Most powerful item in Gemstone

[Wizard]

Have some crazy armor, weapon, enhancive, or magic item you think is the most powerful in the lands? Post it here with what it exactly does. Let's see who has can claim this title!

[SHAFT]

Thalior's Staff

[Highend]

Thailor's Eye

[neimanz1]

Have some crazy armor, weapon, enhancive, or magic item you think is the most powerful in the lands? Post it here with what it exactly does. Let's see who has can claim this title!

Arctal's locker because it's the coffin for the most powerful items

[Ardwen]

I counter with Speaker's locker

[BriarFox]

I am a huge fan of the Tonis sets.

And though it doesn't have the same cache, I'm also rather proud of my 7x, heavily crit padded, 4-slot fusion augmented chain that's +14 to ranged, +21 to dexterity stat, +11 to ambush. Basically, +27/+35 with hcp.

[thefarmer]

Hoes are the most powerful

[SHAFT]

I am a huge fan of the Tonis sets.

And though it doesn't have the same cache, I'm also rather proud of my 7x, heavily crit padded, 4-slot fusion augmented chain that's +14 to ranged, +21 to dexterity stat, +11 to ambush. Basically, +27/+35 with hcp.

Yeah thats nice

[Fallen]

I imagine there are a few sets of wondrously padded 10x suits of armor out there. Nothing really beats a fantastic set of armor.

[waywardgs]

Thalior's Staff

NERFED

[waywardgs]

I am a huge fan of the Tonis sets.

And though it doesn't have the same cache, I'm also rather proud of my 7x, heavily crit padded, 4-slot fusion augmented chain that's +14 to ranged, +21 to dexterity stat, +11 to ambush. Basically, +27/+35 with hcp.

What's most impressive about this is that you put it together.

Besides how awesome it is.

[Donquix]

I counter with Speaker's locker

and both of those things make me sad :(

[SHAFT]

What does speaker have besides the ebows?

[Jace Solo]

I don't know what either of them took to the grave. Enlighten us n00bs

[zoraster]

what's thailor's staff? or what did it used to do?


way back in the day, i think either on AOL or just after GS moved to the internet, i thought i was pretty hot stuff as like a level 16 sorcerer. I was just hanging out at the boulder in the hobs, when someone challenged me to a duel. He was level 7 he said. We bet 10k on it (which was a lot for me back then). I had never dueled before, but I figured why not? I'm unlikely to lose and I can just stay in stance guarded the whole time. He then asked if there were any rules to it, anything off limits? I couldn't really think of anything so I think I made up something about making sure the other person gets to a cleric and resurrected intact. He asked again, "are you SURE there isn't anything off limits?" This made me really nervous, but I said no.

We started the duel. He raised his sword to the sky. And it immediately killed me dead. I don't think there was a roll or anything. It just flat out killed me. He (or maybe it was his Lord level companion) said, "He DID ask you if there was anything off limits." I have not dueled again. I have no idea what his weapon was. Any ideas?

[Fallen]

Likely an immolation weapon, unless it was that crazy spirit point draining weapon.

[Androidpk]

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Thalior's_Staff

[SHAFT]

The immolation items were waived at someone. I think Enegue had a spirit draining sword and that you waved as well. I dunno

[Fallen]

Oh, it could have been Sorrow.

[Androidpk]

The minimum level to hold Sorrow is 9.

[Methais]

Didn't Enegue have some laser shooting glasses? What was the deal with those?

I always thought Dartaghan's crystal ball (before it got nerfed after Tsin got ahold of it) was pretty incredible. Could teleport to anyone anywhere at any time, cross realm.

I think it got nerfed down to 1x a day if I remember right.

[SHAFT]

Still, 1x a day port anywhere is pretty sweet.

There are so many cool items in GS. Probably the main reason a lot of us play, the cool toys.

[neimanz1]

it wasnt nerf that bad i think it went down 6x and is still unlimited locate with a eerie message so its still a really awesome item

[SHAFT]

it wasnt nerf that bad i think it went down 6x and is still unlimited locate with a eerie message so its still a really awesome item

What happened to it?

[Methais]

it wasnt nerf that bad i think it went down 6x and is still unlimited locate with a eerie message so its still a really awesome item

I thought they nerfed it down to 5x, and then further nerfed it down to 1x? Maybe I'm thinking of the Darkstone Key, I know that got nerfed too after Tsin got ahold of it but I forgot how badly.

I got to use them both as well as Thalior's staff, so that makes me l33t.

Almost as l33t as GI Jose.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/602738_10151465233048486_899993946_n.jpg

[Jarvan]

I thought they nerfed it down to 5x, and then further nerfed it down to 1x? Maybe I'm thinking of the Darkstone Key, I know that got nerfed too after Tsin got ahold of it but I forgot how badly.

I got to use them both as well as Thalior's staff, so that makes me l33t.

Almost as l33t as GI Jose.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/602738_10151465233048486_899993946_n.jpg

It got nerfed down to 1x and only places a gold ring can go, but cross realms. Still very nice, but no where near what it was.

To me tho, the painting used to be the ultimate teleport item.

[SHAFT]

The most powerful weapon is probably the soul draining sword that no one would ever use for fear of being nerfed. So that doesn't really count.

For a short time the glove bows go into god mode, but they can't maintain it.

I dunno, I'd say the original ebows are probably the most powerful items weapon wise.

[Jace Solo]

The staff sounds pretty uber, especially that it was a shield. I'd keeeeel one of you for it. Well, you know...

[Kastrel]

For a short time the glove bows go into god mode, but they can't maintain it.

This made me curious, and looking at the stats, a Halfling Volnite with maxed Spirit Regen enhancives could get an innate 1 Spirit regen per 2 minutes off node, with the 2 minute cooldown 1 Spirit Regen Voln power . . . equates to an effective 1 Stamina per minute regen. Since the glove bows take 1 stamina per 45-60 seconds, a character like that would have a net loss of about 1 spirit every 7ish minutes, if you get a fairly average rate of spirit drain (every 52ish seconds, on average?). Not sure how dramatically Ranged AS drops from Spirit Drain (if at all), but they could maintain for about 7 minutes for every Spirit point they had, and with Spirit max enhancives, could last for a little under an hour and a half in god mode before spirit death.

So that would be cool.

EDIT: Looked at other stats on this item, and it can enter God mode every 120 minutes, and allows a continued access to some of the bonus for 20 minutes after ending God mode. With this crazy setup you could maintain God-mode or at least a buffed up variant for about 110/120 minutes all day long, and then regen your Stamina on a node in the downtime.

So what rich halfling wants to buy this and the required enhancives?

[Ardwen]

Crystal Ball should be unlimited local use and once a day crossrealms now, it also had strange limits, areas it just wouldnt work, like all of Teras and most of Logoth but it was 100 percent unlimited. The key should still be unlimited use in and out of darkstone, it used to be settable on room anywhere in game, now its just one room landing area and it has to be ringable. Painting was awesome, in a disk basically every could walk thru it and go to landing TSC from every room in game, now it must be in hand and it goes to the local TSC. Kree's sword is likely the most powerful weapon, when drawn it steals spirit from everyone but the weilder thats in the room. Thalior's eye is the most fun, eye worn item that was pretty much unwardable instant death, it could fail though, would fully despell the user and knock em into like 10 seconds RT, oh and its a DB item to boot. There is a damned nice 10x DS 6x TD shield staff wandering around too. Locker Staff and Teras Staff are a nice combo to own, each is unlimited but one way. have both ya get alot of free trips. Thingul diamond is nice too half a dozen unlimited use spells is hard to complain about, especially when one is 430.

