View Full Version : Incident at work... Racism or not so much?
Sean of the Thread
07-08-2012, 08:14 AM
He's Dominican and thinks he's straight up gangster.
Had an argument with a dude that's had tension with myself and my team for the past year at the time clock. At the apex of the blowout I blasted him with "Fuck off you banana eating mother fucker!" as a supervisor pulled me away.
He literally eats bananas all the fucking time. We've said it since like last October.
Now it's being called a racist comment. The shit is not nor intended to be racist... If I called him a wetback or spic or some shit okay.
I'm being punished over him starting a fight with me and being told it's racially charged.
Sean of the Thread
07-08-2012, 08:18 AM
Oh my punishment is either a write up or a day off without pay they're going to think about it over the weekend and let me know. The fact that he's not being punished for starting this shit with a zero tolerance violence policy because of what I said is my major fucking pissed off point.
Buckwheet
07-08-2012, 09:38 AM
You and him would have been fired where I work. So I guess a day off or a write up is not something I would worry too much about.
Warriorbird
07-08-2012, 09:39 AM
After 6 marriages, I think Greg Allman decided it was him.
Don't get into angry confrontations at work is the lesson here.
EDIT:
Racism: Not so much.
Poor impulse control: Certainly.
Reliel
07-08-2012, 09:40 AM
I would say you're both stupid for fighting/arguing/etc in the work place and should both be shit canned but that's just me.
To answer the question, no. You're not racist. To answer the unasked question, yes. You are stupid for letting him get to you.
Kitsun
07-08-2012, 09:44 AM
Unless the dude tries to shiv you at work, you let everything slide right off. The place of employment is where you smile and get paid.
Delias
07-08-2012, 10:07 AM
Unless the dude tries to shiv you at work, you let everything slide right off. The place of employment is where you smile and get paid.
The alternative is to quietly agree to adjourn to a private place after work, where you can fight to the death in peace.
Gweneivia
07-08-2012, 10:48 AM
At the apex of the blowout I blasted him with "Fuck off you banana eating mother fucker!"
I'm not going to judge whether or not it's "racially charged" but it did make me lol. That was the best insult, in the heat of the moment, that you could come up with? If I'd been that guy I might have broken into giggles at the absurdity.
WRoss
07-08-2012, 10:49 AM
Move over! SotT is here!
http://i.imgur.com/2awCG.gif
Reliel
07-08-2012, 10:54 AM
I'm not going to judge whether or not it's "racially charged" but it did make me lol. That was the best insult, in the heat of the moment, that you could come up with? If I'd been that guy I might have broken into giggles at the absurdity.
I'm sure it was said with a lisp.
Aylien
07-08-2012, 11:03 AM
Unfortunately, while you may not have intended to have said something racist, "Fuck off, you banana eating motherfucker" can be considered a racially charged comment.
One of the justifications for slavery was that Africans were less than human and lived in the trees like monkeys. It became quite common for non-blacks to refer to people of African descent as monkeys or apes, especially as an epithet. Older African-Americans or people that were socially aware in the 1960s (which may not include people that work with you day-to-day but MAY include people in your HR department), are quite sensitive to this comparison. When my nephew was young, he used to climb on everything. I made the mistake of calling him a monkey in front of my dad. OH BOY, was that a bad idea.
To someone who MAY NOT KNOW (Like the HR department) that it is a common part of your everyday banter at work to call him a "Banana eating motherfucker" and that he literally eats a banana daily, calling someone who is Dominican that during an argument looks like you are obliquely calling him a monkey (because monkeys eat bananas).
There was recently an incident where a banana peel was thrown at a black hockey player. Some people felt that was racially motivated. The thrower said he didn't even realize the player was black, he was just trying to distract the player and threw what he had.
ETA: As a matter of practice, I would completely stop calling him a "Banana eating motherfucker" during day-to-day banter. It basically sets your company up for a racial harassment lawsuit, especially if supervisors heard this nickname and did nothing about it. Everyone may agree it was because he literally eats bananas everyday, but a jury may view it as racially charged.
Stretch
07-08-2012, 11:15 AM
I thought this was Black Sean posting, in which case my answer would have been that this was obviously not racially motivated.
Since it's a white guy involved, clearly it is racially motivated.
Androidpk
07-08-2012, 11:17 AM
He's Dominican and thinks he's straight up gangster
And you're white trash that thinks he's on Jerry Springer.
