2HW rogue

[Artha]

Well, ranged has finally pissed me off enough that I'm switching. Unfortunately, no Fixskills left, so I'll be doing it the slow way and don't want to fuck up. Advice plz.

Str 75
Con 70
Dex 80
Agl 80
Dis 70
Aur 70
Log 75
Int 40
Wis 60
Inf 40

2x 2HW
2x Ambush
2x Dodging
2x Stalking and Hiding
1.5x CM
1.5x PF
1x Perception
1x armor to 30
20 ranks Arcane Symbols
10 ranks of Climbing
10 ranks of Swimming
5 ranks of spells
3 ranks of harness power

After 30, I'm stopping armor and not training climbing, swimming, or AS, so I'll have a bunch more points to put into PF and spells. Tsoran's spreadsheet says I'll have ~11% redux.

Looks good. I have picking skills with mine, but with those skills you'll be able to hunt fine.

[Artha]

Picking's fun, but I can probably get it easy enough and for free that it's not really important. I wish I could figure out a way to get 1 more spell rank, but it's just not working.

[Artha]

Aone (at level 28), your base skill bonuses, ranks and goals are:
Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 120 30 30
Combat Maneuvers...................| 45 9 44 ASAP (will rise when points are available)
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 0 0 60 ASAP (will rise when points are available)
Ranged Weapons.....................| 159 59.977 0 224 in-game hours
Ambush.............................| 160 60 60
Physical Fitness...................| 144 44 44
Dodging............................| 160 60 60
Arcane Symbols.....................| 90 20 20
Harness Power......................| 10 2 2
Disarming Traps....................| 171 71.965 0 114 in-game hours
Picking Locks......................| 171 71.965 0 114 in-game hours
Stalking and Hiding................| 171 71.965 60 39 in-game hours
Perception.........................| 159 59.930 30 49 in-game hours
Climbing...........................| 86 19.860 10 8 in-game hours
Swimming...........................| 86 19.930 10 16 in-game hours
Pickpocketing......................| 159 59.930 0 74 in-game hours

I think I'm going to cry.

[StrayRogue]

That plan sucks. There will only ever be one true 2HW wielding rogue. Don't bother either if you have a shitty two hander too. You lack the DS or the fortitude to take harder shots.

[Artha]

That plan sucks.

WTF's wrong with it?


As for two handers, I'm looking for a 6x greatsword. You know, if you have one you want to sell.

[Trinitis]

A few personal thoughts...


I had a 2HW Rogue back in GS3, and had a blast!

But, I'd stick to the faster 2 handers. Bastard swords, being the key IMO.

Also, why only 10 ranks of climb/swim? Your gonna need a lot more then that, they are putting climb/swim restrictions in a lot of places as of late.

[Artha]

10'll get you most places around 30. Since I'll stop doing armor, I'll have a bunch of extra points to toss back into climbing and swimming after 30.

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Artha
10'll get you most places around 30. Since I'll stop doing armor, I'll have a bunch of extra points to toss back into climbing and swimming after 30.

Ah, ok. I saw "I'm not going to train in climb/swim" was like.. WTF?!

;)

The bonus, as your training, you won't have the extra weight of 4-5 picks, a kit, and normally a container to hold them all. So, having two different weapon types on you would be great. A claid for animal based critters (they all have a huge perception for their age..which makes it hard to hide.), and like I mentioned before, a bastard sword for ambushing.

[Artha]

I also get to get rid of this bow and quiver. Yay.

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Artha
I also get to get rid of this bow and quiver. Yay.

Mind if I ask why your dumping ranged? I've got a rogue I'm still fighting with myself on training. I had him Ranged once, and loved it (was huntin like a mad man), but I also wanna do a "dagger expert" RP set up, using gambits and thrown/edged training. Can't deside which.

[Artha]

Can't kill things in higher armor (without doing like 10 shots) and higher chance of evasion (arrow flies wide, sails away never to be seen again!). I also suck if I can't get eblade, and hate waiting for eblade scrolls to hunt.

[Trinitis]

....Hmm, odd. My rogue was 15. Trained non-picking archer. He was fully trained for brig, and fully trained for archer (2x ranged, 2x ambush, 2x perception, 2x PT, etc etc). He had 4 spells at level 15, and he was killing Wall Guardians, who wear full chain armor. I always aimed for the eyes, and killed first shot like 90% of the time. The older critters just get insaine?

[Artha]

Perhaps. I don't have much of a problem with chain, but MBP and higher are a pain in the ass.

[Trinitis]

hey Artha :

http://www.crystalamulet.com/product.php?productid=26224

[Artha]

Heh, yeah, guy offered it to me earlier. I don't really care about blessable though, and I could get basically the same thing for less. I also heard someone was selling a +18 incredibly damage weighted maul for 3 million, I'm wondering if that's what I should get.

[Red Devil]

Originally posted by Artha
Heh, yeah, guy offered it to me earlier. I don't really care about blessable though, and I could get basically the same thing for less. I also heard someone was selling a +18 incredibly damage weighted maul for 3 million, I'm wondering if that's what I should get.

ash black mauk?! those are pwn but if i remember correctly they have SHIT for breakage

[Artha]

Not really sure, I was just told Nathan was selling it after I asked around on the amunet.

[Edaarin]

Ranged is just less efficient than pretty much any other training method. The weapon selection is considerably worse. Sniping is a lot more difficult than it used to be. It's slower, unless you're a Giant. Good luck killing things like constructs (though I didn't have any problems at all using archery against Illoke).

THW is nice, but once you get to a certain level it's just no necessary. I can clear a room of things faster than a THW rogue my level, pick, and (were I to drop a bit of CM) e-wave. Sure, you do more damage, but 100 damage or 40 damage, a death crit is a death crit.

[Artha]

THW is nice, but once you get to a certain level it's just no necessary.

I'm sure once I get to that level, I'll have at least one more fixskills.

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Edaarin
Ranged is just less efficient than pretty much any other training method. The weapon selection is considerably worse. Sniping is a lot more difficult than it used to be. It's slower, unless you're a Giant. Good luck killing things like constructs (though I didn't have any problems at all using archery against Illoke).

THW is nice, but once you get to a certain level it's just no necessary. I can clear a room of things faster than a THW rogue my level, pick, and (were I to drop a bit of CM) e-wave. Sure, you do more damage, but 100 damage or 40 damage, a death crit is a death crit.

Yeh..Thats the main reason why I dumped my THW Rogue in GS3. He ambushed with a claidhmore..and it was just overkill. I could do the same with a short sword and in less round time.

Now in GS4, that claid ambush is more appealing. heh.

[Drektor]

Who's the true twohanded weapon using rogue?

[Edaarin]

I can't think of many who used two handed weapons from level 0 and got to any significant level. Rhys' rogue, who I think is like level 40, is the only one that comes to mind.

[Artha]

Who's the true twohanded weapon using rogue?

Stay.

[Drektor]

Never heard of em.