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raddy
05-03-2012, 12:58 AM
It has been a while since we've had an official update on how Monks have been coming along. The team has been putting in a great amount of effort into the design, development, and QC necessary for the implementation of the new profession. It has been a long time coming, but I am proud to announce that we are ready to proceed with the player phase of Monk beta testing.

This Friday, May 4th, we will be opening up the test instance to our beta testers. The list of initial eligible participants will include SimuCon 2010 attendees, community leaders, and members of the Mentor Society. You must have an active account in order to participate.

We'll be monitoring the test instance and this forum for feedback throughout the testing period. We'll also be scheduling time with development GMs for more focused testing and live interactions.

-M.

This message was originally posted in Monks, Developer's Corner - Monks. To discuss the above, follow the link below.

http://forums.play.net/forums/19/239/2665/view/219

Makkah
05-03-2012, 12:59 AM
Just saw that. Score.

Gsgeek
05-03-2012, 01:21 AM
Hell just froze over.

Who or what is a community leader in gemstone?

Name in blue on the boards?

Gelston
05-03-2012, 01:22 AM
Yeah, names in blue.

droit
05-03-2012, 01:23 AM
Well goddamn. I'll let you fellows know how they are. What blows is that go2 doesn't work in the test instance.

Some Rogue
05-03-2012, 02:32 AM
Perhaps the Mayans were right about this year....

Kitsun
05-03-2012, 02:53 AM
Winter is coming.

Gelston
05-03-2012, 02:55 AM
Winter is coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd_kh3V1aTM&feature=related

TheEschaton
05-03-2012, 04:07 AM
Perhaps the Mayans were right about this year....

Release date December 22, 2012?

Seriously, though, I'm kinda scared.

Kuyuk
05-03-2012, 06:27 AM
Simucon 2010 attendees? lol? not even 2011?

Gelston
05-03-2012, 07:40 AM
Simucon 2010 attendees? lol? not even 2011?

Well, 2010 attendee were told they'd get to take part in the Monk beta, 2011 wasn't.

Fallen
05-03-2012, 08:34 AM
GG Finros and Co.

Someone post some screen shots.

caelric
05-03-2012, 08:46 AM
Simucon 2010 attendees? lol? not even 2011?

Yeah, because they were saying prior to and at Simucon 2010 that monks would go beta in 2010, so registered folks could get into the beta. Some (fools) even registered for Simucon 2010 just to get into the monk beta with no intention of attending the con.

GS4_HappyTimez
05-03-2012, 12:32 PM
I told you all a long time ago this was coming this year.

I was told I was delusional.

Enjoy the beta, all. I know I will.

Some Rogue
05-03-2012, 01:10 PM
I told you all a long time ago this was coming this year.

I was told I was delusional.

Enjoy the beta, all. I know I will.

You also started saying it was coming back in 2008. I guess if you keep saying it, you'll eventually be correct, Nostradamus.


From a very, very reliable source, monks will be released within 45 days.

Someone's going to have a LOT of egg to clean off their face in December...

The release of monks (still much closer than you all think) will flood GS with new and returning players. GS is very much alive and well.

Tgo01
05-03-2012, 01:25 PM
Which GM is GS4_HappyTimez?

I still think it's funny that entire state of the art graphical games have been developed and released in the time it took Simutronics to get monks into beta.

droit
05-03-2012, 01:26 PM
GM Finros:

>Wow! Can't wait to test things out. Any chance you'll allow characters on the test instance to CONVERT to monks, so that a wider level range can be explored?

We do not plan on doing character conversions or other processes which bypass normal mechanics (which would be contrary to our goals in this testing), but we certainly want to see a wide range of levels explored. I (and others) will regularly hand out gobs of experience to the testers to allow fast leveling, and we'll see what happens from there.

>And does this also mean we'll be testing the new unarmed combat system?

Yes.

Androidpk
05-03-2012, 01:42 PM
In other words expect beta to last 4 years to allow for testing ;)

Archigeek
05-03-2012, 02:49 PM
For sale: 10x hcp robes. 150m.

