can't believe anything he says!:moon:

HarmNone figures he probably drives a moped

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Drew
Well it's obvious that he's just bragging to sound cool, but RX7's are awesome cars.

I'm sorry, but even the new RX-7 (or 8) are not awesome.

It's a second generation rotary engine. It's not that fast, it's not that powerful and there's little to nothing, beside ditching the engine and trans, you can do to make it compete with a standard turbo charged 4 cylinder.

For the base sticker of 24 grand, I can build a car that will scare the hell out of any Porsche owner.

And if Super Sean spent his hard earned Appleby's tip money on an RX-7, that just proves how big of an idiot he is. Since we know he doesn't have more than a couple of 10 spots to rub together in any given week, we can chalk it up to pure BS.

[Caiylania]

My Passat > that car

[Drew]

Anyone could build a nice crate car for the price, but other than their highly combustible engines RX-7's were quite powerful and a real joy to drive. It's easy to make a car that goes fast, hard to make one that is well balanced.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Caiylania
My Passat > that car

With some investment in engine enhancements, it would eat it alive.

The gaga over the new RX line baffles me, get a frickin Nissan 350Z for another grand and then I'll be impressed, not only with the choice in cars but the power of reasoning.

287 HP Nissan that can be tricked into 395 hp (safely) for an additional 3 grand, or an iffy 197 -237 HP Mazda rotary that you can bump (unsafely) to 270 hp for 15 grand. Durrrr....

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Drew
Anyone could build a nice crate car for the price, but other than their highly combustible engines RX-7's were quite powerful and a real joy to drive. It's easy to make a car that goes fast, hard to make one that is well balanced.

No, it's not well balanced, nor is it remotely powerful. Most of the dyno'd reports I've seen list the RX-7 and 8 hitting around 167 hp at redline. Additionally the suspension and handling doesn't hold a candle to any other car in the same class, let alone the domestic supercharged GM models.

And who said anything about a crate car? I'm talking talking a beat up peice of shit (anything) and making a machine to freak the crap out of mid ranged exotic owners.

Hell, I give Mustang Salene owners nothing but shame as it is in my 4 door lumina.

[Drew]

RX8 != RX7

I wanna know what crack the dyno owner was smoking when he ran a 167 HP RX7? Maybe one of the non-turbo kind but that's definately not what I was talking about. I don't really like the new RX-8, but it's not a sports car anyway, it's more of a sports coupe. The old RX-7 was quite a machine though.

[Tsa`ah]

The new RX series.

Any forced induction on a rotary is only some-what safe for the engine for the first 6 pounds of boost. After that, due to how rich the fuel mixture has to be to combat ping/detonation, no intercooler in the world could keep the engine out of overhaul statues for more than 5,000 miles.

Rotary, good idea, very very poor design.

And they dyno reports are multiple, do a search. These are for the second gens, in my opinion, the first gen is probably the better engine.

But we are off topic. Sean is an idiotic liar who probably would spend his last dime on a RX-7 when there are better looking, better performing cars to be had in the same price range.

[Edited on 8-7-2004 by Tsa`ah]

[StrayRogue]

To add. Ericos, Chadj, and Bob just owned Dwai and Rasko multiple times. Suffice to say, Rasko hasn't been boasting for some time.

[Tsa`ah]

I hate to do it. I really loathe to do it.

Bob has been added to today's hero list.

[Trinitis]

I'm more then likely take some heat for this but...


I really did not give the new beetles much thought untill my friend came back from the Air Force.

He has a turbo beetle that he's done some work on, and honestly those little things have got some balls when you put a little wrench time in. Atop of that, they are lighter then most other stock cars you see on the road.

Its rather fun to ride in his bug. Even better when you pass a bus load of kids and watch them all start beating the fuck out of eachother.

[Souzy]

My bro has an RX-7 with turbo boost, it's fun to drive. But, with all that money he claims to have, I'd expect him to drive an AMG or something, or ATLEAST an RX-8.

[Drew2]

When I get rich, Tsa'ah is building my car.

[GSTamral]

The RX-8 is being marketed as a sports car, even though Tsa'ah is correct in that single rotary designs were not meant to be sporty. They were meant to be kept as is, and last for an awful long time.