[zoraster]

The minimum level to hold Sorrow is 9.

he could have been 9. it was quite a long time ago.

[Vorpodu]

Wizard hand's are pretty awesome. Oh, and isn't there going to be another spirit bow released soon?

[Drew]

I suppose part of the problem with determining the best item is considering usage. There are some items which people just won't use for fear of being nerfed. For instance there is an unlimited knockdown + RT with no warding check or resource consumption item but the owner won't use it for hunting after being warned it would be nerfed if he did, but in theory it's a super strong item.

[Buckwheet]

What Drew said. I thought that Tsin's two hander was pretty badass or Brute's. But I would never use them because of the high risk of loss in the places I hunt. So it would just sit in my locker. I find items that can't be stolen, disarmed, or cursed to be far more valuable and powerful.

[SHAFT]

We need to put droit in a bottle and its activated with miu. Just like that, most powerful item in the game!

[everan]

It got nerfed down to 1x and only places a gold ring can go, but cross realms. Still very nice, but no where near what it was.

To me tho, the painting used to be the ultimate teleport item.
I've used the painting, does that make me l33t too? :)

[Drew]

For me the most powerful item in the game would be any 10x armour with 40+ points of crit padding.

[Methais]

What does god mode on the bow glove do? I think I asked this in another thread, but then we ended up talking about Doom.


I find items that can't be stolen, disarmed, or cursed to be far more valuable and powerful.

^ This.

[SHAFT]

The glove bow shoots to 15x and flares every shot?

[Fallen]

For me the most powerful item in the game would be any 10x armour with 40+ points of crit padding.

Like minds and all that.

[Jarvan]

The glove bow shoots to 15x and flares every shot?

Taken from Krakii --

Properties

Each gauntlet can be raised to make a 5x enchant bow of pure energy appear in your hand. This costs 20 mana.
It costs 5 mana every minute to keep the bow from receding back into the gauntlet.
Arrows are created from the bow as you draw it back and are 0x enchant with plasma flares.
Double flares on the undead.
Once every 2 hours the gauntlet can be clenched to enter a spirit draining mode that drastically improves the bow's strength.
In spirit mode it costs 1 spirit every 45-60 seconds to maintain.
Once in spirit mode the arrows become 5x enchanted, and will flare on every hit.
Also once spirit mode starts the glove imparts a bonus of +10 to strength, aura, and influence that lasts for 20 minutes. Even after the bow has left spirit mode.
After the first spirit point is drained the arrows become 10x enchant.
Sometime after the first spirit point drain the bow will increase to 10x as well, making for effectively a 20x always flaring bow.
When spirit mode ends either by death or DROPping/SWAPping/WEARing the weapon back into the gauntlet it will inflict 2nd degree hand wounds.
Because the bow is made of pure energy, when disarmed the bow just recedes back into the gauntlet and needs to be reformed.

All in seriousness, it is the ultimate undead hunting tool. In god mode, it flares every time and double flares on undead.

Which leads me to believe that the new ones may be double flares on living.

[Androidpk]

The new one was shown shooting a fire mage (which isn't undead) and it didn't double flare.

[SHAFT]

Thanks, I'm driving and couldn't remember the stats on it.

[whiteflash]

What Drew said. I thought that Tsin's two hander was pretty badass or Brute's. But I would never use them because of the high risk of loss in the places I hunt. So it would just sit in my locker. I find items that can't be stolen, disarmed, or cursed to be far more valuable and powerful.

I think there are many conventional weapons that are super strong which are used constantly. We hunt everywhere with a 10x HCW perfect lance. I'm sure some others have stupidly high enchant claids and weighted weapons they use on the regular as well.

I wish they'd make some more of those old school insanely neat and unique items though, seems like the SIMU point of view is less fun=better.

[Jarvan]

The new one was shown shooting a fire mage (which isn't undead) and it didn't double flare.

but was it in god mode? I forget.


Thanks, I'm driving and couldn't remember the stats on it.

Now shaft, imagine having a glove bow, and an unlimited spirit regen item.

[Androidpk]

Yes.

[Buckwheet]

I think there are many conventional weapons that are super strong which are used constantly. We hunt everywhere with a 10x HCW perfect lance. I'm sure some others have stupidly high enchant claids and weighted weapons they use on the regular as well.

I wish they'd make some more of those old school insanely neat and unique items though, seems like the SIMU point of view is less fun=better.

Your key word there is "we". I would argue a solo player not wearing hundreds of millions in gear is not going to take a 80m weapon into OTF if there is any chance they can die or have died in the past. If they do, it just doesn't make any sense.

[whiteflash]

Your key word there is "we". I would argue a solo player not wearing hundreds of millions in gear is not going to take a 80m weapon into OTF if there is any chance they can die or have died in the past. If they do, it just doesn't make any sense.

I should have put an asterisk on it: *FUCK OTF and those thieving Ithzir, don't go there.

But moar cool items now!

[BriarFox]

Aspect of Owl + glove bow = thank you, ma'am.

[SHAFT]

Kerl's axe is pretty damn sweet too

[Xorai]

Who owns Thalior's eye now?

[Androidpk]

Speaker.

[Archigeek]

Kerl's axe is pretty damn sweet too

There are a couple of other strung axes out there. Koops I believe owns one, and Arctal just bought one. I have two: 10x permablessed perfect, and 8x ecw. As far as I know they are the only weapons that can be brought up to 40x enchant (the highest enchant anyone can hold in their hand). I've brought the 10x one up to that level several times, but more commonly during regular hunting I don't need to use that feature.

For years I had a policy of never holding anything in my hand that I couldn't afford to lose, and somehow I ended up with these. I guess I figure it's a game, and it's no fun to locker the good stuff. I agree with Whiteflash though, screw the Ithzir and their thieing ways.

As for "most powerful item" there are a few out there that just don't get talked about because the owners don't want to see them nerfed. Can't say that I blame them. Makes you wonder how many things got nerfed after falling into the hands of someone who couldn't use them judiciously and instead decided to exploit them for maximum power/profit.

[Xorai]

As for "most powerful item" there are a few out there that just don't get talked about because the owners don't want to see them nerfed. Can't say that I blame them.

This really irritates me. If an item got released, regardless of its abilities, it shouldn't be tampered with.

[Sean]

Except some items get released and are buggy and should be looked at.. ie: the unlimited heal everything sheaf.

[Archigeek]

This really irritates me. If an item got released, regardless of its abilities, it shouldn't be tampered with.

Well the game changes, and sometimes those changes aren't very compatable with old items. It still bugs me, but the truth is that in most cases, if people aren't dicks about it, their stuff isn't going to be tampered with. When things get nerfed, exploitation or borderline exploitation usually comes first. Sometimes it's something that SIMU just didn't think of, or just wasn't possible when the item was originally created. The gold bar making items are a good example of this. With some changes to skills and addition of lores, you could basically mint silvers with one of those. Had they not made the skill changes the smelters would have remained nifty but far from uber items. Once they figured out that someone could have a nice net gain of silvers with the right training, they nerfed them. I think they could have come up with a better solution than they did, but the nerf hammer is rarely subtle.

[caelric]

There is a nice looking 10x claid in plat, brought to that level (almost) solely through premium points. It recently changed hands, as the owner retired his accounts. Not sure where that fits on the 'most powerful weapon' scale.

[Asha]

Using such a weapon in Plat would make me very nervous.

[RSR]

Hand droppage on death was recently removed in plat. Full droppage on decay and death's sting now.

[Suppressed Poet]

I am a huge fan of the Tonis sets.

This is my answer too.

It's not just an item, it's like you are cheating the game. The Tonis set has the biggest impact I've seen for game mechanic improvement to a character.

[Allereli]

I'll go out of the box here and say a fix stat potion

[Buckwheet]

This is my answer too.

It's not just an item, it's like you are cheating the game. The Tonis set has the biggest impact I've seen for game mechanic improvement to a character.

Red armor does just about the same thing in terms of cheating.

[Danical]

Red armor does just about the same thing in terms of cheating.

Was the red armor 40 points of damage padding? I can't recall, but if so, wouldn't that mean its power has been greatly diminished with the introduction of variance to damage weighting/padding?

[Androidpk]

Yes. There are some clips somewhere of Brute using it and it's pretty badass.

[Fallen]

Virilneus's scroll tome before it was nerfed was definitely up there. Talk about pointlessly nerfing something. Even Nilven said he was forced to do it.

[neimanz1]

My top five items

1. 10x db item
2 seymour pouch- we know pures own gs
3. voln two handed sword- 2 handed version of the original banthis e-bow for voln master
4. brute's old incredibly maul at 5x and giantbane
5. red armor- this probably should be number #3 if more professions could use plate

[Soulpieced]

That red armor before the redux "update" would have been unreal. Here was a swing from hiding when I was about 130, not sure what armor Vlat was wearing, but that was a 1 round stun... 40 points of damage padding would have brought that final roll down to a rank 1.

You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing a black executioner's sword at Vlatimire!
AS: +782 vs DS: -5 with AvD: +18 + d100 roll: +59 = +864
... and hit for 54 points of damage!
Strong slash to Vlatimire's right leg!
Muscles exposed!
Not a pretty sight.
He is stunned!
Executioner's sword clashes with battle-torn armor!
[STR/DU: 99/255 vs. 99/590, d100(Open)= 6, d100(Open)= 12]
Roundtime: 6 sec.

[Drew]

My top five items

1. 10x db item
2 seymour pouch- we know pures own gs
3. voln two handed sword- 2 handed version of the original banthis e-bow for voln master
4. brute's old incredibly maul at 5x and giantbane
5. red armor- this probably should be number #3 if more professions could use plate

I think 10x 40 point armour and 10x db are the best items in the game, I agree.

[Androidpk]

Are there any 10x TD items?

[Archigeek]

Maybe it's because I play a square, I don't see a 10x db as all that powerful. Desirable and cool and rare and all that yes, but in terms of power it falls short of your 10x 40 point armor by quite a bit.

[Drew]

Yeah I'd put the armor first, the DB second, probably tonis boots third.

[Ardwen]

red armor is only 5x, before the redux nerf and the padding changes, a warrior above 70 or so was pretty much unkillable with a weapon hit, including claids and the 40 point mattocks. capped warriors then could get to like 85 percent redux or something, it was complete overkill, then you got imploded or DC'd. I always thought items that let you do stuff noone else could were the best items, things like the Pallbearers. That one is awesome, if it even still works now.

[Drew]

Don't know that one Ardwen, what does it do?

[neimanz1]

10x db is the most powerful item mechanic wise. imagine if you weren't a cap warrior . imagine yourself around 25 or 50. even for a warrior that item would be huge. the items i listed might not be the neatest or the most pricy but the definitely give the most advantage .

[Archigeek]

Are there any 10x TD items?

I don't think so.

[Androidpk]

The pallbearer thing carried your corpse back to town when you died?

[Methais]

This really irritates me. If an item got released, regardless of its abilities, it shouldn't be tampered with.

I agree, but I can see how certain game changes could result in an item being OP compared to its original intended limitations.

The locker staff is a good example. It's unlimited use cross realm teleport to whatever town your locker is in. With the new mover mechanics that can move your locker instantly with the express option for only like 30k, it effectively makes that item a teleport to any town instantly item.

Not that I'd be against it being that way, especially when I used to own it, but I'm just pointing out one of the rare circumstances where a nerf could be understandable.

[Ardwen]

Pallbearer grabbed dropped items from your hands and carried ya to town yes

[neimanz1]

I agree, but I can see how certain game changes could result in an item being OP compared to its original intended limitations.

The locker staff is a good example. It's unlimited use cross realm teleport to whatever town your locker is in. With the new mover mechanics that can move your locker instantly with the express option for only like 30k, it effectively makes that item a teleport to any town instantly item.

Not that I'd be against it being that way, especially when I used to own it, but I'm just pointing out one of the rare circumstances where a need could be understandable.


gah who needs this. we got premium transport

[Archigeek]

10x db is the most powerful item mechanic wise. imagine if you weren't a cap warrior . imagine yourself around 25 or 50. even for a warrior that item would be huge. the items i listed might not be the neatest or the most pricy but the definitely give the most advantage .

I disagree. Even at the level you speak of there are things I'd rather have. Not poopooing 10x db items, there are just other things I think are more powerful, particularly for a square.

[Ardwen]

I have to agree with Kerl, if there was a TD version of DB items most warriors would love that.

[neimanz1]

except for maybe an unlimited 425 item or the other spells are easily attendable. There really isn't much items that would be game changing like those 5. they are not the most expensive or epic.

[neimanz1]

I have to agree with Kerl, if there was a TD version of DB items most warriors would love that.

thats the thing you guys are talking about warriors only. I talking overall

[Archigeek]

I have to agree with Kerl, if there was a TD version of DB items most warriors would love that.

Funny you should mention that...

[Ashlander]

Gonna through in the steel katana from EG a few years ago. 4x when transformed and 9x vs undead (I think), but it has a wave attack that could bind your target regardless of level difference. Don't know if that has been changed or not since then but it worked with my level 30ish paladin against a near capped rogue in plat.

[SHAFT]

So the +47 claidh weighted mattock really was ethered?

[Fallen]

The summoning rings are also fairly amazing. Unlimited use 0 RT summoning of anyone in gold ring distance who you can trust to hold the item once. I used the SHIT out of that item when I used to play. I hope you guys see some use out of yours.

[Methais]

Maybe it's because I play a square, I don't see a 10x db as all that powerful. Desirable and cool and rare and all that yes, but in terms of power it falls short of your 10x 40 point armor by quite a bit.


The summoning rings are also fairly amazing. Unlimited use 0 RT summoning of anyone in gold ring distance who you can trust to hold the item once. I used the SHIT out of that item when I used to play. I hope you guys see some use out of yours.

Didn't that used to work cross-realm?

[Fallen]

Didn't that used to work cross-realm?

Not to my knowledge. That would be completely overpowered, heh.

[Asha]

Where are the spirit bows? The last I knew D had the longbow version but that was like 2 years ago.
Also, I know they aren't easily let go of so what would be a realistic figure to offer for any one of them (composite, short, long)?

[StrayRogue]

The crystal orb thing was amazing until it got nerfed to hell. Was it Ciston or Tsin who used that to death??

[Methais]

The crystal orb thing was amazing until it got nerfed to hell. Was it Ciston or Tsin who used that to death??

Tsin went nuts with it (and the Darkstone key) when he got it until it got nerfed.

Fun fact about the Darkstone key: Part of Tsin's payment to acquire the key was $1500, which he got from his dad after telling him he needed some books for some new college classes.

Who has the crystal ball and Darkstone key now anyway?

[Jarvan]

Tsin went nuts with it (and the Darkstone key) when he got it until it got nerfed.

Fun fact about the Darkstone key: Part of Tsin's payment to acquire the key was $1500, which he got from his dad after telling him he needed some books for some new college classes.

Who has the crystal ball and Darkstone key now anyway?

Katara has the ball, not sure if she got it directly from Tsin or not. I do know it was nerfed again after she got it.

[crb]

I think I probably have the best runestaff in game, though it depends which orbs I put in it, presently....




The harmonics generated tell you that the staff has been infused with a disrupting substance.

The staff resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
It provides a bonus of 15 to Dodging Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 72 times.
It provides a bonus of 14 to Agility.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 63 times.
It provides a bonus of 14 to Spell Aiming Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 63 times.
It provides a bonus of 15 to Dexterity.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 72 times.
The staff looks to have several charges remaining.

You sense that the illthorn staff will persist after its last enhancive charge has been expended.

No mention of shadowdeath? The ability to escape a sticky situation is pretty nice.

[Methais]

Katara has the ball, not sure if she got it directly from Tsin or not. I do know it was nerfed again after she got it.

Does anyone know how to get ahold of Katara? She supposedly has an old item of mine (a black silk bag) that I've been trying to track down for years.

What did they nerf the ball down to after she got it?

[thefarmer]

I think I probably have the best runestaff in game


.. then you get disarmed.

[crb]

.. then you get disarmed.

hasn't happened yet. I'm very careful, and the average jan needs an open roll to disarm me.

But I'm also in the camp of why own it if you don't use it. Still, if simu releases those weapon bonding potions for simucoins, I will buy them.

[Archigeek]

hasn't happened yet. I'm very careful, and the average jan needs an open roll to disarm me.

But I'm also in the camp of why own it if you don't use it. Still, if simu releases those weapon bonding potions for simucoins, I will buy them.

I am also in that camp. There will always be some risk, but what's the point of owning stuff if you're not going to use it? My bigger problem is the faults with hurling that allow you to throw weapons at lichen instead of liches, and there on the ground sits your weapon. This blows.

[SHAFT]

Tsin went nuts with it (and the Darkstone key) when he got it until it got nerfed.

Fun fact about the Darkstone key: Part of Tsin's payment to acquire the key was $1500, which he got from his dad after telling him he needed some books for some new college classes.

Who has the crystal ball and Darkstone key now anyway?

Shocking news! Tsin even hustled his own dad!

[whiteflash]

I am also in that camp. There will always be some risk, but what's the point of owning stuff if you're not going to use it? My bigger problem is the faults with hurling that allow you to throw weapons at lichen instead of liches, and there on the ground sits your weapon. This blows.

I have a background script to pick up and eat all lichen to avoid this super annoying issue.

[Archigeek]

I have a background script to pick up and eat all lichen to avoid this super annoying issue.

That is a hilarious solution. Clever too.

[SHAFT]

Where are the spirit bows? The last I knew D had the longbow version but that was like 2 years ago.
Also, I know they aren't easily let go of so what would be a realistic figure to offer for any one of them (composite, short, long)?

The three owners of the spirit bows likely won't sell. You'd have to offer all 3 obscene amounts or have another uber bow to trade. Better off getting a ton of silvers and going after the new ones. You'll have a better chance at securing a new one than an old.

Everyone has a price though.

[Drew]

The best way to acquire super nice items in Gemstone is to not want them right now.

[Sheikh]

The best way to acquire super nice items in Gemstone is to not want them right now.

I really don't want to dual wield enchantable and escorcellable blink short swords.

[Ardwen]

I use the lochaber even in invasions, barring undead or demons of course. always wear my good magical jewelry in OTF, havent been in there in years though.

[StrayRogue]

I always thought you were level 40 or something Ardwen. I can't even imagine you hunting...

[Ardwen]

hell I was well past 40 when gs4 hit

[SHAFT]

I use the lochaber even in invasions, barring undead or demons of course. always wear my good magical jewelry in OTF, havent been in there in years though.

What're the stats on your lochaber?

[Ardwen]

just a 10x mcw bastard axe

[SHAFT]

I have one of those

[Donquix]

just a 10x mcw bastard axe

http://i.imgur.com/XZMD2LC.gif

[SHAFT]

My top five items

1. 10x db item
2 seymour pouch- we know pures own gs
3. voln two handed sword- 2 handed version of the original banthis e-bow for voln master
4. brute's old incredibly maul at 5x and giantbane
5. red armor- this probably should be number #3 if more professions could use plate

Sorry for necro'ing a thread, but what exactly was the voln sword And what happened to it?

[Donquix]

Sorry for necro'ing a thread, but what exactly was the voln sword And what happened to it?

if it's a two handed version of the original ebows, basically 10x flare (every?) hit? Assuming fire cause voln.

[neimanz1]

if it's a two handed version of the original ebows, basically 10x flare (every?) hit? Assuming fire cause voln.

Yea pretty much like a 2 handed version of ebows. But I think it only reach 8x when u master voln. Haven't seen for a long time . This list probably change a lot only after less then a year because of rtcf & ensorcelling.

[doughal]

I have one of the 2 Spirit bows in Shattered, and especially there with losing weapons so much more likely due to the low population and the fact that everyone is afk, it is probably the single best weapon in the game. I'd love to have one in Prime. I'd base an entire character around one. If anyone who owns one in Prime feels like selling me one, drop me a PM.

[Khariz]

I'm digging Roblar's weapon right now. It's not necessarily the most powerful weapon in the game, but it's pretty badass. I'll let him explain if he cares to.

[Archigeek]

I agree that Roblar's axe(s) is pretty sweet. The most recent 2 rounds of CCF created some really powerful stuff. I suppose a revisit of this thread is in order because of that, so good timing on the necro! Ardwen's Lochaber axe mentioned earlier for example, is now undead bane.

[Roblar]

Thanks, I've worked hard on it over the years.

Its now +50, +35 PCW (phenomenally crit weighted), unlocked splitting

Works well with bonding, quick strike, & max TWC & MOC

[Khariz]

So put together, it is a 10x greataxe with 35 point weighting? Split apart, it is two 10x waraxes each with 35 points weighting, and BOTH return and double strike?

Edit: Oh, it's always a handaxe. Gotcha.

[Ardwen]

For every great item still around theres probably ten that are gone or as near to gone as it makes no difference, I personally am looking for something very old called the Rock of Doom, as far as I can tell its basically the first returning weapon, before there were any thrown weapons.

[waywardgs]

For every great item still around theres probably ten that are gone or as near to gone as it makes no difference, I personally am looking for something very old called the Rock of Doom, as far as I can tell its basically the first returning weapon, before there were any thrown weapons.

What else does it do?

