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Riltus
03-16-2013, 07:19 AM
The backsword, scale (AG3), damage factor which had been listed as .270 is actually .225. The backsword weapon table on Krakiipedia has been updated with the corrected value. I verified that the listed chain DF (.240) is correct.
Don't shoot! I'm just the messenger.
vs scale
You swing a saw-toothed silvery rolaren backsword at a hobgoblin!
AS: +106 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +65 = +182
... and hit for 21 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the left arm.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
DF: .225
ER success margin: 82
Raw dmg: 18 (82 * .225)
Crit dmg: 3
Total dmg: 21
vs chain
You swing a saw-toothed silvery rolaren backsword at a dark orc!
AS: +170 vs DS: +77 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +40 = +167
... and hit for 19 points of damage!
Slashing strike near forehead nicks an eyelid!
That must sting!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
DF: .240
ER success margin: 67
Raw dmg: 16 (67 * .240)
Crit dmg: 3
Total dmg: 19
Mark
Warriorbird
03-16-2013, 08:29 AM
Ugh backswords.
Riltus
03-16-2013, 08:34 AM
Ugh backswords.
That's not the real bad news.
The reason I had a character swinging a rolaren backsword at a hobgoblin is related to DEX bonus crit weighting research.
Preliminarily, DEX bonus crit weighting has a limited application.
These are some of the findings. More extensive testing will be needed to reconfirm these results and expand the list.
DEX weighting (YES): closed fist, hook knife, dagger, rapier, 901, 903, 904, 906
DEX weighting (NO): short sword, longsword, backsword, handaxe, claidhmore
Examples
1. Minor Acid (character with 34 DEX bonus , 8 pts. of weighting) shows evidence of DEX weighting.
You gesture at a giant marmot.
You hurl a hissing stream of acid at a giant marmot!
AS: +159 vs DS: +74 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +1 = +121
... and hit for 18 points of damage!
Acid burns to the midsection leave a lasting impression.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
DF: .383
ER success margin: 21
Raw dmg: 8 (21 * .383)
Crit dmg: 10
Total dmg: 18
Armor crit divisor: 6 (double leather)
Max crit rank w/o weighting: 1 [trunc( 8/6)]
Actual crit rank: 2
A minimum of 4 pts. of weighting is required for a rank 2 critical outcome
2. Handaxe (character with 29 DEX bonus , 7 pts. of weighting) no evidence of DEX weighting
You swing a handaxe at a hobgoblin!
AS: +115 vs DS: +44 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +72 = +175
... and hit for 23 points of damage!
Jarring blow to the hobgoblin's back.
DF: .270
ER success margin: 75
Raw dmg: 20 (75 * .270)
Crit dmg: 3
Total dmg: 23
Armor crit divisor: 7 (brig)
Max crit rank w/o weighting: 2 [trunc( 20/7)
Actual crit rank: 1 (after randomization)
Even 1 pt. of weighting would have increased the crit to minimum rank 2 after randomization.
Mark
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 02:15 PM
All testing was flawed based on critter choices... nothing to see here... but will continue to review in another thread,
Wizard spell Testing: (Whirlin, +44 DEX mod)
Dex Mod Applied: 901, 903, 904, 906, 908, 910, 505, 510
As far as I can tell, ALL wizard spells have DEX mod added as phantom crit tiering damage. 518 maybe not, but I highly doubt it.
Archery Testing Results: (Whirlin, +44 DEX mod)
Dex Mod Applied: Short, Composite, and Long Bow, Light Crossbows, Heavy Crossbows
Two-Handed Weapon Testing (Bard, +25 DEX Mod)
To Be Tested: Battle Axe, Two-handed Sword, Maul, War Mattock, Flamberge, Flail, Military Pick, Quarterstaff, Runestaff
Polearm Testing Results (Bard, +25 DEX Mod)
DEX Mod applied: Hammer of Kai, Spear (Two-handed), Pilum, Naginta
No DEX mod: Awl-Pike, Lance, jeddart-axe, Halberd, Trident (two-handed)
It took me a LONG time to do a simple test... but Crit Bonuses from DEX are were not restricted to 1 tier with 906:
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (40) ... 108 (44)
You gesture at a lich qyn'arj.
