Kerry Timeline - Iraq

[Hulkein]

http://media1.stream2you.com/rnc/072304v2.wmv


Video made by the GOP chronicling his stances on war throughout the past decade.

[Parkbandit]

I just can't wait to hear his speech tonight.. where he FINALLY gives some details about his platform. Hopefully, he will make some sort of stand that he cannot back out of tomorrow when it's not as popular.

[Wezas]

The only thing I'll say about that video:

Jesus, would be nice if they supplied a bit more of each video. Hell one they took it so out of context he was halfway through the syllable.

[Numbers]

Originally posted by Wezas
The only thing I'll say about that video:

Jesus, would be nice if they supplied a bit more of each video. Hell one they took it so out of context he was halfway through the syllable.


No they didn't.

I think that the amount th

[Prestius]

Gee Golly! What about Bush's morphing rationale for the War?

http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10143

War Rationale: Version 10.0

In the year since the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration has repeatedly shifted its justification for going to war and constantly changed its story on intelligence, the United Nations, reconstruction, political transition and the cost to the American taxpayer. More than anything, the administration's war in Iraq resembles a software program that, at first, works brilliantly, but then catches the user in a cycle of "fatal error" messages.

Here then, in Silicon Valley terms, is a review of the Bush administration's year in Iraq:

Saddam Hussein poses an 'imminent threat' to the American people.

* Version 1.0 - Saddam Hussein is an imminent threat
* Version 1.01 - Saddam Hussein is a gathering threat
* Version 1.02 - Saddam Hussein poses a real and dangerous threat
* Version 1.1 - The smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud
* Version 1.2 - We can't afford to wait
* Version 1.3 - We never said imminent
* Version 1.3.1 - OK, maybe we did say it once or twice
* Version 1.4 - We should have been more precise

Saddam Hussein is ready to use weapons of mass destruction.

* Version 2.1 - Saddam has weapons of mass destruction
* Version 2.2 - Saddam has nuclear weapons
* Version 2.3 - Saddam has biological agents he's never accounted for
* Version 2.3.1 - The trailers are mobile labs for producing chemical weapons
* Version 2.3.2 - Unmanned aircraft are ready to spread Saddam's biological weapons
* Version 2.4 - Saddam's going to make more of all these weapons
* Version 2.5 - We all know where the weapons are
* Version 2.5.1 - Well, Saddam has used weapons of mass destruction
* Version 2.5.2 - Iraq is a big country. We'll find the weapons eventually.
* Version 2.5.3 - Saddam had weapons of mass destruction programs
* Version 2.5.4 - Saddam had "weapons of mass destruction program-related activities"
* Version 2.5.5 - David Kay? Who's David Kay?
* Version 2.6 - It's not about misleading the American people—Saddam Hussein is gone and that's the most important thing

The intelligence is clear.

* Version 3.0 - We based our statements on our available intelligence
* Version 3.1 - Saddam tried to buy uranium ore in Niger
* Version 3.1.2 - Well, that was what the British told us
* Version 3.1.3 - Did we tell you about Joe Wilson's wife?
* Version 3.1.4 - Do you know a good lawyer?
* Version 3.2 - The intelligence is absolutely clear
* Version 3.2.1 - Intelligence is never 100 percent certain
* Version 3.2.2 - We didn't manipulate the intelligence
* Version 3.3 - There was no consensus within the intelligence community
* Version 3.3.1 - We saw the same intelligence the last administration did

Saddam Hussein has deep ties to Al Qaeda.

* Version 4.0 - Saddam has long-standing ties to Al Qaeda
* Version 4.0.1 - You can't distinguish between Saddam and Al Qaeda
* Version 4.0.2 - There is an Al Qaeda terrorist network in Iraq
* Version 4.0.3 - Saddam has provided Al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training.
* Version 4.0.4 - Saddam will give his weapons to Al Qaeda
* Version 4.0.5 - Colin Powell: I have not seen smoking-gun, concrete evidence about the connection [between Al Qaeda and Iraq]
* Version 4.0.6 - Vice President Cheney: I still believe there's a connection.
* Version 4.0.7 - CIA Director George Tenet: I told Dick not to say that.

The United Nations just can't handle this.

* Version 5.0 - The UN had 12 years to deal with this
* Version 5.1 - We don't trust the UN to handle this
* Version 5.1.1 - We don't need the UN's help
* Version 5.1.2 - The UN should play a vital, but not central role
* Version 5.1.3 - You there, UN, tell Ayatollah Sistani that elections aren't possible
* Version 5.1.4 - UN, please oversee the election process
* Version 5.1.5 - Pretty please? We'll pay our dues

The war in Iraq won't hurt our efforts in Afghanistan or the hunt for bin Laden.

* Version 6.0 - Iraq won't affect our hunt for bin Laden
* Version 6.1 - Assets have been moved from Afghanistan to Iraq
* Version 6.1.1 - Assets are being returned to Afghanistan
* Version 6.2 - We're mounting a spring offensive against bin Laden
* Version 6.2.1 - We'll catch bin Laden this year
* Version 6.2.2 - We hope to catch bin Laden this year
* Version 6.3 - Even if we catch bin Laden, the threat will still exist.

