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Nilandia
02-01-2013, 11:36 PM
Merchants return to the destroyed and ruined land near Ta'Illistim known as Coraesine Field.

More details to come soon!

~Aulis
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http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Quests%60Sagas%60Events/Returning%20to%20Coraesine%20Field/view/1

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I know many people have mourned the loss of CCF and have wanted it to return. Looking forward to what's in store!

Gretchen

Fallen
02-01-2013, 11:38 PM
Neat. Hope you guys have fun.

Gelston
02-02-2013, 02:03 PM
Wonder if it will be the same model as the last one.

Moonwitch
02-02-2013, 02:11 PM
Wonder if it will be the same model as the last one.


Without going into heavy details. The event will be similar to the original, in terms of being service oriented. The limited services should be pretty nice, people should feel they walked away with something good, I hope. Feel free to post suggestions though! If you don't know much about the 2009 runs, do a little research on it, plenty of info out there! But we'll post more RSN!


~Wyrom, SGM
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Gelston
02-02-2013, 02:18 PM
http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/CCF

Pretty good run down of the last one.

Nilandia
02-02-2013, 03:55 PM
You wound me, Gelston!

Other info may also be found here: http://www.nilandia.com/merchants/ccf09.htm

Gretchen

Originate
02-05-2013, 05:07 PM
looking forward to this

Roblar
02-10-2013, 07:28 PM
We're looking at Prime runs in June, August, and September. Platinum in July. But this is not set in stone as of right now. That doesn't mean it's up for debate. We're just trying to hammer it out.

While there will be shops, this will definitely not be shopping centric. It will be service centric.


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~Wyrom, SGM
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Tentative scheduling of the runs.

Originate
02-11-2013, 12:12 PM
Wow, thats further out than I expected. I was under the impression it would be in spring/ late spring.

Archigeek
02-11-2013, 02:45 PM
I was a little surprised to see they're going to run it 3x in prime.

Nilandia
02-11-2013, 04:27 PM
Well, there were three runs in Prime for the first, so it's not too terribly surprising.

Gretchen

Moonwitch
02-12-2013, 07:44 AM
I think the early warning is great but never expected that much of it. This will give us enough time to finish those half enchanted major projects and sell, trade and get stuff ready for the event. Although the dates are not set in stone yet so it might change. June seems like it is so far away, but it will be here before you know it.

Moonwitch
02-16-2013, 07:22 AM
From the officials:

Think we're all getting ahead of ourselves here.

1). I'm new at heading this team. Hi, my name is Wyrom, I enjoy long shambles in the graveyard, staring lifelessly at the living, and forever sating my hunger for brains. I also enjoy naming my NPCs after Final Fantasy characters. Communication is my strong point. I will make sure ticket info is well communicated with you before tickets go on sale. I will also make sure we have our details in before that.

2). Quantity of tickets haven't been mentioned as a hard number in this thread yet. People I think are assuming 75 tickets. It's going to be more than that, but not much more. They will be limited and they will be set to one ticket per account. No IP links. No banning households with multiple members who play. No MA cut off. You own more accounts, you can get more chances. That's just how it works. We're still in discussion how we'll be distributing them, but Premium perks are there for a reason.

3). We're working on services this time around so that we are defining MAJORs and MINORS. GALD is not a MINOR. GALD is GALD. The only difference between MAJOR and MINOR is MAJORS are limited to one per account. Minors are unlimited. The properties and abilities that are being proposed right now by some GMs are AMAZING! But MAJORs will be something worth being called a MAJOR. There are a few fluff packages in the MAJOR sections, but don't let fluff fool you. They are decent packages.

4). I'm coding something really cool.

5). I'm coding something else that's really cool.

