Legal help

[Xcalibur]

My gf was eating cookies when she found one that had an insect INSIDE it.

I told her to seal off that cookie and to show it to me.

It's really disgusting when you consider that 99% of the time you take handful of cookies and eat em without looking at em.

Anyone knows if I could sue the bastards (kraft) and win millions because of that cookie?

[Syberus]

I don't think you can unless she ate the bug and has suffered some kind of physical or mental ailment from doing so, but I'm not positive.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I don't think you can unless she ate the bug and has suffered some kind of physical or mental ailment from doing so, but I'm not positive.>>

I'm sure it violates some health regulation, though.

[Syberus]

Most def, but I'm not sure you can necessarily get millions of dollars because of that, I was just guessing.

[Xcalibur]

MY point to her was the following: You can east ants and not be ill, still, by HAVING the cookie and sealing it, you're proving it was them that had the problem AND that it can happen.

So maybe we ate like 400 cookies with bugs in em, maybe none, but hey...

[Nieninque]

Fucking hell, she has to live with worse.

Try not buying cookies in third world countries :thumbsup:

[SpunGirl]

Haha.

-K

[Latrinsorm]

I doubt very much that the Canadian legal system considers what you have as undeniable proof.

I would suggest just not buying from Kraft or calling an exterminator.

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
MY point to her was the following: You can east ants and not be ill, still, by HAVING the cookie and sealing it, you're proving it was them that had the problem AND that it can happen.

So maybe we ate like 400 cookies with bugs in em, maybe none, but hey...


The average human eats lots of bugs in a lifetime.

Chocolate alone has a % of bugs in it. But it's kept at a small enough of a % that it is not needed to be listed as a product inside it.

[Trinitis]

Did a bit of searching...


"Most Americans consume over a pound of insects without even realizing it. Chocolate is considered by most to be a woman’s best friend…right? Well consider this. 100 grams of chocolate contains an average of 80 insect fragments. Convert this average to a regular Hershey’s milk chocolate bar, which is 43 grams of chocolate. Every time you eat a regular Hershey’s milk chocolate bar, you consume around 34 insect fragments. A couple more averages. For all the peanut butter lover’s, 100 grams of peanut butter contains an average of 60 insect fragments. Here’s an interesting one, any tomato sauce, pizza sauce for example, contains 30 eggs or 2 maggots per hundred grams. Are you a health food nut? Well, 75 insect fragments makes 50 grams of wheat flour a little bit more healthy. These are just a couple examples of common everyday foods that contain insects. The FDA will allow a certain amount of insects, whether its fragments, eggs, or larva, in all the food it inspects. Think about that before you deny the fact that you have eaten insects. Almost every food you eat contains insects in some way or another, and it hasn’t harmed anyone yet. "

Edit to add :

Also because I'm bored, here is the law that allows this via the FDA website.

"It depends on whether the trace ingredient is present in a significant amount and has a function in the finished food. If a substance is an incidental additive and has no function or technical effect in the finished product, then it need not be declared on the label. An incidental additive is usually present because it is an ingredient of another ingredient. Sulfites are considered to be incidental only if present at less than 10 ppm.
21 CFR 101.100(a)(3)"

[Edited on 5-29-2005 by Adredrin]

[Lord Dainslef]

Spam! It's gotta have some kinda bugs in it right?

:spam2:

[cookiemonster]

You can't sue em, simply because you can't prove the bug wasn't put there, or didnt crawl in there at the grocery store.

You could have sued them if there was a razor blade though, funny that.

[Snapp]

Originally posted by Nieninque
Fucking hell, she has to live with worse.
:yeahthat: She should sue X.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Who isn't surprised that X is the kind that would sue for MILLIONS over that?

[Tsa`ah]

Why am I not surprised that X wants a payday for finding a bug in a cookie.

How about this, E-mail Kraft and let them know. They will respond with an apology, maybe even send you bunch of free shit for the trouble.

Shit happens and it's fucks like you; the kind that thinks get rich through legal action, that end up making the rest of us consumers pay out the nose.

Throw the cookie away and get on with your life.

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
Why am I not surprised that X wants a payday for finding a bug in a cookie.

How about this, E-mail Kraft and let them know. They will respond with an apology, maybe even send you bunch of free shit for the trouble.

Shit happens and it's fucks like you; the kind that thinks get rich through legal action, that end up making the rest of us consumers pay out the nose.

Throw the cookie away and get on with your life.

:clap:

I could not have said it better myself.

[4a6c1]

Originally posted by Adredrin
......Here’s an interesting one, any tomato sauce, pizza sauce for example, contains 30 eggs or 2 maggots........

Oh my god. OH MY GOD.

I *was* eating tomato soup when i read that.....

[Kainen]

Legal help.. heh you need MENTAL help first.

[SpunGirl]

Kainen pwnz.

-K

[Xcalibur]

hoohohoohh


The bug is kinda PRINTED in the cookie and not just on it.

