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Jess78080
02-14-2012, 09:16 AM
You see a silver-edged cobalt blue surcoat.

You carefully inspect your cobalt blue surcoat.

You determine that you could wear the surcoat over your front.

It looks like this item has been mainly crafted out of cloth.

You carefully examine the cobalt blue surcoat and determine that the weight is less than 2 pounds.

When you look at the item, the usual echo of something without a long show "You see nothing unusual." you don't see. You see this:

>look at surcoat
a silver-edged cobalt blue lady's surcoat

Unfortunately it is not a container.

I'm not familiar with items like this. I didn't know if it was possibly worth anything at all.

BriarFox
02-14-2012, 09:18 AM
It's broken. Assist to have it fixed.

Jess78080
02-14-2012, 09:36 AM
Hmm. Didn't know items could break, I suppose.

Dystopia
02-14-2012, 09:42 AM
I hate how in GS they jump between centuries. I know it's "a different world" any time you bring up how something is inconsistent. Women didn't wear surcoats for a VERY long time past medieval times, and even still it was very odd to see. Even a woman of a higher class status would never wear one.

It's kind of like another thread here involving kidskin. Sure, it began as the skin of goats. As the king's court grew in England and the hunting of deer became more popular, kidskin began to become that of young fawn and deer etc.

Nerd rant of the day.

Thanks for listening.

The More You Know...

Androidpk
02-14-2012, 10:02 AM
Elanthia is not Earth.

AnticorRifling
02-14-2012, 10:05 AM
I hate how in GS they jump between centuries. I know it's "a different world" any time you bring up how something is inconsistent. Women didn't wear surcoats for a VERY long time past medieval times, and even still it was very odd to see. Even a woman of a higher class status would never wear one.

It's kind of like another thread here involving kidskin. Sure, it began as the skin of goats. As the king's court grew in England and the hunting of deer became more popular, kidskin began to become that of young fawn and deer etc.

Nerd rant of the day.

Thanks for listening.

The More You Know...
I heard there were a lot of monsters like trolls and undead walking around to fight back in the day too so this is a very good post.

AnticorRifling
02-14-2012, 10:05 AM
FU Pk.

Asha
02-14-2012, 10:06 AM
Elf RL.

Androidpk
02-14-2012, 10:14 AM
I heard there were a lot of monsters like trolls and undead walking around to fight back in the day too so this is a very good post.

Luckily for us our early heroes like Beowulf vanquished most of the monsters.

Dystopia
02-14-2012, 10:22 AM
LOL

Glad you guys have a sense of humor. I love this place.

:love:

:blndwhip:

BriarFox
02-14-2012, 10:57 AM
I hate how in GS they jump between centuries. I know it's "a different world" any time you bring up how something is inconsistent. Women didn't wear surcoats for a VERY long time past medieval times, and even still it was very odd to see. Even a woman of a higher class status would never wear one.

It's kind of like another thread here involving kidskin. Sure, it began as the skin of goats. As the king's court grew in England and the hunting of deer became more popular, kidskin began to become that of young fawn and deer etc.

Nerd rant of the day.

Thanks for listening.

The More You Know...

I'm not quite sure what you're arguing, but surcoats were very popular in the Middle Ages among both sexes, and primarily among the upper classes. Here's the OED entry:



surcoat, n.

Pronunciation: /ˈsɜːkəʊt/

Forms: ME surkot, ( sorcot), ME–16 (18) surcote, ME surkote, surcotte, ( ser-, syrcote, ME–15 circot(e, 15 circotte, erron. surcourt), 16 surcoate, 17 surkoat, 16– surcoat.(Show Less)

Etymology: < Old French sur- , sor- , sour- , sircot (also -cote ): see sur- prefix and coat n. Compare Provençal sobrecot , Italian sopraccotta , sorcotto .


1. An outer coat or garment, commonly of rich material, worn by people of rank of both sexes; often worn by armed men over their armour, and having the heraldic arms depicted on it.As part of the insignia of orders, etc., the surcoat is now a short sleeveless garment of crimson velvet worn with a mantle.
a1330 Syr Degarre 791 He hadde on a sorcot ouert, I-forred with blaundeuer apert.
?a1400 Morte Arth. 3252 A duches dereworthily dyghte‥In a surcott of sylke fulle selkouthely hewede.
c1400 (1390) Sir Gawain & Green Knight (1940) l. 1929 His surkot semed hym wel, þat softe watȝ forred.
c1405 (1387–95) Chaucer Canterbury Tales Prol. (Hengwrt) (2003) l. 619 A long Surcote of Pers vp on he haade.
1457 Cov. Leet Bk. 299, & there folowed then mony moo ladyes yn her mantels, surcotes & other appareyll to theyre astates acustumed.
1494 in Coll. Ordinances Royal Househ. (1790) 120 On New-Yeares day, the King ought to weare his kirtle, his circote, and his pane of armes.
1562 G. Legh Accedens of Armory (1597) 96 Gentlewomen vnder the degree of a countesse, haue armes on Taberts, but the countesse and so vpwards shal haue their Armes in surcotes and mantels.
1603 M. Drayton Barrons Wars ii. xxii. 31 Vppon his surcoate valient Neuell bore A siluer saltoyre.
1655 H. L'Estrange Reign King Charles 110 The hole Colledge of Heralds mounted on horse~back, in their rich Surcoats.
1805 R. Southey Madoc i. xv, Embroider'd surcoats and emblazon'd shields.
1845 S. Austin tr. L. von Ranke Hist. Reformation in Germany III. v. ix. 263 They were all in light armour, with red surcoats.
1885 C. Oman Art of War 42 The colour of bannerole, crest, and surcoat was that of the regimental standard.
1911 M. Beerbohm Zuleika Dobson iii. 32 The heavy mantle of blue velvet,‥the crimson surcoat [of the Garter].