Menos
05-03-2012, 04:00 PM
I knew I should have grabbed those damn robes when they were cheap.

JustDan
05-03-2012, 04:07 PM
Generally speaking, what's the turnaround time for previous releases (say, paladins?) once they got into player beta testing? 90 days? 6 months?

Androidpk
05-03-2012, 04:09 PM
I don't think there is a general turnaround time in regards to this. It's done when it's done.

Showal
05-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Generally speaking, what's the turnaround time for previous releases (say, paladins?) once they got into player beta testing? 90 days? 6 months?

Ask GS4_HappyTimez. He has insider information and it's proven to be very reliable.

GS4_HappyTimez
05-03-2012, 04:20 PM
Well the monks have actually been in closed beta for a while now. So this open period won't last long at all. More of a stress test than anything else. 15-20 days tops.

Tgo01
05-03-2012, 04:21 PM
Well the monks have actually been in closed beta for a while now. So this open period won't last long at all. More of a stress test than anything else. 15-20 days tops.

Stress test? What the fuck are you talking about?

Androidpk
05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
Stress test? What the fuck are you talking about?

You know, to make sure the GS server can handle the increased load of awesome.

Menos
05-03-2012, 04:29 PM
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29400000/you-re-awesome-tamar20-29422336-359-450.jpg

Awesome

Showal
05-03-2012, 04:31 PM
Well the monks have actually been in closed beta for a while now. So this open period won't last long at all. More of a stress test than anything else. 15-20 days tops.


Played just around 20 years. I'm about sick of touting this shit. I'm up for 200 bucks donation IF they stop teasing us with beta monks in the next 2 months.

Put up or shut up Simutronics. The "lesser" GMs are so fucking sick of this shit.

Sometimes you don't agree with what you've previously said.

GS4_HappyTimez
05-03-2012, 05:03 PM
What about that is a contradiction? You make zero sense. (researching your previous posts, you NEVER make any sense; so nevermind)

Showal
05-03-2012, 05:16 PM
What about that is a contradiction? You make zero sense. (researching your previous posts, you NEVER make any sense; so nevermind)

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Showal
05-03-2012, 05:19 PM
Even though this thread has been completely derailed by off-topic crap...

My monk will be the ultimate fighter with mixed martial arts stances, but he'll also be borderline psionist in his mental abilities. Can't wait to use Telekinesis from the MnM... I've seen clips, think Ithzir seer abilities + old school Wizard Disarm. Very, very cool stuff.

I guess my monk will be more Jedi than anything.

GS4_HappyTimez
05-03-2012, 05:22 PM
How cliche. Get a freaking imagination.

droit
05-03-2012, 05:24 PM
Even though this thread has been completely derailed by off-topic crap...

My monk will be the ultimate fighter with mixed martial arts stances, but he'll also be borderline psionist in his mental abilities. Can't wait to use Telekinesis from the MnM... I've seen clips, think Ithzir seer abilities + old school Wizard Disarm. Very, very cool stuff.

I guess my monk will be more Jedi than anything.

Assuming monks are limited to 1x lore, you're gonna have to make some tough choices regarding which spells you want to buff. All three mental lores are pretty well represented in the minor mental list. A lot of the coolest spells use different lores.

Showal
05-03-2012, 05:24 PM
Even though this thread has been completely derailed by off-topic crap...

My monk will be the ultimate fighter with mixed martial arts stances, but he'll also be borderline psionist in his mental abilities. Can't wait to use Telekinesis from the MnM... I've seen clips, think Ithzir seer abilities + old school Wizard Disarm. Very, very cool stuff.

I guess my monk will be more Jedi than anything.


How cliche. Get a freaking imagination.


Even though this thread has been completely derailed by off-topic crap...

My monk will be the ultimate fighter with mixed martial arts stances, but he'll also be borderline psionist in his mental abilities. Can't wait to use Telekinesis from the MnM... I've seen clips, think Ithzir seer abilities + old school Wizard Disarm. Very, very cool stuff.