You see a mark of the bug a bit bellow and on the corner it is there but almost inside the cookie.

I don't think it's normal to find those kind of things still.

Nieninque: Oh my god! YOU'RE SPEAKING OF "WORSE" AS IN ME BY CONSIDERING THAT ME = ME internet! HOOHOOWOWOWOOWOW

Holy shit!



[Edited on 5-29-2005 by HarmNone]

[Asha]

You're so much like Tabor, X.
You should both get together.

You do actually sound like him.
Both trying so very hard to sound English but instead coming across as totally retarded.

:heart: Kainen.
How're you doin' sweetnips!

[Edited on 5-29-2005 by Drayal]

[Chelle]

Sheesh, guys the guy had a good question. I know it's X, but let's show at least a smidge of maturity, alrighty? At least, until he starts something first?

...

Anyways, X, I would write them a letter about it. They do need to know if bugs is in their product. I don't think suing will do much good unless it made you ill, and it resulted in doctors bills. The best that could come out of it is if they gave you your money back, and perhaps some other things too.

[Asha]

Maturity doesn't exist in threads created by X.
Except for the excellent editing skills of Harmnone.

[Shalla]

Sorry, but odds are, you will lose. I'm sure the company kraft has an army of lawyers who already came up with a defense way before thousands of their cookies were baked.

It would be ironic that if you do pursue this matter in court, you will just lose thousands of dollars in legal fees, unless the judge dismiss your claim.

She didn't eat the cookie, therefore your legal ground to win anything is a settlement for just another bag of cookies, and maybe a side order of kraft dinner. Quick rich scheme much?

[Asha]

Or she could take a bite out of the cookie.

I would.

[Syberus]

So I was correct? Woohoo taking business law a few years ago that I didn't pay attention in

[Soulpieced]

Enough of the damn speculation and post a pic of it X.

[Chelle]

I wana see a pic of the bug cookie too!

[Tsa`ah]

I really don't care if there is a bug or not. His intent was to get rich off of something trivial.

Shit happens, get over it.

If rich is your goal in life, work for it you lazy fuck.

[Nieninque]

Actually, Eat it X...lets hope it poisons you

[Miss X]

Ok, let's not take it too far! ;)

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Lord Dainslef
Spam! It's gotta have some kinda bugs in it right?

:spam2:

depends on how clean the human it is made from was

[Jorddyn]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
My gf was eating cookies when she found one that had an insect INSIDE it.

I told her to seal off that cookie and to show it to me.

It's really disgusting when you consider that 99% of the time you take handful of cookies and eat em without looking at em.

Anyone knows if I could sue the bastards (kraft) and win millions because of that cookie?

I'll respond two different ways.

1. How to get the most money out of this. Call the 800 number on the package. Explain your complaint in detail, explain that you still have the cookie, and that while you're not planning legal action, you would appreciate some form of compensation. They will request that you send them the cookie. Do it. They will not assist you any further if you don't.

They will then do one of two things. They will either offer you free coupons/credit/something along those lines, or they will forward you to their insurance company. If you want money, decline the coupons, etc. They'll most likely forward you to their insurance company then.

Their insurance company will contact you and take your statement. Again, request that you be compensated for your "trauma." They'll most likely offer you somewhere between 50 and 250 dollars to go away. Take it. You won't get more. If you refuse their offer, you're stuck with going to court. You won't win.

2. How to be a decent human. Call them, tell them about the problem. Don't be a slimebucket, throw the fucking cookie away, take your free coupons, and get over it.

Jorddyn

[Killer Kitten]

"Adredrin's post..."

I am so sorry I read that. Doesn't matter that it's true, doesn't matter that I might eat bugs all day every day. I didn't know about any of that stuff and I was a happy person.
I'm all traumatized now...!

[SpunGirl]

Jorddyn, I think you made an excellent post. What you're forgetting is that X's job which he looooves to brag about pays him like nine dollars an hour USD. So $250 (on the high end of your prediction) would be quite a windfall for everyone's favorite Frenchy.

And X, my dear. For someone who claims to dislike us filthy Americans, you're acting decidedly American in your threats of a ridiculous and frivilous lawsuit. Congratulations.

-K

[Xcalibur]

Eh, I'm not Straycat, I'm me, I don't dislike americans, in fact, I AM one.

OHOHOOHOHOH

I will check that out (and maybe take a pic, will check if I can)...

p.s. I adore America.

p.p.s. I make more than 9 USD per hour, thanks for caring, though.:tumble:

[StrayRogue]

I'd imagine you make probably 10 USD an hour. Something around minimum wage.

[xtc]

Canada now allows lawyers to work on a contingency basis. In other words you can hire a lawyer without having to pay upfront. In the event that you win the lawsuit or reach an out of court settlement the law firm would receive a percentage of the settlement, I think between 20-45% depending on when the case is settled. Of course the firm won't take the case if they don't think they can get a settlement or win. Also the courts may decide to throw the suit out, Canadian courts have shown they don't much tolerance for nuisance law suits.