Edit: As for hunting of big game, by the way, it was the primary leisure sport of royalty, trickling down to the aristocracy and then into the gentry, from the Norman Conquest until the Civil War.

AnticorRifling
02-14-2012, 11:03 AM
Also I went to Medieval Times and they had Pepsi, no forks though.

Jess78080
02-14-2012, 11:33 AM
Would it be possible to get a merchant to add pockets to something like this?

Middian
02-14-2012, 11:34 AM
They have services (rare), that add pockets to non-pocketed items. I believe there was a service about 3 months ago.

petroglyph
02-14-2012, 11:35 AM
Would it be possible to get a merchant to add pockets to something like this?

It would be a lot easier to get a pocketed item altered to look like this.

Middian
02-14-2012, 11:36 AM
I thought about that after I just posted. It would be a lot easier.

Androidpk
02-14-2012, 11:43 AM
Reminds me of the laje surcoat I have sitting in my locker I've been meaning to sell.

DCSL
02-14-2012, 11:45 AM
I'm not quite sure what you're arguing, but surcoats were very popular in the Middle Ages among both sexes, and primarily among the upper classes. Here's the OED entry:


I was going to let it go. Thanks for NOT letting it go and nerding out for me.

This post was brought to you by the fact that I can't rep BriarFox again yet.

Jess78080
02-14-2012, 11:46 AM
Thanks. A front worn item with pockets would be really nice.

petroglyph
02-14-2012, 12:22 PM
Thanks. A front worn item with pockets would be really nice.

They're very, very common. (http://shops.lichproject.org/items?adv[worn_location]=over+your+front&adv[capacity]=can+store+a&adv[weapon_type]=&adv[shield_type]=&adv[armor_type]=&adv[enchant]=&adv[enhancive]=&s=&commit=Search)

Sam
02-14-2012, 01:02 PM
I was going to let it go. Thanks for NOT letting it go and nerding out for me.

This post was brought to you by the fact that I can't rep BriarFox again yet.


Seriously. He's months away from being Doctor Nerd.

BriarFox
02-14-2012, 01:05 PM
Seriously. He's months away from being Doctor Nerd.

I need a t-shirt with that on it.

AnticorRifling
02-14-2012, 01:10 PM
That's Mr. Dr. Professor Patrick

http://allisbrawl.com/avatars/a/d/53557_0_lg.jpg

Dystopia
02-14-2012, 01:27 PM
I am not pleased right now with a former professor.

Thanks for clarifying, Briarfox.

Tgo01
02-14-2012, 01:42 PM
I am not pleased right now with a former professor.

Thanks for clarifying, Briarfox.

He's a former professor for a reason.

Gweneivia
02-14-2012, 04:55 PM
That's Mr. Dr. Professor Patrick

http://allisbrawl.com/avatars/a/d/53557_0_lg.jpg

Don't listen to him, he's just the intern.

Sylvan Dreams
02-14-2012, 11:24 PM
Hmm. Didn't know items could break, I suppose.

It was probably just built incorrectly.

Klinor
02-14-2012, 11:59 PM
They have services (rare), that add pockets to non-pocketed items. I believe there was a service about 3 months ago.

It's happened at least twice in the past 12 months.

I got my Vahmyr scripted eyepatch and bandana done. They're now both pocketed and open and close

s>inspect eyepatch
You estimate that a red-edged black suede eyepatch can store a very small amount with enough space for a couple of items of very small size.
You remember that you registered this item many months ago.

s>inspect bandana
You estimate that a patterned black cotton bandana can store a very small amount with enough space for a couple of items of very small size.
You remember that you registered this item a couple months ago.

Sav
02-15-2012, 02:27 AM
What about a front worn I found that holds a MA and can be deepened still?

Dystopia
02-15-2012, 11:00 AM
I have the same thing. Front worn medium amount, no restricts.

But when I go to wear it, it goes in my armor slot.

Assist to get it fixed?

BriarFox
02-15-2012, 11:49 AM
I have the same thing. Front worn medium amount, no restricts.

But when I go to wear it, it goes in my armor slot.

Assist to get it fixed?

You're making sure you have your armor on *before* you put the front-worn piece on, right? If that doesn't work, then do assist, yep.