Story of Manti Te'o's girlfriend's death turns out to be a hoax

[WRoss]

Figured this deserved its own thread.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8851033/story-manti-teo-girlfriend-death-apparently-hoax


SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Notre Dame says a story about Manti Te'o's girlfriend dying, which he said inspired him to play better as he helped the Fighting Irish get to the Discover BCS National Championship game, turned out to be a hoax apparently perpetrated against the linebacker.

The university issued a news release Wednesday after Deadspin.com reported it could find no record of Lennay Kekua existing.

The university says Notre Dame coaches were informed by Te'o and his parents on Dec. 26 that Te'o had been the victim of what appeared to be a hoax. Someone using a fictitious name "apparently ingratiated herself" with Te'o, the school said, then conspired with others to lead him to believe she had died of leukemia.

http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax


Manti Te'o did lose his grandmother this past fall. Annette Santiago died on Sept. 11, 2012, at the age of 72, according to Social Security Administration records in Nexis. But there is no SSA record there of the death of Lennay Marie Kekua, that day or any other. Her passing, recounted so many times in the national media, produces no obituary or funeral announcement in Nexis, and no mention in the Stanford student newspaper.

Nor is there any report of a severe auto accident involving a Lennay Kekua. Background checks turn up nothing. The Stanford registrar's office has no record that a Lennay Kekua ever enrolled. There is no record of her birth in the news. Outside of a few Twitter and Instagram accounts, there's no online evidence that Lennay Kekua ever existed.

The photographs identified as Kekua—in online tributes and on TV news reports—are pictures from the social-media accounts of a 22-year-old California woman who is not named Lennay Kekua. She is not a Stanford graduate; she has not been in a severe car accident; and she does not have leukemia. And she has never met Manti Te'o.

I'm curious why if this was known about before the NCG, nothing was said of it. Way to go Notre Dame publicity team. Nothing like compromising your tradition of ethics and morals.

[Drew]

Such a weird story.

[Latrinsorm]

Is the weirdest part that he bought it? What kind of American doesn't know that 120% of the women online aren't real.

[WRoss]

Is the weirdest part that he bought it? What kind of American doesn't know that 120% of the women online aren't real.

I'm pretty sure he crafted this story and is just in fall out mode now.

[Warriorbird]

LOL. Wow.

[Parkbandit]

I'm pretty sure he crafted this story and is just in fall out mode now.

Exactly this.

What a fuck up.

[Buckwheet]

That is one of the strangest stories I have read in a really long time. I just am not buying it.

[Atlanteax]

I do not understand why ND's athletic director would get himself involved to this extent:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1488402-notre-dame-ad-jack-swarbrick-addresses-manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax-in-presser?hpt=hp_c2


Notre Dame is not backing down from its original statement on the issue, and will apparently continue to pursue the truth in this case until a perpetrator is discovered and punished for trying to tarnish Te'o's name.

So what is Jack Swarbrick, who apparently cried on Manti Te'o presser ("Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick now crying on Manti Te'o presser." ~ Bruce Feldman) ... going to do, should it ultimately be revealed that Te'o had a role in the hoax?

It is one thing to investigate to the extent of determining if there were NCAA violations ... but this seems to be staking a portion of the school's reputation on Te'o.

[WRoss]

So, of everything I've heard of this, the thing that makes the most sense is that he is gay and made a story about his girlfriend, which spun out of control. Either that, or he's incredibly dumb.

[Methais]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/530575_10151345945268486_1090640163_n.jpg

[Atlanteax]

Now Te'o-ing is a 'thing'

http://teoing.tumblr.com/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/7a707a1270cfb098b70d9806bdf0fe7d/tumblr_mgqx0sw7qT1s3b9u6o1_500.jpg

[Keller]

I'm pretty sure he crafted this story and is just in fall out mode now.

If you're right (which I think you're dead wrong), it would make him the single most fucked up person in the history of people. To be as devoutly religious and emotionally vulnerable as he has been, and have it all be a giant lie, would take a special kind of sociopath.

[Warriorbird]

Ouch.


The debate among teammates wasn't whether or not Manti actually knew this girl - it was clear that they had been in contact; no, players just didn't think that it was fair to call Lennay Kekua Manti's girlfriend, period (it is well-known on campus that he has had relations with other girls during his time at Notre Dame). They recognized what was going on for what it was - a terrible publicity stunt used to fuel Manti Te'o's Heisman campaign. In fact, many of the players privately commented that they didn't want the students to wear leis in support of Manti and wouldn't participate themselves - they cited that the team never responded so publicly to tragic events for other players. But there was also the feeling that Manti didn't deserve to benefit from publicity from the death of somebody he barely knew.

[Atlanteax]

I saw that too WB, and it probably should be highlighted more.

[Tisket]

To be as devoutly religious and emotionally vulnerable as he has been, and have it all be a giant lie, would take a special kind of sociopath.

Hellooo....Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart and Ted Haggard.

[Warriorbird]

I saw that too WB, and it probably should be highlighted more.

It seems more believable than a lot of the other stuff out there. People have done crazier stuff for awards.

[WRoss]

If you're right (which I think you're dead wrong), it would make him the single most fucked up person in the history of people. To be as devoutly religious and emotionally vulnerable as he has been, and have it all be a giant lie, would take a special kind of sociopath.

Even if I'm wrong, he still lied on numerous occasions. His family lied on numerous occasions. He said he met the girl, the family said they met her, but now he's claiming that he never met her and had only an on-line relationship with her. And, on top of all of that, ND scooted this under the rug for three weeks and blew it up in the face of the ND campus police brushing the 2 sexual assaults by football players under the rug. Way to go ND.

[thefarmer]

If you're right (which I think you're dead wrong), it would make him the single most fucked up person in the history of people. To be as devoutly religious and emotionally vulnerable as he has been, and have it all be a giant lie, would take a special kind of sociopath.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/1/17/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14466-1358442557-5.gif


"The greatest trick Manti ever pulled was convincing the world she did exist."

[Drew]

Ouch.

Deadspin does have an issue with not quoting or sourcing anything but still printing it. I'm starting to lean more towards he didn't know he was real. I think his lies were because he didn't want to admit he had an e-girlfriend which would have embarrassed him.

[Keller]

Deadspin does have an issue with not quoting or sourcing anything but still printing it. I'm starting to lean more towards he didn't know he was real. I think his lies were because he didn't want to admit he had an e-girlfriend which would have embarrassed him.

Pretty much.

The fact is that Manti is either a sociopath or a moron. In either case he doesn't look great.

[Latrinsorm]

I would lean towards the "he's in on it" but it's just so bizarre. What about that testimonial from whatever (unrelated?) NFL player that was, who claimed to have met her? Just weirder and weirder.

[Keller]

Even if I'm wrong, he still lied on numerous occasions. His family lied on numerous occasions. He said he met the girl, the family said they met her, but now he's claiming that he never met her and had only an on-line relationship with her. And, on top of all of that, ND scooted this under the rug for three weeks and blew it up in the face of the ND campus police brushing the 2 sexual assaults by football players under the rug. Way to go ND.

Can you rewrite that in English please?

[Keller]

I would lean towards the "he's in on it" but it's just so bizarre. What about that testimonial from whatever (unrelated?) NFL player that was, who claimed to have met her? Just weirder and weirder.

Not saying he wasn't in on it, but that would mean he needs to be institutionalized.

[Keller]

Hellooo....Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart and Ted Haggard.

The difference is Manti comes across as a genuine human being, not a sleazeball.

[WRoss]

Can you rewrite that in English please?

Manti lied.
His family lied.
Notre Dame started receiving attention about campus police hindering 2 sexual assault cases, one which led to a suicide, against Notre Dame football players.
Notre Dame waited three weeks to break the news of this case, conveniently after the national championship and some articles about the sexual assault cases.
Notre Dame went full retard.

[TheEschaton]

So, so delicious.

(to be fair, BC had one sexual assault cover up that I remember, but it didn't involve a football player, it involved the son of a man who had a building named after him.)

[Warriorbird]

Ha ha ha. Damn.

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/337838_561920853837073_1558230319_o.jpg

[WRoss]

Is it just me or does Manziel's girlfriend look like she is 30?

[Allereli]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/01/17/manti-teo-what-a-story/?hpid=z4


After Notre Dame beat Michigan State on Sept. 15 following the alleged double-sorrow in Manti’s life, ESPN took the linebacker aside for a little chat. Te’o had recorded an impressive 12 tackles.

Heather Cox: Manti, this must be a bittersweet night, emotional week losing your grandmother and your girlfriend on Tuesday. How would you describe your emotions on the field tonight?

Te’o: [Stock response, talks about support from family.]

Cox: Can’t imagine what you’re going through…and you played inspired on the field with an interception, over 10 tackles. You came in with a challenge to stop Le’Veon Bell, how did you do it?

Te’o: [Stock response, talks about teammates, dominating]

Cox: A courageous night, our thoughts are certainly with you.

Brent Musburger: Manti Te’o, the defensive player of this game, standing tall with a heavy heart here tonight, as the Irish pull to 3-0…

Those words captured how the sports world handled Te’o's performance that night. Overcoming adversity. Here was an illustration of just how malleable, how corruptible is sports journalism’s commitment to such story lines. After all, this dear girlfriend had died, and Te’o couldn’t be bothered to see her laid to rest. “That’s not that heroic. You have a guy who blew off his girlfriend’s funeral for a football game,” says Scocca.

[msconstrew]

This article is pretty fascinating:

http://www.southbendtribune.com/sbt-what-dreams-may-come-20130116,0,4642827,full.story


"And Manti Te'o is convinced the beautiful stranger will be watching too Saturday, somehow. Lennay Kekua was a Stanford student and Cardinal football fan when the two exchanged glances, handshakes and phone numbers that fateful weekend three seasons ago. "She was gifted in music, multi-lingual, had dreams grounded in reality and the talent to catch up to them."

"Dreams grounded in reality", except for the fact that she wasn't a real person...


The plan was for Kekua to spend extensive time with the whole Te'o family when upwards of 40 of them came to South Bend in mid-November for ND's Senior Day date with Wake Forest.

"They started out as just friends," Brian Te'o said. "Every once in a while, she would travel to Hawaii, and that happened to be the time Manti was home, so he would meet with her there. But within the last year, they became a couple.

"And we came to the realization that she could be our daughter-in-law. Sadly, it won't happen now."

So, a family member is acknowledging that he met this alleged woman.


"About the time Kekua and Manti became a couple, she was injured in an auto accident. There were complications during her recovery. And it was also during her recovery that it was discovered Kekua had leukemia."

People, when killing off the fictional persons you created in order to commit a fraud, don't get too clever or cute in how you do it. Leukemia or the auto accident are fine. But mixing both? At that point you're just piling on.

May I suggest something a little more mundane like, she was shot in the head with a nail gun while building a house for Habitat for Humanity, or she was ripped apart by a pack of wild dogs while hiking in the woods?

This SI article is an excellent follow up to the South Bend Tribune article:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130117/manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax-quotes/?sct=hp_t11_a2&eref=sihp

[Androidpk]

People, when killing off the fictional persons you created in order to commit a fraud, don't get too clever or cute in how you do it. Leukemia or the auto accident are fine. But mixing both? At that point you're just piling on.

May I suggest something a little more mundane like, she was shot in the head with a nail gun while building a house for Habitat for Humanity, or she was ripped apart by a pack of wild dogs while hiking in the woods?

She was battling an outbreak of Ebola in a remote Ugandan village when her tour bus overturned into a river and she was eaten alive by crocodiles.

[msconstrew]

She was battling an outbreak of Ebola in a remote Ugandan village when her tour bus overturned into a river and she was eaten alive by crocodiles.

Well, sure, if you want to be cliche about it...

[WRoss]

http://i.imgur.com/JGage.png

[Tisket]

I would lean towards the "he's in on it" but it's just so bizarre. What about that testimonial from whatever (unrelated?) NFL player that was, who claimed to have met her? Just weirder and weirder.

I don't really find it weird that he'd have a friend who would offer a lie up in an attempt to defend him. Maybe I am wrong but I can't see a victim there. Good on the friend.

[Tisket]

The difference is Manti comes across as a genuine human being, not a sleazeball.

Maybe, I haven't seen him talk about this in an interview yet.

Yes, I live under a rock.

[Methais]

What I like best about this whole thing is the memes.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/629ded820db4e42dec7ca86e874e91b8/tumblr_mgrdkcmAzr1rp57wyo1_500.jpg

[Atlanteax]

Another good one:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/4f38232e62f05532d91e72a235195072/tumblr_mgtlupnbcl1s3b9u6o1_500.jpg

and had to add this one:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/70c6ee8e73fc88092911603ccf5d5b51/tumblr_mgsnaeNkfi1s3b9u6o1_500.jpg

[Atlanteax]

The 2-minutes Taiwanese explanation of Te'o and Hoax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cWmpGhIZJWw

[Atlanteax]

Unintentional diss?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8853997/manti-teo-received-support-hawaii-hometown-girlfriend-hoax


Phi Smotherman, 46, said people in Laie are sorry a guy like Manti became a victim of hoax. He said the town should throw a parade for him when he comes home in recognition of his career at Notre Dame and all the awards he received.

"I hope he does great, goes to the NFL and finds a real girlfriend that he can marry and actually touch," Smotherman said.

[Keller]

Manti lied.
His family lied.
Notre Dame started receiving attention about campus police hindering 2 sexual assault cases, one which led to a suicide, against Notre Dame football players.
Notre Dame waited three weeks to break the news of this case, conveniently after the national championship and some articles about the sexual assault cases.
Notre Dame went full retard.

re Lizzy Seeburg - that story comes up every few months. Usually when the same femi-nazi journalist writes another story about the "tragedy."

What that journalist never includes in her story is Lizzy's hand-written account of that night, which says that she was alone with a football player in his room. They had been drinking and began to kiss. He removed her bra and touched her breasts, she told him to stop, he did, and she felt violated.

She left and immediately reached out to her therapist (ask yourself what 18 year old has their therapist programmed into their phone?). She told her to write the account, sign and date it, and turn it over to ND police.

It sucks that Seeburg killed herself - but a 19 year old touching an 18 year old's sweater puppets while making out is not rape. There is a reason ND police didn't pursue the case.

[Drew]

Fresh details have emerged about how complex and layered was the hoax involving Notre Dame star linebacker Manti Te'o and his fake girlfriend, "Lennay Kekua."

According to ABC News interviews and published reports, Te'o received phone calls, text messages and letters before every football game from his "girlfriend." He was in contact with her family, including a twin brother, a second brother, sister and parents. He called often to check in with them, just as he did with his own family. And "Kekua" kept in contact with Te'o's friends and family, and teammates spoke to her on the phone.

"There are a remarkable number of characters involved. We don't know how many people they represent," Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick said at a news conference this week. "There are male and female characters, brothers, cousins, mother, and we don't know if it's two people playing multiple characters or multiple people."

"It goes to the sophistication of this, that there are all these sort of independent pieces that reinforce elements of the story all the way through," he said.



One of Te'o's teammates who asked not to be identified told ABC News that it was normal for Te'o to pass his phone around to teammates when he was on the line with "Lennay" so they could say hello to her.

"I talked to her," this teammate said. "I wasn't suspicious."

When Te'o got the call telling him that Lennay had died last fall, he was in the locker room, the teammate said.

"He got real emotional, crying," the teammate said. "He's an emotional guy."

The teammate said he thinks Te'o genuinely got hoaxed. The fact that Te'o talked about meeting her and touching her hand - when really he only "met" her on the internet - makes this teammate think that he was not completely telling the truth about his relationship.


"I think he was just embarrassed about it, the whole internet thing," the teammate said. The player said he hasn't talked to Te'o since this story broke.

With so many questions swirling around the revelation that Te'o's fake girlfriend, a source in the Notre Dame athletic department said the school would like Te'o to speak out publicly, but noted that they are not currently in touch with him.

"At some point the ball ends up in his court," the source said. "We're not involved right now."

A newly released transcript of "Sports Illustrated" writer Pete Thamel's Sept. 23 interview with Te'o gives a hint at the staggering depth of the deception.

Te'o told Thamel that Lennay Kekua's real name was Melelengei, but since no one could pronounce it properly it was shortened to Lennay. But her family nicknamed her Lala, he said.

Te'o's knowledge about the details of his girlfriend's life was often murky, including her majors in school, occupation and extent of her injuries after an alleged April 28 car accident with a drunk driver.

What he was absolutely clear about was how much time he spent in contact with her, especially while she was in the hospital recovering from the car accident, which led to the discovery of her leukemia.

"I talked to my girlfriend every single day," Te'o told Themel. "I slept on the phone with her every single day. When she was going through chemo, she would have all these pains and the doctors were saying they were trying to give her medicine to make her sleep. She still couldn't sleep. She would say, 'Just call my boyfriend and have him on the phone with me, and I can sleep.' I slept on the phone with her every single night."

He would spend eight hours a night with someone, somewhere, breathing on the other end, he told Thamel.

Te'o recounted how his girlfriend who was "on a machine" after being in a coma.

"We lost her, actually, twice. She flatlined twice. They revived her twice," he said. "It was just a trippy situation."

For a while Kekua was unable to talk and he described the nurse-deemed "miracle" of how Kekua's breathing would pick up when she heard his voice on the phone.

"There were lengthy, long telephone conversations. There was sleeping with the phone on connected to each other," Swarbrick said. "The issue of who it is, who's playing what role, what's real and what's not here is a more complex question than I can get into."

Perhaps one of the most touching displays of love from Kekua to Te'o, he told the writer, was the one-page letter she would write him on her iPad before each game. One of her siblings, often her twin brother Noa, would then read him the letter over the phone before sending it to him.


I bolded the crazy parts. To me this definitely confirms this poor kid was hoaxed.

[Androidpk]

Why does it have to be a hoax? Couldn't it have just been some emotionally unstable crazy person?

[Some Rogue]

Pictures of Manti Te’o fake girlfriend turn out to be a woman named Diane O’Meara

(http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/pictures-manti-te-o-fake-girlfriend-turn-woman-211606639--ncaaf.html)

The woman Manti Te’o thought was Lennay Kekua from photos has come forward and she’s not happy.
Diane O’Meara, a 23-year-old woman from Torrance, Calif., says she is the woman in the photos and that she did not give her consent to have them used as part of what appears to be a hoax.
“Somebody stole her identity,” a relative named Olga Volkov told The New York Post (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/meet_dame_in_grid_fauxmance_eouFDP9Ayr5kqGZ2Lyz91K ?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Local). “[O’Meara’s family] found out about it yesterday. They were shocked.”

According to Deadspin, the woman in the photo was a high school classmate of Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, the man who appears to have perpetrated the hoax from the beginning.
O’Meara has retained a lawyer and he told Inside Edition that his client is also a victim in this hoax that continues to get stranger by the day.
Te’o never met Kekua in person, though he did talk to her on the phone several times. Te’o was told Kekua died on Sept. 12 after a short battle with leukemia. Months after Te’o’s heartbreaking story went public, he received a phone call from Kekua – or a person pretending to be Kekua – telling him she had not actually died.
At that point, after a three –year relationship with Kekua, Te’o learned that the woman he had called his girlfriend since 2011 was fictitious.
In fact, she was a marketing coordinator in Torrance, Calif.

I'm starting to lean towards he was hoaxed and was just too embarrassed to originally admit he was calling some internet girl he'd never met his girlfriend.

[Tisket]

Has he run for congress yet.

[Methais]

Has he run for congress yet.

Yes.

[Keller]

Looks like y'all will have to put away your tin foil hats for another day.

Sorry my fellow PC sports fans. Oh, and Badtie, too.

[Methais]

Looks like y'all will have to put away your tin foil hats for another day.

Sorry my fellow PC sports fans. Oh, and Badtie, too.

?

[WRoss]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/manti_sweetie_really_ldZLtSQIlVkCNn02bs81sO


Notre Dame grid star Manti Te’o quickly replaced his fake dead girlfriend with the real thing — a stunning Indiana college student, according to friends and the couple’s Twitter feeds.

Weeks after his bogus online girlfriend, “Lennay Kekua,” supposedly died of leukemia, the linebacker was keeping company with Alexandra Del Pilar, the 21-year old daughter of an Indiana cancer-center doctor.

Del Pilar — from Notre Dame sister school St. Mary’s College — first provided a real shoulder for Te’o to cry on when his grandmother was dying last fall, a source told The Post yesterday.

“When he was going through all the trouble with his grandma in September, that’s when he started talking with Alex,” the source said.

Kekua also was supposed to have died in September.

Such a stand up guy Keller, how could I have ever doubted you?

[Methais]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/manti_sweetie_really_ldZLtSQIlVkCNn02bs81sO



Such a stand up guy Keller, how could I have ever doubted you?

This proves that Alexandra Del Pilar was behind the hoax.

[Atlanteax]

This was provided by a link from Bill Simmons (Sports Guy)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130117/manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax-quotes/


Here's what Te'o told me that day about his relationship with Kekua, and comments from others for the story:

TE'O: On April 28 [my girlfriend] got in a bad accident and was hit by a drunk driver. Ever since April 28 she's been in the hospital. She recovered from the accident but we were always wondering why some days she would be doing well and the next day she would be down in the dumps and complaining about pain in her back. It was then that we found out she had leukemia.

SI: Sorry to cut you off, just trying to get the timetable right.

TE'O: It was the beginning of July. She and I, man, we had this relationship where it was just amazing. With all that time on her hands in the hospital, she was never thinking about herself and what was hurting here. She was always thinking about others. She went on and wrote a letter to me before every game. Things that she would want me to know. So yeah.

SI: Did she send them to you?

TE'O: She had them all on her iPad and her family found [them]. Her family, what they would do is they would read it to me. And then they'll send it to me in a picture.

SI: You called them one day leading into each game?

TE'O: Yeah, I'll call and check up on them and see how they're doing, see how things are going. Just like I check in on my family at home.

SI: What day this week did they read you the letter?

TE'O: Friday. I checked in on Friday.

SI: How did you meet her?

TE'O: We met just, ummmm, just she knew my cousin. And kind of saw me there so. Just kind of regular.

SI: How long were you dating? I know that can be a complicated question.

TE'O: Oct. 15 was the official date. Of last year. I've known her for four years. So we've been friends.

SI: So you dated for about a year.

TE'O: Yeah.

SI: Just want to make sure I have her name right.

TE'O: Lennay Kekua.

I bold-ed the WTF part ... and then at the end Te'o says he has known her for 4 years and dated her for 1 year??

I give it a 50/50 that he was genuinely hoaxed, judging by the first two bold-ed parts ... but he definitely comes off as fully gullible and complicit in contributing to the 'hoax' taking a life of its own.

[Methais]

This guy clearly loves cock.

[Keller]

This was provided by a link from Bill Simmons (Sports Guy)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130117/manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax-quotes/



I bold-ed the WTF part ... and then at the end Te'o says he has known her for 4 years and dated her for 1 year??

I give it a 50/50 that he was genuinely hoaxed, judging by the first two bold-ed parts ... but he definitely comes off as fully gullible and complicit in contributing to the 'hoax' taking a life of its own.

The best part about this whole story is the outstanding entertainment watching people try to conjure up their wildest dreams of what this situation was. The limitless imagination, and desire for this story to be more than it was, shows how much people really dislike ND football and their star players.

Oh, and 50/50? Your judgment is almost as bad as Manti's.

[Keller]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/manti_sweetie_really_ldZLtSQIlVkCNn02bs81sO



Such a stand up guy Keller, how could I have ever doubted you?

Outstanding!

Out of one side of your mouth you want to criticize him for having a fake girlfriend; out of the other you want to criticize him for following that up with a real girlfriend.

You and badtie are awesome. Don't stop.

[Buckwheet]

If he loves the cock he would replace his fake girlfriend with a paid girlfriend real quick.

[Atlanteax]

Te'o admits Katie Coric that he is is a *liar*

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8871864/manti-teo-acknowledges-lying-first-tv-interview

Looks like he will be drafted by the NY Jets?

[Atlanteax]

This guy clearly loves cock.

Roflmao, it was a MAN

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8875990/lawyer-ronaiah-tuiasosopo-was-voice-talking-manti-teo


The woman whose picture was used to create Manti Te'o's fake girlfriend has been identified, but the voice of the woman who had hours of late-night phone calls with the Notre Dame star linebacker has remained silent. Turns out that's because it reportedly was a man.

The lawyer for the man who has been identified as behind the hoax, Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, told the New York Daily News that his client disguised his voice and assumed the identity of Lennay Kekua to try to develop a relationship with Te'o.

[Keller]

It's always been a man. Deadspin was reporting that over a week ago. Badtie, you are truly one dense man.

[Atlanteax]

It's always been a man. Deadspin was reporting that over a week ago. Badtie, you are truly one dense man.

I'm not the one in denial about Te'o sustaining the hoax on his own accord either to (1) cover up that he is gay (perhaps voice was not necessarily disguised?), or (2) embarrassed once he realized it was a guy.

[Keller]

I'm not the one in denial about Te'o sustaining the hoax on his own accord either to (1) cover up that he is gay (perhaps voice was not necessarily disguised?), or (2) embarrassed once he realized it was a guy.

Neither am I.

[Parkbandit]

I think we can all agree that no matter what actually happened, this has made him look really bad.. but as long as he plays in the NFL at a high level.. all will be forgiven.

[Atlanteax]

I think we can all agree that no matter what actually happened, this has made him look really bad.. but as long as he plays in the NFL at a high level.. all will be forgiven.

Indeed ... and it may be (ironically) easier for him to outperform expectations as a rookie with his draft stock dropping.

[Keller]

If authentic, it really shows how fucking psychopathic this Tuiasispopoopopo dude is.

Voicemails "Lennay" left for Te'o (http://www.katiecouric.com/features/hear-the-voicemails-from-manti-teos-girlfriend-a-katie-exclusive/)

[Parkbandit]

Indeed ... and it may be (ironically) easier for him to outperform expectations as a rookie with his draft stock dropping.

Thing is.. if his combine is good, his stock won't take any hit. I don't see this stopping some teams from drafting him.. especially the ones at the top of the order.

[Keller]

Thing is.. if his combine is good, his stock won't take any hit. I don't see this stopping some teams from drafting him.. especially the ones at the top of the order.

Badtie is catfishing us as a sports fan. I can't imagine he actually follows sports and still says the shit he does.

[WRoss]

Outstanding!

Out of one side of your mouth you want to criticize him for having a fake girlfriend; out of the other you want to criticize him for following that up with a real girlfriend.

You and badtie are awesome. Don't stop.

Dude, no matter which way the story goes, he lied to the nation numerous times. I'm not sure why you keep defending him?

[WRoss]

Also, I heard that the fake girlfriend was really Belichick. He did it so that his draft value would drop and he could pick him up.

[Androidpk]

Dude, no matter which way the story goes, he lied to the nation numerous times. I'm not sure why you keep defending him?

Who gives a fuck though, besides you? You seemed obsessed with him for some odd reason.

[WRoss]

Who gives a fuck though, besides you? You seemed obsessed with him for some odd reason.

I thought the story was interesting, but from the get go, Keller has been in ultra defense mode. Isn't it interested when a top draft prospect has this big of a fuck up?

[Androidpk]

If Keller has been in ultra defense mode then you've been in ultra attack mode.

[Keller]

I thought the story was interesting, but from the get go, Keller has been in ultra defense mode. Isn't it interested when a top draft prospect has this big of a fuck up?

What in the fuck are you talking about?

Take another spin through this thread and try to cobble together me being defensive, let alone ultra defensive.

The only thing I even remotely defended was ND in the Lizzy Seeberg fake rape.

[Atlanteax]

Badtie is catfishing us as a sports fan. I can't imagine he actually follows sports and still says the shit he does.

You mean like how you catfish'd about building a sandbox when it was all dad?

[Parkbandit]

Keller is a sexist who defends rapists.

[Androidpk]

Is it national catfish day or something?

[Tisket]

lolling @ PB's avatar

[Atlanteax]

Is it national catfish day or something?

You can thank Te'o for that!

[Keller]

Roflmao, it was a MAN

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8875990/lawyer-ronaiah-tuiasosopo-was-voice-talking-manti-teo

And it's now being reported that the phone calls were with his female cousin.

I don't believe it. I still think it was the dude, who I think is a psychopath and was literally in love with Manti.

[Atlanteax]

It is amazing how the media is keeping this story in the headlines, thru 'daily updates' ... it is almost as if it is taking revenge on Te'o for leading them on to write about how such an amazing guy he was to overcome tragedy during the season ... too bad the story (around game 3 of the season?) was not 'fact checked' properly at the time...

[AnticorRifling]

Are you trying to say that the media outlets aren't diligent in their fact finding or objective in their reporting and agendas? How dare you sir?! How dare you.

[Atlanteax]

Jemele Hill suggest that Jack Swarbrick (ND AD) defends rapists:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8865609/notre-dame-stumbles-again-handling-manti-teo-story


Swarbrick's praise of Te'o and his eagerness to acquit his star linebacker of any wrongdoing after Notre Dame conducted a flimsy investigation into the matter is dubious, at best.

Maybe in time there will be a better understanding of why such emphatic public support was warranted. But as Swarbrick choked back tears, just one question popped into my mind.

Did Swarbrick ever cry for Lizzy Seeberg?

Survey says... "No"

(What if Te'o is the 'unidentified' football player involved? That would be 'Perfect Storm'-ish! Heh)

[Keller]

Jemele Hill suggest that Jack Swarbrick (ND AD) defends rapists:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8865609/notre-dame-stumbles-again-handling-manti-teo-story



Survey says... "No"

(What if Te'o is the 'unidentified' football player involved? That would be 'Perfect Storm'-ish! Heh)

The player is Prince Shembo. And it wasn't rape. It was an unwanted boob-grab, which he stopped when asked. There is a reason no charges were filed.

