ITT: We discuss legal peccadilloes for our general amusement.

[Drew]

Dear PC lawyers, armchair lawyers and lawyers who are armchairs. I have a couple legal trivialities that I want to discuss with you, what do you think about either of these scenarios?

Scenario 1: The people who go around and put leaflets under your windshield wiper at parking lots for big events. First off, for whatever reason I hate these people so much. I think the appropriate punishment for doing this is to be ass-raped by barb-dicked cock-demons. Having said that when I do get these leaflets I unfasten them from my window wiper and then get in my car and drive off. Eventually, at some point, nature blows them off my car onto the ground. Am I littering? I dislike the idea that it is because then these people are giving me work to do. I have to take their fliers and transport them and throw them away somewhere. It seems similar to me dumping my trash on my neighbors lawn then calling code enforcement on them because they have a dirty lawn.


Scenario 2: I take my friend's keys to prevent him from drunk driving. He is extremely upset and insists I give him the keys. I refuse, eventually he goes home via cab. The next day he calls the police and says I stole his car/car keys. He admits to having one drink but insists he was under the legal limit and could have driven home. He says I illegally denied him access to his property and cost him money. What happens in this case?

[diethx]

PECCADILDOES

[Tgo01]

Scenario 1: Yes you are littering you bastard.
Scenario 2: Not sure really but I'd suggest you get better friends.

[Drew]

PECCADILDOES

AMIRITE?

[AnticorRifling]

Tell the cops he was plowed, if he wasn't why didn't he call them last night to settle the matter?

[AnticorRifling]

And yes you're littering.

[Drew]

And yes you're littering.

But the people walking around with the fliers aren't?

[msconstrew]

But the people walking around with the fliers aren't?

Their potential littering does not impact the analysis of whether your act constitutes littering.

[diethx]

You should leave a sign taped to the inside of your windshield that says, "If you leave a flyer, I'll make my way to your place of business and shove it down your throat".

PECCADILDOESSSSSSSSSSS

[Tgo01]

You should leave a sign taped to the inside of your windshield that says, "If you leave a flyer, I'll make my way to your place of business and shove it down your throat".

Those poor kids at the Sunny Hug Time Daycare are going to be traumatized.

[diethx]

Even better!!!!

[Drew]

Their potential littering does not impact the analysis of whether your act constitutes littering.

That's fair, I would argue that I never actually took possession of the flyers in question so it's impossible that I littered. I don't think someone can change ownership of an item simply by placing it on something I own.

[Archigeek]

That's fair, I would argue that I never actually took possession of the flyers in question so it's impossible that I littered. I don't think someone can change ownership of an item simply by placing it on something I own.

Stop whining. Yeah they dumped that crap on you, but just crumple it up. throw it in the trash and move on with your life. Or, after stealthfully IDing the car of the offending flyer poster, you could wander the parking lot, removing every last one of them, spray them with water, and plaster them all over their car? This could lead to a fist fight and/or youtube fame.

[Tgo01]

That's fair, I would argue that I never actually took possession of the flyers in question so it's impossible that I littered. I don't think someone can change ownership of an item simply by placing it on something I own.

I don't think it's really a case of the item in question changing ownership. If someone dumped 10 garbage bags of shit on my yard I don't think I'm legally allowed to throw it all in the street because it's not my garbage.

[WRoss]

How come someone can pay someone to film them having sex, even with themselves, but in the absence of a camera, it is illegal?

[SpunGirl]

How come someone can pay someone to film them having sex, even with themselves, but in the absence of a camera, it is illegal?

I have ALWAYS wondered this. I think it's because they're not paying each other, or one paying the other... they're "acting."

[Drew]

How come someone can pay someone to film them having sex, even with themselves, but in the absence of a camera, it is illegal?

There have been several cases where a john has filmed his act with a prostitute and claimed they were making a pornography.


EDIT: By the way it's because porn actors are expressing themselves and expression is a constitutionally protected right. Johns are gratifying themselves and gratification is not protected.

[Tisket]

Scenario 2: I take my friend's keys to prevent him from drunk driving. He is extremely upset and insists I give him the keys. I refuse, eventually he goes home via cab. The next day he calls the police and says I stole his car/car keys. He admits to having one drink but insists he was under the legal limit and could have driven home. He says I illegally denied him access to his property and cost him money. What happens in this case?

So your friend called the cops on you after he sobered up? Maybe I'm too unforgiving but, I think I'd stop calling him a "friend" at that point.

[WRoss]

There have been several cases where a john has filmed his act with a prostitute and claimed they were making a pornography.


EDIT: By the way it's because porn actors are expressing themselves and expression is a constitutionally protected right. Johns are gratifying themselves and gratification is not protected.

/sarcasm

[SHAFT]

Talk about prostitutes gets me excited. Speaking of, hi tisket

[Tisket]

You can't afford me.

[Stanley Burrell]

Scenario 1: Sometimes, you have to be a bitch. This means doing things like getting down on your knees and begging your friend to give you the keys. Really loudly. Say some shit like you'll suck his dick. Now, if he whips it out and calls you on it, it works like a bro-icing and you gotta do the nasty, sorry, thems the rules.

#B) So, just find like fifty million little coupon snippet whatevers and glue them all over your ride. How the fuck are those motherfuckers supposed to put their little coupon snippet whatevers on your motor vehicle when it would bend thermodynamic law trying to bend space-time.

Edit: Sincerly, an armchair.

[SpunGirl]

I have had a situation somewhat similar to the flyer situation. Our local paper puts out a free Wednesday edition that is shit, I can read whatever I need to online, and I got tired of picking this shit up off my driveway every Wednesday and putting it directly into the recycle bin. So I called the circulation office and asked them to strike us from the list of people getting this crap paper. Three weeks later, it's still showing up, so I called again. I called a total of four times and I was STILL GETTING THE FUCKING CRAP PAPER. I realize this is a somewhat insignificant problem, but now I'm on a fucking mission. I called them again and told them if they put their paper on my driveway again, I would call the police and file a littering complaint. (I wouldn't really do that, but I thought it sounded fair at the time). I do not get the shit paper any more.

-K

[4a6c1]

The people with big ass trucks who think the (2 per level) motorcycle parking lanes in multi level parking garages are an invitation for them to park their unnecessarily oversized and inconvenient piece of shit vehicles diagonally. Fucking hate those bastards.

lol @ flyers. I love those things. In my area they mean garage performances or a new dj in town. Gud 2 no. U no?

[Warriorbird]

The people with big ass trucks who think the (2 per level) motorcycle parking lanes in multi level parking garages are an invitation for them to park their unnecessarily oversized and inconvenient piece of shit vehicles diagonally. Fucking hate those bastards.

lol @ flyers. I love those things. In my area they mean garage performances or a new dj in town. Gud 2 no. U no?

You chose to live in Texas.

[4a6c1]

Two more years and I'm a free bird!

[Warriorbird]

Two more years and I'm a free bird!

This made me think of a mashup of The Streets and Lynrd Skynrd. That could either be the greatest ever or the worst ever.

[4a6c1]

Hahaha!

Greatest ever!

[Reliel]

Yell at the flier people.

/solved

[4a6c1]

Yell at the flier people.

/solved

I've noticed you have the same solution for multiple problems. That's weird.

[SHAFT]

You can't afford me.

My charm is irresistible. I wouldn't have to.

[Kitsun]

I've noticed you have the same solution for multiple problems. That's weird.

There is a Russian proverb that roughly translates into: When the only tool that you have is a hammer, you approach every problem like it is a nail.

[4a6c1]

And Dostoevsky would say to that, "but the poetry of the Russian soul makes the hammer the wind and the nail a flower. The Russian soul is immortal and touches all things as only God would intend!"

Thats right. I just one upped you on philosophy. WUT NAO Kitty kitty.

[Reliel]

I've noticed you have the same solution for multiple problems. That's weird.

I can't help it. I'm Dragon Born.