[Thondalar]

What else does it do?

Bj's.

[Ardwen]

its a boulder you hurl, it returns, most of the time I think anyway

[Roblar]

So put together, it is a 10x greataxe with 35 point weighting. Split apart, it is two 10x waraxes each with 35 points weighting, and BOTH return and double strike.

Sick.

It's never a greataxe, handaxe base when combined as well.

[Jace Solo]

Yeah. It's pretty much endgame for a warrior. Outside of undead anyway.

Or can it still pick up undead bane? Splitting is probably a script so that slot should be open.

[Khariz]

It's never a greataxe, handaxe base when combined as well.

Ahh okay. I'm gonna edit in a question mark above. It was supposed to be a question. And the correct information.

[Ardwen]

Banes have their own slot independent from other crap, of course odds of getting it baned are rather low as Kerl can attest.

[Khariz]

Roblar has already tried at least once to get the bane on it. I think.

[Ardwen]

what amuses me most about Roblar's axe is what it started at and what it is now. been a TON of work, and a whole hell of a lot of slots to get there.

[Roblar]

what amuses me most about Roblar's axe is what it started at and what it is now. been a TON of work, and a whole hell of a lot of slots to get there.

YOU should know! :D

And don't forget silvers, a whole mess of silvers.

[Roblar]

Roblar has already tried at least once to get the bane on it. I think.

I've attempted every time its been offered. It wasn't a denial issue at that point, maybe next time :(

It was just bad luck and no one selling me their slot for 100M, fuckers!

[Candor]

I suppose my 10x waraxe with acid flares isn't going to make the top weapon list...but unlike some others I don't count my silvers in the billions...

[Ardwen]

Hey that axe was cheap, it only cost me 245k new! and a couple of visit by Fumbles back in the day, and the mediocre at best alter I had on it.

[Roblar]

Hey that axe was cheap, it only cost me 245k new! and a couple of visit by Fumbles back in the day, and the mediocre at best alter I had on it.

This is why I need undead bane, happening right now:

You assault a ghost wolf with an unrelenting fury!
The ghost wolf is enraged by Roblar's attack!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!
You swing the double-edged waraxe at the wolf, but it has no effect!

[Ardwen]

Roblar owned by ghost wolf, news at eleven!

[Khariz]

I suppose my 10x waraxe with acid flares isn't going to make the top weapon list...but unlike some others I don't count my silvers in the billions...

Hey, I think just about any 10x weapon is pretty badass. My 10x maul isn't all that special, but it gets the job done.

[Roblar]

Hey that axe was cheap, it only cost me 245k new! and a couple of visit by Fumbles back in the day, and the mediocre at best alter I had on it.

Hmm, I've done through a few alters on it but if I remember right it was an ancient black vultite waraxe

[Ardwen]

Just remember Roblar, I'm happy to take returns at a full refund of what ya paid me for it!

[Roblar]

Roblar owned by ghost wolf, news at eleven!

The Roblar Strikes Back!

You make a precise attempt to punch a ghost wolf!
You have excellent positioning against a ghost wolf.
UAF: 620 vs UDF: 111 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 98 + d100: 45 = 241
... and hit for 89 points of damage!
Strong attack separates head from shoulders.
Head disappears in the breeze as a new one forms on the ghost wolf's shoulders!
You hear a sound like a weeping child as a white glow separates itself from the ghost wolf's body as it rises, disappearing into the heavens.
The ghost wolf falls back into a heap and dies.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

[Allereli]

Roblar has already tried at least once to get the bane on it. I think.

any attempts to ensorcell via merchant?

[Roblar]

any attempts to ensorcell via merchant?

I tested it when it was 10x ecw (before rtcf) and it resists. I think there's only been the one merchant based ensorcelling but I'm not planning on attempting. I like passive ensorcelling on my armor/shield but don't like the necro flares (messaging/rp wise).

I turned down another other bane win (including Grimswarm/bandit), but will humbly take Undead!

[Roblar]

Just remember Roblar, I'm happy to take returns at a full refund of what ya paid me for it!

A big 25M! cira 90's

6x hcw fel hafter I count 9 slots since :rah:

[Methais]

My Immolate macro key.

http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/chromatix/keyboard-keys/128/asterisk-icon.png

[Ardwen]

that including lightneing? Lightening and Deepening was a ton harder to get back then so I am sure it wasn't lightened. I think I sold ya that when I got the Dag from Ciston, damned but that was ages ago.

[Roblar]

Nope, but that reminds me.

After a break I did get a lightening done and it weighed like 15 pounds. Weighting used to add weight before encumberance as you know. They standardized it but I never did go max light. a 3 lb axe just seems puny (also easier to bash boxes, and any little bit will help it it hurts future bane or weighting merchant calculations)

[Methais]

For every great item still around theres probably ten that are gone or as near to gone as it makes no difference, I personally am looking for something very old called the Rock of Doom, as far as I can tell its basically the first returning weapon, before there were any thrown weapons.

http://www.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/tyrone-biggumsdave-chapelle-psd31751.png

[SHAFT]

For every great item still around theres probably ten that are gone or as near to gone as it makes no difference, I personally am looking for something very old called the Rock of Doom, as far as I can tell its basically the first returning weapon, before there were any thrown weapons.

I'll never part with my rock! You'll have to torture me!

[Candor]

I'll never part with my rock! You'll have to torture me!

Around 15 years ago, I found a box that weighed nearly 200 pounds. Inside was...yup you guessed it...a rock. As I recall, it was about 160 pounds of the weight.

I suppose some GM had a good laugh over it.

[Lady Sylvan]

I don't have an uber special item to make you all envious. But I know Harkhan has a composite bow that fires its own arrows. That's pretty bad A$$. I think its x5 too.

As for me, I was just going to name my Vaalorn Katana once a good name came to mind. Maybe get it altered (If I even go War Mage.)

[Warriorbird]

Best item you can have in Gemstone is friends.

[Methais]

Best item you can have in Gemstone is friends.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120710171112/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/0/00/Crying-meme.png

[Geijon Khyree]

It's Jeril's Lnet skillz

[Lady Sylvan]

I must agree with "Best item you can have in Gemstone is friends." Whats the point of logging into the game if you don't have any friends to share (or enrich) your playtime with.

[waywardgs]

I must agree with "Best item you can have in Gemstone is friends." Whats the point of logging into the game if you don't have any friends to share (or enrich) your playtime with.

Pssh. Friends are for people who don't have cool toys. ;)

[JackWhisper]

Instead of friends, I got a hedgehog and a Dhu kitten. Yussss! #Insert Success Kid Meme

[Anebriated]

Instead of friends, I got a hedgehog and a Dhu kitten. Yussss! #Insert Success Kid Meme

GS version of a cat lady right there...

[Whirlin]

a veniom-inlaid deep crimson long bow strung with intricately woven ebon spidersilk

An antique vellum label secured around the grip of the long bow reads, "Ichaival: Property of Warden Whirlin N'Harren."

Two spherical depressions adorn the long bow, approximately the size and shape of a small gem. The chambers currently hold a shining hoarfrost white orb, and a muffin-marked sunset orange orb.

It has a bonus of +35 from a normal bow, and the way it vibrates in tune with your voice tells you that it requires skill in ranged weapons to use effectively.

