Taking bets on super bowl

[SHAFT]

Vegasinsider.com says the current spread is -3 pats. Taking bets up to 20m silver or $200 cash. Get yer bets in before the game

[WRoss]

I'll do 5m and take the NYG against the spread.

[SHAFT]

That is a bet good sir

[WRoss]

So is it a deal?

[Sam]

No. It's a bet.

[Gizmo]

Is that a Thondabet?

[kookiegod]

I'll take the Patriots to win for 10m.

[SHAFT]

Wross has giants +3 for 5m
Kookie has pats -3 for 10m
Bobmuhthol pats -3 for $20

The over/under is 53.5, will take bets on that as well

[Bobmuhthol]

So you're willing to take the net opposite position of everyone here? Are you paying -110 or 1:1?

[SHAFT]

1:1

I'm not looking to get rich, just make things interesting

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't have silver, but I'll put $20 on Patriots -3.

[SHAFT]

I don't have silver, but I'll put $20 on Patriots -3.

Got it

[SHAFT]

Looks like I'm a giants fan tonight. Any more bets?

[Latrinsorm]

I bet I can get you to bet on something before we get to Aspen.

[SHAFT]

I don't know Lloyd, the French are assholes

[Ceyrin]

Looks like I'm a giants fan tonight. Any more bets?

Congratulations on coming out ahead.

It was a good game.

[GS4Merchant]

Congratulations on coming out ahead.

It was a good game.


Agreed, and congratz Shaft on the winnings. :)

[WRoss]

I'll do 5m and take the NYG against the spread.

Pay up!

[SHAFT]

I should be able to log in and meet with you tomorrow wross. I'll send you a message when I get home tomorrow

[Bobmuhthol]

I'm not paying for a bullshit loss that came down to a stupid intentional grounding call.

[Some Rogue]

You mean a correct call?

[Bobmuhthol]

If that same play has ever been called intentional grounding in the history of the NFL I'll eat a bowl of dicks.

[Gelston]

The score that will go down in the history of Superbowls is what it is. Don't be a sore loser.

[Sean of the Thread]

I'm not paying for a bullshit loss that came down to a stupid intentional grounding call.


You made the bet man.

[TheEschaton]

Errr, no one was within 30 yards of that ball, and he was in the pocket?

The intentional grounding rule:

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).

[Some Rogue]

If that same play has ever been called intentional grounding in the history of the NFL I'll eat a bowl of dicks.


How about the one called on Eli Manning this year against the Falcons?

Start eating... (http://atlanta.sbnation.com/atlanta-falcons/2012/1/8/2691840/video-eli-manning-safety-gives-falcons-lead-over-giants)

[Gelston]

I don't have silver, but I'll put $20 on Patriots -3.

And just in case. You make a bet, you lose, pay it.

[TheEschaton]

The funny part is, if Tom Brady wasn't such a lazy, pretty boy douche, and just scrambled 5 yards laterally before he threw that ball - it wouldn't have been intentional grounding.

[Androidpk]

I'm not paying for a bullshit loss that came down to a stupid intentional grounding call.

This is just my 2 cents, as a patriots fan. It didn't come down to a "stupid intentional grounding call". It came down to the Giants being far more prepared to play a Superbowl game than the Patriots. The intentional grounding call, which was totally legit, the recovered fumble loss with 12 men on the field, the numerous catches dropped by everyone on the offensive line.. I must say though the offensive and defensive lines both did a hell of a job IMO.

[Bobmuhthol]

How about the one called on Eli Manning this year against the Falcons?

Not the same play, for the reason below:


facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense

From what I remember, Brady was throwing the ball away relatively early -- that is, not due to pressure from the defense. There was a substantial window after the throw before he was touched.


the recovered fumble loss with 12 men on the field, the numerous catches dropped by everyone on the offensive line

Add in the declined penalty leading to a lost down and settling for a field goal. But I wouldn't call that the Patriots being unprepared, or the Giants being more prepared, because the Giants didn't exactly play better.

[Some Rogue]

Watch it again. Tuck had his hands on him.

[msconstrew]

Not the same play, for the reason below:



From what I remember, Brady was throwing the ball away relatively early -- that is, not due to pressure from the defense. There was a substantial window after the throw before he was touched.



Add in the declined penalty leading to a lost down and settling for a field goal. But I wouldn't call that the Patriots being unprepared, or the Giants being more prepared, because the Giants didn't exactly play better.

The point is not whether the intentional grounding call was correct or incorrect. The point is that you made the bet, and in making the bet implicitly accepted the calls the refs were going to make, good or bad. The fact that you believe there was a bad call is immaterial and irrelevant to the fact that you now refuse to live up to a promise that you made.

[Gelston]

The point is not whether the intentional grounding call was correct or incorrect. The point is that you made the bet, and in making the bet implicitly accepted the calls the refs were going to make, good or bad. The fact that you believe there was a bad call is immaterial and irrelevant to the fact that you now refuse to live up to a promise that you made.

Damn, that is some lawyer speak right there.