You hurl a stream of fire at a lich qyn'arj!
AS: +445 vs DS: +336 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +41 = +186
... and hit for 99 points of damage!
Flames engulf body. Chest left a smoldering ruin.
>
RANK 8 CHEST, FIRE, Damage: 60 Status Effect: FATAL, Wounds: Rank 3
DF: .455
Raw dmg: 39.13 (86 * .455)
Crit dmg: 11
Total dmg: 50
Armor crit divisor: 6 (ASG 6)
Max crit rank w/o weighting: 6 [trunc(39/6)
Actual crit rank: 8
Actual Phantom Damage added: 9
However, for bows, I have not identified a situation where my Crit Tier was boosted by more than 1 tier due to my DEX... But DEX is definitely added to crit tiers with longbows:
You fire an arrow at a festering taint!
AS: +401 vs DS: +319 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +69 = +181
... and hit for 46 points of damage!
Shot knocks the festering taint's head back by pushing on the inside of the skull!
RANK 5 RIGHT EYE PUNCTURE: Damage: 20 Status Effect: FATAL Wounds: Rank 3, + head Rank 3
AvD 30 could be ASG 8 or 16... But calculates out to ASG 8
DF: .325
Raw dmg: 26 (81 * .325)
Crit dmg: 11
Total dmg: 37
Armor crit divisor: 6 (ASG 8)
Max crit rank w/o weighting: 4 [trunc(26/6)
Actual crit rank: 5
Actual Phantom Damage added: 4
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 02:58 PM
Dexterity (DEX): 91 (25) ... 91 (25)
You thrust with a fist-capped Vaalorian sarissa at a greater faeroth!
AS: +338 vs DS: +222 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +28 = +177
... and hit for 57 points of damage!
Internal organs bruised.
The greater faeroth is stunned!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 3 ABDOMEN CRUSH: Damage: 15 Status Effect: Stunned 1 Round Wounds: Rank 2
Weapon used: sarissa against AvD: 33, d100 Roll: 28, Endroll: 177, Total Damage: 57
DF 0.55
Endroll 190
Base Damage 50
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 7
Minimum 3
Phantom Damage @ DEX/4 would result in Base Tier 8, upping minimum to 4. Unless the equation isn't DEX/4 for lances...?
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 03:27 PM
You thrust with a sonic awl-pike at a lesser faeroth!
AS: +293 vs DS: +181 with AvD: +17 + d100 roll: +31 = +160
... and hit for 43 points of damage!
Strike to the chest breaks a rib!
** Your sonic awl-pike unleashes a blast of sonic energy at a lesser faeroth! **
... 25 points of damage!
Nice blow to chest!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 2 CHEST PUNCTURE: Damage: 10 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
RANK 3 CHEST, IMPACT, Damage: 15 Status Effect: Stunned 1 Round, Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: awl-pike against AvD: 17, d100 Roll: 31, Endroll: 160, Total Damage: 68
Armor: Leather class
DF 0.55
Endroll 160
Base Damage 33
Crit Divisor 6
Base Tier 5
Minimum 2
Dexterity (DEX): 91 (25) ... 91 (25)
Should have bumped it up to 6/3 thresholds.
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 03:35 PM
You swing a sonic Hammer of Kai at a lesser faeroth!
AS: +293 vs DS: +197 with AvD: +22 + d100 roll: +6 = +124
... and hit for 19 points of damage!
Strike pierces thigh!
The lesser faeroth is knocked to the ground!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
> RANK 2 RIGHT LEG PUNCTURE: Damage: 9 Status Effect: Knockdown Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: hammer against AvD: 22, d100 Roll: 6, Endroll: 124, Total Damage: 19
Leather
DF 0.425
Endroll 124
Base Damage 10
Crit Divisor 6
Base Tier 1
Minimum 0
Observed +2 Phantom Damage with a Hammer of Kai
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 03:50 PM
Jeddart-Axe
You swing a sonic jeddart-axe at a lesser faeroth!
AS: +293 vs DS: +167 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +16 = +171
... and hit for 33 points of damage!