That being said, people who pour money into their cars souping them up should know that in addition to wasting a lot of money that will never pay itself back even if the car is resold immediately, are also reducing the lifespan of the car itself. When you increase air pressure, even slightly over the amount that has been properly rated for any cylinder, you reduce the number of cycles it can handle over a lifetime.

Your average car engine piston system is not meant to handle anything more than 20-35% beyond what the base is. Raising it beyond that is silly unless you actually plan on making money racing. You end up reducing the life of just about every moving part in the engine.

[Tsa`ah]

This is why you use a forged crank and pistons.

Additionally, keep your foot out of it during normal driving and change your fluids religiously.

Reduction in component life span only occurs under harsh conditions.

85 grand now on my L67, still going strong.
Although he has it in storage, my cousin's 81 Z has over 130 grand on the 383 blown stroker ... still going strong.

It depends on how one drives, how well maintained the drive line is, and of what quality your internals are.

Additionally, if you're tweaking out a car to sell it, you're tweaking it for the wrong reason. I've got over a 250k on the lumina, it's not getting sold.

However, to claim that you'll never be able to sell it for a return? That depends on the car you choose. There are plenty of people out there that are fans of one sort of car or another. Who in their right mind would spend 8k on a rebuilt 89 pontiac 6000 ste? Someone who is a fan of the car line.

I've had offers for my Lumina as high as 7 grand at the track after toasting a C4, if I so chose to, I could get a nice return. You just have to know the market for the car you have.

[Edited on 8-8-2004 by Tsa`ah]

[Marl]

ummm what exactally have you done to your lumina?

Multiple Mustang owner curious and would love to see it blow my doors off.

[Tsa`ah]

Removed the stock 3.1L V-6 and 4T60 transaxle.

Modified supercharged 3800 V-6 (series 2 L67) and 5 speed getrag 282 5 speed trans.

Engine mods : 20 over bore, forged crank and pistons. race ready cam, underdrive pulley, intercooler, Zex wet nitrous application, independent fuel control, true cold air intake, decked and extruded heads, headers, 2.5 inch cat-back exhaust system. The series 2 supercharger was replaced with the newer hybrid version, but honed and polished and the snout replaced to add another 4psi of boost.

[Blazing247]

Don't underestimate the Mustang. My buddy drives a 2003 Z06, and he told me he got smoked from a Stang that looked completely stock except for the blower. Turns out it's one of the (the?) fastest cars on the east coast. My personal favorite car that is no longer produced is a tie between the Z and the Supra. I love the 3000GT's, too, but not as much.

[Marl]

ok now question two.....why a lumina?:bleh:

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Marluxian
ok now question two.....why a lumina?:bleh:

3 reasons.

Purchased the Lumina new one month before I graduated HS in 92. It's paid for and why not?

The L67 and L36 motors (in Grand Prix GT, Regals, Montes, Bonneville SSE and so forth) bolt up to the Lumina without the need to fabricate anything. Same with the manual transaxle. I could have gone with the 4.6/8 northstar V-8, but why add 200 lbs of weight for the same power and torque a NA 3800 provides?

There is nothing like the look on the face of the common sports car driver when they get their asses handed to them by an unassuming mid-sized family car. Why be obvious?


Don't underestimate the Mustang. My buddy drives a 2003 Z06, and he told me he got smoked from a Stang that looked completely stock except for the blower. Turns out it's one of the (the?) fastest cars on the east coast. My personal favorite car that is no longer produced is a tie between the Z and the Supra. I love the 3000GT's, too, but not as much.

Of course it looked stock with the exception of a blower, that's the purpose. Chances are the entire drive line wasn't completely stock. Despite what most race boy wannabees think, you don't just slap on a super charger and run .... there is so much more to do.

On the strip you underestimate no one. I have to take my car for a two hour drive on open strip nights to get anyone to race me.

[Marl]

[i]Originally posted by Tsa`ah



Purchased the Lumina new one month before I graduated HS in 92. It's paid for and why not?



There is nothing like the look on the face of the common sports car driver when they get their asses handed to them by an unassuming mid-sized family car. Why be obvious?




best reason is always paid for..... and yes it is fun times when a sleeper car takes anyone around for the ride of their life....dont know whats more fun family sedans, station wagons, or beat up pickups