[Bobmuhthol]

Just watched it again and it's what I remembered. He started the throw around the time whoever (I guess Tuck) broke the block and finished it before contact was made. It didn't look like a reaction to a tackle (in my opinion, of course); it looked like a precautionary throw to end the play. The same throw without any defenders isn't intentional grounding, and I don't think the one defender was close enough.

[SHAFT]

Bob payed

[Parkbandit]

If that same play has ever been called intentional grounding in the history of the NFL I'll eat a bowl of dicks.

Just pay the man and start sucking.

You're wrong.. and stupid.

[Bobmuhthol]

Bob payed

You're ruining my fun.

But yeah, I paid him like 3 or 4 hours ago.

[SHAFT]

How about welker, branch, and Hernandez dropping passes that should have been caught? Hate to say it but, Giselle was right. Brady can't catch the fucking ball as well.

Haha, sorry bob

[Parkbandit]

Just watched it again and it's what I remembered. He started the throw around the time whoever (I guess Tuck) broke the block and finished it before contact was made. It didn't look like a reaction to a tackle (in my opinion, of course); it looked like a precautionary throw to end the play. The same throw without any defenders isn't intentional grounding, and I don't think the one defender was close enough.

Wrong. He threw the ball just as he was getting hit.

Watch it again.

[Parkbandit]

How about welker, branch, and Hernandez dropping passes that should have been caught? Hate to say it but, Giselle was right. Brady can't catch the fucking ball as well.

The biggest advantage the Giants had was that Gronkowski was hurt.

[Bobmuhthol]

I can say "wrong" just as authoritatively as you. The difference is that only one of us is right/wrong.

[Gelston]

You're ruining my fun.

But yeah, I paid him like 3 or 4 hours ago.

Good man.

[SHAFT]

You can argue that intentional grounding all day and the 12 men on the field hurt, but if the pats receivers do their job on that last drive, I have no doubt Brady would've delivered. He would've at least made it interesting.

[Parkbandit]

I can say "wrong" just as authoritatively as you. The difference is that only one of us is right/wrong.

I have the backing of the NFL behind my "wrong"... you have nothing but your tears on your Tom Brady poster to back up your claim.

Man the fuck up.

[AnticorRifling]

I would like to place a bet for real money on next years super bowl. The bet will be that the Colts will be in it and they will win by at least 20 points. If for some reason this doesn't happen it's going to be due to some "bullshit" and as such I won't be held to paying on this bet.

Thank you.

[AnticorRifling]

You're ruining my fun.

But yeah, I paid him like 3 or 4 hours ago.

Damnit. Fuck you and your owning up and paying like you're supposed to actions.

[Bobmuhthol]

I have the backing of the NFL behind my "wrong"

The NFL also uses Riddell helmets; they're not fucking geniuses.

[Parkbandit]

The NFL also uses Riddell helmets; they're not fucking geniuses.

Do you think maybe it's just because you are so buttsore on the outcome that you are unable to look at something objectively?

Here.. maybe this will get you through such a tough time in your little life:

http://cdn02.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/13/tom-brady-hot-photos-01132012-10.jpg

[Bobmuhthol]

:heart:

[TheEschaton]

Really? he was about to be hit as he threw it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxV8mDocZzg

[TheEschaton]

Also, that Tom Brady would wear a jacket like that makes me want to punch him the face even more.

[Drew]

That's a pretty pimp jacket.

[Parkbandit]

Really? he was about to be hit as he threw it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxV8mDocZzg

Everyone in the world (except Bob) knows this.

Here is the moment the ball is being released and he's being hit.. it happened at the same time.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/Bradypwned.jpg

So, let's go through the things that had to happen for the call to be made:

QB was facing imminent danger of losing yards - CHECK
QB was in the pocket - CHECK
QB threw the ball where there was no realistic chance of reception - CHECK

It's a very easy call.

[Parkbandit]

Also, that Tom Brady would wear a jacket like that makes me want to punch him the face even more.

I was going to use this pic for Bob.. but it wasn't big enough:

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/10/16-22/tom_brady_10.jpg

[Latrinsorm]

This is just my 2 cents, as a patriots fan. It didn't come down to a "stupid intentional grounding call". It came down to the Giants being far more prepared to play a Superbowl game than the Patriots. The intentional grounding call, which was totally legit, the recovered fumble loss with 12 men on the field, the numerous catches dropped by everyone on the offensive line.. I must say though the offensive and defensive lines both did a hell of a job IMO.
How about welker, branch, and Hernandez dropping passes that should have been caught? Hate to say it but, Giselle was right. Brady can't catch the fucking ball as well.
It looks to me in the replays that Brady made an unusually high number of poor throws. That the receivers even managed to get their hands on some of the throws should be to their credit, not a reason to blame them.

[Ceyrin]

The point is not whether the intentional grounding call was correct or incorrect. The point is that you made the bet, and in making the bet implicitly accepted the calls the refs were going to make, good or bad. The fact that you believe there was a bad call is immaterial and irrelevant to the fact that you now refuse to live up to a promise that you made.

:yeahthat: