Anyone here a tripler?

[kheldarin]

If so, can you give me your stats and training specifications? I'm sick of this low CS.

(also I'm just curious if there's a way to be a claidh-wielding sorcerer and if it's worth it)

[Boobstastegreat]

theres a way to do it...but yer gonna suck...

a claid wizard would be a different story...with haste and strength...

I heard something like CS is the ratio of your spells to your level. But if yer level 50...and you have 55 in yer sorc circle...you only get +1 CS for each rank above yer train...

But lets say you were 50 and had 40 ranks in sorc circle...every train in sorc circle gives you +3 cs...up until you reach 50.

Also, I think minor elem and minor spirit cirlces give your sorc CS +1 for each train in them...

I'm not 100% sure about all this...but it seems to hold true.

[Artha]

Tripling's not worth the points anymore.

[Syberus]

Originally posted by Boobstastegreat
theres a way to do it...but yer gonna suck...

a claid wizard would be a different story...with haste and strength...

I heard something like CS is the ratio of your spells to your level. But if yer level 50...and you have 55 in yer sorc circle...you only get +1 CS for each rank above yer train...

But lets say you were 50 and had 40 ranks in sorc circle...every train in sorc circle gives you +3 cs...up until you reach 50.

Also, I think minor elem and minor spirit cirlces give your sorc CS +1 for each train in them...

I'm not 100% sure about all this...but it seems to hold true.


I'm going to have to go ahead and drop a completely huge WTF are you talking about. The ratio you're referring to is that you can get ranks/3 up to 2/3rd your level in your other spheres before it becomes ranks/9 for those over, and you only get .5 CS per rank over your level in the primary circle.

[Blazing247]

Nope, don't bother tripling. Aim for 2.75x if you can, and maximize your lists. (overtrain base list by 10, 2/3 for the other 2)

Also, claid + sorc < claid + mage < wet noodle + warrior.

[kheldarin]

Yeah..a claidh sorc would be too good to be true. Especially with my dark elf with a base strength of 63.

[Syberus]

The cost for training in two handed weapons is the same as the cost of OHE + shield. I guess it'd be doable if you didn't mind having a crappy bolt DS (cause there's no way you could afford shield too)

[MPSorc]

runestaff sorc > claid sorc

just try to keep sorc circle at level and the other two at around 2/3 your level, isn't too hard to do, and seems to me the best for your CS

[Jonty]

Originally posted by Syberus
and you only get .5 CS per rank over your level in the primary circle.

This is not entirely correct:

Here is the closest formula we have for calculating CS.

Taken from Salt... something from the Official Sorcerer boards:


CS = (level x 3) + primary spell circle bonus + secondary spell circle 1 + secondary spell circle 2 + stat bonus

Primary spell circle bonus: (round normally)
Ranks up to level: 1CS/rank
Ranks 1-20 above level: .75CS/rank
Ranks 21-60 above level: .5CS/rank
Ranks 61-100 above level: .25CS/rank
Ranks 101 -? above level: .125CS/rank

Secondary circle bonuses: (always rounds up...this is the most common place where people mess up)
Ranks up to 2/3 level: .33333CS/rank
Ranks above 2/3 level: .111111CS/rank

The calculation of 2/3 level also rounds up.

Stat bonus:
AU for elemental casters
WI for spiritual casters
(AU+WI)/2 for sorcerers (round up)

Edited: For a sorcerer's MnS and MnE circle CS, the bonuses from the opposite circles are not added into the equation.

[Edited on 8-3-2004 by Jonty]

[Syberus]

Well I wasn't going to go into the full thing about it given the simplicity of the question at hand, and the large amount of strange wrongness answered by someone. I was aware of the diminishing returns, just didn't figure these people would give a rat's ass.

[Jonty]

Originally posted by Syberus
Well I wasn't going to go into the full thing about it given the simplicity of the question at hand, and the large amount of strange wrongness answered by someone. I was aware of the diminishing returns, just didn't figure these people would give a rat's ass.

Heh, yeah, I was sure you knew the formula(I recall you posting it on 4th demension). But I figured that wrongness should be completely corrected to the best of our knowledge, even if no one gives a rat's ass. :whistle: