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Luftstreitkräfte
03-17-2012, 09:29 AM
I'm using this but will sell at the prices listed:

MB: 65m

BO: 85m

8x, HCP, max light. Brigandine, crafted out of leather. Highly resistant to shock, slightly vulnerable to slash. (5% vulnerability only, GM confirmed) This armor is impressive in OTF, as it will help avoid those pesky shock flares on their weapons.

some celestial black scalemail

The hardened armor is adorned with an elegant set of burnished leather pauldrons. The right pauldron is expertly tooled with a stylized image of a fierce wild stag ready to strike. This scalemail is constructed of a blackened hide suit layered with enameled black scales and thickly lined with black spidersilk. The entirety of the armor is embedded with tiny gems of varying size and shade, arranged in the likeness of the starry heavens. Each of the major constellations is depicted and outlined with silver inlay, including a large eight-pointed star covering the wearer's heart.

[zesttest]>rub scalemail
You brush the accumulated dust and grime off the pauldrons of your hardened armor, the wild stag gleaming regally on the right pauldron.

>wear scal
You work your way into some celestial black scalemail, buckling and tightening the multitude of straps and buckles.

Luftstreitkräfte
03-19-2012, 10:32 PM
still available

Luftstreitkräfte
03-29-2012, 07:34 PM
bump - adjusted slightly

Sav
03-29-2012, 07:59 PM
What would it take to remove the slash vulnerability?

Archigeek
03-29-2012, 09:04 PM
What would it take to remove the slash vulnerability?

Luck.

dszabo
03-29-2012, 09:08 PM
If I'm reading it right, and I'm sure I'm not, a rank 5 slash protection from a warrior (200 ranks of armor use) would add 25% slash resistance, probably negating it, and more then likely adding some minor amount of resistance.

Description: Adjusts a person's armor so that it is more resistant to slashing attacks. The base strength of the damage resistance is equal to (Fitting Tier * 10), with common fittings having a value of 1 and masterwork fittings having a value of 5. If the armor is flared or provides a bonus to AS/TD, there is a -10 penalty to the resistance strength. If the armor is padded, there is a penalty of -5 per ASSESS level to a maximum penalty of -40.

Masterwork Fittings(5) * 10 = 50 - 5 * 5(assess level: light[1], fair[2], somewhat[3], decent[4], heavy[5]) = 25% (Before the vullnerability is applied)

More likely though you'll find 15% as 140 ranks of armor use is MUCH more common then 200 ranks.

ETA: But that warrior stuff is only temporary.

Archigeek
03-29-2012, 09:13 PM
If I'm reading it right, and I'm sure I'm not, a rank 5 slash protection from a warrior (200 ranks of armor use) would add 25% slash resistance, probably negating it, and more then likely adding some minor amount of resistance.

Description: Adjusts a person's armor so that it is more resistant to slashing attacks. The base strength of the damage resistance is equal to (Fitting Tier * 10), with common fittings having a value of 1 and masterwork fittings having a value of 5. If the armor is flared or provides a bonus to AS/TD, there is a -10 penalty to the resistance strength. If the armor is padded, there is a penalty of -5 per ASSESS level to a maximum penalty of -40.

Masterwork Fittings(5) * 10 = 50 - 5 * 5(assess level: light[1], fair[2], somewhat[3], decent[4], heavy[5]) = 25% (Before the vullnerability is applied)

More likely though you'll find 15% as 140 ranks of armor use is MUCH more common then 200 ranks.

ETA: But that warrior stuff is only temporary.

I don't think those numbers are right. Your end result from masterwork fittings is higher than that.

BriarFox
03-29-2012, 09:15 PM
I've heard that you can't use warrior resistance to negate a penalty in these cases. Haven't tried it personally, though.

On another note, I haven't seen a resistance merchant since the first one or two years ago. I wish they'd bring some back.

Archigeek
03-29-2012, 09:37 PM
I've heard that you can't use warrior resistance to negate a penalty in these cases. Haven't tried it personally, though.

On another note, I haven't seen a resistance merchant since the first one or two years ago. I wish they'd bring some back.

I've asked a merchant who was just there to remove things and they told me no way. Things change over time though. People have done it in the past, so it's possible. You just need the right GM at the right time in the right mood.

Sav
03-29-2012, 09:49 PM
Care to test it? I happen to have slash resistance trained...

azim17
03-29-2012, 11:41 PM
Ive tried it Sav....I had Jonty try to do it to my doubles. We tried masterwork fittings and they wouldnt take. Its a no go. As someone else mentioned merchant/GM only.

Sav
03-30-2012, 12:49 AM
figured as much, but until now Ive never heard otherwise nor have I tried it... either way nice set of armor and good luck on the sale. Free bumps

Middian
03-30-2012, 08:34 AM
My plate is similar: it has padding and is Highly resistant to shock, moderately vulnerable to slash. I believe it was Roblar or my old warrior tried to put the fittings in to no avail. It seemss a merchant in a good mood is the only way to go.

Luftstreitkräfte
03-30-2012, 08:40 AM
Thanks for the bumps. I may end up taking this armor to 10x with Premium Points.

Luftstreitkräfte
05-10-2012, 07:53 AM
Bump

Middian
05-10-2012, 09:51 AM
The recent GM that was removing things refused to remove one or both of the resistances.