Wild slash scratches the back of the lesser faeroth's hand.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 2 LEFT HAND SLASH: Damage: 3 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: jeddart-axe against AvD: 29, d100 Roll: 16, Endroll: 171, Total Damage: 33
Leather
DF 0.425
Endroll 171
Base Damage 30
Crit Divisor 6
Base Tier 5
Minimum 2
Would have tiered up to 36 damage for a 6/3 Crit
No to Jeddart-Axe
You swing a sonic halberd at a greater faeroth!
AS: +293 vs DS: +226 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +60 = +152
... and hit for 26 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the back.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 1 BACK PUNCTURE: Damage: 5 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: halberd against AvD: 25, d100 Roll: 60, Endroll: 152, Total Damage: 26
No to Halberds
You thrust with a sonic trident at a greater faeroth!
AS: +293 vs DS: +188 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +95 = +224
... and hit for 62 points of damage!
Blow to head!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 3 HEAD SLASH: Damage: 15 Status Effect: Stunned 3 Rounds Wounds: Rank 2
Weapon used: trident against AvD: 24, d100 Roll: 95, Endroll: 224, Total Damage: 62
No to Trident
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 03:54 PM
YES to Spears (two handed)
You thrust with a sonic spear at a lesser faeroth!
AS: +293 vs DS: +194 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +17 = +145
... and hit for 32 points of damage!
Loud *crack* as the lesser faeroth's sternum breaks!
The lesser faeroth is stunned!
** Your sonic spear unleashes a blast of sonic energy at a lesser faeroth! **
... 40 points of damage!
Hard strike to left leg breaking tendons and bone!
It is knocked to the ground!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 3 CHEST PUNCTURE: Damage: 15 Status Effect: Stunned 2 Rounds Wounds: Rank 1
RANK 6 LEFT LEG, IMPACT, Damage: 25 Status Effect: Stunned 6 Rounds, Knockdown, Wounds: Rank 2
DF 0.385
Endroll 145
Base Damage 17
Crit Divisor 6
Base Tier 2
Minimum 1
YES to Pilums
You thrust with a sonic pilum at a greater faeroth!
AS: +256 vs DS: +148 with AvD: +16 + d100 roll: +96 = +220
... and hit for 44 points of damage!
Strike pierces calf!
The greater faeroth is knocked to the ground!
** Your sonic pilum unleashes a blast of sonic energy at a greater faeroth! **
... 1 point of damage!
Stubs left hand finger.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
>
RANK 4 RIGHT LEG PUNCTURE: Damage: 17 Status Effect: Stunned 3 Rounds, Knockdown Wounds: Rank 2
RANK 1 LEFT HAND, IMPACT, Damage: 1 Status Effect: none, Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: pilum against AvD: 16, d100 Roll: 96, Endroll: 220, Total Damage: 45
Scale
DF 0.225
Endroll 220
Base Damage 27
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 3
Minimum 1
Latrinsorm
03-16-2013, 04:08 PM
Riltus' results looked thematically related (dex and small) (or, if you prefer: it's not the size of the boat but the motion in the ocean), but the bizarrely ad hoc results revealed by Whirlin's testing make me wonder if there is a fault in the underlying methodology. Wasn't there briefly a theory that crit weighting could apply in a range of {full value, ..., 0}? I don't remember exactly what happened to that, but from what I recall Riltus and Gnimble did claidhmore things but then Gnimble did non-claidhmore things and things were not as they seemed.
Warriorbird
03-16-2013, 04:15 PM
It would not surprise me if it has been bugged since implementation. Interesting stuff at the very least, guys. Good job!
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 04:16 PM
Each of those examples probably took me about 200 swings to find... I have a nice excel spreadsheet going on one window... However, due to randomization and such, many appeared to be within the acceptable range, ESPECIALLY those with no dex bonus attribute... Very difficult to prove one way or another...
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 05:07 PM
You swing a naginata at a greater faeroth!
AS: +291 vs DS: +173 with AvD: +45 + d100 roll: +58 = +221
... and hit for 75 points of damage!
Blow shatters knee and severs lower leg!
A greater faeroth roars in pain, grasping her left leg!
The scintillating white light surrounding the naginata fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 7 RIGHT LEG PUNCTURE: Damage: 27 Status Effect: Stunned 8 Rounds, Knockdown, AMPUTATE Wounds: Rank 3
Weapon used: naginata against AvD: 45, d100 Roll: 58, Endroll: 221, Total Damage: 75
Scale
DF 0.4
Endroll 221
Base Damage 48
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 6
Minimum 3
Observed +2 Phantom Damage
You swing a naginata at a greater faeroth!
