My first rogue.

[Shari]

Okay, so this is the first rogue I've really played. Had one aaages ago and never got her past 5. So, I just want some imput on what everyone thinks so far.

I have no problem hunting, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything I need for when I get older.

Strength (STR): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
Constitution (CON): 46 (-2) ... 46 (-2)
Dexterity (DEX): 86 (28) ... 86 (28)
Agility (AGI): 86 (23) ... 86 (23)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (16) ... 92 (16)
Aura (AUR): 74 (17) ... 74 (17)
Logic (LOG): 64 (7) ... 64 (7)
Intuition (INT): 66 (8) ... 66 (8)
Wisdom (WIS): 71 (10) ... 71 (10)
Influence (INF): 33 (-8) ... 33 (-8)


Two Weapon Combat..................| 120 30
Armor Use..........................| 82 18
Combat Maneuvers...................| 82 18
Edged Weapons......................| 120 30
Ambush.............................| 120 30
Physical Fitness...................| 96 22
Magic Item Use.....................| 50 10
Disarming Traps....................| 105 25
Picking Locks......................| 105 25
Stalking and Hiding................| 128 34
Perception.........................| 128 34
Climbing...........................| 20 4
Swimming...........................| 20 4
Pickpocketing......................| 120 30

Oh yeah..she's also a level 13 sylvan.

[Edited on 7-22-2004 by Jesae]

[Bobmuhthol]

Not good.

[Drew]

If you are going to train in edged weapon isn't it worth it to have at least 1x shield training? That way you have the option of fighting like that if two weapons is stalling out a bit somewhere.


That being said, it looks like you have no dodging, you'd really do well to *at least* go with 1x but as close to 2x as you can get would be even better. You could start by lowering your CM to 1x and using those points to pick up dodge and then go from there.

[Parkbandit]

Allow me Jesae...

First of all, your constitution is too low. Raise it up and sacrifice some mental stats to do it.


Second of all.. since you are not training in shields (Which I agree with by the way) you should be at a MINIMUM of 2x dodging. Why the 3x perception? It doesn't help all that much unless you are an archer. At most I would be 2x in that. Also, why the magic item ranks? If you have a specific magical item you need those ranks for.. then so be it. Personally.. unless it's an unlimited camo/ranger strength or that type of item.. I would drop that to nothing for the time being.

[Shari]

Thanks for the info guys. Except Bob, you suck.

I'm going to tweak some things, constitution, drop some perception, and get some dodging in there.

I have the magic use because I bought some crap on the Dhu that I'd like to be able to use. I hate begging other people for spells so I figured it would just be easier having ranks in MIU.

[Edaarin]

DIS is placed way too high, and it wouldn't hurt to drop STR some either.

You don't need to do more than 2x hide.

You don't need more than 2x perception, especially with two weapons.

You NEED 2x dodging, if you're going to use two weapons.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Edaarin
You NEED 2x dodging, if you're going to use two weapons.


Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but why exactly does she need 2x? The extra DS since she won't be using the shield? Or something else I'm not thinking of?

[Bobmuhthol]

The extra ability to dodge.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
The extra ability to dodge.


Ignoring the fact that you're most likely being a wiseass Bob, I'll take this at face value. That's basically what I was asking is he recommending it because of the extra DS or dodging manuever attacks.

[Back]

You might come off armor a bit. TWC's whole modus operandi in combat is NOT getting hit. If you plan to hide and ambush, even moreso. In fact, based on that, forget dodge.

If you are at 13, and its working, keep going. Too bad you can''t get some spells in. That would suit a shadowy swashbuckling sylvan.

What weapons she using?

[Gan]

Here's a link to an older thread where rogue training was discussed some. There might be others if you look back further in the Rogue folder, just thought this would get you pointed in some additional directions.

Hope this helps.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/viewthread.php?tid=6782&page=1

[Axhinde]

I do know one thing, she has a nice fan and is fun to be on the Dhu with. Not that I would know, just what I've heard.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Backlash
You might come off armor a bit. TWC's whole modus operandi in combat is NOT getting hit. If you plan to hide and ambush, even moreso. In fact, based on that, forget dodge.



I'm certain that the 'modus operandi' of most players is NOT getting hit... but with every ambush there is at least a 5% chance of a parry.. and this does not include the new dodge or shield block mechanics. You need the heavier armor when you miss or when you have multiple critters in a room. Same with the dodging.

[fallenSaint]

Along with agreeing with the others I might suggest a bit more CM but that may be just my personal taste kicking in.