Normal melee usually does not hit me and I only see a problem with the slashing vulnerability when it comes with hamstring and the throat cut. Recently I have been wearing my flaring/ moderately resistant to slashing legs and have noticed in my last two bandit runs, I did not get the "your armor has been overcome with a slashing attack” like I normally do without the leg armor on when it comes to the cman hamstring.

With that being said, miscellaneous armor might be worth looking into. At least until you are able to have a GM remove it.

Luftstreitkräfte
05-10-2012, 11:48 AM
Thanks for responding. I'm not sure if I understand the last sentence in its current state. "With that being said, miscellaneous armor might be worth looking into. At least until you are able to have a GM remove it."

Gostahl will remove 5% of a vulnerability if you win his "removal" service on the Albatross prize wheel and pay 250k.

Middian
05-10-2012, 01:23 PM
My full plate is moderately vulnerable to slashing. I have been recently wearing moderately resistant to slashing/flaring miscellaneous leg armor, which seems to have offset the vulnerability of my full plate during CMAN hamstrings attacks. So looking into adding resistant miscellaneous armor might help in the interim to offset the vulnerability.

the quick
05-10-2012, 07:36 PM
I'm not bidding but am wondering how good that resistance is against shocks.As a player who had countless deaths from flares in OTF, would be curious to see it's effect.

thefarmer
05-10-2012, 08:23 PM
figured as much, but until now Ive never heard otherwise nor have I tried it... either way nice set of armor and good luck on the sale. Free bumps

I tried using all the fitting tiers the day warrior resistance was released on my old plate (resistance to slash/crush/puncture) and none worked. I had then heard from a GM that was intended.


My full plate is moderately vulnerable to slashing. I have been recently wearing moderately resistant to slashing/flaring miscellaneous leg armor, which seems to have offset the vulnerability of my full plate during CMAN hamstrings attacks. So looking into adding resistant miscellaneous armor might help in the interim to offset the vulnerability.


Padding calculations use the 'averaging' rule between the two layered pieces. Layering specific enhanced gear (spike/resistance/flare) causes the 'top' armor piece properties to function and stopping/masking the properties of the piece 'covered'.

The resist/flare on your leg piece will activate instead of the (torso-based) lightning resist/lightning resist. Your head/neck/arms, if not covered by another similarly enhanced piece, will continue to have the normal resists/vunerabilities.

This also means you're always going to have slash vunerability/lightning resistance to hits to the torso even if you do layer all the other body parts since nothing layers over the chest.



I'm not bidding but am wondering how good that resistance is against shocks.As a player who had countless deaths from flares in OTF, would be curious to see it's effect.


Edit: Sorry, I had put the 5% reading the slash, not the lightning portion. It'll just decrease the damage done, the same criticals will still be there. That same cheap death from 10 damage to the brain frying nerves, or whatever, will still fry you dead. It'll just be for 1-2 damage instead.

Based off Jinsem's old research (whom I got my old plate from) years ago, and effectively confirmed by several GMs who watched his testing, it's effectively damage padding that is factored in after the entire AS/DS/Endroll/Crit resolution. It's possible it's been changed slightly with the introduction of Warrior fittings but I hadn't noted any post by a GM, a player, or through my own resistance armor usage that would indicate anything major has changed.

thefarmer
05-10-2012, 08:46 PM
"... At least until you are able to have a GM remove it."

Gostahl will remove 5% of a vulnerability if you win his "removal" service on the Albatross prize wheel and pay 250k.


Resistance removing is a different tier service than just the regular 'removal' service that people like Ledrith do. Ledrith didn't really need approval to do entire rooms worth of work. However, resistance additions/vunerability removals have always been limited in some fashion, similiar to how many spots a GM can give out of X 'auction-level' type items. For whatever reason, nobody has been able to, or wanted to, offer resistance work for a very long time. The last time I can recall was Walram (sp) offering maybe 5 spots for vunerability removal years and years ago.

I haven't played dice with Gostahl so until he's specifically said resistance work is fair game, I wouldn't expect his prize wheel to get you that service.


In other words, I wouldn't hold your breath expecting to get resistance work.

Nordaak
05-10-2012, 09:07 PM
Gostahl has stated that resistance removal is authorized if you roll the correct #..9 or so i think it is.
Cant remember the winners name last time he vistited the lands, but he had that very thing done. If i recall correctly he had 10% or moderate amount removed.
The amount might be slightly off, but he will remove resistance from the dice roll win if you have the correct #.

Luftstreitkräfte
05-10-2012, 09:58 PM
Thanks for the bumps. As for testing the resistance, I can tell you that I do not die from lightning crits from Ithzir weapons.. ever.

And yes Gostahl performed the service on this armor.

the quick
05-11-2012, 07:39 AM
Wow.........

thefarmer
05-11-2012, 08:50 AM
Brigandine, crafted out of leather.

Brig /= plate, so the shock resistance IMO is less valuable than on a set of metal fullplate.



Thanks for the bumps. As for testing the resistance, I can tell you that I do not die from lightning crits from Ithzir weapons.. ever.


The upper limit of ranger resist % is higher than the standard warrior/merchant resistances and people can still die from the critical hits. You're going to die, you just have a better chance not to. I'm sure you haven't died yet, but still, I'd chalk a lot of that not ever dying to small sample size and random luck.