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diethx
07-31-2012, 02:26 PM
Has anyone taken one? Know of a really great sample test online? I've done some googling but found nothing with a broad range of questions.
I have to take one tomorrow apparently, and I've become fairly calculator-dependent over the past few years. lol
Do you know if it's anything like the TEAS exam for nursing?
SHAFT
07-31-2012, 02:36 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/tumblr_lqvne5lxj11qlwkpho1_400.jpg
diethx
07-31-2012, 02:42 PM
Ha. Is that a football player 'shopped into that pic?
SHAFT
07-31-2012, 02:46 PM
It's Vince Young. He notorious for having one of the worst Wonderlic scores of all time. He's not very smart.
diethx
07-31-2012, 02:56 PM
I guess it's good for him that he was good at football. (I'm assuming he was good at football).
Makkah
07-31-2012, 03:02 PM
He's shit.
TheEschaton
07-31-2012, 03:02 PM
He would have been the greatest, if he could read a defense. IE was intelligent.
Wheelerm
07-31-2012, 03:09 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/tumblr_lqvne5lxj11qlwkpho1_400.jpg
>aim neck
You're now aiming at the neck of Vince Young when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>grapple
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to grapple Vince Young!
You have excellent positioning against Vince Young.
UAF: 669 vs UDF: 468 = 1.429 * MM: 104 + d100: 46 = 194
... and hit for 43 points of damage!
Hands wrap around neck, reducing blood flow to the brain. That's the stuff dreams are made of!
The Vince Young is unaffected!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
diethx
07-31-2012, 04:47 PM
So I guess that means no one's taken it. :/
Bobmuhthol
07-31-2012, 06:11 PM
I haven't taken one but it's a pretty standard test. 50 questions, if you have a brain you can solve them. If you're Ryan Fitzpatrick you can solve them really well.
TheEschaton
07-31-2012, 06:18 PM
YEAH FITZY, LET'S GO BUFFALO.
4a6c1
07-31-2012, 06:46 PM
Well. I don't like to brag but I scored over 9000 on the Wonderlic Test.
Warriorbird
07-31-2012, 06:48 PM
Well. I don't like to brag but I scored over 9000 on the Wonderlic Test.
You are the most wonderful lich any of us know!
Androidpk
07-31-2012, 06:55 PM
I see the word wonderlic and a standard test is not the first thing that pops up in my head..
DoctorUnne
07-31-2012, 06:58 PM
Every NFL player takes it before the draft so that is why the test is well known. The questions are very easy, stuff like "Bob is twice as old as his sister Jill. Bob is ten years old. How old is Jill"? Or it will give a word and ask you for its opposite and give you four choices. You get points for accuracy as well as speed. The max is a 50 and a few of the smarter NFL players have scored that. The average score for a QB (which I would probably equate to slightly better than average intelligence overall) is like a 35 I think. The dumbest players have scored in the single digits.
4a6c1
07-31-2012, 06:59 PM
You are the most wonderful lich any of us know!
http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/1/1e/Over_9000_Vector_by_Vernacular.jpg/618px-Over_9000_Vector_by_Vernacular.jpg
4a6c1
07-31-2012, 07:03 PM
Every NFL player takes it before the draft so that is why the test is well known. The questions are very easy, stuff like "Bob is twice as old as his sister Jill. Bob is ten years old. How old is Jill"? Or it will give a word and ask you for its opposite and give you four choices. You get points for accuracy as well as speed. The max is a 50 and a few of the smarter NFL players have scored that. The average score for a QB (which I would probably equate to slightly better than average intelligence overall) is like a 35 I think. The dumbest players have scored in the single digits.
That's interesting. I guess it makes sense that those guys would need to have a pretty natural instinct when it comes to geospatial reasoning, planning etc. Awesome. I never knew the NFL tested players in this way and I'm impressed.
TheEschaton
07-31-2012, 07:03 PM
Every NFL player takes it before the draft so that is why the test is well known. The questions are very easy, stuff like "Bob is twice as old as his sister Jill. Bob is ten years old. How old is Jill"? Or it will give a word and ask you for its opposite and give you four choices. You get points for accuracy as well as speed. The max is a 50 and a few of the smarter NFL players have scored that. The average score for a QB (which I would probably equate to slightly better than average intelligence overall) is like a 35 I think. The dumbest players have scored in the single digits.
And our QB, who is Harvard educated, scored somewhere in the high 40s (the general consensus is 48, and he admitted to leaving one question blank, making his max possible score 49), and set a speed record by completing it in 9 minutes. AFAIK though, 50s aren't common amongst NFL players.
Androidpk
07-31-2012, 07:08 PM
Vince Young scored a 15 at least, David Garrard got a 1.
DoctorUnne
07-31-2012, 07:08 PM
I think 1-2 people a year at most may score a 49 or 50 out of a pool of like 250 people. Average score for a football player is probably in the mid-to-high 20's. But then you have to consider that the average football player is likely not as smart as the average person. Offensive linemen as a group actually score better than QBs I think. QBs are 2nd. RBs are probably last.
DoctorUnne
07-31-2012, 07:11 PM
Ok so apparently 50's are rarer than I thought. Looks like only one in history, as well as a few 48s and 49s. Morris Claiborne got a 4 haha.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1130834-nfl-draft-2012-the-5-best-and-the-5-worst-wonderlic-scores-in-nfl-history#/articles/1130834-nfl-draft-2012-the-5-best-and-the-5-worst-wonderlic-scores-in-nfl-history/page/13
Wonderlic, Inc. claims that a score of at least 10 points suggests a person is literate, and the average football player scores around 20 points.
Median score by professionListed are a sample of median scores by profession on the Wonderlic test from 1983. The scores are listed in descending numerical order, and professions with the same score have been alphabetized.[12]
Systems Analyst – 32
Chemist – 31
Electrical Engineer – 30
Engineer – 29
Programmer – 29
Accountant – 28
Executive – 28
Reporter – 28
Teacher – 28
Copywriter – 27
Investment Analyst – 27
Librarian – 27
Electronics technician – 26
Salesperson – 25
Secretary – 24
Dispatcher – 23
Drafter – 23
Electrician – 23
Nurse – 23
Bank teller – 22
Cashier – 21
Firefighter – 21
General Clerical worker – 21
Machinist – 21
Receptionist – 21
Train Conductor – 21
Skilled Craftsman – 18
Security guard – 17
Welder – 17
Warehouseman – 15
Krolvin Warrior - 11
[edit] Average score in the NFL by positionThough used in a variety of settings, the Wonderlic test has become best known for its use in the NFL's Scouting Combine. According to Paul Zimmerman's The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football, the average score of a NFL player according to position is the following:
Offensive tackle – 26
Center – 25
Quarterback – 24 (Most teams want at least 21 for a quarterback.)[20]
Guard – 23
Tight end – 22
Safety – 19
Linebacker – 19
Cornerback – 18
Wide receiver – 17
Fullback – 17
Halfback – 16
subzero
07-31-2012, 07:27 PM
That's interesting. I guess it makes sense that those guys would need to have a pretty natural instinct when it comes to geospatial reasoning, planning etc. Awesome. I never knew the NFL tested players in this way and I'm impressed.
It's a pretty useless test, at least as far as the NFL goes. Marino scored pretty horribly on the test, but I think it's safe to say he was a pretty damn good QB. Then you have DBs, where the better players tend to have lower scores.
Morris Claiborne got a 4 haha.
And he'll probably be awesome.
Asile
07-31-2012, 08:21 PM
Median score by professionListed are a sample of median scores by profession on the Wonderlic test from 1983. The scores are listed in descending numerical order, and professions with the same score have been alphabetized.[12]
Systems Analyst – 32
Chemist – 31
Electrical Engineer – 30
Engineer – 29
Programmer – 29
Accountant – 28
Executive – 28
Reporter – 28
Teacher – 28
Copywriter – 27
Investment Analyst – 27
Librarian – 27
Electronics technician – 26
Salesperson – 25
Secretary – 24
Dispatcher – 23
Drafter – 23
Electrician – 23
Nurse – 23
Bank teller – 22
Cashier – 21
Firefighter – 21
General Clerical worker – 21
Machinist – 21
Receptionist – 21
Train Conductor – 21
Skilled Craftsman – 18
Security guard – 17
Welder – 17
Warehouseman – 15
Krolvin Warrior - 11
I'm surprised they're even that smart.
TheEschaton
07-31-2012, 09:11 PM
I mean, Ryan Fitzpatrick is probably by far the highest score among starting QBs in the NFL. But even as a Bills fan, I can't say he's even in the top half of QBs in the league. Maybe. On a good day.
You know what gets in his way? He overthinks shit, and by then it's too late. Football kind of encourages not thinking, to a certain extent, and you only need a certain intelligence to memorize plays and read defenses.
diethx
07-31-2012, 09:34 PM
Yeah, I've seen a few samples that make the questions look pretty easy, and then I saw some others where the questions weren't hard, but were taking me awhile to solve them. Like multi-step long division shit which I am sorry to say, I am not so quick with anymore. I can't remember the last time I actually did long division before today. The recruiter said I get 12 minutes at first for the 50 questions, so I'm graded on speed and how well I do under pressure, but then I'm given more time to finish and graded on how well I do when I have all the time in the world. I was just wondering how much each part is weighted, etc. Because I'm sure as fuck not doing 50 long division problems in 12 minutes, lol.
Bobmuhthol
08-01-2012, 01:22 AM
You get points for accuracy as well as speed.
Pretty sure there is no benefit to finishing faster.
I was just wondering how much each part is weighted, etc.
It's 50 random questions and they're all worth 1 point.
diethx
08-01-2012, 08:50 AM
Ok, so basically don't worry about how many I can finish in 12 minutes and just worry about how many I can finish correctly. Thanks!
WRoss
08-01-2012, 11:47 AM
This is how I cheat at multiplication:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih1ZWE3pe9o
DoctorUnne
08-01-2012, 12:26 PM
Ok, so basically don't worry about how many I can finish in 12 minutes and just worry about how many I can finish correctly. Thanks!
I think Bob is probably right, but what that means is there's no added benefit to finishing all 50 questions in 9 minutes vs. 11 minutes. You still lose points if you don't get to all the questions in the 12 minutes because each question is worth a point.
And I would bet the average person does not finish all 50 in time, so in effect speed does matter up to a point. I took a sample test once that was supposed to be similar and while it's not too difficult to finish if you're good at mental math, you can't dally.
diethx
08-01-2012, 05:55 PM
Well either way, I guess I did well enough this morning - already notified I'm going back for the 2nd interview with my potential immediate supervisor.
4a6c1
08-01-2012, 06:05 PM
lol
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