Wyrom

Originate
03-01-2013, 10:20 AM
Teasers posted:
Tired of getting slammed by nasty spells? Have all the DS you could want but feel inadequately defended against pesky wagglers? If so, this service is for you! Five lucky winners per run will have the opportunity to add +10 TD to an existing item. This can be combined with existing TD items to a max of +20 points of TD. The final total gear bonus (enchant level plus special ability points) cannot exceed 50 points. This mean an 8x item is eligible for +10 TD, assuming it does not have an existing TD booster, but 9x and 10x items are not. For items that do have an existing TD booster, 6x items that already have 10 points of TD boost are eligible to have another 10 points added, or 7x items with +5 TD are eligible for another 10 points.

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I'll go ahead and break the ice on this whole teaser thing and offer up a few (but not all!) details about one of the many major services I will be offering at RtCF.

Padding! Glorious and amazing padding! During RtCF, I will be offering a total of 10 opportunities to receive padding on armor. "How can I acquire this padding", you must be thinking to yourself. I haven't quite finalized that part yet, but you can count on some of them being offered through raffles. I may do a few silent auctions, and it is possible I may even fish-hook one or two.

These will be considered a MAJOR win. The reason? I'll be adding the equivalent to heavy padding to armor up to the lowest rung that could be considered EXPERT padding. For example, got some heavily crit padded plate? If you win, it will become masterfully crit padded plate. Got some masterfully damage padded robes? Win and they'll be expertly padded.

Now before you ask me about fusion armor, I will tell you that approvals for armor with functional combat scripts hasn't been approved yet, and may be taken on a case by case basis.

This is just a teaser. The events aren't for months and things can change. Repeat that last line in your head a few times ;)

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Reply
There will be coraesine! Here are the details:

* Winners will be able to select the base of the weapon.
* It must be some kind of bladed weapon, and as usual, no katanas or claidhmores. LOTS of messaging references a blade, so it just won't work for blunt weapons. Sorry!
* The weapon will be permanently and irrevocably bound to the person who wins it. There will be no transferring of the prize either.
* The weapon will be +30.

There will be one MAJOR "true" or "pure" coraesine win per run, which will have the Haste, possibility for random Tornado Flares, Call Wind, Wind's Whisper, and Ball Morph abilities.
There will be two MINOR "impure" coraesine wins per run, which will have the Wind's Whisper and Ball Morph abilities.

Both flavors have Thorns of the Wind, air flares, potential double strikes, and idle messaging to show the world how neat you and your weapon are!

Coraesine is semi-sentient, and may take a while to warm up to a new owner. During this period, the weapon may be... tempestuous, including refusing to be swung, or even striking back at an owner. Once a certain level of familiarity is obtained, the weapon will cease these actions. Attunement to the weapon will lapse over time UNLESS the bond is at its absolute highest rating. Attunement is required to unlock some of the more powerful abilities.

Good luck!

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the chance for coraesine, pure or impure, has me pumped!

nocturnix
03-01-2013, 11:07 AM
So it sounds like if you have a 9x+ piece you are really hoping to get worked on, you are kinda screwed.

Allereli
03-01-2013, 11:08 AM
So it sounds like if you have a 9x+ piece you are really hoping to get worked on, you are kinda screwed.

I didn't see any enchant restriction on the padding

Jarvan
03-01-2013, 11:14 AM
Finally.. a chance for me to get my coraesine weapon.

BriarFox
03-01-2013, 11:14 AM
Yeah, the restriction is for DS/TD totals. They keep changing their minds on that.

BriarFox
03-01-2013, 11:16 AM
* The weapon will be permanently and irrevocably bound to the person who wins it. There will be no transferring of the prize either.
Should emphasize that. Lots of people will be entering the raffles who aren't able to use coraesine well otherwise.

Originate
03-01-2013, 11:26 AM
Yea, I really hope one is auctioned, I would pay nicely to get a coraesine weapon for my new bard. I would also lose my shit if someone wins who can't use it, like at the last auction....

Sile
03-01-2013, 11:40 AM
I would also love to get one of the weapons. But I still feel the older "impure" are better. The ones that are not bonded to the user.

Archigeek
03-01-2013, 01:23 PM
Yeah, the restriction is for DS/TD totals. They keep changing their minds on that.