AS: +291 vs DS: +201 with AvD: +45 + d100 roll: +6 = +141
... and hit for 31 points of damage!
You ripped a chunk out of the greater faeroth's left leg with that one.
The greater faeroth is stunned!
The scintillating white light surrounding the naginata fades some.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 3 LEFT LEG CRUSH: Damage: 15 Status Effect: Stunned 1 Round Wounds: Rank 2
Weapon used: naginata against AvD: 45, d100 Roll: 6, Endroll: 141, Total Damage: 31
Scale
DF 0.4
Endroll 141
Base Damage 16
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 2
Minimum 1
Observed 5 phantom damage
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 05:22 PM
Those tests were conducted with my bard with +25 DEX bonus... following tests were done with Whirlin with a 44 DEX bonus
You gesture at a shrickhen.
You hurl a roaring ball of fire at a shrickhen!
AS: +327 vs DS: +222 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +8 = +157
... and hit for 23 points of damage!
Burst of flames to left arm toasts skin to elbows.
The shrickhen is stunned!
The roaring ball of fire strikes a shrickhen, blossoming into a much larger sphere of flame upon impact.
... 20 points of damage!
Nasty burns to back. Won't be sleeping on that for awhile.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
RANK 3 LEFT ARM, FIRE, Damage: 8 Status Effect: Stunned 1 Round, Wounds: Rank 1
RANK 4 BACK, FIRE, Damage: 20 Status Effect: Stunned ?? Rounds, Wounds: Rank 2
Weapon used: bow against AvD: 44, d100 Roll: 8, Endroll: 157, Total Damage: 43
DF 0.27
Endroll 157
Base Damage 15
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 2
Minimum 1
Observed: +7 Phantom Damage with 908
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 05:36 PM
You nock a wooden arrow in your composite bow.
You fire a wooden arrow at a moulis!
AS: +259 vs DS: +180 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +99 = +202
A layer of shifting stone absorbs 12 points of damage!
... and hit for 46 points of damage!
Vicious strike punctures intestines!
The scintillating red light surrounding the arrow fades some.
The wooden arrow sticks in a moulis's abdomen!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
>
a bundle of wooden arrows entered the room.
RANK 5 ABDOMEN PUNCTURE: Damage: 25 Status Effect: Stunned ?? Rounds Wounds: Rank 2
Weapon used: bow against AvD: 24, d100 Roll: 99, Endroll: 202, Total Damage: 46
That AvD hints at Scale Armor...
Moulis
DF 0.325
Endroll 202
Base Damage 33
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 4
Minimum 2
Observed... +2 Phantom Damage
You nock a wooden arrow in your composite bow.
You fire a wooden arrow at a moulis!
AS: +259 vs DS: +177 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +28 = +134
A layer of shifting stone absorbs 7 points of damage!
... and hit for 14 points of damage!
Strike to the chest breaks a rib!
The scintillating red light surrounding the arrow fades some.
The wooden arrow sticks in a moulis's chest!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
>
RANK 2 CHEST PUNCTURE: Damage: 10 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: bow against AvD: 24, d100 Roll: 28, Endroll: 134, Total Damage: 19
Moulis
DF 0.325
Endroll 134
Base Damage 11
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 1
Minimum 0
Observed +3 Phantom Damage
Still looking for more!
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 06:20 PM
>You gesture at a dhu goleras.
You hurl a freezing ball of pure cold at a dhu goleras!
AS: +355 vs DS: +219 with AvD: +43 + d100 roll: +100 = +279
... and hit for 89 points of damage!
Failed to evade blast! Eye and brain splintered beyond recognition.
The dhu goleras opens his mouth wide and lets out a choked, shrill scream and his eyes cloud over to a solid milky white as he dies.
The freezing ball of pure cold strikes a dhu goleras, blossoming into a much larger sphere of frost upon impact.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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RANK 8 RIGHT EYE, COLD, Damage: 45 Status Effect: FATAL, Wounds: Rank 3 + Rank 3 Head
DF 0.245
Endroll 279
Base Damage 44
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 6
Minimum 3
Observed: +12 Phantom Damage... Beyond expected value.