Delias
07-08-2012, 11:28 AM
I think I'm going to call my boss a banana eatin' motherfucker tomorrow.
Also- claim reverse racism. It's racist for them to decide that you can't talk about bananas because you are white.
Tgo01
07-08-2012, 12:07 PM
You may not have meant it to be racist but how could you possibly expect anyone to believe that you didn't mean for it to be racist? If all you meant was that he literally eats bananas all the time how is that even an insult you fling out in the middle of a heated argument? That would be like saying "Fuck off you tomato eating fucker!" Who would be yelling and cursing and actually say such a thing? That ranks right up there with "Stop being such a meanie head you doodoo face!"
You may not have meant it to be racist but how could you possibly expect anyone to believe that you didn't mean for it to be racist? If all you meant was that he literally eats bananas all the time how is that even an insult you fling out in the middle of a heated argument? That would be like saying "Fuck off you tomato eating fucker!" Who would be yelling and cursing and actually say such a thing? That ranks right up there with "Stop being such a meanie head you doodoo face!"
Hey take it easy you banana eating mother-fucker.
Reliel
07-08-2012, 12:20 PM
Hey take it easy you banana eating mother-fucker.
3698
(I am so so sorry if this offends you.)
jpatter123
07-08-2012, 12:25 PM
honestly I would have fired you for the comment racially charged or not. If the guy was out of line taking it to management would have been the way to handle it.. had it been violent or you felt you were in danger calling the police would have been the correct protocol. Offering to settle it at a neutral location outside or work could actually land you in handcuffs with an assault charge.
When I was a teenager about 20 years ago I had to apologize to referring to my black friend at work by "what's up dog?" At the time dog wasn't common enough to be considered a friend comment by everyone and some of the employees felt I was referring to a black guy as a dog and a lower life form than a white. As ridiculous as I really think it all is if someone is offended then that's that.
You may not have meant it to be racist but how could you possibly expect anyone to believe that you didn't mean for it to be racist? If all you meant was that he literally eats bananas all the time how is that even an insult you fling out in the middle of a heated argument? That would be like saying "Fuck off you tomato eating fucker!" Who would be yelling and cursing and actually say such a thing? That ranks right up there with "Stop being such a meanie head you doodoo face!"
I agree with this post.
Originally Posted by Stretch
I thought this was Black Sean posting, in which case my answer would have been that this was obviously not racially motivated.
Since it's a white guy involved, clearly it is racially motivated.
Fuck off you rice eating mother fucker! What? He eats rice!
Androidpk
07-08-2012, 12:49 PM
Your lips say banana eating motherfucker but your eyes say you're going to string him up like a pinata and beat him with a sock full of quarters.
Drakefang
07-08-2012, 01:09 PM
Take your medicine and stop getting into shit at work or away from it. You're an adult, start acting like one. Getting into shit at the time clock is just not something normal adults do on the job. Fucking around with your job, in this economy, is pretty damned irresponsible and selfish.
If I was you, I would write a sincere apology to your employers and your douche co-worker, because it will show you are serious about your job, racism and anger control. Matter of fact, you could ask if they sponsor any sort of anger management seminar or counseling. It might impress them if you were the one who suggested it.
The thing you are not going to convince them is that it wasn't referring to the Dominican as a monkey.
OldSkool
07-08-2012, 01:28 PM
If the altercation got physical, you should both be terminated. You're the last sort of person I'd want on my staff, regardless of the job.
If it was just verbal, no, what you said probably wasn't intended racially, but you're still an idiot for saying it without thinking. In any regard, you will never convince your superiors that what you said was not racially motivated. I'm skeptical myself. Man up, accept your reprimand with good humor, and be thankful you still have a job. You wouldn't, were I your supervisor.
TheEschaton
07-08-2012, 02:42 PM
Oh man, time to break out the SotT mad libs. Anyone? Anyone?
Nieninque
07-08-2012, 02:47 PM
Yes it was racist.
How can you not know that?
Yes it was racist.
How can you not know that?
Shut it you fish and chips eating mother fucker!
diethx
07-08-2012, 03:06 PM
Am I the only one who's completely surprised that Sean has held down a job for the past year?
The only thing unsurprising about this thread is his outburst.
Rallorick
07-08-2012, 03:21 PM
when keeping it real goes wrong...
Androidpk
07-08-2012, 03:23 PM
Am I the only one who's completely surprised that Sean has held down a job for the past year?
The only thing unsurprising about this thread is his outburst.
