WARNING: BIGPUN on PC Character sale scammer!!!

[ashronsjunky]

This to let you all know to be very aware of BIGPUN on PC. He was supposed to sell me a level 33 empath on Monday. I paypaled him the $35 he was asking monday morning. he accepted the payment Monday evening and I haven't heard a thing from him since. No one seems to know any of his characters and honestly I doubt this character even existed. I made multiple attempts to contact him and got nothing in return. If anyone knows any of his contact info it be greatly appreciated!

Here is a copy of the conversations we had...

From him sent Saturday Night:Saw you looking for a pocket empath. This guy has worked well for me for years. I'd prefer $35 cash if your interested but would take 5m in coins if needed. Here is all his info. If any of my other characters get hurt I'll try to get you some healing roundtimes. He is a COL master and has his fixskills.

Name: Snoggi Race: Dwarf Profession: Empath (shown as: Adventurer)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 1233369 Level: 33
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 88 (29) ... 88 (29)
Constitution (CON): 78 (29) ... 78 (29)
Dexterity (DEX): 90 (20) ... 92 (21)
Agility (AGI): 92 (16) ... 92 (16)
Discipline (DIS): 74 (22) ... 74 (22)
Aura (AUR): 84 (7) ... 84 (7)
Logic (LOG): 78 (19) ... 78 (19)
Intuition (INT): 46 (-2) ... 46 (-2)
Wisdom (WIS): 79 (14) ... 79 (14)
Influence (INF): 80 (5) ... 80 (5)
Mana: 101 Silver: 391
>exp
Level: 33 Deeds: 5
Experience: 1233369 Death's Sting: None
Exp. until next: 54131 Recent Deaths: 0
Mental TPs: 0 Fame: 1666247
Physical TPs: 454 Mana: 101/132 max
(854 Phy converted to Mnt)

Your mind is as clear as a bell.

You feel a strange sense of serenity and find that you are able to reflect on recent events with uncommon clarity and understanding.
>skills
Snoggi (at level 33), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 124 32
Harness Power......................| 164 64
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 126 33
Perception.........................| 25 5
Climbing...........................| 50 10
First Aid..........................| 153 53

Spell Lists
Major Spiritual....................| 33

Spell Lists
Minor Spiritual....................| 30

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 30

>art skill
In the skill of fletching, you are a highly skilled laborer with 449 ranks.
>fixskills
The FIXSKILLS command will allow you to instantly set your skills to match your goals. Use the GOALS command to set your skills to your desired values FIRST!

You may view FIXSKILLS HELP for more information on this option.

To use FIXSKILLS, you must type FIXSKILL CONFIRM within the next 30 seconds.

*** No additional options will be granted outside of normal parameters for misuse. ***

** Make sure your skills are set how you want them with GOALS before using FIXSKILLS CONFIRM **

Reply:looks good ill take it but cant do anything till monday when i can deposit my check in the bank

His reply:Sounds good. You can just send the money to paypal account wehaulsc@gmail.com on monday and I will put in the transfer form as soon as that goes through

I sent the payment monday morning then it was accepted by him monday night...

Tuesday Morning: Me:send me a message on AIM so we can get the transfer processed please

Tuesday Night:Ello? you going to get back to me on the empath please? I sent the money which you obviously know because you accepted the payment...

Wednesday Morning:Well im gonna take the lack of response that you are scamming me for $35... So be it...

[Lobek]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?63489-73-rogue-master-in-sweep-stunman-cheapshot-gambits

[Mtenda]

I have dealt with him many times in the past with no problems. I seriously doubt you are being scammed. I will contact him and let him know that you have sent payment and are waiting for your character. FYI, when sending a paypal payment there is no action of accepting a payment by the seller. It just goes through when everything checks out. He probably just hasn't logged on since then.

[Manamethis]

I think simutronics is backed up. I sent in a request last week and still haven't gotten a response when they usually respond within 24 hours.

[Xorai]

I have a level 40 empath I'll give you if you don't get that one. It sucks being fucked over.

[ashronsjunky]

I think simutronics is backed up. I sent in a request last week and still haven't gotten a response when they usually respond within 24 hours.

Its not that im waiting for the transfer we havent even exchanged account info yet! He was Very fast to reply to my post on wanting to buy a empath and when i said id take his he was just as fast to reply back with his paypal email. He know the money was going to be to him on monday like i said in my reply to him. I havent heard a thing back even after several attempts to message him on here, message him on his AIM he has listed and even a email to the paypal address he provided...

[Gelston]

Going off Bigpun's profile... Last Activity 12-09-2012 09:52

Can't quite tell if he is trying to scam yet.

[BigPun]

Lol, so because I don't mess with gemstone stuff everyday im a scammer? Just so you know I don't accept payments through paypal it accepts it automatically as soon as your bank clears it. You should be a little more patient and do a little more research before you call people a scammer. I have sold characters for up to $600 on here and never had a problem with anyone. Pretty ridiculous to accuse me of scamming you for $35. I will be on all night and on AIM as well. Let me know what you want to do. I'll give you either the character or your money back. I really don't care either way.

[SonoftheNorth]

one day before freaking out and posting a scam thread is a little bit hasty

[dszabo]

What do you expect from this OP? He's a drama queen of the Rupaul variety.

[4a6c1]

This morning it was really cold outside but then like....all the sudden it was hot. I started crying uncontrollably because that meant the polar icecaps were probably melting and we'll all be dead soon. THE END IS NIIIIIIGH. I'm huffing some magic marker now and then I'm going to go stand on a city corner with my signs. Gotta get the word out.

[Tenlaar]

the polar icecaps were probably melting and we'll all be dead soon. THE END IS NIIIIIIGH.

Didn't you hear? We're going to get hit by a three mile wide asteroid TONIGHT!

[Tgo01]

This morning it was really cold outside but then like....all the sudden it was hot.

People who say "all the sudden" make me cry like a baby :(

[FlayedAngel]

Didn't you hear? We're going to get hit by a three mile wide asteroid TONIGHT!

DISCO PARTY OF EPIC PROPORTIONS!!

[Sarika]

I did blink a little over the $35 especially when you logged on yesterday and started screaming about it on lnet as well. It seemed very odd to be scammed out of $35 when usually scammers will aim for the big bucks like $500 or more.

Good to know it was a misunderstanding. I hope you apologised.

[Wrathbringer]

Lol, so because I don't mess with gemstone stuff everyday im a scammer? Just so you know I don't accept payments through paypal it accepts it automatically as soon as your bank clears it. You should be a little more patient and do a little more research before you call people a scammer. I have sold characters for up to $600 on here and never had a problem with anyone. Pretty ridiculous to accuse me of scamming you for $35. I will be on all night and on AIM as well. Let me know what you want to do. I'll give you either the character or your money back. I really don't care either way.


one day before freaking out and posting a scam thread is a little bit hasty

It was 2 days, and were I the seller I'd have had the common courtesy to inform the buyer that I "don't do GS stuff everyday" and that it would be a couple days after they paid before I could do anything, especially considering the buyer had the courtesy to inform the seller about the delay in payment. You don't hold someone's money for 48 hours without giving them what they paid for unless they've already agreed to such an arrangement up front. It's just bad business.

[ashronsjunky]

Lol, so because I don't mess with gemstone stuff everyday im a scammer? Just so you know I don't accept payments through paypal it accepts it automatically as soon as your bank clears it. You should be a little more patient and do a little more research before you call people a scammer. I have sold characters for up to $600 on here and never had a problem with anyone. Pretty ridiculous to accuse me of scamming you for $35. I will be on all night and on AIM as well. Let me know what you want to do. I'll give you either the character or your money back. I really don't care either way.

dude i told you i was going to send the money on monday. you said yourself you would send and do the transaction as soon as the payment goes through. which is what was expected. If you werent gonna be around a little common decency would be to shoot me a email or message and say i wont be around till the end of the week. Instead of leaving me hanging. But after 3 days of no answers to my messages what do you expect i would think? Have some respect for the person you doing the transaction with.

[ashronsjunky]

It was 2 days, and were I the seller I'd have had the common courtesy to inform the buyer that I "don't do GS stuff everyday" and that it would be a couple days after they paid before I could do anything, especially considering the buyer had the courtesy to inform the seller about the delay in payment. You don't hold someone's money for 48 hours without giving them what they paid for unless they've already agreed to such an arrangement up front. It's just bad business.

Thank you wrathbringer. Thats all i would of wanted and it would have been totally acceptable and i wouldnt of had a issue waiting a few days

[Some Rogue]

Up to 3 days now!

OMG SOMEONE CALL TEH CYBER POLICE. SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT $35 DOLLARS.

[Some Rogue]

What do you expect from this OP? He's a drama queen of the Rupaul variety.
This is starting to sound about right...

[Liagala]

But after 3 days of no answers to my messages
The payment processed Monday night and freaked out publicly on Wednesday morning. That's roughly 36 hours. Settle down, Beavis.

[Bobmuhthol]

I paypaled him the $35 he was asking monday morning. he accepted the payment Monday evening and I haven't heard a thing from him since.This thread brought to you by not understanding how Paypal works.

[Allereli]

[/COLOR]This thread brought to you by not understanding how Paypal works.

Bob would have stolen the money.

Paypal also sends you an email saying you have received money. You wouldn't have to check the PC or "deal with GS Stuff everyday" to see that.

[Gelston]

I know when I've sold/bought characters it has generally been a pretty instant exchange between money and account information. I'd say if anything hit BigPun for bad merchanting practices, but it wasn't a scam.

[Bobmuhthol]

Bob would have stolen the money.

Paypal also sends you an email saying you have received money. You wouldn't have to check the PC or "deal with GS Stuff everyday" to see that.Hi, I don't know where this came from, but fuck off. I'm not exactly active, but I have been involved in at least $1000 in transactions with people here over the years, so I really don't need that.

[Allereli]

Hi, I don't know where this came from, but fuck off. I'm not exactly active, but I have been involved in at least $1000 in transactions with people here over the years, so I really don't need that.

sorry, he would have stolen the money and said it wasn't technically stealing.

[Bobmuhthol]

Seriously, fuck you.

[diethx]

I think she was just making a joke about the whole stealing music and movies and shit.

[Bobmuhthol]

I know what she's doing. That doesn't change the statement alluding to my defrauding people, though.

[Suppressed Poet]

Get off my dick.

My dick.

My dick, my dick, my dick.

Get off myyyy dick.

Ohh good times. Didn't BigPun die of extreme obesity or something?

[diethx]

I know what she's doing. That doesn't change the statement alluding to my defrauding people, though.

It was pretty funny. And Allereli has pretty much no sense of humor, so let's not discourage her from making jokes.

[Tgo01]

I thought it was funny too. Another good one would have been "Is it really stealing if you don't recognize it as stealing?"

Of course I would never say such a thing, but it would have been funny if someone said it!

[diethx]

I thought it was funny too. Another good one would have been "Is it really stealing if you don't recognize it as stealing?"

Of course I would never say such a thing, but it would have been funny if someone said it!

Heehee.

[Fortybox]

What do you expect from this OP? He's a drama queen of the Rupaul variety.

Wtf! I dont overreact that way unless someone tries to pull my weave

[Parkbandit]

I know what she's doing. That doesn't change the statement alluding to my defrauding people, though.

Well, you know after it was explained to you.. since you obviously didn't get it the first time:


Hi, I don't know where this came from, but fuck off. I'm not exactly active, but I have been involved in at least $1000 in transactions with people here over the years, so I really don't need that.

[Bobmuhthol]

Thanks for the heads up on what I did or did not understand. I got the reference. I did not understand her need to accuse me of ripping people off. It's not nullified by being a joke.

[Parkbandit]

You say you get it.. yet clearly you are still not getting it...

Holy fuck...

Dumbed down: she was only talking about your retarded notion that stealing intellectual property is not stealing. Her comments had zero to do with anything you bought and sold in Gemstone.

Christ...

[Fortybox]

I'm reading this thread while eating my spicy chicken fillet sammich at Wendys. Moar daramz pl0x...these boards srsly need it.

[Parkbandit]

I'm reading this thread while eating my spicy chicken fillet sammich at Wendys. Moar daramz pl0x...these boards srsly need it.

Check out the calorie count on that thing. I couldn't believe it was that high.

[Bobmuhthol]

You say you get it.. yet clearly you are still not getting it...

Holy fuck...

Dumbed down: she was only talking about your retarded notion that stealing intellectual property is not stealing. Her comments had zero to do with anything you bought and sold in Gemstone.

Christ...Hey, asshole, if I make a post about you stealing from people, but what I actually meant is "I'm making fun of you for some obscure thing in another thread," you'd have a real reason to have an issue with it.

Since you only seem to understand arguments that are bolded quotes:

It's not nullified by being a joke.

[Fortybox]

530 like whoa

[Parkbandit]

Hey, asshole, if I make a post about you stealing from people, but what I actually meant is "I'm making fun of you for some obscure thing in another thread," you'd have a real reason to have an issue with it.

Since you only seem to understand arguments that are bolded quotes:

It wasn't obscure.. It's probably in the top 10 dumbest things people have posted on this forum... and that you didn't and don't get it only makes it funnier.

[Parkbandit]

530 like whoa

Damn, I thought it was like 1000.

[Bobmuhthol]

It wasn't obscure.. It's probably in the top 10 dumbest things people have posted on this forum... and that you didn't and don't get it only makes it funnier.Not everyone who sees this thread, now or in the future, will "get it." At no point did I not get it, but not blatantly and repeatedly ignoring facts has never really been your forte.

[Fortybox]

Damn, I thought it was like 1000.

Well that's just the sandwich. Probably with the fries and drink! Om nom nom

[Velfi]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Allereli again.

[Parkbandit]

At no point did I not get it,

Well, except here:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?77149-WARNING-BIGPUN-on-PC-Character-sale-scammer!!!&p=1480221#post1480221


but not blatantly and repeatedly ignoring facts has never really been your forte.

Irony.

[dszabo]

This Bobmuhthol guys ignorance is almost as amusing as the OPs idiocy.

[subzero]

http://nevercontrary.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/shit-just-got-real.jpg

[BigPun]

dude i told you i was going to send the money on monday. you said yourself you would send and do the transaction as soon as the payment goes through. which is what was expected. If you werent gonna be around a little common decency would be to shoot me a email or message and say i wont be around till the end of the week. Instead of leaving me hanging. But after 3 days of no answers to my messages what do you expect i would think? Have some respect for the person you doing the transaction with.

I understand being a little frustrated and I am sorry I forgot to check back on it. I forgot. You ever forget something? Happened to me. If I hadn't forgot there would have been no need to send you an email and keep you waiting TWO not 3 days because I just would have had the character transferred. Since I forgot I also forgot to send you an email. Your money has been refunded. Sorry for the confusion.

Email:
ashronsjunky@hotmail.com
Total amount:
-$35.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$35.00 USD


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Date:
Dec 13, 2012
Time:
14:42:33 PST
Status:
Completed

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Subject:
You have sent $35.00 USD to xxxxx xxxxxx with PayPal

[Bobmuhthol]

Well, except here:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?77149-WARNING-BIGPUN-on-PC-Character-sale-scammer!!!&p=1480221#post1480221Hey Mitt, I didn't say, "I don't know where [you got this material for a joke about me] came from," I said, "I don't know where this came from." You're making up what "this" means and then deciding that you're right, but in fact, "this" was referring to the decision to say that I would rip people off. And again, because YOU still don't get it, whether it's a joke or not does not change the fact that she said that I would steal from people.

[diethx]

OH my god enough already. It was funny even though it was at your expense. No one is saying you'd seriously steal money from anyone.

[Some Rogue]

OH my god enough already. It was funny even though it was at your expense. No one is saying you'd seriously steal money from anyone.

Music or movies though...


:flamewar:

[diethx]

Music or movies though...


:flamewar:

:yeahthat:

[Parkbandit]

Hey Mitt,

Yes Cynthia?



I didn't say, "I don't know where [you got this material for a joke about me] came from," I said, "I don't know where this came from." You're making up what "this" means and then deciding that you're right, but in fact, "this" was referring to the decision to say that I would rip people off. And again, because YOU still don't get it, whether it's a joke or not does not change the fact that she said that I would steal from people.

Ok. You knew the whole time.

Right.

[Gompers]

Hey Mitt,

There is no way that guy is as good looking as Mitt Romney, I'm guessing he gets his looks from the same place he gets his information: Neal Boortz

http://underthelobsterscope.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/41c29f40526e61ac3174f2_large1-e1306869057217.jpg?w=178&h=274

[RichardCranium]

Can I have the character for free?

[Rallorick]

you can't refund three days of anxiety via paypal, good sir...


no you cannot

[Tenlaar]

If you have anxiety over $35 you shouldn't be spending $35 on a GemStone character.

[Gelston]

DUDE IT IS THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS. THAT IS THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PENNIES. ARE YOU FUCKING MAD MAN?

[Rallorick]

three thousand five hundred pennies.... and a broken heart for the lost faith in trust and humanity.



was that too far?

[mweaver123]

This is pretty fucked up. Now, whenever someone views this forum, they're gonna see that bullshit "BIGPUN SCAMMER" thread title. Ruining the guy's rep for no good reason.

[AnticorRifling]

This is pretty fucked up. Now, whenever someone views this forum, they're gonna see that bullshit "BIGPUN SCAMMER" thread title. Ruining the guy's rep for no good reason.

I don't think so. If everyone's rep was dictated by a thread title we'd all be fucked at one point or another. Anyone should be able to read this thread and quickly and draw their own conclusions.

[Parkbandit]

I don't think so. If everyone's rep was dictated by a thread title we'd all be fucked at one point or another. Anyone should be able to read this thread and quickly and draw their own conclusions.

Says the notorious name sullier.

[Liagala]

Says the notorious name sullier.
Damn you for beating me to it!

[AnticorRifling]

My record still stands, I was right.

[diethx]

Says the notorious name sullier.

God that thread was so epic.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

This was the perfect way to spend my lunch break. Thanks everyone. And the Bobmuhthol I remember had a better sense of humor. What's happened to you?!

[dszabo]

Necro'd for lols!

Received today:

01-08-2013 12:00 AM
Thread: WARNING: BIGPUN on PC Character sale scammer!!!
your dumb

My dumb what? Did my dumb do something?

Intelligent anonymous reppers are ahhhhsome!

[Gizmo]

Bob stole my virginity.

It's my birthday.

You are all nuts.

Hugs and Kisses.

[Methais]

http://i.qkme.me/35mv9e.jpg

[Candor]

Incredible as it may sound, I have been known to whine a bit (yeah I know, it's a shock).

But even I would have had more patience before screaming about a $35 transaction.