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 06:26 PM
You gesture at a dhu goleras.
You hurl a roaring ball of fire at a dhu goleras!
AS: +355 vs DS: +224 with AvD: +48 + d100 roll: +66 = +245
... and hit for 69 points of damage!
Right leg horribly scorched. Won't be usable for weeks.
The dhu goleras opens her mouth wide and lets out a choked, shrill scream and her eyes cloud over to a solid milky white as she dies.
RANK 7 RIGHT LEG, FIRE, Damage: 30 Status Effect: Stunned 8 Rounds, Knockdown, Wounds: Rank 3 (Amputate)
DF 0.27
Endroll 245
Base Damage 39
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 5
Minimum 2
Observed Phantom damage +10 with 908
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 06:27 PM
You gesture at a dhu goleras.
You hurl a stream of fire at a dhu goleras!
AS: +355 vs DS: +295 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +67 = +158
... and hit for 30 points of damage!
Nasty burns to left arm. Gonna need lots of butter.
The dhu goleras is stunned!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
RANK 4 LEFT ARM, FIRE, Damage: 10 Status Effect: Stunned 2 Rounds, Wounds: Rank 2
Observed +8 Phantom from 906... first cast too... still substantially easier to see the crit tier up on spells rather than bows... going back to bow testing!
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 06:31 PM
You gesture at a dhu goleras.
You hurl a large boulder at a dhu goleras!
AS: +355 vs DS: +260 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +88 = +221
... and hit for 101 points of damage!
Right leg collapses as the bones turn to dust!
A dhu goleras grunts and falls over grasping her mangled right leg!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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RANK 9 RIGHT LEG, IMPACT, Damage: 45 Status Effect: Stunned 12 Rounds, Knockdown, Wounds: Rank 3 (Amputate)
Weapon used: bow against AvD: 38, d100 Roll: 88, Endroll: 221, Total Damage: 101
+4 Phantom Damage.
You nock a wooden arrow in your composite bow.
You fire a wooden arrow at a dhu goleras!
AS: +333 vs DS: +263 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +96 = +194
... and hit for 56 points of damage!
Incredible shot to the eye penetrates deep into skull!
The dhu goleras opens her mouth wide and lets out a choked, shrill scream and her eyes cloud over to a solid milky white as she collapses and dies.
The scintillating red light surrounding the arrow fades some.
The wooden arrow sticks in a dhu goleras's left eye!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
RANK 6 RIGHT EYE PUNCTURE: Damage: 25 Status Effect: FATAL Wounds: Rank 3, + head Rank 3
Weapon used: bow against AvD: 28, d100 Roll: 96, Endroll: 194, Total Damage: 56
11 Phantom Damage. Also proves double Crit Tier increases are possible!
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 06:37 PM
You nock a wooden arrow in your short bow.
You fire a wooden arrow at a dhu goleras!
AS: +370 vs DS: +289 with AvD: +18 + d100 roll: +89 = +188
... and hit for 44 points of damage!
Shot knocks the dhu goleras's head back by pushing on the inside of the skull!
The dhu goleras opens her mouth wide and lets out a choked, shrill scream and her eyes cloud over to a solid milky white as she collapses and dies.
The scintillating red light surrounding the arrow fades some.
The wooden arrow sticks in a dhu goleras's left eye!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
RANK 5 RIGHT EYE PUNCTURE: Damage: 20 Status Effect: FATAL Wounds: Rank 3, + head Rank 3
Weapon used: bow against AvD: 18, d100 Roll: 89, Endroll: 188, Total Damage: 44
24 for a rank 5 crit... That's a nice +11 Phantom Damage right there.
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 06:40 PM
You gesture at a moulis.
You unleash a bolt of churning air at a moulis!
AS: +356 vs DS: +211 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +72 = +250
A layer of shifting stone shatters!
... and hit for 56 points of damage!
The moulis stunned by strike to hand.
The moulis is knocked to the ground!
The moulis is stunned!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
RANK 6 RIGHT HAND, UNBALANCE, Damage: 14 Status Effect: Stunned 3 Rounds, Wounds: Rank 2
505 gets Dex Bonus as well... That's a nice +10 Phantom Damage there.