[Keller]

It is amazing how the media is keeping this story in the headlines, thru 'daily updates' ... it is almost as if it is taking revenge on Te'o for leading them on to write about how such an amazing guy he was to overcome tragedy during the season ... too bad the story (around game 3 of the season?) was not 'fact checked' properly at the time...

The problem was that deadspin irresponsibly reported that "a source" said there was an 80 percent chance Te'o was in on it. Now you've got everyone and their mother wanting all the juicy details.

And Te'o didn't lead them to do shit. Coach Kelly told the media about the GF dying. The media, wanting to sell advertising, did the rest.

Te'o has got to be embarrassed, but, to me, Roniah and the media come out of this looking much worse than he does. Once people realize this wasn't Manti's effort to cover-up being gay, or to win over Heisman voters, and was a legitimate hoax, people will realize he is a gullible dope, lose interest, and move on with their lives.

[Atlanteax]

The player is Prince Shembo. And it wasn't rape. It was an unwanted boob-grab, which he stopped when asked. There is a reason no charges were filed.

So is it your position that as long the guy, particularly a ND football player, stops when asked, after grabbing a female student's breasts, that it is 'all good' ?

[Keller]

So is it your position that as long the guy, particularly a ND football player, stops when asked, after grabbing a female student's breasts, that it is 'all good' ?

My position is that any 20 year old male that grabs a 19 year old females breasts while they are making out has not done a damn thing any of us hasn't done in the past. Except maybe Backlash.

[AnticorRifling]

My position is that any 20 year old male that grabs a 19 year old females breasts while they are making out has not done a damn thing any of us hasn't done in the past. Except maybe Backlash.

My wife is older than I am. Lawyered.

[Keller]

So Backlash and Anticor. Esteemed company, AR.

[AnticorRifling]

Damn it.

You win this round you son of a bitch.

[Keller]

Damn it.

You win this round you son of a bitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Cig84suHM

[diethx]

The only tits you've ever touched (sexually) belong to your wife, Anticor? Really?

[Keller]

For the record, I'm still waiting for WRoss to make sense of his statement that I'm being ultra defensive.

I have a feeling I'm going to need to be patient.

[Back]

So Backlash and Anticor. Esteemed company, AR.

I am younger than his wife too.

[Latrinsorm]

Jemele Hill says a lot of dumb things.

[Drew]

Jemele Hill says a lot of dumb things.


That's an understatement.

[Methais]

My position is that any 20 year old male that grabs a 19 year old females breasts while they are making out has not done a damn thing any of us hasn't done in the past. Except maybe Backlash.

And apparently Atlanteax.

[Back]

And apparently Atlanteax.

Dead hookers don't count.

[AnticorRifling]

The only tits you've ever touched (sexually) belong to your wife, Anticor? Really?

Yup.

[Some Rogue]

Yup.

You forgot to count your own..

http://youtu.be/f71VqFgwPy4?t=1m24s

[Androidpk]

I frown for you :(

[Tisket]

I'm pretty sure AR has had far more sexual experience than most guys who post here.

And I'm sure his wife is a very happy woman.

This is me lobbying for an extra title line.

[diethx]

That blows my mind.

[Keller]

Roniah Tuiasippopopoopopo admitted to Dr. Phil that he was gay - and then he backtracked to say that he was confused.

Should be an interesting interview. :popcorn2:

[Atlanteax]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9213509/2013-nfl-draft-manti-teo-geno-smith-passed-first-round


Te'o, the Notre Dame linebacker, was not taken in the first round of the NFL draft Thursday. And so fans -- and even people who don't normally care about football -- will buzz for another 24 hours about the fake girlfriend hoax and its repercussions on his football career.

I LOL'd.

[Methais]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9213509/2013-nfl-draft-manti-teo-geno-smith-passed-first-round



I LOL'd.


http://youtu.be/HrkBSFBA0f0

[Keller]

God it's awesome the ND is good again.

[Allereli]

#69 on Maxim's Hot 100 list

http://www.maxim.com/girls-of-maxim/the-invisible-girl-profile

[Drew]

#69 on Maxim's Hot 100 list

http://www.maxim.com/girls-of-maxim/the-invisible-girl-profile

She looks like my current girlfriend.

[Androidpk]

She looks like my current girlfriend.

^