Mission accomplished.

* Version 7.0 - We won't need hundreds of thousands of troops—that's wildly off the mark
* Version 7.1 - Mission accomplished
* Version 7.1.1 - We'll stay as long as needed and not one day more
* Version 7.1.2 - The troops will be home in six months
* Version 7.1.3 - The Iraqi Army will provide security
* Version 7.1.4 - Where's the Iraqi Army?
* Version 7.1.5 - We've disbanded the Iraqi Army
* Version 7.1.3 - The troops will stay a year and be replaced
* Version 7.2 - We're training the Iraqi army—Iraqification will work
* Version 7.2.1 - We don't need any more American troops
* Version 7.2.2 - Well, maybe we do
* Version 7.2.3 - We're keeping 30,000 more troops on active duty than were authorized
* Version 7.2.4 - We don't know if this increase in troops is a spike or a plateau
* Version 7.2.5 - We're establishing stop loss so troops can't leave
* Version 7.2.6 - The Army is planning multi-year rotations

The cost to the American taxpayer.

* Version 8.0 - Economic advisor Larry Lindsey: The war will cost $200 billion
* Version 8.0.1 - President Bush: You're fired!
* Version 8.1 - The war will pay for itself very quickly
* Version 8.1.1 - Iraqi oil revenue will pay for reconstruction
* Version 8.2 - Our allies will help us
* Version 8.3 - We'll pay for the war through supplementals
* Version 8.3.1 - Congress wouldn't let us put it in the budget
* Version 8.3.2 - Can we please have $87 billion?
* Version 8.3.3 - Well, we really can't calculate what it will cost...
* Version 8.3.4 - Well, maybe we can—$50 billion may be on the low side
* Version 8.3.5 - Ask us after November 2...

Democracy comes to Iraq.

* Version 9.0 - We will be greeted as liberators
* Version 9.0.1 - We'll establish democracy in Iraq
* Version 9.1 - We'll turn this back to the Iraqis quickly
* Version 9.1.1 - President Chalabi will be welcomed with open arms
* Version 9.1.2 - Well, not so fast—we're prohibiting political parties
* Version 9.2 - We have the November 15 agreement—it's unchangeable
* Version 9.2.1 - We will appoint a small governing council
* Version 9.2.2 - Well, maybe a larger one
* Version 9.3 - We don't favor elections
* Version 9.3.1 - Caucuses work in Iowa, why not Iraq?
* Version 9.3.2 - OK fine, we'll have elections
* Version 9.4 - We can't return sovereignty until there is a constitution
* Version 9.4.1 - Never mind, we'll turn over sovereignty first
* Version 9.4.2 - We need to return this to the Iraqis—How about June 30?
* Version 9.4.3 - We're still focused on elections—the ones on November 2

The bottom line.

* Version 10.0 - Trust us. We know what we're doing.

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[Hulkein]

That wasn't very moving for me.

They were still solid on the broader issues of war. I don't really care if they switched from Caucuses to regular elections or not.

[Parkbandit]

I LOVE how you call it "Bush's". I'm also glad that Kerry and Edwards had NOTHING to do with the decision.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Ilvane]

:talktohand:

I can just say one thing..the GOP is getting worried, so they come out swinging. It's funny how the take things out of context, huh?

-A

[Hulkein]

Yes we know Ilvane, when there is something that proves how utterly pathetic your only option is you tell people to talk to the hand and chalk it up to anxiety from the GOP. God forbid they do their jobs and expose Kerry for what he is.

--At a speech to GM exec--

I LOVE TEH SUVZ


--At a speech to people who hump trees--

How dare people waste energy with SUVS!


--Later--
"Mr. Kerry, you stated you own SUVs in one appearence, then condemned them saying you don't own any in the next."

"uhhh... yes.. You see, my FAMILY owns them, I just drive them."


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This is the guy I want running the country, let me tell you!


And just for good measure ....

[peam]

Do you REALLY want to start a dumb picture contest?

[Hulkein]

lol, I just cracked up when I saw his attempt at catching a football. It looks like someone tossed him a diaper full of loose shit and he just saw it at the last second.

I'm aware Bush has some bad pictures but I haven't seen any showing ineptitude at anything rivaling this one.

[Edited on 7-29-2004 by Hulkein]

[kheldarin]

http://www.ihatejohnkerry.net/whodoyouwant.jpg

[Hulkein]

hahahahahahaha

[Wezas]

http://www.ssqq.com/ssqq/images/george_bush_pretzel.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Ilvane
:talktohand:

I can just say one thing..the GOP is getting worried, so they come out swinging. It's funny how the take things out of context, huh?

-A

Really? I think so far, everything is going TOO good for them. Thank god it's Kerry that was nominated.

So much for a traditional 10 point bump after the convention.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
where he FINALLY gives some details about his platform. Hopefully, he will make some sort of stand that he cannot back out of tomorrow when it's not as popular. To me, this is his last chance. I've been leaning Bush for a lil while now, and if Kerry totally muffs it tonight, it's a lock.

I really freaking wish that Senator Biden guy that was on TDS last night was running. :(:(:(:(

[Blazing247]

ROFL! That picture is priceless. Yes Hulk, that's definitely what it looks like.