You nock a wooden arrow in your crimson long bow.
You fire a wooden arrow at a dhu goleras!
AS: +320 vs DS: +287 with AvD: +27 + d100 roll: +92 = +152
... and hit for 35 points of damage!
Attack punctures the eye and connects with something really vital!
The dhu goleras opens his mouth wide and lets out a choked, shrill scream and his eyes cloud over to a solid milky white as he collapses and dies.
The scintillating red light surrounding the arrow fades some.
The wooden arrow sticks in a dhu goleras's left eye!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
RANK 4 RIGHT EYE PUNCTURE: Damage: 17 Status Effect: FATAL Wounds: Rank 3, + head Rank 3
+10 Phantom Damage
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 06:55 PM
You fire a light crossbow bolt at a tawny brindlecat!
AS: +160 vs DS: +85 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +21 = +124
... and hit for 16 points of damage!
Strike pierces thigh!
The tawny brindlecat is knocked to the ground!
Bad angle. The light crossbow bolt fails to stick in a tawny brindlecat.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
> RANK 2 RIGHT LEG PUNCTURE: Damage: 9 Status Effect: Knockdown Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: crossbow against AvD: 28, d100 Roll: 21, Endroll: 124, Total Damage: 16
Crit divisor of 6 due to double leathers.
16-9 = 7, +5 Phantom damage...
Doesn't matter, crossbows will still suck even if they have the dex mod.
You fire a heavy crossbow bolt at a tawny brindlecat!
AS: +160 vs DS: +85 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +27 = +135
... and hit for 21 points of damage!
Surgical strike removes the tawny brindlecat's left eye!
The tawny brindlecat is stunned!
The heavy crossbow bolt sticks in a tawny brindlecat's left eye!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
RANK 3 LEFT EYE PUNCTURE: Damage: 10 Status Effect: Stunned 5 Rounds Wounds: Rank 3
Weapon used: crossbow against AvD: 33, d100 Roll: 27, Endroll: 135, Total Damage: 21
21-11=10
3*6 = 18
8 Phantom Damage.
Done with archery!
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 07:43 PM
NO DEX: Battle Axe (not +2), Two-handed Sword (not +3), Maul (not +3), War Mattock (Not +3), Flamberge (Not +3)
To Be Tested: Flail, Military Pick, Quarterstaff, Runestaff
Battle Axe:
You swing a sonic battle axe at a ridgeback boar!
AS: +157 vs DS: +75 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +60 = +179
... and hit for 47 points of damage!
Hesitant slash to the ridgeback boar's upper right arm!
Just a scratch.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
RANK 2 RIGHT ARM SLASH: Damage: 7 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Boars have Scale type armor... Crit Divisor 7
DF 0.5
Endroll 179
Base Damage 40
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 5
Minimum 2
With my DEX of +25, I did not receive even +2 Phantom Damage.
Dexterity (DEX): 91 (25) ... 91 (25)
Two-Handed Sword
You swing a sonic twohanded sword at a ridgeback boar!
AS: +157 vs DS: +79 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +34 = +150
... and hit for 28 points of damage!
Jarring blow to the ridgeback boar's back.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 1 BACK CRUSH: Damage: 3 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: sword against AvD: 38, d100 Roll: 34, Endroll: 150, Total Damage: 28
DF 0.5
Endroll 150
Base Damage 25
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 3
Minimum 1
If I had +3 Phantom Damage, that would be impossible.
Maul:
You swing a sonic maul at a ridgeback boar!
AS: +157 vs DS: +82 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +46 = +159
... and hit for 26 points of damage!
Cut over the ridgeback boar's right eye.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
RANK 1 RIGHT EYE CRUSH: Damage: 1 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: maul against AvD: 38, d100 Roll: 46, Endroll: 159, Total Damage: 26
DF 0.425
Endroll 159
Base Damage 25
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 3
Minimum 1
Req for Next Tier: 28
Less than 3 Phantom Damage.
War Mattock
You swing a sonic mattock at a ridgeback boar!
AS: +157 vs DS: +65 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +94 = +224
... and hit for 58 points of damage!
