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Jace Solo
02-19-2013, 04:20 AM
Lvl 38 Sunfist
I plan on singing a weapon and wielding a flarer in the other hand.
So please help me optimize the build for damage output with that in mind.

35 Armor Use
80 Edge
50 TWC
39 CMan
30 MOC
38 PF
20 Dodge
38 HP
20 MC:M
33 Air Lore
18 Tele Lore
10 Climb
20 Perception

35 Bard Songs


Questions:

Bard Songs VS MnE? 1040 or start working towards 425....OR pick up 425 and lower the bard spells?

MoC VS TWC? Should I keep the 30 ranks for the extra attack or 2x TWC and fill in what's left of the MoC til it's at 2x in a few levels?

Drakefang
02-19-2013, 05:50 PM
I like what you are attempting to do. Sadly, with only 50 ranks in TWC your offhand AS will not only be limiting but your chances of hitting something will be greatly reduced because of the way TWC mechanics are setup. You won't even get to an AS/DS resolution due to simply wiffing your second attack.

I'd be inclined to drop your MoC down to 10 ranks in order to bump TWC up more. I wish I could tell you where to get the rest of your tps to make it work but for now, that would be your best bet. Losing ranks elsewhere just means you're catching up in other regards. I think the dodge is low. That's the problem with the build, 1x dodge and 2x twc are very difficult pre-level 50 or more. So until you hit your late 50's you are constantly trying to catch up.

Going less than singled in spells is an option. You might consider having 425 and 1012. 420 and 1012, even. Anything to boost TWC and dodge, IMO. I wouldn't lower anything else. If you have to play catch up and slow grow through your 40's it may just have to be that way. If you find being only .5x in dodge works, then bravo I can't see the DS generation barring a ton of outside spells. Frankly, I never saw much point in needing to go past the plateau for MoC where you can double strike and hit three critters in a room. Once you get song of Tonis, you are better off with single rapid swings over being tied into a longer RT from mstriking repeatedly. Aiming because more effective late but everyone has an opinion on that. I'd stick with bigger weapons early and switching to short swords once you get Tonis and can start shaving RT in favor of lower but faster DF. Play with is and see what you find to be best. You'll need to use your sonic in your offhand due the the impact that weight has upon the TWC RT formula.

Can't think of anything else that would impact you terribly.

Jace Solo
02-20-2013, 09:15 AM
I see the concerns. He will have wizardlies always. I was worried about being less than 2x TWC as well. I'll take a look at the spell lists and see where it lands me.

Thanks for the info.