302 OHC.

[Artha]

Is it known that open-hand casting makes 302 alot more effective? It does...having a brawling cleric is fun.

[Betheny]

One hand open is good, two hands is better. :) Stance affects the flares, as well.

[Artha]

It's nice. It also seems like there's a huge increase in the instant death and in infusing mana. I've managed to infuse twice in a row multiple times today.

[Betheny]

I do t hat every once in a while.

I find that if you use 313, and especially if you've got a bard singing Lucksong with you, it tends to up your instant-kill rate significantly.

[Reyek]

anyone seen the difference between holding a shield vs holding a weapon doing open handed casting? havent tried this yet....

[Parkbandit]

I didn't notice any difference with casting with a shield or without. Are you sure there is a difference between casting that way?

I know stance affects it. I know open right handed does as well...

Show us some logs. I'll do some research tomorrow when I get back with my cleric.

[Betheny]

I'll give it a try today when I go hunting. The difference is in the endroll and the damage done. I'll try and find some fairly comparable ones, but I'm what you would call 'mechanics stupid'. I seemed to notice a difference, but it could've just been wishful thinking.

p.s. if I die I'm blaming you.

[Drew2]

Since we can't direct connect, here's the crude script, Maimara.

(I wrote it in less than 30 seconds, for all you script critics)

Usage is .302 <target>

[Betheny]

<removes the gun from Tayre's head>

Thanks, man. I owe you one. You can resume your normal behaviors now.

[Bobmuhthol]

Your script sucks.

[Drew2]

I'm sorry I didn't write out an entire MATCH system for searching, getting treasure, selling it, resting, etc. I bow down before the great Bob and ask for forgiveness.

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't think I ever wrote a script with MATCHes except the script I made to count kills.

[Betheny]

All most matches do when you're going offensive, casting, etc. is endanger your life.

If I get hung up because I have the spell already prepped, if I get hung up for whatever reason, it would mean taking one of those nice massive stone mattocks to the face.

I'll take the no matches... thx.

[Bobmuhthol]

rubbernapkin: >You gesture at a stone mastiff.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses a stone mastiff.
CS: +317 - TD: +241 + CvA: +25 + d100: +100 == +201
Warding failed!
You successfully infuse more mana into the cast.
The violet haze chaotically swirls around the mastiff, the tremendous force causing the victim to crumple inward upon itself!
The stone mastiff is hit for 400 points of damage!
The stone mastiff falls to the ground and dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
rubbernapkin: You gesture at a stone mastiff.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses a stone mastiff.
CS: +317 - TD: +241 + CvA: +25 + d100: +94 == +195
Warding failed!
You successfully infuse more mana into the cast.
The violet haze chaotically swirls around the mastiff, the tremendous force causing the victim to crumple inward upon itself!
The stone mastiff is hit for 399 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Intense beam of plasma shears away large chunks of the stone mastiff's forearm!
The stone mastiff falls to the ground and dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Bob Muhthol: Are your hands empty?
rubbernapkin: Yep, both of em
Bob Muhthol: Good man.
rubbernapkin: Heh
rubbernapkin: You gesture at an Illoke shaman.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses an Illoke shaman.
CS: +317 - TD: +260 + CvA: +25 + d100: +22 == +104
Warding failed!
You successfully infuse more mana into the cast.
The violet haze eddies and swirls around the shaman, lashing out at an Illoke shaman's skin with ethereal tendrils.
The Illoke shaman is hit for 133 points of damage!
... 10 points of damage!
Minor burns to the Illoke shaman's shield arm.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

[Betheny]

Infusing doesn't count, I'm talking about non-infused casts on a creature that's near your age. As in -- if it works, it's worth the risk to use to hunt regularly.

[Betheny]

Screw testing that shit. I keep dying.

Test it yourselves!

[Reyek]

ok stupid question... I know the max bonus you get on 425 and 430 end at 475 as far as spell training is concerned.... does 375 cap out 302 as well?

375 cap out 302?
302 is a attack spell
currently spells like 303 are not capped but open, 2 ranks for 1 ds i believe
but i could be wrong

[Reyek]

hmmm that doesnt seem to answer the question...

[Syberus]

You have to use channel to get any kind of bonus from OHC. I'm fairly certain that applies to all spells that were previously OHC cast in just a more offensive stance (302, 702, 1106 etc). Also the left hand is now no longer penalized for being the open hand so if you have your shield stowed and use your left hand and weapon, it should be just as effective as using a shield and your right hand open. The CHANNEL verb also gives you 3 seconds of HARD rt to prevent the abuse of using a script or macro that was occuring (not that i really think it was a big deal). You must use CHANNEL to recieve the OHC bonus to the aforementioned spells now. There's a few posts in the Sorcerer folder, and probably an announcement or two on the official boards you can check out.


P.S
Why is this stupid old thread being bumped.. now I look like a dumbass answering a question that's 5 months old.

[Edited on 1-26-2004 by Syberus]

[Reyek]

Thats nice, but does 302 get a power cap that is gained by training in the 300's at 375 like 425 and 430 do....

[Kitsun]

Your question doesn't really make sense, Reyek.

302 is a CS spell. Training in the 300's list boosts up your CS.

425 and 430 are enchancer spells that are capped at the 75th rank.

Like any other CS spell, the more you train in the circle, the higher your CS will go.

[Reyek]

Question makes sense to me... lets see if i can clarify...
Ok 425 is a spell that gives a max bonus at spell rank 475. Same with 430 which also gives a max bonus at 475. 425 gives a bonus to your AS and your CS. 430 just to your DS, so for this matter it applies only to the fact that it is capped at 475.

Now lets take 302. 302 is a CS based spell. the more you have in the 300 circle gives you higher CS. Does that bonus end after you hit 375, or if you continue to train in it up to 399. Will you continue to get a bonus in your CS after 375?

Dont know how much plainly you can put it....

[Drew2]

Jesus fucking christ they said yes about 4 different ways. It's no one else's fault you can't read.

[Iriscience]

302 doesn't cap anywhere. I have 156 cleric spells. Every few spells I train, I get another CS.

[Reyek]

Tayre you just trying to fight because you got banned. shush. And to top it off nothing since the answer is no from what Iriscience said.

Thanks Iriscience!

Tayre the short bus tool!

[Drew2]

I got banned? From what, exactly?

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Reyek
Does that bonus end after you hit 375, or if you continue to train in it up to 399. Will you continue to get a bonus in your CS after 375?



Originally posted by Tayre
Jesus fucking christ they said yes about 4 different ways. It's no one else's fault you can't read.


You're a complete moron.

[MrThorbizzle]

Tayre, you're bannzored

warn interaction tayre

ill say it this way
302 is not capped at anything since it is not a CS boosting spell. The more you train the higher it goes, as you train in extra amounts the return is lower like with any spell circle

[MrThorbizzle]

any more than 20 ranks over your level in cleric doesn't give much of a return...it's best to be 20 ranks over, then 2/3 your level in the rest of your circles...i think