I guess my monk will be more Jedi than anything.

http://us10.memecdn.com/Advanced-Sarcasm_c_118631.jpg

TheEschaton
05-03-2012, 05:26 PM
MIND BLOWN.

Showal
05-03-2012, 05:32 PM
MIND BLOWN.

2/4/2009 - Never Forget.

Showal
05-03-2012, 05:34 PM
http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gifPlayer beta testing (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?p=1410905#post1410905)05-03-2012 04:32 PMYou know that wasn't sarcasm, you troglodyte.

And someone didn't even notice their own name in the quote. :(

Some times my humor is wasted here and I go unappreciated.

GS4_HappyTimez
05-03-2012, 05:42 PM
My view on my monk has changed in 3 years, big surprise. Cliche.

Showal
05-03-2012, 05:46 PM
My view on my monk has changed in 3 years, big surprise. Cliche.

GS4_HappyTimez Monk 2012: Evolution. You're going to have A LOT of egg on your face when you make your cliche jedi.

Tgo01
05-03-2012, 05:51 PM
I hear this is the place for all of our cliche monk rantings?

Showal
05-03-2012, 06:09 PM
I had a surgeon remove every vein from my penis in preparation of happytimez monk. This way blood can only flow in and my dick will get harder and harder!!!

GS4_HappyTimez
05-03-2012, 06:18 PM
I had a surgeon remove every vein from my penis in preparation of happytimez monk. This way blood can only flow in and my dick will get harder and harder!!!

Apparently. Since you spent all afternoon digging through and analyzing my previous posts.

Tgo01
05-03-2012, 06:24 PM
Apparently. Since you spent all afternoon digging through and analyzing my previous posts.

Yeah Showal you had 100 posts to dig through, that must have taken you hours.

AbnInfamy
05-03-2012, 06:25 PM
My monk is going to roleplay walking on rice paper, randomly stealing pebbles from people's hands, and auto-erotic asphyxiation.

diethx
05-03-2012, 06:25 PM
Yeah Showal you had 100 posts to dig through, that must have taken you hours.

FU. I had a similar, yet far more witty comment to say, but I got errorereed

Tgo01
05-03-2012, 06:27 PM
FU. I had a similar, yet far more witty comment to say, but I got errorereed

HA! Post your comment and we shall see who is wittier...er?

diethx
05-03-2012, 06:28 PM
Let's just say it involved a backhanded compliment to Backlash and potatoes.

But it's too late now. Too late. sigh

Gizmo
05-03-2012, 06:39 PM
My monk is going to roleplay walking on rice paper, randomly stealing pebbles from people's hands, and auto-erotic asphyxiation.

Poor David :(

Clearly the fucktard that left me neg rep, didn't understand the joke on this one.

Poor fucktard socially inept pal! You should google about DAVID Carradine.

Androidpk
05-03-2012, 06:42 PM
My monk has already broken power levels of over 9000 xp.

DaCapn
05-03-2012, 08:07 PM
GG Finros and Co.

Someone post some screen shots.

How long has Finros been on it?

Makkah
05-03-2012, 08:12 PM
A year, maybe?

Maybe this means we can finally get spreadsheets going

Luftstreitkräfte
05-03-2012, 09:46 PM
I have a few questions about Monks. I realize we may not have the answers yet, but perhaps some "insiders" can chime in as the information comes trickling in:

1. What classes will be able to convert to Monk?

2. What are the primary stats for monks?

3. How will flaring weapons (like a flaring cestus, for example) tie in to UAC?

4. What is the benefit of robes over leathers or other classes of armors?

5. Do monks strike from hiding?

6. Do monks have redux?

7. What spells can monks cast?

Roblar
05-03-2012, 09:54 PM
This may kick you off..

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Monk

Renian
05-03-2012, 10:37 PM
6. Do monks have redux?


Redux becomes impossible if you 2x spell research.

Monks, being squares, can only 1x it.

Gelston
05-03-2012, 11:55 PM
PS..
You ask, "What sort of NDA is there with this, can we show logs and stuff to folks?"

Finros says, "There aren't any NDA-like restrictions."

So it should be cool to post logs and stuff here.

Androidpk
05-04-2012, 12:10 AM
Fraps + commentary

TheEschaton
05-04-2012, 12:15 AM
lol, fraps of Gemstone.

Lulfas
05-04-2012, 12:15 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6iXMaqLZ5Ds/TVTayKO700I/AAAAAAAACdw/l7vMS3nuU7A/s1600/Hell_Frozen_Over.jpg

Androidpk
05-04-2012, 12:19 AM
lol, fraps of Gemstone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k7gscKTVuc

Gelston
05-04-2012, 12:35 AM
I want his custom Front End...

Tgo01
05-04-2012, 12:49 AM
I want his custom Front End...

No kidding.

Who is he anyways? Looks like one of his characters is named Slark.

Androidpk
05-04-2012, 12:54 AM
Slark and Kifka.

SHAFT
05-04-2012, 01:31 AM
Blizzard and Simu had a competition apparently to see who would complete monks first. Simu has 8 days to win

Ryvicke
05-04-2012, 01:44 AM
No kidding.

Who is he anyways? Looks like one of his characters is named Slark.

I think there's a few threads around about it--it's Celephais way back in the day when he gave a shit about GS.

Menos
05-04-2012, 09:05 PM
>

SEND[Solomon] Congrats, you're the first in ;) just FYI

First monk, baby.

Gizmo
05-04-2012, 09:22 PM
>

SEND[Solomon] Congrats, you're the first in ;) just FYI

First monk, baby.

He didn't ask you for money?

DaCapn
05-05-2012, 04:00 AM
* Menos, celibate of Vaalor Abbey is out patroling the lands.

Gelston
05-05-2012, 05:55 AM
Trained up my rogue for brawling and took him to Nelemar...

!HR>grapp sir head
You leap from hiding to strike!
You attempt to grapple a siren!
You have excellent positioning against a siren.
UAF: 617 vs UDF: 417 = 1.479 * MM: 81 + d100: 95 = 214
... and hit for 69 points of damage!
Awesome grapple pulls head from body!
The siren gives a plaintive wail before she slumps to her side and dies.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around a siren.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

HR>punch rad right eye
You leap from hiding to strike!
You attempt to punch a triton radical!
You have excellent positioning against a triton radical.
UAF: 555 vs UDF: 358 = 1.550 * MM: 88 + d100: 73 = 209
... and hit for 72 points of damage!
Powerful descending side-hand strike drives both eyes deep into brain!
The triton radical collapses, gurgling once with a wrathful look on her face before expiring.
The dully illuminated mantle protecting a triton radical begins to falter, then completely fades away.
A white glow rushes away from a triton radical.
The dull golden nimbus fades from around a triton radical.
The brilliant aura fades away from a triton radical.
The very powerful look leaves a triton radical.
The white light leaves a triton radical.
The warm glow fades from around a triton radical.
A triton radical seems slightly different.
The guiding force leaves a triton radical.
Roundtime: 4 sec

H>grapp rad right eye
You leap from hiding to strike!
You attempt to grapple a triton radical!
You have excellent positioning against a triton radical.
UAF: 555 vs UDF: 363 = 1.528 * MM: 94 + d100: 25 = 168
... and hit for 51 points of damage!
Double gouge puts both eyeballs as the first thing in the triton radical's mind!
The triton radical collapses, gurgling once with a wrathful look on his face before expiring.
The dully illuminated mantle protecting a triton radical begins to falter, then completely fades away.
A white glow rushes away from a triton radical.
The dull golden nimbus fades from around a triton radical.
The brilliant aura fades away from a triton radical.
The very powerful look leaves a triton radical.
The white light leaves a triton radical.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

H>kick rad right eye
You leap from hiding to strike!
You attempt to kick a triton radical!
You have good positioning against a triton radical.
UAF: 597 vs UDF: 358 = 1.667 * MM: 87 + d100: 88 = 233
... and hit for 82 points of damage!
Descending axe kick impacts just above right eye, knocking the living daylights out of the triton radical!
The triton radical goes limp as he is rendered unconscious!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
R>
A triton radical breathes quietly in his sleep, his small nostrils flaring periodically.
R>
The guiding force leaves a triton radical.
R>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>kick rad left eye
A triton radical is awakened by your attack!
You leap from hiding to strike!
You attempt to kick a triton radical!
You have excellent positioning against a triton radical.
UAF: 597 vs UDF: 337 = 1.771 * MM: 97 + d100: 55 = 226
... and hit for 110 points of damage!
Spinning aerial kick removes left eye from head, and head from body!
The triton radical gurgles once and goes still, a wrathful look on his face.
The dully illuminated mantle protecting a triton radical begins to falter, then completely fades away.
A white glow rushes away from a triton radical.
The dull golden nimbus fades from around a triton radical.
The brilliant aura fades away from a triton radical.
The very powerful look leaves a triton radical.
The white light leaves a triton radical.
The warm glow fades from around a triton radical.
A triton radical seems slightly different.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

HR>kick com right eye
You leap from hiding to strike!
You attempt to kick a triton combatant!
You have good positioning against a triton combatant.
UAF: 597 vs UDF: 277 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 90 + d100: 52 = 232
... and hit for 74 points of damage!
Swift roundhouse to right eye cracks the socket!
The triton combatant collapses, gurgling once with a wrathful look on his face before expiring.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

droit
05-05-2012, 06:06 AM
Were those hits done after an opening jab or something, or were you getting to tier 3 in one shot?

Gelston
05-05-2012, 06:17 AM
Those were all one shots from hiding. I did die a lot, because you basically have to tailor where you aim and what move you'll use, and even then you aren't always guaranteed a stun or something debilitating. A lot of times I'd kick something in the eye from hiding and get mstriked right after.

Kitsun
05-05-2012, 07:32 AM
In that case, those clips are WAY misleading!

crb
05-05-2012, 09:49 AM
... but then again if that is as a rogue, not even as a monk. That'd probably end up tweaked.

crb
05-05-2012, 10:01 AM
do we know what stats make up the unarmed attack and defense modifiers? Likewise for mental CS & TD?

Gelston
05-05-2012, 03:37 PM
do we know what stats make up the unarmed attack and defense modifiers? Likewise for mental CS & TD?

Logic is mental CS, don't recall offhand for UAF.

fallenSaint
05-07-2012, 02:21 AM
Do the attacks from hiding give the unarmed combat any real benefits? I know they commented that Monks were not supposed to be very stealth oriented but I'm curious for a Rogue using the system.

Gelston
05-07-2012, 02:23 AM
Do the attacks from hiding give the unarmed combat any real benefits? I know they commented that Monks were not supposed to be very stealth oriented but I'm curious for a Rogue using the system.

Yes, it raises the tier of the attack by one automatically. I'd still say ambushing with a weapon is superior.

droit
05-07-2012, 02:51 AM
Yes, you get an extra tier off the bat on a good ambush, but you also get phantom ambush weighting. I think it would be pretty effective.

Gelston
05-07-2012, 02:54 AM
Yes, you get an extra tier off the bat on a good ambush, but you also get phantom ambush weighting. I think it would be pretty effective.

It is alright, but from when I was using it in Nelemar it just isn't as reliable as using a weapon to atleast get a stun. I didn't use cmans like vanish or anything, but I usually don't when it is 1v1 anyways.

Drunken Durfin
05-11-2012, 09:27 PM
How much longer is the Beta supposed to last? Is there a set date when Monks will be available in Prime/Shattered or are they playing the RSN card?

fallenSaint
05-12-2012, 12:23 AM
It is alright, but from when I was using it in Nelemar it just isn't as reliable as using a weapon to atleast get a stun. I didn't use cmans like vanish or anything, but I usually don't when it is 1v1 anyways.

I didn't want to hear negative thoughts, couldn't you just have kept my hopes of it being a working solution awhile longer.

droit
05-12-2012, 03:03 AM
I didn't want to hear negative thoughts, couldn't you just have kept my hopes of it being a working solution awhile longer.

I was annihilating destroyers with unarmed ambushes with Droit.