Smack to the eye bursts blood vessels.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
RANK 3 RIGHT EYE CRUSH: Damage: 5 Status Effect: Stunned 3 Rounds Wounds: Rank 2
Weapon used: mattock against AvD: 38, d100 Roll: 94, Endroll: 224, Total Damage: 58
DF 0.425
Endroll 224
Base Damage 53
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 7
Minimum 3
Req for Next Tier: 56
Confidence: Less than 3 Phantom Damage
Flamberge
You swing a sonic flamberge at a ridgeback boar!
AS: +132 vs DS: +44 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +81 = +211
... and hit for 68 points of damage!
Hard slash to belly severs a few nerve endings.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
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RANK 3 ABDOMEN SLASH: Damage 15 Status Effect: Stunned 3 Rounds Wounds: Rank 2, Nerves Rank 1
Weapon used: flamberge against AvD: 42, d100 Roll: 81, Endroll: 211, Total Damage: 68
DF 0.475
Endroll 211
Base Damage 53
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 7
Minimum 3
Req for Next Tier: 56
Confidence 3
No Dex mod on Flamberges... Confidence of lack of +3 Phantom Damage
Riltus
03-16-2013, 08:18 PM
There are some errors with your calculations and DON'T use boars as a target. They have natural crit padding which will skew the results. I don't have the time right now to review all the data but here's an example..
Post #6: Sarissa (lance) you have the wrong base damage value. It is 42 not 50. With 42 damage and a 7 armor crit divisor the results are inconclusive since you could have up to 6 pts. of weighting and still have a rank 3 critical outcome.
Boar critical padding:
Two-Handed Sword
You swing a sonic twohanded sword at a ridgeback boar!
AS: +157 vs DS: +79 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +34 = +150
... and hit for 28 points of damage!
Jarring blow to the ridgeback boar's back.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
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RANK 1 BACK CRUSH: Damage: 3 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: sword against AvD: 38, d100 Roll: 34, Endroll: 150, Total Damage: 28
DF 0.5
Endroll 150
Base Damage 25
Crit Divisor 7
Base Tier 3
Minimum 1
It is not possible to have a Rank 1 crit with 25 base damage unless there is critical padding.
Maximum crit rank [trunc(25/7)] = 3
In the absence of crit padding, a rank 3 can only randomize to a rank 2 or 3. The actual critical is a rank 1.
Mark
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 08:22 PM
... bah... I thought randomization rounded down.
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 09:26 PM
You thrust with a fist-capped Vaalorian sarissa at a greater faeroth!
AS: +338 vs DS: +222 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +15 = +164
... and hit for 45 points of damage!
Nice puncture to the abdomen, just missed vital organs!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
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RANK 2 ABDOMEN PUNCTURE: Damage: 10 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: sarissa against AvD: 33, d100 Roll: 15, Endroll: 164, Total Damage: 45
Crit resistant mobs by this calculation then... Or -crit weighting on lances! whee!
Warriorbird
03-16-2013, 10:15 PM
You thrust with a fist-capped Vaalorian sarissa at a greater faeroth!
AS: +338 vs DS: +222 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +15 = +164
... and hit for 45 points of damage!
Nice puncture to the abdomen, just missed vital organs!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
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RANK 2 ABDOMEN PUNCTURE: Damage: 10 Status Effect: 0 Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: sarissa against AvD: 33, d100 Roll: 15, Endroll: 164, Total Damage: 45
Crit resistant mobs by this calculation then... Or -crit weighting on lances! whee!
Crit resistant again, yo.
Whirlin
03-16-2013, 10:57 PM
You thrust with a fist-capped Vaalorian sarissa at a hobgoblin!
AS: +145 vs DS: +50 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +19 = +152
... and hit for 36 points of damage!
Strike pierces thigh!
The hobgoblin crumples to the ground and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
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RANK 2 RIGHT LEG PUNCTURE: Damage: 9 Status Effect: Knockdown Wounds: Rank 1
Weapon used: sarissa against AvD: 38, d100 Roll: 19, Endroll: 152, Total Damage: 36
DF 0.525
Endroll 152
Base Damage 27
Crit Divisor 6
Base Tier 4
Minimum 2
Req for Next Tier: 30
Confidence 3
Whirlin
03-17-2013, 12:14 AM
ohh well... can retest in the morning with hobgoblins.
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