^
Suppressed Poet
07-08-2012, 03:24 PM
In so many words, you are fucked.
Bananas happen to be the main export and an important part of Dominican culture. You can try to spin a story all day long, but I don't think you will be able to convince anybody the comment was not racist.
Think of it this way...if you called a black person a chicken eating motherfucker or an Irish man a potato eating motherfucker, does that draw a clearer picture for you? Not to mention saying the words motherfucker at all in a work enviornment is just a bad idea, racist or not.
If I were you, I would be extreemly happy if they come back with either a write up or a day off without pay. Most importantly, please learn from the stupidity of your action in this incident.
SHAFT
07-08-2012, 04:18 PM
Always weigh the consequences of your words carefully my son
Archigeek
07-08-2012, 04:24 PM
You guys need to work in a warehouse. In most of them, typically, the baseline requirement is that your criminal record isn't too terrible. Calling someone a bananan eater might get you a day off, but they won't dump you for that. So long as you work hard and no one gets hurt, they'll keep you on.
Showal
07-08-2012, 04:55 PM
In so many words, you are fucked.
Bananas happen to be the main export and an important part of Dominican culture. You can try to spin a story all day long, but I don't think you will be able to convince anybody the comment was not racist.
Think of it this way...if you called a black person a chicken eating motherfucker or an Irish man a potato eating motherfucker, does that draw a clearer picture for you? Not to mention saying the words motherfucker at all in a work enviornment is just a bad idea, racist or not.
If I were you, I would be extreemly happy if they come back with either a write up or a day off without pay. Most importantly, please learn from the stupidity of your action in this incident.
Shut up you in game Steinbeck poetry quoting mother fucker!
Kuyuk
07-08-2012, 06:35 PM
Your lips say banana eating motherfucker but your eyes say you're going to string him up like a pinata and beat him with a sock full of quarters.
Those quarters got taken by the carnies.
Kuyuk
07-08-2012, 06:37 PM
Must work for a union if you dont get fired for that shit.
Unions are garbage, and keep garbage on payroll.
Delias
07-08-2012, 07:01 PM
Must work for a union if you dont get fired for that shit.
Unions are garbage, and keep garbage on payroll.
How do you feel about child labor?
jpatter123
07-08-2012, 07:09 PM
How do you feel about child labor?
what color/race children?
Delias
07-08-2012, 07:10 PM
what color/race children?
All of the banana eating races.
dszabo
07-08-2012, 08:16 PM
Unions follow the "chicken and the egg". Certain bitter, mean, and/or racist employers make unions necessary while other unions cause employers to become bitter, mean, and/or racist by fighting for the rights of shitty employees.
Oh, and power to the maple syrup drinking motherfuckers of Canada!
Delias
07-08-2012, 08:25 PM
Unions follow the "chicken and the egg". Certain bitter, mean, and/or racist employers make unions necessary while other unions cause employers to become bitter, mean, and/or racist by fighting for the rights of shitty employees.
Oh, and power to the maple syrup drinking motherfuckers of Canada!
Canada is the worst thing to happen to America since Mexico.
Parkbandit
07-08-2012, 08:29 PM
You may not have meant it to be racist but how could you possibly expect anyone to believe that you didn't mean for it to be racist? If all you meant was that he literally eats bananas all the time how is that even an insult you fling out in the middle of a heated argument? That would be like saying "Fuck off you tomato eating fucker!" Who would be yelling and cursing and actually say such a thing? That ranks right up there with "Stop being such a meanie head you doodoo face!"
I don't know.. I have a friend from college that we nicknamed "Cheese" because he used to eat cheese all the time. I could completely see myself saying "Fuck off you cheese eating mother fucker!"
Some Rogue
07-08-2012, 08:31 PM
I don't know.. I have a friend from college that we nicknamed "Cheese" because he used to eat cheese all the time. I could completely see myself saying "Fuck off you cheese eating mother fucker!"
Fuck off you Geritol eating mother fucker.
Tisket
07-08-2012, 09:04 PM
I wish I could eat bananas. They make me ill.
What? Bananas are on topic.
Androidpk
07-08-2012, 09:09 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2rhlnp4.gif
Reliel
07-08-2012, 09:09 PM
I wish I could eat bananas. They make me ill.
What? Bananas are on topic.
Personally bananas taste like nothing to me and I don't like them.
Rucca
07-08-2012, 09:25 PM
The bruises on a banana...forget about it. I will eat AROUND them.
Androidpk
07-08-2012, 09:34 PM
It's not like banana bruises are mold or anything it's just a oxidation reaction. Also, banana bread.
Reliel
07-08-2012, 09:37 PM
Also, banana bread.
We're going to be good friends. Good...good friends.
4a6c1
07-08-2012, 10:14 PM
You and him would have been fired where I work. So I guess a day off or a write up is not something I would worry too much about.
This. Same here and everywhere else in America where politically correct business happens.
Ignorant reactionary motherfuckers are only funny on Jerry Springer in a "lolol so people like that exist?" type of way. Trying this stupid Glenn Beck shit anywhere important will get your ass out on the street as quick as it would take to deactivate access. AS IT SHOULD BE.
Warriorbird
07-08-2012, 11:12 PM
I wish I could eat bananas. They make me ill.
What? Bananas are on topic.
That shit is bananas. B-A-N-A-N-A-S.
Some Rogue
07-08-2012, 11:23 PM
http://youtu.be/j5C6X9vOEkU
leifastagsweed
07-08-2012, 11:32 PM
Mmmmm! I like bananas.
Delias
07-08-2012, 11:39 PM
The bruises on a banana...forget about it. I will eat AROUND them.
I'll bruise you with my banana.
Delias
07-08-2012, 11:40 PM
Mmmmm! I like bananas.
I'll bet you do.
Rucca
07-09-2012, 12:12 AM
I'll bruise you with my banana.
Bananas are soft, and squishy. The most you'd do with your banana is...make a mess.
Fallen
07-09-2012, 12:12 AM
I would definitely steal a banana or two from the monkeys at work if could. I love bananas.
Delias
07-09-2012, 12:46 AM
Bananas are soft, and squishy. The most you'd do with your banana is...make a mess.
Yeah, that's probably true. Still, you should at least test the size and firmness of the produce before you dismiss it so readily. At least smack it on your cheeks or something. =]
Mighty Nikkisaurus
07-09-2012, 01:25 AM
I signed in just to point out that on my zombie survival sheet I filled out like 2 years ago for the PC, I put Tisket as my zombie-fighting partner and I equipped her with a banana to kill the undead brain-hungry masses. I consider banana to be a term of endearment, dammit.
PS plus also I'll reiterate the early voices of reason like WB. When you're working a steady and good job a person better be in your face with a broken bottle or verbally abusing you to the point of substance abuse to deal before you resort to engaging them in the way you did, SotT. You're a dumbface for getting sucked into this situation in the first place.
Androidpk
07-09-2012, 01:29 AM
I would definitely steal a banana or two from the monkeys at work if could. I love bananas.
And this is how the zombie apocalypse begins.
Tenlaar
07-09-2012, 01:36 AM
You guys need to work in a warehouse.
No kidding. Guys I've worked with have staged fake screaming matches specifically to get the day off. I think some people may have forgotten that the world outside of office buildings is not filled with overly sensitive corporate douchers.
Mighty Nikkisaurus
07-09-2012, 01:44 AM
No kidding. Guys I've worked with have staged fake screaming matches specifically to get the day off. I think some people may have forgotten that the world outside of office buildings is not filled with overly sensitive corporate douchers.
Ever worked in a kitchen? My introduction to the working world included bending a guy over, when he was caught off guard, the sink, spraying him in his junk area with the dish washing hose and pretending to fuck him up the ass with a steel. I so thoroughly emasculated him he wouldn't look me in the eyes for the rest of my time working there (about a year and a half) but that was my response after 2 months of constant awful harassment. Honestly: I should have done it earlier, he was a fucker and deserved it.
I'm not soft by any means nor do I regret at all what I did but I definitely appreciated when I worked in environments where I didn't have to be on guard like that. I don't fault others for not wanting to be in that situation, by either removing themselves from said situation or educating themselves into situations where that isn't acceptable.
Mighty Nikkisaurus
07-09-2012, 01:45 AM
And this is how the zombie apocalypse begins.
It wouldn't, his wife is badass enough that he'd be infected and she'd kiss him goodbye then blast his face off.
Fallen goes hard or goes home. He's basically the Dos Equis man.
TheEschaton
07-09-2012, 02:08 AM
But then the kiss would do her in. Gotta let go of all that sentimentality in a zombie apocalypse.
P.S. I'd double tap all of you in case of zombie apocalypse. Because I care.
Parkbandit
07-09-2012, 07:25 AM
This. Same here and everywhere else in America where politically correct business happens.