Yeah I complained about that moving target on the officials and got the "what we have approval for is not likely to change" response. You'd think they were carving in stone instead of a text game. Basically none of my TD gear is eligible. Apparently TD bonuses are game breaking but expert padding isn't.

Moonwitch
03-01-2013, 02:14 PM
I know I said I'd release more teasers as time passed, but I've been having too much fun playing with this... In the spirit of a great tease:

You are holding a tenebrous black scaled gauntlet in your right hand.

>wear gauntlet
A faint pulse of shadowy black energy shimmers around the black scaled gauntlet as you slide it over your left hand.

>raise gauntlet
You raise your clenched fist above your head, causing crackling arcs of shadowy black energy to streak forth from either end of your black scaled gauntlet. The energy quickly stabilizes, forming a shadowy black bow centered on your left hand.

Your shadowy black bow pulses softly.

>fire
You draw back on the force between the limbs of your bow, drawing upon your power to create a crackling shadowy black bolt of energy.
You fire a crackling shadowy black bolt of energy at a fire mage!
AS: +373 vs DS: +155 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +14 = +266
... and hit for 77 points of damage!
Blow shatters knee and severs lower leg!
A fire mage screams and falls to the ground!
The bolt of energy dissipates into tiny shadowy black particles.

>clench gauntlet
As you tighten your grip around a crackling shadowy black composite bow, you feel a sudden rush of power surge through your left arm, demolishing the damping force within the conduit connecting you to the bow! You feel the power begin to siphon away the very essence of your life!

Your life essence continues to drain away into the shadowy black bow!

>fire
You draw back on the force between the limbs of your bow, drawing upon your power to create a crackling shadowy black bolt of energy.
You fire a crackling shadowy black bolt of energy at a fire mage!
AS: +448 vs DS: +89 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +70 = +463
... and hit for 139 points of damage!
Deft strike to the back cracks vertebrae!


** Your bolt of energy suddenly bursts, scattering into particles of shadowy black plasma! **
... 30 points of damage!
The fire mage's eye blackens and pops leaving a smoking hole behind!

Erratic fibers of shadowy black essence dance their way up and down the insubstantial form of your bow.

>drop bow
Overexerted from the enormous surge of power through your left arm, you feel your muscles scream with pain, accompanied by a number of shattered bones! Crackling bands of shadowy black energy flow down the limbs of your shadowy black bow as they recede into the confines of your black scaled gauntlet.



... details forthcoming!

QORTAZ

I so want this!

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 02:28 PM
You and everyone else :D

Buckwheet
03-01-2013, 02:30 PM
If it auctions expect at least 300m, if it raffles and is sold, I would say 400m or more especially if they(the seller) take cash.

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 02:35 PM
That would go well with the armor I recently bought. No mention of the type of bow eh?

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 02:37 PM
Why would it shoot bolts and not arrows?

Buckwheet
03-01-2013, 02:38 PM
Don't those fire mages wear full leather equiv? So it would be a composite bow?

Moonwitch
03-01-2013, 02:45 PM
Why would it shoot bolts and not arrows?

I don't know? Magical bolts of energy would be my guess. Not magical arrows of energy. Either way, pretty sweet item. <sigh> NO way I can afford it unless it is raffled and I get extremely lucky.

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 02:46 PM
The uska ranger lightning bow shoots bolts of pure energy. Not sure why but that is a lot cooler than arrows

I'd be interested in a spirit composite or long bow. Don't think I'd pay the price for a short though. It'd have to be a great value, but someone would overpay most likely.

m444w
03-01-2013, 04:17 PM
Fairly sure fire mages are in robes... but it has been awhile since I hunted them

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 04:20 PM
Can't be robes, no ranged weapon has an AvD of 34 against them.

Jarvan
03-01-2013, 04:52 PM
These bows are insanely nice if they are like the original. The fact that they are shadowy tho, I have a feeling they may be the opposite of the original. Maybe double flares on living in god mode.

I could see 300 mill easy for them.

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 04:58 PM
I imagine they'll be releasing at least one of the bows for each run. Probably a short, long, and composite.

That's pretty sweet we'll have a chance at 3 new glove bows if that holds true.

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 04:59 PM
I looked into my magic crystal 8 ball and it told me that Speaker will be winning all 3.

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 05:00 PM
Then we're all screwed

Jarvan
03-01-2013, 05:04 PM
I imagine they'll be releasing at least one of the bows for each run. Probably a short, long, and composite.

That's pretty sweet we'll have a chance at 3 new glove bows if that holds true.

No, I expect 2 maximum. 3 seems a little extreme. specially when you pair it up to 1 pure 2 impure coraesine's.

If they do do 3, that will make 12 total. 3 originals and 9 new ones. Pretty nuts.

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 05:06 PM
No I'm saying only 1 bow for each run. So 3 total released this CCF

They have to do one for each run minimum. That gives everyone in each of the 3 CCF runs a shot at these. But then again this is Simu and they've dropped the customer service and logic balls numerous times in the past.

Lets be real though, speaker already owns them. It's just a matter of time. Le sigh

Allereli
03-01-2013, 05:11 PM
I imagine they'll be releasing at least one of the bows for each run. Probably a short, long, and composite.

That's pretty sweet we'll have a chance at 3 new glove bows if that holds true.

I don't think that'll happen, I think the bow(s) for each run will be the same

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 05:12 PM
Yeah, definitely 1 per run. If they announced they would only being doing it on run X then people would revolt in mass.

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 05:18 PM
I don't think that'll happen, I think the bow(s) for each run will be the same

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll be short bows!

If I were coding these and in charge, that's what would happen. 1 short, 1 composite, 1 long. That's how it was done last time and that's what makes sense.

If the GM doing these is cool as shit he'll do 3 longbows.

Moonwitch
03-01-2013, 05:19 PM
Lastest teaser



We are going to add some weighting!

The winners of this service will be able to add a heavy amount of weighting, or an equivalent added to an already existing amount of weighting of the same kind. This service will be capped at an expert level of weighting on any particular weapon.

Weighting can only be added to melee weapons with no other special abilities (ie: flares and warding defense). Scripts that only have "fluff" actions do not count as a special ability. Scripts that provide a mechanical advantage of any kind DO count as a special ability.

Melee weapons include gloves and boots used with the Unarmed Combat System.

-Marstreforn-
Icemule Trace Guru
Halfling Guru

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 05:31 PM
The logical way to release the glove bows is auction. The people bidding are bidding because they want them. If you raffle it anyone can win and most likely it'll put up for auction on the PC. It shall be interesting.

Archigeek
03-01-2013, 05:31 PM
Another set of restrictions that blows. What the hell? Basically if you have anything that isn't plain jane you can't do anything with it. Now I'm just waiting for the enchant restrictions: "if your item has any scripts, it does not qualify."

BriarFox
03-01-2013, 05:38 PM
"Any mechanical advantage" includes fusion. ... Ugh.

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 05:39 PM
Another set of restrictions that blows. What the hell? Basically if you have anything that isn't plain jane you can't do anything with it. Now I'm just waiting for the enchant restrictions: "if your item has any scripts, it does not qualify."

These are normal restrictions though, no surprise there.

Jarvan
03-01-2013, 05:39 PM
Another set of restrictions that blows. What the hell? Basically if you have anything that isn't plain jane you can't do anything with it. Now I'm just waiting for the enchant restrictions: "if your item has any scripts, it does not qualify."

So you want to add heavy weighting to say a returning hurler? or something with the string added to it? I'd say the first should be doable, but not the second.

Archigeek
03-01-2013, 05:45 PM
These are normal restrictions though, no surprise there.

Not really. They've added weighting to fusion items before. Generally the normal restrictions are no crossing streams. IE: no weighting on a flaring item etc.

As for strung weapons not qualifying. I already have one with weighting.

DaCapn
03-01-2013, 06:07 PM
The logical way to release the glove bows is auction. The people bidding are bidding because they want them. If you raffle it anyone can win and most likely it'll put up for auction on the PC. It shall be interesting.

I have to disagree on basically every point.

If it is raffled and shows up for auction, anyone who wants it can still get it (even more people even, if someone couldn't make it to CCF but really wanted it). If it goes up for auction, not everyone who wants it has a chance to get it (I'll volunteer myself as an example of someone would would really like to have one but doesn't have anywhere near 400mil). And not everyone who bids necessarily wants it for the sake of having the item (they may just as easily see it as a money-making or trade-leveraging opportunity).

I hope they let us know what the release format of items are. I'd like to go if there will be a lot of raffles, but if there's going to be a ton of auctions, I'd probably skip it.

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 06:10 PM
Just because someone cannot afford to bid hundreds of millions of silvers on an item does not mean they don't want it. I'm hoping that something like this is raffled off.

neimanz1
03-01-2013, 06:11 PM
last time for every raffle they had an auction one too . The major ones at least It work out pretty well

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 06:12 PM
last time for every raffle they had an auction one too . The major ones at least It work out pretty well

This is a good way of doing it.

Jarvan
03-01-2013, 06:12 PM
I have to disagree on basically every point.

If it is raffled and shows up for auction, anyone who wants it can still get it (even more people even, if someone couldn't make it to CCF but really wanted it). If it goes up for auction, not everyone who wants it has a chance to get it (I'll volunteer myself as an example of someone would would really like to have one but doesn't have anywhere near 400mil). And not everyone who bids necessarily wants it for the sake of having the item (they may just as easily see it as a money-making or trade-leveraging opportunity).

I hope they let us know what the release format of items are. I'd like to go if there will be a lot of raffles, but if there's going to be a ton of auctions, I'd probably skip it.

This is why there should be two each run. 1 auction, 1 raffle.

Then again, since the only item I want is auto bonded to the char that wins it, why shouldn't the bows be as well, hmm?

got this neg rep..


Thread: Returning to Coraesine Field

Bonding is bad

No shit, that's why I wish the Coraesine wasn't bonded. But I don't see the point of having ONLY those items bonded when everything else isn't. I will technically have 1 shot at each of the three, and very likely won't win any. Whereas the glove bows everyone will have a shot at. if there is a raffle for one, everyone will enter, with 75%+ looking to resell. Can't resell something bonded.

Either things like this should always be bonded, or never bonded.

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 06:14 PM
Because the bow gloves aren't made of pure coraesine, that's why. I forget which GM stated it but basically the reason why pure coraesine attunes is because the metal is basically sentient.

Ardwen
03-01-2013, 06:15 PM
Why do I see archery in my future

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 06:19 PM
If the glove bows are raffled, they'll likely end up here in the high end section. Of course someone could win and actually use it, or win it and create a new character to use it, but most likely someone will win and see dollar signs.

The way around that is to attune the bow to the character like the pure coraesine.

For the record, I like jarvan's idea. 6 glove bows are better than 3.

Jarvan
03-01-2013, 06:27 PM
Because the bow gloves aren't made of pure coraesine, that's why. I forget which GM stated it but basically the reason why pure coraesine attunes is because the metal is basically sentient.

Yeah, I understand the reason why the attune. My problem is the only item I want is attuned, limited, and next to impossible to get. Now there will be at least 6, more likely 9 glove bows roaming around.

If they ever have a simucoin store for GS, they better damn well make a potion to unbond stuff.

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 06:30 PM
There is nothing wrong with people flipping an item though. Welcome to capitalism. If you REALLY want an item then you stand a much better chance of the item NOT being bonded.

Jarvan
03-01-2013, 06:33 PM
There is nothing wrong with people flipping an item though. Welcome to capitalism. If you REALLY want an item then you stand a much better chance of the item NOT being bonded.

Here is my point. Make it a damn certificate, require the person redeem it within 5 days. Problem solved. Let it bond at THAT point.

And I do really want an Item. But like I pointed out, the one I want is bonded, no secondary market. Oh well, just have to save up more silver.

Archigeek
03-01-2013, 06:39 PM
I liked the one raffle/one auction format too.

Moonwitch
03-01-2013, 06:42 PM
Why do I see archery in my future


Why does this make me cringe?

