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xShadowMerchantx
07-10-2004, 02:59 PM
Not so much that they suck but more that...

It takes 6 fucking stamina points per sweep.

What dumbass came up with that idea? I'm thinking of just doing cml sweep because its fucking stupid to train in guild sweep when they both take stamina

Artha
07-10-2004, 02:59 PM
25 for subdue is worse.

xShadowMerchantx
07-10-2004, 03:06 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?

xShadowMerchantx
07-10-2004, 03:08 PM
Someone list the other costs?

Artha
07-10-2004, 03:32 PM
Those are basically the only two you'll use, since cheapshots are completely worthless.

Bobmuhthol
07-10-2004, 03:54 PM
You do realize 6 stamina is nothing, right? In fact, that's one of the lowest costs you'll ever get.

xShadowMerchantx
07-10-2004, 03:57 PM
Didn't know but thanks for the info.


All I know is they used to be cost free... an now it costs.. 15-20% of the stamina I have per shot.

Bobmuhthol
07-10-2004, 04:02 PM
They used to be cost free because stamina did not exist.

But, it does suck because it's putting squares on the limit that semis/pures have of mana, which is basically the only advantage squares had.

Artha
07-10-2004, 04:09 PM
The only thing is that stamina comes back faster. It's still a bitch for guild reps, when you can make 2 or 3 attempts before you have to quit until your stamina regens.

Edaarin
07-10-2004, 07:31 PM
6 is the lowest you'll ever see for a guild skill. Every 10 ranks or so (at least for stunmaneuvers), stamina cost goes up as well.

Current cost for me, mastered in all of the rogue guild combat skills

Sweep - 12
Cheapshot - 8
Stun maneuvers - 15
Subdue - 30

gcstader
07-10-2004, 08:00 PM
<< that's one of the lowest costs you'll ever get >>

Not to be picky but cman cmovement is only 5 stamina. ;)

~Greg

AnticorRifling
07-10-2004, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by gcstader
<< that's one of the lowest costs you'll ever get >>

Not to be picky but cman cmovement is only 5 stamina. ;)

~Greg

They are talking costs of stamina in relation to GUILD skills not the CMAN list.