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CrystalTears
07-22-2004, 02:28 AM
Weapon Conversion · on 7/21/2004 7:41:01 PM 751


GM Mestys has created weapon conversion chambers and placed them in the arms and weapon shops in all major towns. Weapons of the correct noun, but of the wrong base, can be placed into the chambers in order to update them to their correct form.

These chambers will be useful to owners of older weapons, including claidhmores, flamberges, katanas, and mauls (sledges and sledgehammers).

All characteristics of the weapon prior to conversion will be present post-conversion, with the exception of old-style claidhmores, which will receive a +10 bonus to offset the difference in AvD. The conversions are completely voluntary, and cannot be undone.

This conversion is permanent. If you are unsure if you should convert your weapon, please post your question in the Weapons, Armor and Items Folder, Developer's Corner - Weapons and Armor Subfolder or place an assist with a GameHost and ask to speak with a GameMaster.

Information on weapons can be found at: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/armory/

This message was originally posted in Weapons, Armor and Items, Developer's Corner - Weapons and Armor. To discuss the above follow the link below.

http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=14&topic=2&message =135

Skirmisher
07-22-2004, 02:31 AM
Why would someone want to convert a weapon?

Blazing247
07-22-2004, 02:32 AM
Uh, so those old school dwarven claids which are actually greatsword based will now be claid based with earth crits??

Chadj
07-22-2004, 02:40 AM
Sweet.

Skirmisher
07-22-2004, 02:49 AM
Or perhaps they will be turned into greatswords with earth crits?

Blazing247
07-22-2004, 02:52 AM
<<Or perhaps they will be turned into greatswords with earth crits?>>

"Weapons of the correct noun, but of the wrong base, can be placed into the chambers in order to update them to their correct form. "

Unless I'm misunderstanding the announcement, no.

Kitsun
07-22-2004, 02:57 AM
Well the GM behind the coverter said that the old OHE katanas wouldn't get the natural crit weighting bonus of the new style ones.

So along those lines, it might get the DF of a claid, retain the flares but not get the crit weighting.

I'd ask on the boards or assist about it before trying but that is an interesting point.

Bobmuhthol
07-22-2004, 03:07 AM
To anyone that converts an old-style katana: You're an idiot.

Also:

<<with the exception of old-style claidhmores, which will receive a +10 bonus to offset the difference in AvD.>>

Apparently old-style claidhmores remain greatswords and therefore have a higher DF... quite the conversion there.

Blazing247
07-22-2004, 03:09 AM
<So along those lines, it might get the DF of a claid, retain the flares but not get the crit weighting.

I'd ask on the boards or assist about it before trying but that is an interesting point. >

Essentially, old school claids were nothing BUT greatswords with tons of crit weighting on them. I'm not familiar with new claids, but a claid without the crit weighting back in the day would be a...greatsword.

Bobmuhthol
07-22-2004, 03:11 AM
<<but a claid without the crit weighting back in the day would be a...greatsword.>>

Yes. They were greatsword based and just had a shitload of weighting.

Now, a claidhmore is its own base, and is not a claidhmore unless it has the weighting. Their DFs remained the same when greatsword DFs were raised.

Drew
07-22-2004, 03:30 AM
I converted my dwarven claidhmore for the hell of it... it still has vibe crits, it's got the AvD of a claidhmore but I don't think it has any weighting, I'll have to give it a few more swings and find out. I highly doubt it has any weighting.

The weirdest thing about the conversion was that it went up an enchant. But since I lost 10 on the AvD conversion I won't complain. I never use it anyway.

Artha
07-22-2004, 10:15 AM
It's impossible to have both weighting and flares.

Jonty
07-22-2004, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Drew
I converted my dwarven claidhmore for the hell of it... it still has vibe crits, it's got the AvD of a claidhmore but I don't think it has any weighting, I'll have to give it a few more swings and find out. I highly doubt it has any weighting.

I had one of those claids a while ago; they didn't have weighting in the first place.



The weirdest thing about the conversion was that it went up an enchant. But since I lost 10 on the AvD conversion I won't complain. I never use it anyway.

I don't know if they were old style claids or not, but if it was, it should have gone up two enchants instead.

Drew
07-22-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Jonty

I had one of those claids a while ago; they didn't have weighting in the first place.

I don't know if they were old style claids or not, but if it was, it should have gone up two enchants instead.

I realize it had no weighting, and the fact that it has vibe flares still means that in less something extraordinary has happened (which I don't believe has) it still has no weighting. It wasn't a claidhmore at all, but a greatsword base 3x enchanted, with flares. It was just named a claidhmore.

I'm pretty sure that all that was done is the AvD of the weapon was lowered and the Damage factor was brought down a notch. I converted within about 2 minutes of the annoucement before they'd released any info other than the news item.

I didn't have any expectations but figured, what the hell I'd give it a shot, the weapon has just sat in a locker for years anyway.

[Edited on 7-22-2004 by Drew]

Nakiro
07-23-2004, 04:30 AM
I already asked about this. That claid (which is now a claidh) is just a claidh with out weighting and vibe flares instead.

Keeping it as a great sword would've been better since it would've had a higher DF.