Ignorant reactionary motherfuckers are only funny on Jerry Springer in a "lolol so people like that exist?" type of way. Trying this stupid Glenn Beck shit anywhere important will get your ass out on the street as quick as it would take to deactivate access. AS IT SHOULD BE.
Lulwut? Glenn Beck calls brown Hispanic people "banana eaters"?
You're reaching too hard here.
AnticorRifling
07-09-2012, 08:55 AM
This. Same here and everywhere else in America where politically correct business happens.
Ignorant reactionary motherfuckers are only funny on Jerry Springer in a "lolol so people like that exist?" type of way. Trying this stupid Glenn Beck shit anywhere important will get your ass out on the street as quick as it would take to deactivate access. AS IT SHOULD BE.
Anywhere important? Nice, Rojo, nice.
I've written up people for fights worse than this in places that "required access". I took the time to figure out what's going on and adjusted punishment as well as some follow up discussion to avoid future incidents. Rojo is obviously not a tolerant person.
AnticorRifling
07-09-2012, 08:55 AM
Also Nikki was in a union in that kitchen based on Kuyuk's earlier statement. Only way you can ever do something off color is by being in a union.
Androidpk
07-09-2012, 10:24 AM
It wouldn't, his wife is badass enough that he'd be infected and she'd kiss him goodbye then blast his face off.
Fallen goes hard or goes home. He's basically the Dos Equis man.
His wife works in the same lab? And she carries while at work? Unlikely.
Tenlaar
07-09-2012, 11:29 AM
Ever worked in a kitchen?
Yes, I have. And they can be terrible. But we're not talking about routine and prolonged harassment here, from my reading, just a couple of guys who don't like each other getting heated. Happens all the time. If it didn't come to blows, and it's not a routine thing that people are just tired of dealing with, I don't see any reason for the man to lose his job. It's a bit surprising the number of people here who do.
Also, my vote is not racist. Words themselves are not racist, only the intent behind them.
Warriorbird
07-09-2012, 11:35 AM
His wife works in the same lab? And she carries while at work? Unlikely.
Don't underestimate his wife!
http://film-book.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/milla-jovovich-two-shotguns-resident-evil-afterlife.jpg
AnticorRifling
07-09-2012, 11:39 AM
Yes, I have. And they can be terrible. But we're not talking about routine and prolonged harassment here, from my reading, just a couple of guys who don't like each other getting heated. Happens all the time. If it didn't come to blows, and it's not a routine thing that people are just tired of dealing with, I don't see any reason for the man to lose his job. It's a bit surprising the number of people here who do.
Also, my vote is not racist. Words themselves are not racist, only the intent behind them.
You must be new to SotT stories.
Liagala
07-09-2012, 11:53 AM
This story isn't quite up to Sean's usual level of entertainment. Where are the angry off-duty military men to get into a fight with?
Some Rogue
07-09-2012, 11:59 AM
This story isn't quite up to Sean's usual level of entertainment. Where are the angry off-duty military men to get into a fight with?
I think they were fighting off the carnies with rolls of quarters.
Androidpk
07-09-2012, 12:02 PM
I'd like to know how the altercation started. Did the Domincan dude try to steal Sean's flip flops?
Some Rogue
07-09-2012, 12:08 PM
Banana eaters don't wear shoes.
Delias
07-09-2012, 12:19 PM
Banana eaters don't wear shoes.
I heard Glenn Beck say that, so I'm sure it's true.
Nieninque
07-09-2012, 03:04 PM
Also, my vote is not racist. Words themselves are not racist, only the intent behind them.
If that were the case, nothing would ever be deemed racist, because the offending party would simply claim that there was no racist intent.
Cant speak for US law, but the test in UK law is something along the lines of the impact upon the victim and the perception of the average person as to whether something could be considered racist etc.
Nieninque
07-09-2012, 03:23 PM
Thread: Incident at work... Racism or not so much? (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?73463-Incident-at-work-Racism-or-not-so-much&p=1433373#post1433373)
Your mom is racist.
Pretty much.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
07-10-2012, 09:15 AM
Jesus Christ Sean, what kind of job do you work at where a physical altercation doesn't merit immediate termination of both parties involved?
AnticorRifling
07-10-2012, 09:31 AM
Jesus Christ Sean, what kind of job do you work at where a physical altercation doesn't merit immediate termination of both parties involved?
Any non office job?
Construction, warehousing, back kitchen off the top of my head.
Androidpk
07-10-2012, 09:35 AM
Any non office job?
Construction, warehousing, back kitchen off the top of my head.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2im9c3p.jpg
AnticorRifling
07-10-2012, 09:44 AM
Excellent call hadn't thought about that one.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
07-10-2012, 09:50 AM
Any non office job?
Construction, warehousing, back kitchen off the top of my head.
Really? If I was an owner of any of those, I'd like to think I'd terminate for fighting there as well... Pretty much anywhere except say... bouncer, UFC ring judge, boxer, cage fighter, shit like that.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
07-10-2012, 09:54 AM
Anything less would be uncivilized.
3716
AnticorRifling
07-10-2012, 10:14 AM
Really? If I was an owner of any of those, I'd like to think I'd terminate for fighting there as well... Pretty much anywhere except say... bouncer, UFC ring judge, boxer, cage fighter, shit like that.
Eh it's hot, physical, grueling work and the conditions coupled with production and performance demands from supervisors that are breathing down your neck can quickly make tempers flare. I'm more inclined to discuss the why's and see what's going on before an instant term. Now second offense you're bounced but first one I'd want some discussion.
Androidpk
07-10-2012, 10:20 AM
I'm more inclined to discuss the why's and see what's going on before an instant term.
Would mad libs be involved?
AnticorRifling
07-10-2012, 10:25 AM
That kind of goes without saying.
Sean of the Thread
07-10-2012, 09:15 PM
Went in today they pulled me in... Three days off without pay and ripped me for racism. He's not being punished for the aggressiveness or violence. I go back to work Friday.
Delias
07-10-2012, 09:22 PM
Went in today they pulled me in... Three days off without pay and ripped me for racism. He's not being punished for the aggressiveness or violence. I go back to work Friday.
You should use the time to look for another job... probably one with a lot of white people working there.
Warriorbird
07-10-2012, 09:25 PM
You should use the time to look for another job... probably one with a lot of white people working there.
To Sean's credit - his poor impulse control knows no bounds of ethnicity or disability.
Delias
07-10-2012, 09:39 PM
To Sean's credit - his poor impulse control knows no bounds of ethnicity or disability.
I, and my co-workers, are now laughing at Sean. Well played, sir.
Archigeek
07-10-2012, 09:54 PM
Jesus Christ Sean, what kind of job do you work at where a physical altercation doesn't merit immediate termination of both parties involved?
Wasn't it just words, no physical stuff?
Reminds me of a time I had to suspend a guy. We were working late, was about midnight and one guy walks into his space to get something out of the printer and bends down in front of him. Other guy says in a gruff voice, "if we were in prison your ass would be mine!" Other guy didn't think it was funny. I thought it was just late night stress myself, but we had to give the guy a day without pay. Some folks above me wanted to fire him, which to me was crazy and an over reaction, so I made the case for less punishment. A few words from an otherwise stellar employee do not merit termination. Both of the employees were good, it was just the one trying to make a joke on a night when we'd all been at the office for 15 or more hours already.
Course, he didn't call him a banana eater. That woulda been bad.
Tgo01
07-10-2012, 09:59 PM
Reminds me of a time I had to suspend a guy. We were working late, was about midnight and one guy walks into his space to get something out of the printer and bends down in front of him. Other guy says in a gruff voice, "if we were in prison your ass would be mine!" Other guy didn't think it was funny. I thought it was just late night stress myself, but we had to give the guy a day without pay. Some folks above me wanted to fire him, which to me was crazy and an over reaction, so I made the case for less punishment. A few words from an otherwise stellar employee do not merit termination. Both of the employees were good, it was just the one trying to make a joke on a night when we'd all been at the office for 15 or more hours already.
That's a tough one for me. Imagine for a second he had said that to a woman, would that have been an acceptable "joke"? Can men not be subjected to sexual harassment from other men?
I'm kind of disappointed now with every place I've worked, seems like I'm missing out on so much juicy drama :(
Atlanteax
07-11-2012, 10:34 AM
Morale of the story is that people nowadays are too prone to get their panties twisted up into a note over an exchange of heated words.
Warriorbird
07-11-2012, 10:38 AM
Morale of the story is that people nowadays are too prone to get their panties twisted up into a note over an exchange of heated words.
Wow.
AnticorRifling
07-11-2012, 10:38 AM
Wow.
You notice he used note instead of knot too huh?
Tisket
07-11-2012, 11:11 AM
Misuse of the word "morale" is more amusing.
Tisket
07-11-2012, 11:16 AM
Moral of the story: proofread your fucking posts.
Atlanteax
07-11-2012, 11:28 AM
Heh, gotta love Internet being the Internet.
AnticorRifling
07-11-2012, 11:35 AM
The internet didn't pick the wrong words for you. Take ownership and quit being the victim emo hippy.
Sean of the Thread
07-11-2012, 12:29 PM
I'm pissed about several things however having to sign a piece of paper to keep my job saying I'm a racist is at this moment pissing me off the most. If I could find a shirt to wear Friday that says racist I would.
AnticorRifling
07-11-2012, 12:30 PM
LOL wut?
Also what started this little throw down and did your banana friend get in any trouble?
Tgo01
07-11-2012, 12:34 PM
You had to sign a piece of paper stating you are a racist? Where the heck do you work?
Tenlaar
07-11-2012, 12:39 PM
I assume they are requiring him to sign a letter of apology. Having to sign a letter of apology is admitting that he has something to apologize for. I've lost a job for refusing to sign a letter of apology myself, but not about racism. About a stupid cunt of a customer who had no idea how to do my job thinking that she did and having to be told otherwise.
Tgo01
07-11-2012, 12:44 PM
Surely if he was required to write an apology the most it would say was he was apologizing for saying something racist, not because he is a racist.
Tenlaar
07-11-2012, 01:00 PM
Put yourself in the position. If you maintain you did not do something racist, and your employer says sign this apology for doing something racist or get fired, they are forcing you to choose between admitting to racism or losing your job.
Surely you can follow such simple logic. Personally, I would lose my job.
Tgo01
07-11-2012, 01:04 PM
Surely you can follow such simple logic as saying something racist doesn't automatically make you a racist.
Warriorbird
07-11-2012, 01:07 PM
I'm pissed about several things however having to sign a piece of paper to keep my job saying I'm a racist is at this moment pissing me off the most. If I could find a shirt to wear Friday that says racist I would.
I'd sign "I said a racist thing." I don't think I'd sign "I'm a racist." Jobs are nice though.
Gompers
07-11-2012, 01:08 PM
If I could find a shirt to wear Friday that says racist I would.
http://recklessts.com/images2/loveblackpeoplemain.jpg
$15 plus shipping!
Androidpk
07-11-2012, 01:08 PM
I don't believe they are having him sign it to prove he is racist, more likely to acknowledge that what he did was wrong.
Tenlaar
07-11-2012, 01:09 PM
Surely you can follow such simple logic as saying something racist doesn't automatically make you a racist.
Surely you can follow such simple logic as people label others and make assumptions on very little actual evidence. If it goes around your workplace that you had to sign a letter of apology for making a racist comment, just what the fuck assumption do you think people are going to make about you?
Tisket
07-11-2012, 01:09 PM
It seems to me that a company concerned with legalities and sensitive to the possibility of future lawsuits from former (and current) employees would take the time to word such a letter in a way that satisfies those concerns.
It won't say, "sorry for being a racist prick" even if that would be an accurate statement.
Androidpk
07-11-2012, 01:10 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2dh9ndj.jpg
Tgo01
07-11-2012, 01:16 PM
Surely you can follow such simple logic as people label others and make assumptions on very little actual evidence. If it goes around your workplace that you had to sign a letter of apology for making a racist comment, just what the fuck assumption do you think people are going to make about you?
Of course people are going to assume he is a racist, however does the letter actually say he is admitting to being a racist as he said?
Hulkein
07-11-2012, 04:02 PM
I wish I could eat bananas without getting an almost immediate acid reflux feeling.
Reliel
07-11-2012, 04:09 PM
I wish I could eat bananas without getting an almost immediate acid reflux feeling.
You just gotta remember to cup the balls.
Liagala
07-11-2012, 04:14 PM
You just gotta remember to cup the balls.
I'm glad we have such an experienced person around to explain these things to us.
Reliel
07-11-2012, 04:15 PM
I'm glad we have such an experienced person around to explain these things to us.
You wouldn't turn me down.
If you could afford it. You banana eating mother fucker.
Liagala
07-11-2012, 04:20 PM
I wouldn't turn you down as what, a banana-eating instructor? I love bananas. I eat one several times a week. I'm not entirely sure I need lessons, but learning new stuff is always fun.
Reliel
07-11-2012, 04:24 PM
I wouldn't turn you down as what, a banana-eating instructor? I love bananas. I eat one several times a week. I'm not entirely sure I need lessons, but learning new stuff is always fun.
You are so confusing.
Androidpk
07-11-2012, 04:42 PM
I wouldn't turn you down as what, a banana-eating instructor? I love bananas. I eat one several times a week. I'm not entirely sure I need lessons, but learning new stuff is always fun.
Innuendos are fun!
Liagala
07-11-2012, 04:44 PM
Innuendos are fun!
What innuendo? I'm talking about fruit. I don't know where your dirty mind is going!
TheEschaton
07-11-2012, 04:49 PM
All I hear is that Lia gobbles bananas several times a week.
Androidpk
07-11-2012, 04:51 PM
What innuendo? I'm talking about fruit. I don't know where your dirty mind is going!
http://i50.tinypic.com/59ynm1.gif
Some Rogue
07-11-2012, 05:22 PM
All I hear is that Lia gobbles bananas several times a week.
Yeah, but she likes them fresh and firm. The brown ones are no good.
Androidpk
07-11-2012, 05:24 PM
These innuendos keep getting better and better.
4a6c1
07-11-2012, 06:51 PM
Banana fallacy! Conservatives don't give blowjobs!
Tgo01
07-11-2012, 06:59 PM
Female Democrats are lesbians, they can't stop talking about Bush.
Thank you! I'll be here all week.
Bobmuhthol
07-11-2012, 07:00 PM
Banana fallacy! Conservatives don't give blowjobs!
Requires further testing. I think I associate with exactly 2 women who identify as conservative. One blows eeeeeverybody; the other was proud to admit that she told her boyfriend that he could find another girl to blow him if he wanted to (and she was serious).
Tgo01
07-11-2012, 07:02 PM
Requires further testing. I think I associate with exactly 2 women who identify as conservative. One blows eeeeeverybody; the other was proud to admit that she told her boyfriend that he could find another girl to blow him if he wanted to (and she was serious).
Did you hook the latter friend's boyfriend up with the former friend?
Bobmuhthol
07-11-2012, 07:08 PM
They're in different states and I should amend eeeeeverybody to people she finds attractive, and he is a scrawny Japanese nerd so it wouldn't be a good match.
Delias
07-11-2012, 07:09 PM
Did you hook the latter friend's boyfriend up with the former friend?
I think I would like to meet the first female in the example.
4a6c1
07-11-2012, 07:35 PM
Requires further testing. I think I associate with exactly 2 women who identify as conservative. One blows eeeeeverybody; the other was proud to admit that she told her boyfriend that he could find another girl to blow him if he wanted to (and she was serious).
All the libs I know* are sluts of the sluttiest kind and think that everyone should be sluts and have birth control to carry on the sluttyness, married or not. Also have I mentioned I live and work in corporate America. Oh hi.
*Rice University does not count they are not real people they are granola hippies.
4a6c1
07-11-2012, 07:38 PM
Anyhoo, abstinence, legislation against sodomy and weird laws about women not riding a dudes cocks were certainly not created by progressives. Banana fallacy stands on circumstance!
Androidpk
07-11-2012, 07:57 PM
I've never bothered to find out the political ideology of anyone I've ever gone out with before. Makes me wonder... I bet it's safe to assume the girl from China was a communist, right??
TheEschaton
07-14-2012, 03:28 PM
Black people haaaaaaaaaaaate Mexicans. and vice versa.
I feel like it has more to do with the gang tensions in the ghettos both these communities occupy. After all, us Indians walked into this country and were like "AWMERGERD WE STEALIN UR JERBS!" and they don't hate us.
Some Rogue
07-14-2012, 04:33 PM
Black people haaaaaaaaaaaate Mexicans. and vice versa.
I feel like it has more to do with the gang tensions in the ghettos both these communities occupy. After all, us Indians walked into this country and were like "AWMERGERD WE STEALIN UR JERBS!" and they don't hate us.
Because everyone loves a good slurpee.
Tgo01
07-14-2012, 04:34 PM
It makes me wonder if it has to do with how they became citizens (One being brought here as slaves and the other walking across the border and saying, "Haha! Fuck your laws! I'm here!")
Wait what?
Reliel
07-14-2012, 04:42 PM
Take every bit of racism from a Mexican/Hispanic with a grain of salt.
Seriously, the only race they hate more is Mexican/Hispanics. Especially the older generation. They fucking loathe the current generation.
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