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 06:43 PM
Here is my point. Make it a damn certificate, require the person redeem it within 5 days. Problem solved. Let it bond at THAT point.




I'm confused. Why would letting the item bond once they turn in solve the problem? They'd still be able to sell the certificate? Not to mention Simu doesn't like doing certificates.

Androidpk
03-01-2013, 06:43 PM
Why does this make me cringe?

Don't worry, he also saw an airship in his future once too ;)

Donquix
03-01-2013, 06:44 PM
I liked the one raffle/one auction format too.

I agree. As a GS pauper I have no problems with people with more resources being able to use those in game, and it's a great silverdrain that the economy really needs. But it's still nice to have some chance at the nice things. This is the best compromise. It is a real kick in the nuts though when one of the people who could easily afford to buy the things in the auction/secondary market win a raffle :D

I do also agree with the complaints about inconsistent bonding. In game explanations of it (i.e. it's sentient) are silly. That is a choice to explain the bonding mechanics behavior, and it could easily be explained away through lore/mechanics (like a penalty when "bonding" to someone new). It should be either all items over a certain perceived value bond or none do. Consistency is really simu's forte though. Which way is best though, is a more complicated discussion.

Ardwen
03-01-2013, 06:45 PM
Yes but apparently the glove actually exists, and the useless shit Auchand clearly has nothing to do with it

SHAFT
03-01-2013, 07:33 PM
I'm all for capitalism. I actually have a better chance to get one if people bring it here to sell. I'm just happy they're making more.

I too favor the auction/raffle format.

Moonwitch
03-02-2013, 07:07 AM
Having a hard time hitting the broad side of a barn? Wish you were better at aiming? If you answered yes, then this is the service for you!

Five lucky winners can have +10 sighting added to their bow, up to a maximum of 30 points. That means if your bow is plain right now, you'll bring it up to sephwir level of sighting at 10. Meanwhile, if you already have that level of sighting, you'll be able to double it (bringing 10 points of sighting up to 20.) And so on!

Combat scripts may require additional approvals. Additional restrictions may be forthcoming. Sighting will be a MAJOR win at this year's event.

~Just Jainna

Sweet service. Someone go buy Kastrel's sephwir composite now. It hurts me to see it get no love at all.

Moonwitch
03-02-2013, 07:15 AM
ASG Changes will be a MAJOR SERVICE at this year's Return to Coraesine Field.

The following details will not be changed regarding the service (99.999999999% certain):

1.) Armor can be changed from cloth to soft leather, or soft leather to cloth. Outside that leather must stay leather, metal must stay metal.

Possible Examples -
Light leathers (ASG 5) can move up to brigandine (ASG 12). Vice-versa.
Chainmail (ASG 13) can move up to metal breastplate (ASG 17).

2.) Items will retain the exact same properties on the former armor (including lightening).

3.) Combat Scripts may require additional approval.


Wyrom reserves the right to correct this info and/or offer further details.


~Aulis
Forums Manager
QC'er

They say major win because you can take all leather to all leather or all metal to all metal and last time as a minor you had to stay soft leather to soft leather and the like.

You can take light to brig. That's a big jump.

Kastrel
03-02-2013, 07:29 AM
Sweet service. Someone go buy Kastrel's sephwir composite now. It hurts me to see it get no love at all.

That sucker got traded. I'm not displeased with the outcome.

Moonwitch
03-02-2013, 07:39 AM
That sucker got traded. I'm not displeased with the outcome.

I am happy to see it got a good home. Had I not been saving for CCF I would have been tempted.

Nilandia
03-08-2013, 07:39 PM
In case anyone should be interested, I've started a wiki page on this event on GSGuide. I'll be posting stuff there as I get it, including teased services and other information like ticket sales. There's a place at the bottom to leave comments, so feel free to drop a line if you see anything that could use some improvement! It's still a work in progress, of course, so there's always some place where it can be better.

http://gsguide.wikia.com/wiki/Return_to_Coraesine_Field

Gretchen