The long bow resonates with your voice, indicating that it has been enchanted by Whirlin.
The bow resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
It provides a bonus of 13 to Spell Aiming Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 55 times.
It provides a bonus of 10 to Dexterity Bonus.
The bow looks to have quite a few charges remaining.

You sense that the long bow has 5 layers of permanent necrotic energy upon it.

[Ashlander]

a veniom-inlaid deep crimson long bow strung with intricately woven ebon spidersilk

An antique vellum label secured around the grip of the long bow reads, "Ichaival: Property of Warden Whirlin N'Harren."

Two spherical depressions adorn the long bow, approximately the size and shape of a small gem. The chambers currently hold a shining hoarfrost white orb, and a muffin-marked sunset orange orb.

It has a bonus of +35 from a normal bow, and the way it vibrates in tune with your voice tells you that it requires skill in ranged weapons to use effectively.

The long bow resonates with your voice, indicating that it has been enchanted by Whirlin.
The bow resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
It provides a bonus of 13 to Spell Aiming Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 55 times.
It provides a bonus of 10 to Dexterity Bonus.
The bow looks to have quite a few charges remaining.

You sense that the long bow has 5 layers of permanent necrotic energy upon it.

You still haven't sold that thing?

[Warriorbird]

Apart from friends I always thought that permanent totally out of circle spell items were pretty great.

[Taernath]

You still haven't sold that thing?

Can't sell something that's priceless.

[Methais]

If you view friends as items then you're not a real friend to your friends!!!!!!1

[Warriorbird]

If you view friends as items then you're not a real friend you your friends!!!!!!1

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/e0/e01e894f226ab5c22ee01fcd3cd23a2534a810830bec4c4c20 9bd1993f5b196b.jpg

[Hightower]

I don't know what's out there, but I've always felt enhancives offer the best bang for the buck over all. For the price of these wondrous items you could afford to max out several stats or skills.

[Methais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_1GDaDe90

[Geijon Khyree]

LOL. Classic!

[Archigeek]

This thread deserves a bump. Always fun to read about exotic toys.

[Luftstreitkräfte]

"a gem-encrusted morning star" pre-nerf.

basically you put a diamond in there, and it provides 0 RT permablessed swings for a good while. wearing full plate and not trained for it? 0 RT. encumbered with 1 million coins? 0 RT. it had other features like flares, weighting, etc (kind of like the chaos weapons) but those didn't matter as much.

Tabor lent this to me in 1998 after I rolled up Zentalin. He wanted it back before I was done with it, so I extended the borrowing. (pure theft)

He rolled up a warrior to steal it back from me, back when web would make your tackle defense 0. They tracked me down in Varunar and got it back, but I was done with it anyway since 302 back then was 1 shot kill and I started hunting Skeletal Lords soon after. Nanny nanny boo boo.

tl;dr I wore full plate and used a broken 0 RT star to tank 20 levels in GS3 as a cleric.

[Androidpk]

Sounds about the time when you could wear full plate, with no armor training, and have no rt penalty with voln fu.

[poloneus]

"a gem-encrusted morning star" pre-nerf.

basically you put a diamond in there, and it provides 0 RT permablessed swings for a good while. wearing full plate and not trained for it? 0 RT. encumbered with 1 million coins? 0 RT. it had other features like flares, weighting, etc (kind of like the chaos weapons) but those didn't matter as much.

Tabor lent this to me in 1998 after I rolled up Zentalin. He wanted it back before I was done with it, so I extended the borrowing. (pure theft)

He rolled up a warrior to steal it back from me, back when web would make your tackle defense 0. They tracked me down in Varunar and got it back, but I was done with it anyway since 302 back then was 1 shot kill and I started hunting Skeletal Lords soon after. Nanny nanny boo boo.

tl;dr I wore full plate and used a broken 0 RT star to tank 20 levels in GS3 as a cleric.


Just saying....

[Luftstreitkräfte]

But yeah this thread is a great read, especially Ardwen's posts. What were the meditation chimes? That's what I've been wondering.


Just saying....

Just saying what, I did something wrong when I was 14 years old? You're just mad because:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/t-77203.html

[Androidpk]

Does magic bane work on demons?

[JackWhisper]

Not that I know of, but I could be wrong.

[Luftstreitkräfte]

Not that I know of, but I could be wrong.

You are correct. Magic bane thread:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/t-84318.html

Extraplanar bane is more likely to cover demons.

[poloneus]

But yeah this thread is a great read, especially Ardwen's posts. What were the meditation chimes? That's what I've been wondering.



Just saying what, I did something wrong when I was 14 years old? You're just mad because:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/t-77203.html


I'm always torn between feeling bad for you, well because sometimes I feel bad for people as sad as you, and thinking how the world would likely be better off if you got hit by a bus. Made up stories about an alter after you paid more for an item than it was worth... all just to get it from a third party because I didn't want to have any business with someone like you? See, I mean it's hard not to feel bad for the tragedy you call your life...

[Ardwen]

Meditation chimes allowed anyone to use the old cleric meditation to absorb super fast while resting, as well I assume it helped clerics with spirit recovery though of that I am unsure

[waywardgs]

Meditation chimes allowed anyone to use the old cleric meditation to absorb super fast while resting, as well I assume it helped clerics with spirit recovery though of that I am unsure

Wow. Do they still work?

[m444w]

Wow. Do they still work?
They were on an account that got permabanned. Ardwen probably remembers the specifics of why better than I, but I seem to recall an unlimited silver bug and the pawnshop

[Candor]

They were on an account that got permabanned. Ardwen probably remembers the specifics of why better than I, but I seem to recall an unlimited silver bug and the pawnshop

Ah, that account. It's a real shame - the primary character was one of the more experienced characters at the time. I expect that account had several items that were very powerful.

[JackWhisper]

Simu would make quite a lot of bank if they would remove the permabanned account's item inventories, and set up a ticket-based grand auction.

[Silvean]

Simu would make quite a lot of bank if they would remove the permabanned account's item inventories, and set up a ticket-based grand auction.

With my luck, I'd win a tkaro root.

[JackWhisper]

An herb that you could eat and it never ran out of bites?

Hell yes, that'd be awesome.

[Gelston]

An herb that you could eat and it never ran out of bites?

Hell yes, that'd be awesome.

Pocket empath > herbs

[Fallen]

Pocket empath > herbs

True, but that logic negates a key that unlocks any box, a device which cast any normally other cast spell, etc.

[SHAFT]

Simu would make quite a lot of bank if they would remove the permabanned account's item inventories, and set up a ticket-based grand auction.

I agree. If the accounts are permabanned, who gives a shit what the owners of the accounts think or feel about it.

Perhaps simu is content with having those items locked away though. One of the few wats for item attrition.

[JackWhisper]

The thing is... is it's actually in the rules.

If you get banned/permabanned, you forfeit all rights to your account. For all intents and purposes, Simu could legally run this and make thousands of dollars. More than thousands, considering how many bitchin items we know are locked away on permabanned accounts.... The med chimes, the Kai belt, the third arm, etc. All sorts of shit could be grand auction sold for a HUGE silver drain on the game, which helps them.

[Wrathbringer]

I agree. If the accounts are permabanned, who gives a shit what the owners of the accounts think or feel about it.

Perhaps simu is content with having those items locked away though. One of the few wats for item attrition.

Yeah, unless there is some hope of reactivation, attrition is the only reason I can think of not to confiscate the items for redistribution in some way. It would truly be a treasure trove to unearth and sort. I want that job.

[JackWhisper]

Under the ownership rule, even the vague vague vague chance of an appeal wouldn't matter. If they got rid of your account, and then granted an appeal, they aren't at fault.

[SHAFT]

I'm not an expert on the belt of Kai, but aren't the encumberence potions from the store very similar? Or would stacking the belt with the potion be awesome?

[JackWhisper]

The belt was made before potions came out. They likely would stack, and thus be terribly awesome.

[Donquix]

The thing is... is it's actually in the rules.

If you get banned/permabanned, you forfeit all rights to your account. For all intents and purposes, Simu could legally run this and make thousands of dollars. More than thousands, considering how many bitchin items we know are locked away on permabanned accounts.... The med chimes, the Kai belt, the third arm, etc. All sorts of shit could be grand auction sold for a HUGE silver drain on the game, which helps them.

I like that we have to talk about this in terms of "taking" the items from the permabanned accounts instead of you know...just selling copies of said items and leaving the items alone. pretty sure no one signed a contract saying they owned the ONLY copy of the belt of kai in gemstone iv, etc. I mean, kai at least needs a brown and a black. There should be at least two.

[Androidpk]

I like that we have to talk about this in terms of "taking" the items from the permabanned accounts instead of you know...just selling copies of said items and leaving the items alone. pretty sure no one signed a contract saying they owned the ONLY copy of the belt of kai in gemstone iv, etc. I mean, kai at least needs a brown and a black. There should be at least two.

Do you think these items grow on trees??

[Astray]

Do you think these items grow on trees??

Trees? No. CYBER trees? Possibly.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Of all the items I had, I always thought the golvern plate I had was the most unbalancing and therefor the best item I had. It was incredibly crit padded, 7x IIRC full plate that weighed 10 lbs or 12 lbs I think. I added spikes to it. If I'd focused on my halfling warrior, with his never ending bandolier, that plate and all the other toys I had (10x dbs, 120, 430 items, etc), I could have easily capped him. As it was, it was so ridiculously padded it kind of made hunting him boring.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'd pretty much take anything that Ardwen valued though, he knew all about the neat stuff. Always enjoyed hanging out with him at HS. Not many nicer people, either.

[JackWhisper]

I want Plur's diaper.

[Donquix]

I want Plur's diaper.

I want what's inside.

[Androidpk]

I want what's inside.

One log to rule them all..

[Silvean]

Tough for me to distinguish "most powerful" from "coolest." Thalior's staff was impressive and I was fortunate enough to use it a few times before it was neutered.

I think Thalior's eye, Jesh's dachre box, and Kree's demon blade were my favorites back in the day.

[Silvean]

Tough for me to distinguish "most powerful" from "coolest." Thalior's staff was impressive and I was fortunate enough to use it a few times before it was neutered.

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[m444w]

The dachre box was re-released, and it is pretty neat. I owned it for awhile, I was disappointed the Werewolf dachre didn't summon an actual werewolf though.

[SHAFT]

Tough for me to distinguish "most powerful" from "coolest." Thalior's staff was impressive and I was fortunate enough to use it a few times before it was neutered.

I think Thalior's eye, Jesh's dachre box, and Kree's demon blade were my favorites back in the day.

The eye is still around and it is pretty damn cool. That and estrions key are at the top of my list.

[Androidpk]

Whatever happened to Sagan's black dragonscale armor?

[Methais]

Simmer's pallbearer item was always really cool. Not nearly as useful today as it was back then, but just on coolness alone it still wins something.

[Ardwen]

Pallbearer is one of the few items on my list I haven't owned at some point. Thingul Diamond is probably my favorite item, Sorrow is another good one.

I think the dragonscale may have been altered, however this time it wasn't Neimanz that did it

[Warriorbird]

I still like my first answer but "additional accounts" is pretty great too.

[Methais]

I still like my first answer but "additional accounts" is pretty great too.

That's like saying money is the most powerful in GS.

Which it kinda is, but still.

[Androidpk]

I think the dragonscale may have been altered, however this time it wasn't Neimanz that did it

What did he do??

[Warriorbird]

That's like saying money is the most powerful in GS.

Which it kinda is, but still.

It totally is. Friends, money, time.

[Jace Solo]

I wish you guys would explain these items or highlight them when you reference them. Some of us haven't been around 30 years.

[Androidpk]

It totally is. Friends, money, time.

Scripting skills.

[Silvean]

I wish you guys would explain these items or highlight them when you reference them. Some of us haven't been around 30 years.

The Krakiipedia list of legendary items (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Category:Legendary_Items) is a fun resource. The three items I mentioned above are all identifiable there. There is, however, no entry for the Thingul diamond and Ardwen should really write one up.


I still like my first answer but "additional accounts" is pretty great too.

I'm always a little amused at the GM hand wringing over game balance when multiaccounting has tacit approval. Do they really need to worry so much over making the 7x - 8x enchantment so difficult to achieve when people have pocket wizards and clerics?

[Ardwen]

You want me to work Silvean, I became rich in game so I didn't have to work! Diamond cast spells including elemental barrier and makes you appear batshit crazy. Its the essence of the insanity that is contained in Thingul Manor and was found therein.

[Androidpk]

>I'm always a little amused at the GM hand wringing over game balance when multiaccounting has tacit approval. Do they really need to worry so much over making the 7x - 8x enchantment so difficult to achieve when people have pocket wizards and clerics?

That is pretty ironic. There isn't much they could do about multiaccounting though, even if they wanted to

[Silvean]

You want me to work Silvean, I became rich in game so I didn't have to work! Diamond cast spells including elemental barrier and makes you appear batshit crazy. Its the essence of the insanity that is contained in Thingul Manor and was found therein.

Good start! I especially like the "essence of insanity" bit. Now, do I need to somehow wedge a typewriter under a Hearthstone rocking chair to see this finished or will you be able to do that here? We need:

1. Exactly what spells it casts and when
2. Some logs of its unique messaging
3. Its description (doesn't it have a show?)


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[Fallen]

I don't remember what I posted before, but i've always found armor with padding above masterful is pretty damn powerful. My money would be on some of the godly sets of plate out there.

[Androidpk]

I don't remember what I posted before, but i've always found armor with padding above masterful is pretty damn powerful. My money would be on some of the godly sets of plate out there.

Crit only or damage too?

[JackWhisper]

red armor old school for damage!

[Jace Solo]

I think damage padding was found to be more powerful in the hands of someone with insane redux while crit was better for everyone else. Mark or another math wiz would have to theory that out though.

And Fallen, I think that is exactly what you said before.

[Roblar]

I think damage padding was found to be more powerful in the hands of a tiny race person with insane redux while crit was better for everyone else.

Fixed :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6GqqIvfSVQ

[Jeril]

I think damage padding was found to be more powerful in the hands of someone with insane redux while crit was better for everyone else. Mark or another math wiz would have to theory that out though.

And Fallen, I think that is exactly what you said before.

It is also rather situational. I've never had padded armor and I very rarely die. There have been times where damage padding would have saved me from a death and other times where crit padding might have. In most hunting situations I'd definitely take damage padding over crit, but for invasions, where I die the most, crit padding is by far and away the better choice.

[Roblar]

Yea crit padding is likely the better of the two even for a warrior with redux (unless red armor + halfling/gnome), due to spells & manuevers that may take it into account.

I've also never worn any padded armor and have no health or crit issues to melee. Flaring armor was fine for years for sometimes stunning, knocking down, or killing them for me.

Now I'm a graduate of the Kerl School of TD on Plate, Class of 2014!

[Jeril]

Yea crit padding is likely the better of the two even for a warrior with redux (unless red armor + halfling/gnome), due to spells & manuevers that may take it into account.

I've also never worn any padded armor and have no health or crit issues to melee. Flaring armor was fine for years for sometimes stunning, knocking down, or killing them for me.

Now I'm a graduate of the Kerl School of TD on Plate, Class of 2014!

That is the direction I'll be taking with my next set of armor as well, whenever I get around to it that is.

[Roblar]

Yea by itself its just a drop but once you get a warrior with spells and/or toys it adds up to some great warding.

[Jeril]

Yea by itself its just a drop but once you get a warrior with spells and/or toys it adds up to some great warding.

I'd say even without the spells having that extra TD would be a great help. The flaring armor is certainly fun but I'd say the TD has the most mechanical benefit.

[Warriorbird]

Scripting skills.

That too. That too. A knowledge of staff behavior helps as well.

[Jace Solo]

That too. That too. A knowledge of staff behavior helps as well.

Please elaborate. :P

[Donquix]

>I'm always a little amused at the GM hand wringing over game balance when multiaccounting has tacit approval. Do they really need to worry so much over making the 7x - 8x enchantment so difficult to achieve when people have pocket wizards and clerics?

That is pretty ironic. There isn't much they could do about multiaccounting though, even if they wanted to

You have stated twice now with some incredulous comment about how for some reason it's hard to detect.

It really isn't.

they don't want to, and they shouldn't, but it isn't.

[Gelston]

You have stated twice now with some incredulous comment about how for some reason it's hard to detect.

It really isn't.

they don't want to, and they shouldn't, but it isn't.

They couldn't do much, because I'm sure they'd lose a lot of subs.

[Androidpk]

You have stated twice now with some incredulous comment about how for some reason it's hard to detect.

It really isn't.

they don't want to, and they shouldn't, but it isn't.

I don't recall mentioning it more than once. I don't care one way or another but bkw would they detect that? Seems lime it would be very easy to bypass something like that.

[Gelston]

I don't recall mentioning it more than once. I don't care one way or another but bkw would they detect that? Seems lime it would be very easy to bypass something like that.

Burger King World and limes!?!?!?

If Simu REALLY wanted to stop it, it wouldn't be hard for most. Just don't allow the same CC to be used on more than one account. Last I played, they even dropped the requirement to call in to use the same card on another account.

[Androidpk]

Stupid swipe! Foiled again.

[JackWhisper]

I think they have a couple GM's who shall not be named running douchebag patrol and scriptchecking the spellbots. I ran Waggle2 on my wiz/empath/ranger on my paladin with him Waggle2'ing himself.... the fuckin GM script checked ALL of us in the span of five seconds. Why? Because I ran Waggle2 at the thrak inn trophy room and they thought I was afk. I facepalmed because, had I not answered on everyone, I would have unsubbed any account who got a warning for fucking spelling someone up in town. Ugh the hypocrisy is so rampant lately.

Edit: In reference to their control over MAing and all that.

[Androidpk]

If they did that a person could just use a different credit/debit/giftcard.

[Gelston]

If they did that a person could just use a different credit/debit/giftcard.

They could, but that requires effort.

I think it is a little late for them to go back on what they've been allowing for years and years now though.

[Androidpk]

They could, but that requires effort.

I think it is a little late for them to go back on what they've been allowing for years and years now though.

It doesn't require any effort other than having more than one card, which I'm guessing a lot of people have.

[Gelston]

It doesn't require any effort other than having more than one card, which I'm guessing a lot of people have.

Not more than 3 for most people. And generally you'll have the same name on each card, so there is that too. Of course, they can also go off address, and I imagine IP.

[JackWhisper]

Just have a quadruple match blind.

If IP doesn't match, then...
If Address doesn't match, then...
If Name doesn't match, then...
If Bank Account doesn't match, then...

Allow.

If anyone goes through that much trouble to do alllll that... yeah.... let em MA. They'll find a way anyways.

[Androidpk]

The name would be easy to catch but IP is easy to change.

The visa/mc gift cards you can buy everywhere would certainly work.

[Gelston]

The name would be easy to catch but IP is easy to change.

The visa/mc gift cards you can buy everywhere would certainly work.

Those are easy to decline. Especially when the name on the card is "A Gift For You!".

[Androidpk]

Those are easy to decline. Especially when the name on the card is "A Gift For You!".

I don't think Simu would put a blanket ban on all gift cards.

[Gelston]

I don't think Simu would put a blanket ban on all gift cards.

I don't think they'd put a ban on MAing either.

[JackWhisper]

You didn't think Simu would put a ban on all surpriez buttsecks either!

But Jeril's gone for another month!

[Androidpk]

I could be wrong but I'm almost positive I've used a gift card before for gemstone.

[Androidpk]

You didn't think Simu would put a ban on all surpriez buttsecks either!

But Jeril's gone for another month!

Only because Simu hates competition.

[Gelston]

I could be wrong but I'm almost positive I've used a gift card before for gemstone.

Not saying they don't allow it now. Just saying that they could if they wanted to ban MAing.

[Ardwen]

Hey take you scripting whining to its own folder! Under the old redux red armor made whoever wore it essentially unkillable by any means that included a pading check if they had even half decent redux, I could take +400 hits from claids to the eye for 1 point and a 1 rnd stun, fairly sure I was responsible for a bunch of the Bregandian NPC in that invasiosn become insane spell casters when they just couldn't kill me any other way. with randomization though damage became much less amazing at that high level since a alot of the time you dont have very much of it working on you.


As for the diamond, someone will need to find logs of me with it from the early summer because i sure am not digging for them, same with the eye if ya need to see the effects from it.

[Luftstreitkräfte]

I think the problem with MAing is the lack of MA RP. Yes, you can RP with yourself. Yes, it's weird sometimes. But for example, I have some dhe'nar characters that use the Tehir pocket wizard or empath as slaves. So instead of just spelling me up or healing me, they bow submissively, call me master, etc. So you can RP it. It might not be the "omg Ardwen cuddly hearthstone steps have to know everyone from freakin 1992" traditional roleplay but it's still interesting to a lot of players I encounter. Please don't be cynical.

[Methais]

I think the problem with MAing is the lack of MA RP. Yes, you can RP with yourself. Yes, it's weird sometimes. But for example, I have some dhe'nar characters that use the Tehir pocket wizard or empath as slaves. So instead of just spelling me up or healing me, they bow submissively, call me master, etc. So you can RP it. It might not be the "omg Ardwen cuddly hearthstone steps have to know everyone from freakin 1992" traditional roleplay but it's still interesting to a lot of players I encounter. Please don't be cynical.

Clearly you're the first one to ever use the "slave" RP thing for MA'ing.

You sir, are a roleplaying grandmaster.

[Gelston]

Oh look, another stereotypical Dhe'nar.

[Fallen]

Or, you know, don't MA in public.